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Knicks Morning News (2014.05.30)

  • [New York Times] Ex-Microsoft CEO Ballmer Buys NBA’s LA Clippers for $2 Billion (Fri, 30 May 2014 08:30:31 GMT)
    Former Microsoft Corp CEO Steve Ballmer has purchased the NBA’s Los Angeles Clippers franchise for $2 billion, a record for a professional basketball team, sole trustee Shelly Sterling announced on Friday.

  • [New York Times] Will Game 6 Be a Bounce-Back for LeBron James? (Fri, 30 May 2014 07:24:39 GMT)
    There’s one area where the Indiana Pacers and Miami Heat agree.

  • [New York Times] Spurs Rout Thunder to Take 3-2 Lead in West Finals (Fri, 30 May 2014 07:21:44 GMT)
    San Antonio Spurs coach Gregg Popovich stared blankly at a reporter, dumbfounded as he often is when dealing the media.

  • [New York Times] Spurs 117, Thunder 89: Spurs Take Another Step Toward Redemption (Fri, 30 May 2014 06:07:21 GMT)
    San Antonio regrouped from two convincing defeats to take a 3-2 series lead against the Oklahoma City Thunder in the Western Conference finals.

  • [New York Times] Sports Briefing | Basketball: Curry Disagrees With Jackson Firing (Fri, 30 May 2014 05:09:10 GMT)
    In his first extended public comments since Mark Jackson was fired as the Golden State coach, Stephen Curry said that he disagreed with the decision.

  • [New York Times] Spurs Rout Thunder to Take 3-2 Lead in West Finals (Fri, 30 May 2014 05:00:39 GMT)
    Back at home, this blowout went to the San Antonio Spurs.

  • [New York Times] Spurs Silence Thunder to Lead Series 3-2 (Fri, 30 May 2014 04:57:31 GMT)
    Manu Ginobili and Boris Diaw were electric off the bench as the San Antonio Spurs routed the Oklahoma City Thunder 117-89 in Game Five of the Western Conference Finals on Thursday to move one win away from a berth in the NBA Finals.

  • [New York Times] Bob Houbregs, Basketball Hall of Fame Member, Dies at 82 (Fri, 30 May 2014 02:06:46 GMT)
    Mr. Houbregs led the University of Washington to its only N.C.A.A. Final Four berth, in 1953.

  • [New York Times] Steve Ballmer Said to Sign $2 Billion Deal to Buy Clippers (Fri, 30 May 2014 02:06:37 GMT)
    Rochelle Sterling agreed Thursday night to sell the Los Angeles Clippers to Steve Ballmer, the former chief executive of Microsoft, for $2 billion, which would be the largest price ever for an N.B.A. franchise.

  • [New York Times] Ballmer Emerges as Front-Runner to Buy Clippers (Fri, 30 May 2014 01:12:58 GMT)
    Rochelle Sterling was negotiating Thursday night to sell the Los Angeles Clippers to Steve Ballmer, the former chief executive of Microsoft, with a report that he had submitted a bid of $2 billion.

  • [New York Times] Ex-Microsoft CEO Ballmer to Buy NBA’s LA Clippers for $2 Billion: Source (Fri, 30 May 2014 01:12:35 GMT)
    Former Microsoft Corp Chief Executive Officer Steve Ballmer won the bidding war for the NBA’s Los Angeles Clippers franchise with a $2 billion offer, a record for a professional basketball team, a source with knowledge of the bidding said on Thursday.

  • [New York Times] Pacers’ Stephenson Gets in James’s Ear, but Not in His Head (Fri, 30 May 2014 00:48:26 GMT)
    Indiana stayed alive by winning Game 5 of the Eastern Conference finals as Miami’s LeBron James was limited to 7 points.

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    38 comments on “Knicks Morning News (2014.05.30)

    1. Farfa

      According to some ESPN sources, Del Negro is in the mix for the Wolves job. I want to ask a question to the GMs of the world.

      Are we, the fans, the only ones who can see clearly when a guy plainly sucks at coaching???

      How the fuck is it possibile that those guys do an awful job and get interviewed again… and again… and again…
      Vinny Del Negro? Seriously? Dammit, give Woody a real chance then. Del Negro is one of the worst coaches of all time, in my eyes. And don’t tell me about last Clippers season. Really. The guy can’t coach.

    2. Sakei99

      $2 effing billion for the Clips. Wow.

      It just goes to show you pro sports teams, especially those in major markets (see also LA Dodgers) are just printing money.

      I remember when the team opening up to sale was first announced and Simmons said expect a $1.5 billion price tag. And there were actual human beings laughing at the though of it going even that high. Woof.

    3. d-mar

      I believe it was Mike Francesa who said reports of a $2 billion price tag were “absurd”.

      First time he’s ever been wrong.

    4. DRed

      Phil says he's spent last few weeks focusing on how to get the best use out of NYKs video and analytics folks.— Chris Herring (@HerringWSJ) May 30, 2014

      We have analytics folks? I wonder what they thought of the Bargs deal?

    5. Farfa

      We have analytics folks? I wonder what they thought of the Bargs deal?

      I think our “analytics” folks are two random guys who look only at the Post box-scores and remembered when Bargs averaged more than 20ppg in a season. There is also another guy, the little brother of one of the aforementioned two, who goes by the name “Chris” and uses an abacus to do simple math like 3 + 5.

    6. Kahnzy

      I think our “analytics” folks are two random guys who look only at the Post box-scores and remembered when Bargs averaged more than 20ppg in a season. There is also another guy, the little brother of one of the aforementioned two, who goes by the name “Chris” and uses an abacus to do simple math like 3 + 5.

      Or a more realistic scenario is that our analytic guys, like lots of people, have bosses who don’t listen to them and whose jobs are not taken very seriously by the higher-ups.

    7. BigBlueAL

      How about Phil saying he told Melo to opt-in this season and become a FA next year. Phil must read Knickerblogger lol.

    8. Robtachi

      Melo said he’ll “think about it.”

      It still seems like by far the best option. He’d make more this year than he would if he opted out no matter who he signed with, and next year he will have a tremendous crop of players to potentially team up with, not to mention a lot more teams that can reasonably fit him under their cap.

      Problem is, I don’t think I want Melo re-signed after next season. I’m not too keen on giving a new 5 year extension to a guy going into his age 32 season. Is this Phil’s ploy to keep Melo around long enough to deal him for some assets?

    9. EB

      Analytics guys for the Knicks are two men who analyze how CAA can get most money from the Knicks. (Also JR Smith’s 3rd cousin).

    10. Donnie Walsh

      Hopefully Phil said: “If you opt out, I’m not going to offer you a contract. If you opt in, I might”.

    11. Donnie Walsh

      Analytics guys for the Knicks are two men who analyze how CAA can get most money from the Knicks.

      All I know is one of those guys is named Steve Mills.

    12. Owen

      I believe it was Mike Francesa who said reports of a $2 billion price tag were “absurd”.

      First time he’s ever been wrong.

      I can just picture him saying it. UB-serd…..

      But I am shocked to. That’s a big chunk of change. No wonder Dolan doesn’t give a hoot about anything. What are the Knicks worth in this parallel universe….

      Tonight is yet another reminder that the only thing worse than having Mark Jackson coach the Knicks is having him be lead announcer for the NBA. I can’t take it…

    13. Owen

      Birdman signing with the Heat was a move of underrated consequence. Birdamn can ball, on both end of the floors….

    14. DRed

      Straight out of the Xavier McDaniel playbook. Someone is going to pop Lance before the night is over

    15. Kahnzy

      Straight out of the Xavier McDaniel playbook. Someone is going to pop Lance before the night is over

      I just hope it happens before I turn the game off. At least that might be interesting to watch for a bit.

    16. johnno

      I read somewhere that Del Negro is also a favorite for the Cavs job. Amazing.
      Lance Stephenson might be the least likable player in the NBA…

    17. DRed

      Breen “if you’re Vogel, what do you say to your team at halftime”

      JVG “we had a great year”

      I miss JVG

    18. Kahnzy

      Breen “if you’re Vogel, what do you say to your team at halftime”

      JVG “we had a great year”

      I miss JVG

      You beat me to it. What a great line. If JVG is not to be the head coach of the Knicks, then may he never leave the broadcaster’s table.

    19. Brian Cronin

      Jackson also confirmed that he did tell Melo that Kerr would be the head coach next year before, you know, he actually signed Kerr to be the head coach next year.

      He did add that he later (after he had already told Melo that Kerr would be the head coach) did get a verbal commitment from Kerr and then Kerr called him the next day and asked to be let out of it for the Golden State job (he didn’t say whether it was “Match or please let me go” or simply “Please let me go”).

    20. Frank

      Re: Phil-

      I’m totally fine with him letting Kerr go. Once Kerr expressed interest in the GSW job after verbally accepting the Knicks job, there’s no point in forcing him to stay. IMHO the fact that the Kerr/NYK saga dragged on and on tells you all you need to know about how badly Kerr wanted this job– i.e.. not that badly. At the end of the day, Kerr’s a smart guy but has zero coaching experience. If I’m Golden State, I’m a little worried about that IMHO. I’d feel way better about Kerr as a brand new coach with Phil in his ear than other dinosaurs like Lionel Hollins or even other failed coaches like Alvin Gentry.

      And I think Phil is playing this Melo saga perfectly — if he could somehow get Melo to opt-in next year, he’ll have earned his $12MM salary just with that. Obviously it’s better for Melo to take the 5 year deal now, but like Phil said, insurance policies can mitigate any injury-related (or even loss-of-value?) changes in Melo’s earning potential over the next 4-5 years.

      It’s so refreshing to hear a Knicks executive speak as candidly as Phil has already, isn’t it?

    21. Frank

      Meanwhile how frustrating is it to watch Atlanta, San Antonio, and now Miami completely neutralize a shot blocker by playing a shooter to space the floor (ie. Millsap, Bonner, Rashard Lewis)? We freaking had that strategy in April 2013 when we played Cope at the 5 against the Pacers and blew them out, and Woody couldn’t even recognize his own “genius”. Instead we got “the East is big” and played right into Indy’s hands with the vaunted Kenyon Martin Tyson Chandler starting frontcourt.

    22. d-mar

      I can’t imagine any agent representing a mega-star is ever going to advise their client to opt in.

      Anyone know if in recent years a star player has not opted out of their contract when the opportunity arises? I can’t think of any.

    23. mokers

      Discussion of Melo’s opt in is a bit of a distraction from the real problems. If Melo opts in this year and stays with the team, his cap hold next year would in some ways limit the flexibility of 2015. If the Knicks actually want maximum flexibility next year, the best deal is to sign Melo to a contract at a discount from his max contract this year. Real genius would be getting Amar’e and Bargnani to opt out. Those are the contracts that are costing the most in terms of wins and are really hurting the team in terms of flexibility. If Melo doesn’t take a reduced deal I would prefer a full rebuild by letting him go (or sign and trade).

      Also, great article on Duncan and Popovich:

      http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10955188/gregg-popovich-tim-duncan-stories

    24. DRed

      Real genius would be getting Amar’e and Bargnani to opt out.

      Ain’t nobody that smart

    25. The Ghost of Ted Nelson

      Anyone know if in recent years a star player has not opted out of their contract when the opportunity arises? I can’t think of any.

      In 2012 Dwight Howard opted into the final year of his contract with the Magic. But he gave a verbal agreement to the Magic that he wouldn’t exercise the ETO before the trade deadline (to assist the FO in making decisions for the future). Howard explained his decision at the time: “I have gotten some bad advice. I apologize for this circus I have caused to the fans of our city. They didn’t deserve none of this. I’m sorry from the bottom of my heart. I will do whatever I can to make this right and do what I was put in Orlando to do.”

      Of course, by craftily inserting a double negative into the sentence “they didn’t deserve none of this”, he left himself room to talk his way out of that statement, which he did just a few months later when he claimed that he was blackmailed into opting in.

      So, it has happened, even though it’s not the best comp for Anthony’s situation. But it was, for the most part, about controlling his own NBA destiny and less about financial incentive. He wanted to be dealt to one particular team but they didn’t have the assets for it to work and he didn’t want to end up in a city he didn’t want to be in. If Anthony wants to help control his NBA destiny, he, too, can waive some financial power.

      But, more reasonably, the recent comp to look at is Paul Pierce in 2010. Pierce opted out of the final $21.5 million due him and signed a four year contract that started at $13.8 million. (The pay schedule for that contract went like this: $13.8; $15.3; $16.7; $15.3. Presumably the increases and decreases were by design, with an eye on the team’s financial flexibility over those years). (Pierce was 32 at the time, two years older than Anthony is now, but he’d played the same number of years in the league, and had amassed about the same # of minutes Anthony has now).

    26. bidiong

      I am glad that Phil told Melo to opt in, and I’m also glad that he has stated that if Melo is not make or break to the Knicks future and inferring that he won’t make decisions based on a superstar. I feel like this will command respect in the future for his decisions and will lead to a better future regardless as long as Dolan doesn’t stick his dirty nose into business. We’re NEW YORK damnit, you should want to bring us a championship!

    27. ephus

      In 2012 Dwight Howard opted into the final year of his contract with the Magic. But he gave a verbal agreement to the Magic that he wouldn’t exercise the ETO before the trade deadline (to assist the FO in making decisions for the future).

      Actually, Dwight Howard signed a document to get rid of his ETO. If he had not signed the document, he would have been traded at the deadline in March 2012. By signing the waiver, he guaranteed that the Magic would control his rights through 2012-13. But when Howard and the Magic clashed during the last twenty games of 2012, it was clear that 2012-13 would be Howard’s last year in Orlando. Rather than ride it out for one last year with Howard, they traded him to Los Angeles in the four team deal that brought Orlando: Arron Afflalo, Al Harrington, Nikola Vucevic, Moe Harkless, Josh McRoberts, Christian Eyenga, a first-round pick from either the Nuggets or the New York Knicks in 2014, a protected first-round pick from the Sixers, a protected first-round pick from the Lakers in 2017, a second-round pick from the Nuggets in 2013 and a conditional second-rounder from the Lakers in 2015.

      If Melo is going to opt-in, he runs injury risk (which could be mitigated by insurance) and the risk that the Knicks would trade him at the deadline.

      If Melo opts in this year and stays with the team, his cap hold next year would in some ways limit the flexibility of 2015. If the Knicks actually want maximum flexibility next year, the best deal is to sign Melo to a contract at a discount from his max contract this year.

      Not really. If Melo opts in, he could sign an extension after July 1 for up to 3 years (thru 2017-18) at any salary with raises/decreases of 7.5% per year. He also could wait until the July Moritorium in 2015 to sign a new contract, which would replace his cap hold…

    28. d-mar

      The Spurs are just amazing. They lose Parker for the whole 2nd half and OT, and still figure out a way to win. Mostly by playing their usual brand of intelligent, turnover-free basketball and making key defensive plays.

      On the other side of the coin, as talented as Durant and Westbrook are, they had 14 turnovers between them, and that Westbrook shot at the end when they were down 4 was beyond dumb.

      Go Spurs, stop the 3-peat!

    29. Alecto

      It’s satisfying when the better team doesn’t get robbed by bad missed calls like that goaltend and we get to avoid all that counterfactual-theater when the Heat beat OKC in 5.

    30. yellowboy90

      @ 33

      Ephus, with the new TV contracts and the possible jump in salary cap for teams, as a player would it be smart to opt in then sign the 3 year deal with an ETO for the third year to get another big contract when every team will likely have more money to use?

    31. JK47

      Well, I guess the Derek Fisher watch starts right about now. I like the idea of Derek Fisher, because Derek Fisher is not Mark Jackson, he is not Brian Shaw and he is not Mike Dunleavy. That’s three things he has going for him right there.

    32. mokers

      @30 I think Pierce is a pretty good comp for something that could happen. The big difference of course is that the Celtics had teammates Pierce wanted to play with and a coach he trusted and no reason to think that he was going to have to essentially play uncompetitively for a year.

      @33 thanks ephus. I never thought about the extension possibility. that may also be a decent option, but even with the maximum salary decreases, won’t the overall cap hit of the deal be more than signing for 5 years / 90 million?

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