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Friday, October 31, 2014

Knicks Morning News (2014.02.23)

  • [New York Post] There’s no end to this Knicks nightmare (Sun, 23 Feb 2014 06:25:21 -0500)
    ATLANTA — How bad? This bad: The Knicks won't even get you out of February, and that's almost impossible to believe given the level of expectations attached to this team,…

  • [New York Times] Warriors 93, Nets 86: Big Shot by Curry and Frustrating Night for Nets (Sun, 23 Feb 2014 08:00:08 GMT)
    In the final minute, Stephen Curry fired a wild 3-point attempt that sailed high, banked off the glass and broke the Nets’ hearts.    

  • [New York Times] O’Neal, Green Carry Warriors Past Nets, 93-86 (Sun, 23 Feb 2014 06:16:11 GMT)
    Jermaine O’Neal had season highs of 23 points and 13 rebounds, Stephen Curry banked in a big 3-pointer in the final minute to finish with 17 points, and the Golden State Warriors held off the Brooklyn Nets 93-86 on Saturday night for their third straight victory since the All-Star break.    

  • [New York Times] Kings Hold Off Short-Handed Celtics 105-98 (Sun, 23 Feb 2014 06:04:18 GMT)
    Rudy Gay scored eight of his 22 points over the final six minutes, Isaiah Thomas added 21 points and matched his career high with 12 assists, and the Sacramento Kings beat the Boston Celtics 105-98 on Saturday night.    

  • [New York Times] Hawks 107, Knicks 98: Ready to Shed 2 Players, Knicks Let Game Get Away (Sun, 23 Feb 2014 05:11:59 GMT)
    The Knicks, already without three injured players, fell to the Hawks after moving to part ways with two others, Beno Udrih and Metta World Peace.    

  • [New York Times] Love Triple-Double Lifts Wolves Over Jazz 121-104 (Sun, 23 Feb 2014 04:52:09 GMT)
    Kevin Love had 37 points, 12 rebounds and 10 assists for his first career triple-double to help the Minnesota Timberwolves cruise past the Utah Jazz 121-104 Saturday night.    

  • [New York Times] George, West Help Pacers Hold on Against Bucks (Sun, 23 Feb 2014 04:27:55 GMT)
    Paul George scored 32 points and David West tied a season high with 30, helping the Indiana Pacers hang on to beat the Milwaukee Bucks 110-100 on Saturday night.    

  • [New York Times] Knicks Working to Buy Out World Peace, Udrih (Sun, 23 Feb 2014 04:03:59 GMT)
    The New York Knicks are preparing to buy out the contracts of veterans Metta World Peace and Beno Udrih.    

  • [New York Times] N.B.A. Roundup: Best Streak For Bobcats Since 2011: Four Wins (Sun, 23 Feb 2014 04:03:49 GMT)
    The Bobcats used an 18-3 run in the fourth quarter to break open a tight game and snap Memphis’s four-game win streak.    

  • [New York Times] Scott Scores Career High 30 as Hawks Beat Knicks (Sun, 23 Feb 2014 03:18:50 GMT)
    Mike Scott scored a career-high 30 points, Jeff Teague added 28 and the Atlanta Hawks snapped an eight-game losing streak with a 107-98 victory over the New York Knicks on Saturday night.    

  • [New York Times] Mavericks Hold Off Pistons for 113-102 Win (Sun, 23 Feb 2014 03:15:54 GMT)
    Dirk Nowitzki scored 24 points, Vince Carter added 18 and the Dallas Mavericks held off the Detroit Pistons for a 113-102 victory Saturday night.    

  • [New York Times] Nene, Wizards Dunk Pelicans, 94-93 (Sun, 23 Feb 2014 03:12:58 GMT)
    Nene made the go-ahead dunk with 0.9 seconds left and matched a season high with 30 points to propel the Washington Wizards past the New Orleans Pelicans, 94-93 on Saturday night.    

  • [New York Times] Sports Briefing: James to Wear a Mask (Sun, 23 Feb 2014 03:10:45 GMT)
    The Heat’s LeBron James planned to be fitted for a mask to protect his broken nose, saying his availability Sunday against the Chicago Bulls would be a game-time decision.    

  • [New York Times] Walker Scores 31, Bobcats Hold Off Grizzlies 92-89 (Sun, 23 Feb 2014 02:57:56 GMT)
    Kemba Walker scored 31 points and the Charlotte Bobcats won for the fourth time in five nights, defeating the Memphis Grizzlies 92-89 Saturday night.    

  • [New York Times] Lakers, Celtics Rivalry Cools With Losing Seasons (Sun, 23 Feb 2014 01:30:45 GMT)
    The historic rivalry between the Los Angeles Lakers and the Boston Celtics appeared the same, the green uniforms of the visiting team perfectly complementing the home side’s purple-and-gold.    

  • [New York Daily News] Knicks give up on World Peace, Udrih (Sun, 23 Feb 2014 06:43:37 GMT)
    The long-rumored divorce featuring Metta World Peace, Beno Udrih and the Knicks is close to being finalized, with the club agreeing to negotiate buyouts with the two seldom-used veterans after just 55 games.    

  • [New York Daily News] Knicks blow 17-point lead as Teague, Scott push Hawks to victory (Sun, 23 Feb 2014 06:40:05 GMT)
    This was not the way Carmelo Anthony expected to be celebrating the third anniversary of his celebrated trade to New York — frustrated, angry and wondering if the Knicks can somehow salvage their season.    

  • [ESPN.com - New York Knicks] Anthony surprised about buy out news (Sun, 23 Feb 2014 01:19:35 EDT)
    ATLANTA — As word spread Saturday that the Knicks had been in discussion to negotiate buyouts with Metta World Peace and Beno Udrih, some of their soon-to-be former teammates were a mixture of surprised and resigned to the business side of life in the NBA.Before the Knicks lost 107-98 in Atlanta, New York head coach Mike Woodson confirmed what several NBA sources suggested: that the team seeks to part ways with the rarely-used veterans. They were not with the team in Atlanta.

  • [ESPN.com - New York Knicks] Knicks blow yet another lead (Sun, 23 Feb 2014 00:12:31 EDT)
    ATLANTA — The method may change a little each time, but it’s gotten to where the Knicks are feeling like they’re stuck on Groundhog Day given the frequency with which they’re blowing leads.Saturday in Atlanta, a 17-point third quarter lead vanished quickly in a 107-98 loss. This one turned in a few blinks of the eye, and with six straight 3-pointers by the Hawks over the end of the quarter third and beginning of the fourth.That was part of a 20-2 run where Atlanta scored on seven straight possessions.

  • [New York Newsday] Knicks can't hold on to 17-point lead, allow 39 in fourth in loss to Hawks (Sun, 23 Feb 2014 00:01:00 EST)
    The Knicks added another game to the list of candidates for their worst loss of the season.

  • 29 comments on “Knicks Morning News (2014.02.23)

    1. Kikuchiyo

      The recaps have been great, but I thought of a format that hasn’t been used. Text won’t do. How about an audio recap, which could be a clickable MP3 file of various obscenities and groans with perhaps some sickly string music as a background. And an unexplained thud at the end, of course.

    2. Totes McGoats

      The recaps have been great, but I thought of a format that hasn’t been used. Text won’t do. How about an audio recap, which could be a clickable MP3 file of various obscenities and groans with perhaps some sickly string music as a background. And an unexplained thud at the end, of course.

      lol +1

    3. hoolahoop

      Udrih is going to get picked up and play some quality minutes for a competitive ball club. Everybody’s going say, “Why didn’t he do that when he was on the knicks”.
      Some people just don’t get it.

    4. d-mar

      As Mike Woodson would say (again) “Again, I’ve got to get this thing figured out”

      Take your time, Mike, it’s only Feb. 23rd.

    5. Totes McGoats

      I’m wondering..with all this talk about Woodson’s status an JVG rumors..what about reaching out to Billy Donovan? A list of coaches I wouldn’t mind seeing get a shot as Kicks coach:
      Stan Van
      Jeff Van
      Billy Donovan
      Shaka Smart
      Coach K (no way he’d leave Duke for this mess)
      Pah-trick You-ing!! *Mike Walczewski voice* but only if he has a strong assistant

    6. iserp

      Udrih is going to get picked up and play some quality minutes for a competitive ball club. Everybody’s going say, “Why didn’t he do that when he was on the knicks”.
      Some people just don’t get it.

      Totally perplexing. We have so many problems at PG and we don’t even try possible solutions in our own roster. I wish Woodson was fired and someone else granted Udrih to start; we cant do worse than we are doing right now.

    7. JK47

      I agree that Beno should have gotten a chance to play more.

      That’s what it has come to: wishing Beno Udrih could get more burn. That’s how terrible Ray Felton is. That is a special kind of terrible.

    8. ephus

      There is a reason that Tim Hardaway Jr. fell to the Knicks. He is a bad defensive player.

      There is a reason why Ray Felton was available for $3 mm/year. He is a bad PG with a tendency to get out of shape.

      There is a reason why Pablo Prigioni was not pursued by other teams. He is a slightly built pass-first PG who cannot stay in front of quick PGs and cannot body with strong PGs. He is a back up, not a difference maker.

      There is a reason why Beno Udrih was available at the league minimum. He is a horrible defender.

      The Knicks plan to piece together the back court after spending $65 million on Melo/Stat/Chandler/Bargnani was betting on a long shot.

    9. Owen

      Tim really is awful defensively. It’s hard to believe given his north/south athletic gifts but so far I haven’t seen the strength or lateral movement to allow him to defend at an NBA level. I don’t know, I guess he was just exposed having to guard a quick point guard.

      Felton is bad but he should be a mediocre backup point. The price isn’t totally unreasonable for that. He is playing horribly but he isn’t quite as bad as this, I think. Just a rough year.

      I think complaining about Prigioni is strange. He has given us great production the last two years for a pittance. I think a lot of teams would love to have him at his price. He’s a solid nba point. Nothing spectacular but serviceable…

      But yeah, spending that much on amare/bargs really makes filling out the roster difficult…

    10. BigBlueAL

      It was great reading Twitter today when I woke up and seeing Isola making fun of Robert Randolph who tweeted that Dolan is the best owner in sports and that it is Woodson’s fault the team has been so bad this season.

    11. ephus

      @owen. I am not complaining about Prigioni. I am recognizing that he is a solid back up PG, which is a solid find with $1.7 mm. For a myriad of reasons, he cannot be the starter on a good team. Too old to play 30 minutes/game, too slow to stay in front of quick PGs, too slight to handle physical PGs.

    12. flossy

      It was great reading Twitter today when I woke up and seeing Isola making fun of Robert Randolph who tweeted that Dolan is the best owner in sports and that it is Woodson’s fault the team has been so bad this season.

      Wow, even the Knicks’ paid shills are admitting that Woodson is a disaster.

    13. Jack Bauer

      Ok it is beyond arguing that this is a completely lost season benefiting only Denver and that Woodson will be fired at some point (God Willing). Now we have to decide which Melo scenario is best :

      A) He walks and the Knicks get nothing and hit the complete re-set button
      B) Knicks sign him to a max contract tying up their cap room for years to come on a declining player
      C) He agrees to something less than the max (not sure why he’d do that and trust the 3 Stooges that run this organization)

      C would appear to be perhaps the best scenario, but how likely is that and will it work or is it better to blow it all up and start over ??? That is the 125 million dollar question. Of course whatever good ideas show up on this blog we can count on Jimmy Guitar to do something completely different and completely stupid.

    14. coyle022

      It looks like the playoffs in the East will top out at about 45 losses. Maybe more, maybe less, but 45 losses seems to a decent benchmark, considering the horrendous play of ATL currently, as well as potential injuries. Probably closer to 40, but for the Knicks’ sake, 45 is about as optimistic as it can get. That leaves NYK with about 10 losses to work with. Looking at the schedule, there are about 5 guaranteed losses. Like there is a 0% chance the Knicks win this game. MIA(2x) , GS (2X), and IND at home. That leaves about 1-5 losses for the Knicks to work with. Of course none of this matters because Woodson will find a way to lose multiple winnable games, but if the Knicks somehow found a way to heat up here down the stretch, the schedule is somewhat lenient, at least in terms of playing really good teams. It’s mostly games against TOR, BKN, a pair of Utah games, etc. So while they are playing teams over 500, they’re not necessarily playing good teams. Or at least, the Knicks will have more talent when taking the floor against most of their upcoming opponents. Whether or not Woodson will find new ways to screw it up, that remains to be seen. But in all seriousness, the Knicks have a shot at the 6-8 seeds, only because of the fact that all teams that are not IND or MIA (maybe TOR and CHI) are too unpredictable. Like ATL was the clear cut 3 seed not too long ago, and yet as of last night they were scrapping for the 8th seed. So anything can happen, but with Woodson at the helm, the NYK expectations should be tempered. 8th Seed here we come!

    15. dtrickey

      How about an audio recap, which could be a clickable MP3 file of various obscenities and groans with perhaps some sickly string music as a background. And an unexplained thud at the end, of course.

      Lel!!

      Will be interesting to see with buyouts and waivers whether the Knicks pick up anyone on the cheap for the rest of the season. I mean it’s probably completely moot at this stage of the season given our position, but it might be nice to see some Knicks news other than how we blew another lead or general commentary on our ineptitude this season. I can see us potentially signing Ben Gordon after he’s bought out and this board just exploding.

    16. d-mar

      @15 I’d like to believe the Knicks have a shot at the playoffs, but really, is there any team in the NBA right now that we’re clearly better than and where you can chalk up a W for us when we play them? The Bucks? The Magic? The Kings? The Sixers? Lost to all of them.

      This season is over, now all we have is more Melo-drama and praying Denver doesn’t pull a Chicago and get the #1 pick in the draft.

    17. Jack Bauer

      Playoffs ?!!!?? You can’t be serious, they cannot even beat the worst teams in the league at home or on the road. Unless Woodson is fired now and they get a real coach who gets them playing monumentally better they are not making the playoffs.

    18. JK47

      I’m rooting for Denver to get the #1 pick. Dolan needs to learn a lesson.

      That’s right. The pick is already a sunk cost; it doesn’t cost us anything more if Denver picks #1 but at least it has the side benefit of humiliating Dolan.

    19. hoolahoop

      Making the playoffs would only embolden Woodson and Dolan. This pathetic team doesn’t deserve to make the playoffs.

      Why is everyone assuming Woodson is going to be fired in the off season. Common sense doesn’t apply here. If he hasn’t been fired at this point, there’s absolutely no indication that he’ll ever be fired. And if the knicks finish the season on some sort of win streak, let alone make the playoffs, it’s even more likely Woodson will stay.

    20. Brian Cronin

      Major props to Jason Collins. 10 minutes played tonight in a Nets win (a +8).

      Did you all know that the Nets were actually the playoff team closest to the Knicks before tonight’s win? Weird. They seemed to be doing pretty well but I guess not.

    21. dtrickey

      Did you all know that the Nets were actually the playoff team closest to the Knicks before tonight’s win? Weird. They seemed to be doing pretty well but I guess not.

      Did not know that, but I guess that’s just how poor the East has been this year. I wouldn’t be surprised if we were some how wrangled a playoff berth. This team over the last few years have always managed to have a big run to close out the season, it’s just I don’t really care if we actually do it this year.

      Props to Jason Collins too. I was kind of hopeful we would look at him at during the off-season. He’s probably not hugely valuable on the court given his player type are a dying breed, but I have no doubt he would have been a good voice in the locker room. Could have played the Kurt Thomas role nicely.

    22. ess-dog

      Whatever happened to Bobby Brown?
      Can’t we bring him back to play point?
      Yes, that’s what it’s come to.

    23. Frank

      Not that it matters at all (this season is over regardless of whether we miraculously slip into the 8 seed), but isn’t it about freaking time that we give Toure Murry a shot? I feel like a starting lineup of Murry, JR or Prigs, THJ, Melo, and Chandler is better at this point. Hide THJ on the least threatening wing. Let Murry pressure the ball. And if there’s no true PG on the court, let Melo play point forward like Durant or Lebron. Then let Felton play backup PG where he belongs – attacking and guarding 2nd team guards.

      Anyway you know who we’ve really missed? Kenyon Martin. There is zero defensive communication on the floor at this point. Just guys walking into the paint and other guys watching them go by.

      And re: THJ – my worry about him was always that he has very little value if he is missing shots. Doesn’t rebound, doesn’t pass, doesn’t defend. He was God-awful against Atlanta (although he is totally miscast guarding a guy like Teague). If only we had a real coach to teach him defense. He needs to work on defensive fundamentals and definitely needs to work on his left hand — when the league gets around to really scouting him, they’ll close out hard on him shading him right.

    24. Brian Cronin

      The problem with Teague was that Felton had five fouls and between the guys Woody was willing to play (JR, Prigs and THJ), THJ was probably the least awful choice to guard Teague, despite being a, you know, terrible choice to guard Teague.

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