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Saturday, November 1, 2014

Knicks Morning News (2014.04.07)

  • [New York Daily News] Knicks’ playoffs hopes up in smoke with loss to Heat (Mon, 07 Apr 2014 04:45:45 GMT)
    Carmelo Anthony was either unwilling or unable to demand the ball and therefore unable to rescue the Knicks on Sunday. With the postseason slipping away and J.R. Smith left to fire away at will, Anthony was reduced to being the NBA’s most famous and expensive decoy.    

  • [New York Daily News] Knicks Insider: Amar’e says team didn’t think big (Mon, 07 Apr 2014 03:05:04 GMT)
    Amar’e Stoudemire admitted that the Knicks failed to take advantage of the Miami Heat’s smaller lineup in a game that saw J.R. Smith attempt an NBA record 22 3-pointers on Sunday. ‘Yeah they went small,’ Stoudemire said.    

  • [New York Daily News] Lawrence: J.R. makes it 3-ring circus (Mon, 07 Apr 2014 02:58:21 GMT)
    For the first time in his professional career, Carmelo Anthony can’t do what he’s paid to do. He physically can’t shoot or play his usual aggressive brand of basketball.    

  • [New York Times] Weirdness Reigns as NBA Playoffs Loom (Mon, 07 Apr 2014 07:22:14 GMT)
    The NBA playoffs are coming. So much for predictability.    

  • [New York Times] Durant Scores 38 but Suns Beat Thunder 122-115 (Mon, 07 Apr 2014 05:16:02 GMT)
    For the 41st game in a row, Kevin Durant scored at least 25 points. Not even Michael Jordan ever did that.    

  • [New York Times] Aldridge, Blazers Top Pelicans to Clinch Playoffs (Mon, 07 Apr 2014 04:49:00 GMT)
    Given an opportunity to clinch a postseason berth, the Trail Blazers made the most if it.    

  • [New York Times] Blazers Down Pelicans to Book Playoff Spot (Mon, 07 Apr 2014 04:39:53 GMT)
    The Portland Trail Blazers clinched a berth in the NBA playoffs for the first time in three years on Sunday with a 100-94 home court win over the New Orleans Pelicans.    

  • [New York Times] Fire vs. Police: Charity Game Leads to Fight (Mon, 07 Apr 2014 04:22:43 GMT)
    The fire and police departments faced some heat at an unexpected location: a charity hockey game where the two teams traded blows.    

  • [New York Times] N.B.A. Game of the Week: Westbrook Is Key as Thunder Face a Strong Conference Foe (Mon, 07 Apr 2014 04:21:54 GMT)
    Oklahoma City will need Russell Westbrook’s energy to stack up against Los Angeles, a top Western contender with an elite point guard.    

  • [New York Times] Curry, Thompson Lead Warriors Past Jazz 130-102 (Mon, 07 Apr 2014 03:31:00 GMT)
    Klay Thompson scored 33 points, Stephen Curry added 31 points and 16 assists, and the Golden State Warriors eased past the Utah Jazz 130-102 Sunday night to keep pace in the Western Conference playoff race.    

  • [New York Times] N.B.A. Roundup: In Crushing Pacers, Hawks Pad Playoff Lead on Knicks (Mon, 07 Apr 2014 03:02:21 GMT)
    Atlanta now owns a two-game advantage for the final playoff spot in the Eastern Conference.    

  • [New York Times] Rockets Rally for 130-125 OT Win Over Denver (Mon, 07 Apr 2014 02:16:04 GMT)
    James Harden had 32 points and Chandler Parsons scored eight points in overtime to lift the Houston Rockets to a 130-125 victory over the Denver Nuggets on Sunday night.    

  • [New York Times] Hawks Rout Pacers 107-88, Boost Playoff Hopes (Mon, 07 Apr 2014 02:07:04 GMT)
    Atlanta got Indiana at exactly the right time.    

  • [New York Times] Leonard, Spurs Beat Grizzlies After Parker Leaves (Mon, 07 Apr 2014 01:39:57 GMT)
    Kawhi Leonard matched his career high with 26 points, Manu Ginobili had a season-high 26 and the San Antonio Spurs eased to a 112-92 victory over the Memphis Grizzlies on Sunday after losing Tony Parker to injury.    

  • [New York Times] Ellis, Mavs Win 3rd Straight, 93-91 Over Kings (Mon, 07 Apr 2014 01:04:05 GMT)
    Monta Ellis scored eight of his 23 points in the fourth quarter and the Dallas Mavericks kept their playoff position with their third straight win, a 93-91 victory over the Sacramento Kings on Sunday.    

  • [New York Times] Heat 102, Knicks 91: Smith Tries but Cannot Carry the Knicks (Mon, 07 Apr 2014 00:55:08 GMT)
    J. R. Smith set a team record for 3-pointers and an N.B.A. record for 3-point attempts, but an ailing Carmelo Anthony disappeared from the offense, and the Knicks had no discernible defense.    

  • 52 comments on “Knicks Morning News (2014.04.07)

    1. Z-man

      From last thread, BBA, I agree that the default position is to keep Melo. But it has to be obvious to Phil that signing Melo to a supermax contract is a losing proposition. If Melo would take, say, $18 mill per, it’s a reasonably good signing, one you can build around. If Jax caves and throws the max at Melo, what was the point of bringing him in?

      ephus, why is a sign and trade harder for teams like Washington, Indiana, Miami, OKC, Clips, Warriors, etc? And I agree that Philly would be an intriguing landing spot for Melo, but doubt that he would approve the deal. Maybe Cuban might be a player…

    2. d-mar

      Yesterday’s game was another demonstration as to why Woodson is the worst coach in the NBA. Most teams have some kind of offensive system, and whether or not their best player or players are in the game, they run it. (Look at the Spurs when Pop rests the big 3) When our star is crippled and unable to even shoot, our offense becomes let JR chuck up 22 3 pointers and hope for the best.

      Meanwhile, Amare had smaller guys guarding him and never saw the ball. I understand we lost the game mostly because our defense in the 4th quarter was awful and the Heat scored every possession, but it shouldn’t mean you abandon any kind of offensive schemes.

      Enjoy your last 4 games as an NBA head coach, Mike.

    3. Hubert

      What a weekend. Friday night was spectacular. Does anyone really still think Mike Woodson isn’t the worst coach in NBA? We would have been better off playing that game without a coach.

      I think the only real discussion is where does his season rank among the worst seasons ever coached in NY sports history.

      I think it clocks in at #3 all time behind only Rich Kotite’s 1-15 Jets and Ray Handley’s 4-12 Giants team (two years removed from a SB win). And I’m confident Woodson is going to suffer the same fate, i.e. he will never coach again in the league.

    4. ephus

      ephus, why is a sign and trade harder for teams like Washington, Indiana, Miami, OKC, Clips, Warriors, etc?

      If a team is going to be taxpayer after receiving Melo, they have to send back at least 80% of the salary they will pay Melo minus $100k. If a team is not going to be a taxpayer after receiving Melo, but will be over the salary cap, they have to send back salaries within $5 million of Melo.

      So, it’s hard to come up with a trade that has Washington, Indiana, Miami, Oklahoma City, Clippers or the Warriors sending back around $18 million in salaries.

    5. The Ghost of Ted Nelson

      it’s hard to come up with a trade that has Washington, Indiana, Miami, Oklahoma City, Clippers or the Warriors sending back around $18 million in salaries.

      But some of those teams (like Washington, yes?) are at least partially under the cap, so can’t they use their available cap space to absorb some of the contract (and send NY a trade exception for them to spend elsewhere?) That’s how it used to work, at least.

      Maybe Cuban might be a player…

      Dallas, it appears, could have enough room to sign Melo to a max contract, assuming they work with Dirk and his cap hold in a savvy manner. (Unlike Melo, Dirk stated a few months ago that he will definitely return to Dallas next year even though he knows it will be at a significantly reduced rate.)

    6. JK47

      It’s time to cut ties with Melo. If you can swing a sign and trade– great. If not, you have to let him walk for nothing, as painful as that sounds. I’m not sure I’d even want him back at the proposed $18M “discount.”

      This season and last season represent Melo’s peak. They were his age 28 and 29 seasons. He has had an identical .560 TS% and an identical .502 eFG% in each of the last two seasons. He is only going to decline. The 2014-2015 season is a lost cause, so you’re looking at Melo’s age 31-33 seasons as the window in which you’re hoping to contend. I just don’t like that bet.

      I look into the future, I see a banged-up thirtysomething small forward who is too slow to play any defense, who puts up a TS% in the .530’s, and who still demands a sky-high usage. I’d prefer a fresh start, honestly.

    7. lavor postell

      @ Hubert

      Larry Brown’s one season was pretty bad too considering he picked starting lineups based on whose hometown we were playing in on any given night.

    8. Nick C.

      I see the “hometown lineup” a lot with Larry Brown? I think maybe one guy had a start and when asked Brown made the hometown crack. Perhaps he started Nate (if he was there) or Jamal in Seattle. But if this board were my sole source of info I would think that was going on all 82 games. Hubert, this isn’t on you, but I keep seeing it referenced and to my recollection it happened maybe three times max, unless I have post Isaiah amnesia disorder.

    9. lavor postell

      I think we had something like 50+ different starting lineups that season. The hometown thing is definitely exaggerated, but I try to think of it more as a amusing way to point out how truly ridiculous Brown was in that season. From not being able to consistently settle on any rotation, to calling out everybody on the team but Jamal Crawford out via the media and basically forcing the Knicks to buy out the remaining 4 years of his contract resulting in him getting paid over $20m for one horrific season of coaching.

    10. Brian Cronin

      Also, that Larry Brown only started players based on their hometowns a few times is not really a defense of how absurd it was for a coach to ever do such a thing. That’s why the hometown thing is always brought up, because it was insane. The guy was clearly trying to get Isiah Thomas fired by spotlighting his problems with the roster. So he got cute by doing the hometown player stuff (“this roster is so bad that I might as well start guys based on their home towns and/or where they played college ball”) as well as having 42 different starting lineups period. He was more concerned about making Thomas look bad than he was with winning that year.

    11. Nick C.

      Alas, Larry Brown came in as the premier coach in the NBA and that was what he was driven to out of exasperation. My assumption is that Phil Jackson saw what happened to Brown, as well as Walsh (and to a lesser extent D’Antoni) and made damn sure that this was not happening to him as far as securing certain promises from Dolan.

    12. Nick C.

      Brian, my point was more as a repository of information, there is some extent a notion that we should try to be accurate or present ourselves as such. I have an absurd notion of historical accuracy on the chance people look back at this stuff and take it seriously. As it is half the board or at least a few members came of age sometime between Spreewell/Van Gundy and the Isaiah years and may well get their much past info on the team from here. As if it isn’t obvious at that time I already loathed Isaiah so Brown got a free pass (well and for actually not sucking at his job elsewhere).

    13. Brian Cronin

      But it is accurate. He did start at least five guys based on their hometowns. That’s a lot. Isiah sucked, of course, but Brown was a terrible joke with the Knicks, as well.

    14. JK47

      The guy was clearly trying to get Isiah Thomas fired by spotlighting his problems with the roster. So he got cute by doing the hometown player stuff (“this roster is so bad that I might as well start guys based on their home towns and/or where they played college ball”) as well as having 42 different starting lineups period. He was more concerned about making Thomas look bad than he was with winning that year.

      This is how I always read the Larry Brown situation– that Brown was basically being paid an absurd amount of money to troll Isiah Thomas. In Brown’s defense, it WAS a completely ridiculous roster. Stephon Marbury and Jamal Crawford were the starting backcourt. The “muscle” upfront was comprised of Eddy Curry and Channing Frye. Mo Taylor, Malik Rose and Qyntel Woods (!) all played 1000+ minutes. Jerome James and Steve Francis were on the team.

      Brown’s idea to drive that trainwreck of a roster straight into the ditch was actually kind of an admirable strategy.

    15. Nick C.

      Brian who did he start. Seriously. I remember the quote. I think maybe he started Qyntel Woods, but who else? (Kinda pathetic., this I’ll post on, but the actual team and postseason possibilities .. not so much)

    16. The Ghost of Ted Nelson

      I see the “hometown lineup” a lot with Larry Brown? I think maybe one guy had a start and when asked Brown made the hometown crack. Perhaps he started Nate (if he was there) or Jamal in Seattle. But if this board were my sole source of info I would think that was going on all 82 games. Hubert, this isn’t on you, but I keep seeing it referenced and to my recollection it happened maybe three times max, unless I have post Isaiah amnesia disorder.

      Hard to believe, but it actually happened.

      Frye started 14 games that year, one of them a 38 minutes in a loss in Phoenix.
      Nate started 26 games, one of them in Seattle. (Amazingly, Crawford came off the bench that game!)
      Ariza started 10 games, one of them 23 minutes in LA (I think he was injured when they played LAC)
      Malik Rose started 35 games(!!), among them one of the two played in Philadelphia
      Maurice Taylor started 13 games, including in Detroit (and he played 27 mins off the bench in his 2nd visit to Detroit)
      Matt Barnes started 5 games, including the game played in his home town of Sacramento.
      Qyntell Woods started 16 games, including in his hometown of Memphis.
      (Jackie Butler was scheduled to start against the Mississippi Mustangs, but the game got rained out)

    17. The Ghost of Ted Nelson

      The guy was clearly trying to get Isiah Thomas fired by spotlighting his problems with the roster.

      Maybe, but he didn’t stop after he left NY. Sean Singletary started 1 game for the Bobcats in 2009. It was in his hometown of Philadelphia. (Guess who his coach was?)

    18. Nick C.

      hahaha thanks GOTN. I seem to recall the Ariza one as being the start of it all. Thankfully that spectre in in the rear view mirror and with Phil Jackson on board I would like to think new horizons and management patterns (dare I say intelligent ones) are on the horizon.

    19. Brian Cronin

      Maybe, but he didn’t stop after he left NY. Sean Singletary started 1 game for the Bobcats in 2009. It was in his hometown of Philadelphia. (Guess who his coach was?)

      But I think his first year in Charlotte was a similar situation. He sort of took a mulligan on that first year in Charlotte, too.

    20. Hubert

      @ Hubert

      Larry Brown’s one season was pretty bad too considering he picked starting lineups based on whose hometown we were playing in on any given night.

      Larry Brown’s season is definitely in the conversation. But that team was terrible, and it’s entirely possible (if not likely) that his goal that year was to either get Isiah fired or get fired trying. Maybe he was the difference in us winning 30 games instead of 22.

      What Woodson did this year was special. A dropoff of 20+ wins when the conference went to shit around you is remarkable.

    21. Hubert

      It’s time to cut ties with Melo. If you can swing a sign and trade– great. If not, you have to let him walk for nothing, as painful as that sounds. I’m not sure I’d even want him back at the proposed $18M “discount.”

      There is only one reason to keep Melo:

      if he opts in, takes his max money next year, and agrees to hang around for the summer of 2015.

      The Knicks need to play hardball like Brian Cashman did with Arod (before he got overuled by the eerily Dolanesque Steinbrenner children):

      Melo, if you opt out, we are neither offering you a contract nor are assisting you with a sign and trade. So good luck in LA if you decide to opt out. Say hi to Mike D’antoni for us.

    22. Hubert

      Also, that Larry Brown only started players based on their hometowns a few times is not really a defense of how absurd it was for a coach to ever do such a thing. That’s why the hometown thing is always brought up, because it was insane. The guy was clearly trying to get Isiah Thomas fired by spotlighting his problems with the roster. So he got cute by doing the hometown player stuff (“this roster is so bad that I might as well start guys based on their home towns and/or where they played college ball”) as well as having 42 different starting lineups period. He was more concerned about making Thomas look bad than he was with winning that year.

      You’re right, BUT…

      Larry Brown did the hometown thing his whole career. In Game 1 of the 1994 Eastern Conference Finals against the Knicks, he gave Vern Fleming his only start of the entire postseason because Vern was born in NYC. This was game 1 of the ECF! Not only did he start him, but he played him 25 minutes (vs his average 15 mpg that postseason).

      I was 16 years old at the time and flabbergasted by how stupid it was.

    23. er

      Well Hubert in your scenario you will get your wish of no more melo. Who the he’ll are the Knicks to play hardball with anyone? They certainly aren’t the yankees.

    24. Donnie Walsh

      D’Antoni took the opposite approach. He refused to play Marbury in his hometown!

    25. Hubert

      The Yankees are in as much organizational disarray as the Knicks, but they are lucky enough that baseball has no salary cap.

      I would actually argue that Dolan is a better owner than the Steinbrenner children. But I don’t really want to because that depresses me.

      But Phil is in charge (theoretically) so it’s not far fetched that we might act much differently this summer than normal.

      PS – my wish is not “no more melo”. My wish is Melo opts in for his full, extremely overpaid salary next year, then he takes a discount in 2015.

      More explicitly, my wish is “no Melo for more than 1/3 the salary cap”. Hasn’t this season made it completely obvious that, for all his skill, he is just not as good as he thinks he is, or as good as what he earns? I’m sorry, if you can’t make the playoffs this year in this conference, you’re not a $20mm player.

    26. ephus

      I would be shocked (and I have been shocked before) if Phil Jackson brought Lance Stephenson into the fold.

      On the other hand, I could see the Knicks making a move to trade Felton and not bring back a point guard. Something like Felton for Scola (could be any other expiring contract). The guard rotation would be Shumpert/Smith/Hardaway/Prigioni and the plan would be to have Shumpert play the Ron Harper role.

    27. er

      More explicitly, my wish is “no Melo for more than 1/3 the salary cap”. Hasn’t this season made it completely obvious that, for all his skill, he is just not as good as he thinks he is, or as good as what he earns? I’m sorry, if you can’t make the playoffs this year in this conference, you’re not a $20mm player.

      The team was pretty bad most of the year. And your arguement is pretty strange considering Melo has never missed the playoffs, most years being in the west, where he was once an 8th seed with 50 wins. I think only Duncan has made the playoffs every year. Melo has the 3rd or 4th EVA this year. Strange. I do want him to go. I want a fresh start. Im tired of the debate. I want to debate Kevin Love being worth 20 Mil

    28. Brian Cronin

      Speaking of Larry Brown, he tore apart the Knicks today, including defending Woodson:

      “He’s out on the limb and that’s not fair,” Brown said of Woodson, who served as an assistant to Brown with the Philadelphia 76ers. “For a guy that really turned that franchise around and made people proud of the way they played, I don’t think he’s been treated fairly and that really bothers me.”

      He also really ripped into the whole thing about Grunwald being fired and Mills hired:

      “I don’t know what he knows about the sport to be honest with you,” Brown said of Mills, who worked for Madison Square Garden during Brown’s one year as Knicks coach. “I was with him. Steve Mills has no clue. They fired Grunwald, who was tremendous. They told [Grunwald] they couldn’t [sign] any older players. They didn’t make any changes as the season went on, and there were some opportunities to do that.”

    29. lavor postell

      Won’t matter since the Knicks will not be making the playoffs, but the Pacers look done. Hibbert looks as if he can’t be bothered to compete and that offense is just terrible. Reading some of the comments on some of their blogs a lot of people seem to think trading Hibbert and Hill this summer is a definite possibility if this season continues to unravel.

    30. Hubert

      Who the hell asked Larry Brown for his opinion on the Knicks? Isola?

      Let’s be real: coaches stick together. That’s why JVG so staunchly defends Mike Woodson on every broadcast.

      er, the only reason I want Melo back for one year is for the 1% chance that LeBron might come play for Phil and with his best friend in basketball. I think that 1% chance, as far fetched as it is, still represents our best odds at winning a championship in the next 10-15 years.

    31. Hubert

      ephus – that’s pretty amazing. A guy in charge of one of the largest entertainment businesses in the world is ignoring the input of intelligent men and CEO’s in order to let the guy who manages his band call the shots! Wow.

      So Irzoff is the new Isiah, I guess. There’s always a Wormtongue in Dolan’s ears. Here’s hoping Phil is here to play the role of Gandalf.

    32. Hubert

      Lavor, I heard today they were thinking of firing Vogel before the playoffs started! Larry would replace him.

    33. lavor postell

      Hubert,

      Yeah I love JVG but to act like Woodson has been working miracles with this team and is doing the best job possible is really annoying. Oh yeah and fuck Larry Brown. I couldn’t care less what he thinks is wrong with this franchise and how we’ve done Woodson wrong.

    34. Brian Cronin

      Lavor, I heard today they were thinking of firing Vogel before the playoffs started! Larry would replace him.

      That was just an Indy reporter doing his best New York media shitty journalist trick. He asks a question in a column and then makes it like the question he himself invented is an issue.

      You know, “Would Larry Bird really fire Vogel and take over coaching the team during the playoffs?”

      And then…GO.

    35. Brian Cronin

      A good one we had was “Would the Knicks really hire John Calipari to coach them next season?”

    36. thenamestsam

      Not only should nobody care about what Larry Brown thinks, but in what way has Woodson not been shown the support of the organization? It’s just a laughably incorrect thing to say. They gave him support publicly with the Dolan interview and privately with that meeting where Dolan pledged no changes and (and this is a big one) he hasn’t been fired despite an utter catastrophe of a season which has featured numerous perfect opportunities to can a coach – i.e. awful losses featuring bone-headed coaching moves or non-moves.

      I mean it’s unprovable but I’d wager literally everything I own that if we’d fired Woodson after game 5 we’d be playing playoff games in a week or so. They’ve literally sacrificed the season on the altar of loyalty to that incompetent clown. The idea that the org hasn’t had his back is absurd.

    37. JK47

      I hope Jax doesn’t look at Melo and say, “I can Jedi Mind Trick this guy into being a champion.” I hope he looks at Melo and says, “This guy is not the centerpiece on a championship team.” If he is thinking the former, we are probably screwed. If he is thinking the latter, there’s a possibility for a much brighter future here.

    38. er

      Lol. @ much brighter. Like Melo is some big black mark holding them back. All you need to do is look at two franchises. Okc and Cleveland both teams had 4 top 5 picks. Teams are trending in two opposite directions. It’s a crap shoot.

      Also your centerpiece argument is kind of irrelevant. Name one team who has one a title with one centerpiece player in the last 20 years. I can think of 2. Akeem and dirk, and both have had phenomenal supporting casts. Which Melo doesn’t have.

    39. Brian Cronin

      Also, while I’m certainly not blaming Melo for this season, it can’t be for years “Melo has never missed the playoffs in his career!” and then when he misses the playoffs be “You can’t blame him for them missing the playoffs!” It’s got to be either or (I choose “you can’t blame him”).

    40. er

      Brian this season was just so bizarre. I just want to move past it with or with out Melo lol

    41. BigBlueAL

      If Phil Jackson is willing to re-sign Melo and thinks he can build a championship contender I think he should get the benefit of the doubt. I would really love to see Melo playing in the triangle, seems tailor made for him.

      But yes I certainly dont like the prospects of keeping Melo at close to 130 mil over 5 yrs. However maybe Im drinking the kool-aid but I certainly have more faith in Phil Jackson trying to figure out how to win a championship with Melo then anybody else they couldve hired. Considering we all assumed Melo will be staying anyway at least he will be staying with Phil Jackson running the team and picking his own coach who will be implementing an actual offensive system.

    42. d-mar

      What a pleasure listening to Anthony and Kerr doing the color commentary tonight, no hyperbole, no screaming, just intelligent analysis and insights. And they play very well off of each other also.

      I would have absolutely no problem if Kerr was to become our coach, the guy knows the game inside and out.

    43. dtrickey

      It will be interesting to see how Phil handles the Melo situation this coming off season. I know you can’t really judge a GM on one decision, but I think the way he handles the re-signing or even not signing Melo could give us a pretty good idea how he’s going to fair. Personally I like the $18 mil idea that has been floated around on this thread. I also don’t think it’s too ridiculous that that could actually happen. Melo has indicated he is willing to take less, but I guess time will tell what a Melo “discount” is. Should be an interesting off-season.

      Lol I also read that Larry Brown article too. There is definitely coaching brotherhood bias splashed all over it. Reference to that roster on this thread also shows how naive I was as a teenager to think that Larry Brown team in 05-06 could actually do well. The folly of youth I guess. I did some pretty special things with that roster on NBA Live 06 though :-)

    44. BigBlueAL

      Remember, Woodson was an asst to Larry Brown in Detroit when they won it all so of course Larry Brown will defend him.

    45. Brian Cronin

      Yeah, I don’t think anything any coach says about another coach really means much. They tend not to want to shit on each other.

    46. Brian Cronin

      As to the whole Melo thing, I find it extremely hard to believe that the Knicks would dare play hardball with him. More likely they’ll just appeal to him on the general, “If you take $18 million a year, you might be able to play on a championship contender in a few years. I hope that you want that badly enough to take a pay cut.” Melo is definitely sticking around, I just don’t know if he’s going to do it at a discount rate or not.

    47. BKQuick

      So what’s the consensus on this forum, would the Knicks be better off working a sign and trade for “reasonable return” or re signing Melo and hoping the the draw of playing in N.Y. with a Jackson/Melo led team will be enough to bring in significant free agents in 2015?

      If you let him go or work out a sign and trade, who are you hoping to get in return?
      Besides a better than average pg, what type of players do the Knicks need to be a serious contender. If those players are available this summer or next, please name names!

      In 2015, assuming Bargs, Tyson (not worth anywhere near what he is paid if this season’s play is a real indication of where his game is) and Amare (I’d try to resign him at a vastly reduced rate) are gone and Felton is untradeable, who do you want Phil to sign and how do they fit in with Melo (if he’s still here)?

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