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Thursday, November 27, 2014

Knicks Morning News (2014.02.22)

  • [New York Post] Melo: Knicks have to move on from trade deadline (Sat, 22 Feb 2014 02:07:22 -0500)
    ORLANDO, Fla. — Carmelo Anthony isn't sure whether the Knicks standing pat at the trade deadline while their competitors improved was the right or wrong thing to do. But he…

  • [New York Post] Tyson blooper has to be the last straw for Knicks (Sat, 22 Feb 2014 00:29:59 -0500)
    ORLANDO, Fla. — They have been dying bit by bit, piece by piece, week after week, game after game. They have suffered a thousand cuts, inflicted a thousand indignities on themselves…

  • [New York Daily News] Chandler blocks own dunk as Knicks lose ugly game to Magic in 2OT (Sat, 22 Feb 2014 06:30:13 GMT)
    Tyson Chandler nullified his own reverse dunk by blocking it inside the basket with his head. That epic failure was topped when Magic center Nikola Vucevic lost his head and blew a last-second layup at the rim. It really was one of those rare games where neither side deserved to win.    

  • [New York Daily News] Sore point: Felton rips critics who say he is out of shape (Sat, 22 Feb 2014 06:28:56 GMT)
    The wait is over Raymond Felton and the weight is off. Or so he says. Felton survived Thursday’s trade deadline and will remain, for better or worse, with the Knicks for the remainder of the season. That may not sit well with some Knicks fans that have identified Felton as problem No. 1 with the roster.    

  • [New York Times] Lakers Rally to Beat Celtics 101-92 (Sat, 22 Feb 2014 07:33:58 GMT)
    In their first game with the Lakers and coach Mike D’Antoni, MarShon Brooks and Kent Bazemore made sure Los Angeles came out a winner in the latest matchup of the NBA’s most storied rivalry.    

  • [New York Times] Sports Briefing: James’s Status Is Uncertain (Sat, 22 Feb 2014 06:05:51 GMT)
    LeBron James broke his nose Thursday in a game against the Oklahoma City Thunder. His availability for Sunday’s game against Chicago was uncertain.    

  • [New York Times] Lillard Has 28 and Blazers Down Jazz 102-94 (Sat, 22 Feb 2014 05:36:53 GMT)
    Damian Lillard had 28 points and the short-handed Portland Trail Blazers came back from a third-quarter deficit to beat the Utah Jazz 102-94 Friday night.    

  • [New York Times] Randolph Has 21 and Grizzlies Beat Clippers 102-96 (Sat, 22 Feb 2014 05:21:54 GMT)
    With Tony Allen back, the Memphis Grizzlies were able to turn up their defense pressure and hold off the Los Angeles Clippers down the stretch.    

  • [New York Times] Suns Roll Past Road-Weary Spurs 106-85 (Sat, 22 Feb 2014 05:04:51 GMT)
    Ish Smith scored a career-high 15 points, matched his career best of seven rebounds and triggered a 17-point second-quarter run that propelled the Phoenix Suns past the weary San Antonio Spurs 106-85 Friday night.    

  • [New York Times] Magic 129, Knicks 121 (2OT): Two Ticks of Clock Against Magic Prove Microcosm of the Knicks’ Fading Season (Sat, 22 Feb 2014 05:01:00 GMT)
    On Tyson Chandler’s dunk attempt in overtime, the ball caromed off his head and bounced back out of the basket, another example of the Knicks getting in their own way.    

  • [New York Times] Ross Leads Raptors Past Cavs, 98-91 (Sat, 22 Feb 2014 04:09:55 GMT)
    A terrible third quarter in Toronto brought Cleveland’s season-long winning streak to a sudden halt.    

  • [New York Times] Bulls Ride Fast Start to 117-89 Win Over Nuggets (Sat, 22 Feb 2014 03:49:14 GMT)
    D.J. Augustin had 22 points and eight assists, and the Chicago Bulls routed the Denver Nuggets 117-89 Friday night for their fifth consecutive victory.    

  • [New York Times] Pistons Rally for 115-107 Win Over Hawks (Sat, 22 Feb 2014 03:24:56 GMT)
    Andre Drummond had 20 points and 11 rebounds and Kyle Singler made a pair of big 3-pointers late in the fourth quarter to lead the Detroit Pistons over the Atlanta Hawks 115-107 on Friday night.    

  • [New York Times] Magic Rally, Down Knicks 129-121 in 2 OTs (Sat, 22 Feb 2014 03:24:55 GMT)
    Arron Afflalo had 32 points, rookie Victor Oladipo added 30 points and a career-high 14 assists, and the Orlando Magic rallied to beat the New York Knicks 129-121 in double overtime on Friday night.    

  • [New York Times] Jefferson Lifts Bobcats Past Pelicans 90-87 (Sat, 22 Feb 2014 03:04:12 GMT)
    Al Jefferson had 33 points and 10 rebounds, and the Charlotte Bobcats defeated the New Orleans Pelicans 90-87 Friday night for their third straight victory since the All-Star break.    

  • [New York Times] Nowitzki, Marion Lead Mavericks Over 76ers (Sat, 22 Feb 2014 02:40:00 GMT)
    Dirk Nowitzki scored 25 points, Shawn Marion had 22 and the Dallas Mavericks beat undermanned Philadelphia 124-112 Friday night, handing the 76ers their 10th straight loss.    

  • [New York Times] Collins Would Be an Asset on the Court, the Nets Say, Not a Distraction Off It (Sat, 22 Feb 2014 02:13:52 GMT)
    Deron Williams said that Jason Collins would be welcomed by the Nets if he joined them as the N.B.A.’s first openly gay player.    

  • [New York Newsday] Carmelo Anthony scores 44 but Knicks squander 14-point lead, lose in 2 OTs (Sat, 22 Feb 2014 00:09:39 EST)
    ORLANDO, Fla. — The Knicks had what seemed to be a comfortable lead on a night when Carmelo Anthony was lighting it up offensively, but they couldn't close out the game — again.

  • 67 comments on “Knicks Morning News (2014.02.22)

    1. DRed

      In other news, Herring had a pretty interesting article in the WSJ for all you Shump haters.

      And it’s being reported that we’re on the verge of buying out Metta and Beno.

    2. cgreene

      Ahhh. Back to laughing stock of the entire league. Our rightful place. It’s only been like 3 or 4 years. You all should check out Daniel Artest’s Twitter feed. He’s def talking for Ron.

    3. max fisher-cohen

      Daniel Artest, I salute you. Here’s the now deleted tweets. Just saying everything we all know already:

      Ron’s brother on Twitter:

      Daniel Artest ?@DMArtestQB 56m

      Am I allowed to cut ties with knick fans too or nah?

      Daniel Artest ?@DMArtestQB 55m

      I’m just happy Ron can breathe again. Hopefully he lands on a team that’ll appreciate what he brings.

      Daniel Artest ?@DMArtestQB 52m

      Mike Woodson is trash as a coach. That’s my opinion. The Knicks are a trash organization. That’s my opinion too. Melo deserves better. Fact!

      Daniel Artest ?@DMArtestQB 52m

      Knick fans deserve better than this.

      Daniel Artest ?@DMArtestQB 49m

      Ron wanted to be a knick his entire career and his dream became a nightmare. Knicks need an overhaul. Top to bottom

      Daniel Artest ?@DMArtestQB 47m

      How u an owner but ppl control you? He had to be kissing another of the same sex and it’s on tape. #KnicksTape

      Daniel Artest ?@DMArtestQB 45m

      Ron didn’t even care about playing really. He just wanted to be a knick.

      Daniel Artest ?@DMArtestQB 39m

      I’m not threatening Dolan on twitter tho. Lol. Some fan is locked up for that. Lol. However. I can say he’s the worst owner in sports.

      Daniel Artest ?@DMArtestQB 39m

      One thing about Dolan. He hates knick slander but he loves the attention it gets. Trust me. I know.

      Daniel Artest ?@DMArtestQB 35m

      I knew Knicks was bullshit when @NY_KnicksPR had me in office like. “Daniel. Ur tweets are a distraction.” Please.

      Daniel Artest ?@DMArtestQB 33m

      Out of respect…. I didn’t listen to @NY_KnicksPR however. “$15k would hush me”

      Daniel Artest ?@DMArtestQB 29m

      I’m more disappointed that Ron didn’t get a chance. No knock but some players didn’t play the mins deserved. I know Ron could’ve helped.

      Daniel Artest ?@DMArtestQB 27m

      And I know my tweets on nyk was partly the reason too. Ron always be like chill. They watching.

      cont…

    4. max fisher-cohen

      Daniel Artest ?@DMArtestQB 26m

      @NY_KnicksPR and the @nyknicks org should worry about winning and ur on floor product instead of what I’m tweeting next.

      Daniel Artest ?@DMArtestQB 24m

      Lakers org was never this way. Class personified. It was a family atmosphere.

      Daniel Artest ?@DMArtestQB 20m

      Mike Woodson isn’t the man for NYC. Puppets will never prosper. Well actually. He made millions coaching. Still a yes man tho.

      Ron got in on the act too with this tweet before announcing he’s working on a buy out:

      Metta World Peace @MettaWorldPeace 12h

      I might Fire my agent and sign with CAA sports agency. The coaching staff , front office n some of the players are signed with CAA. joke:)

    5. mokers

      Good article dred. Shump does have value on defense, but I think another title of that article could be “Why Mike Woodson’s switching scheme is so stupid”. The example he uses from the Memphis game is perfect. Doubling in the post, regardless of the situation, the shooter, the time of game, etc., is just a terrible way to teach defense. Everybody in the league is able to expose it, so you wonder why the coaches continue with it.

    6. Hubert

      Still boycotting this team til Woodson gets fired. And you know what, it’s not some sort of principled stand or anything. It’s just that I know with aboslute certainty atrocities like last night will continue to happen, so why subject myself to it? His ongoing employment is an insult to us.

      The guy will have a future in this league, though. He’s tanking gold. He will be in high demand going forward among teams positioning themselves for the #1 pick.

    7. BigBlueAL

      Twitter has been on a roll today with the Artest and Udrih buyout news. Days like today where love him or mostly hate him Isola is great with his tweets.

    8. JK47

      It pisses me off to no end that this sorry ass Knicks team is 25th in the league in defensive efficiency, 28th in the league in eFG% allowed and 30th in FT/FGA, yet they cannot find a use for MWP. Not that it probably would have mattered since the defensive scheme the Knicks play would probably fail miserably even if you sent prime versions of Gary Payton, Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Kevin Garnett and Dikembe Mutumbo out there to play it.

    9. mokers

      It pisses me off to no end that this sorry ass Knicks team is 25th in the league in defensive efficiency, 28th in the league in eFG% allowed and 30th in FT/FGA, yet they cannot find a use for MWP.

      Is there anybody on the Knicks who is even close to knowing as much about defensive positioning as MWP?

    10. Hubert

      Metta was kind of awful whenever he played. Herring recently pointed out his terrible man to man defense (basically when MWP was guarding you, you had a 75% chance of scoring or something).

      We’ll see if he can catch on. It’s a shame he never got a chance to play here when he was good. Not sure playing him this year would’ve mattered, though.

    11. Donnie Walsh

      I’m just curious if we’ve made a disbeliever out of Ruruland yet? Does he get us yet? Has he joined the dispirited masses?

      (Predictions aside, Ruru, as a Carmelo Anthony fan: is re-signing with NY, even at a discount, your honest first choice for him?)

    12. Brian Cronin

      I enjoy Isola’s rants, as well, but man, he has got to get past this whole “The Knicks won’t hire Ewing” stuff. The fact that the Knicks drive out strong-minded coaches like JVG, Thibs, etc. is totally fine. But then he lumps Ewing in with them and it makes no sense!

    13. Brian Cronin

      Here’s hoping that the Knicks take a flier on a young D-Leaguer for at least one of the two spots. They could always sign Jason Collins to distract people from how bad the team is.

    14. hoolahoop

      Most Real ballers look at this franchise like the plague. A poorly run, mismanaged organization with a shit coach that has a losing culture, creating an environment that’s difficult to succeed – viewed under magnifying glass.
      This was what is was like before Amare came to the knicks. He single-handedly changed the losing culture here. He put a bunch of kids on his back and brought the knicks back to relevance. Melo would never have come here if Amare didn’t set the table. Just like no one ‘s going to want to come here now.
      Unfortunately, Melo came here wanting to be a star, not a winner. Four years more mature, he’s going to leave wanting to be a winner more than a star. The hole this team has dug is a four to five year dig out.
      Bye bye Melo. Bye bye playoffs.

    15. johnno

      Didn’t read the whole thread –has anyone else mentioned that, if Chandler hadn’t been showboating and hanging on the rim, he never would have headed the ball back out? My kids’ rec team that I coach is called the Knicks. Today, we lost a game by 1 point in OT when one of our kids got called for a technical wth ten seconds left. I swear the team name is cursed…

    16. ephus

      Here is my totally paranoid, totally speculative conspiracy theory for the Lakers.

      I do not think that Kobe is ever going to come back. I think he is going to take a medical, which will allow him to get paid and for the Lakers to clear his salary from the cap for next season.

      The only salary that the Lakers would have left would be Steve Nash, who may retire (and clear his space).

      Lakers could then put together Melo, Lowry (or some other PG) and maybe one of the Miami three.

    17. flossy

      Here is my totally paranoid, totally speculative conspiracy theory for the Lakers.

      I do not think that Kobe is ever going to come back. I think he is going to take a medical, which will allow him to get paid and for the Lakers to clear his salary from the cap for next season.

      The only salary that the Lakers would have left would be Steve Nash, who may retire (and clear his space).

      Lakers could then put together Melo, Lowry (or some other PG) and maybe one of the Miami three.

      Plus what will probably be a higher-than-deserved lottery pick this summer

    18. Hubert

      How could he get paid his full contract value, not be medically able to play, and not count against the cap?

    19. Totes McGoats

      Since MWP’s out any chance we go after Brewer again? I think it would be a good move unless we bring Leslie back with intent to develop him

    20. Hubert

      Hmm. Don’t see Kobe retiring unless a doctor tells him he can never play again. No indication it’s that bad yet. Dude wants his points

    21. Owen

      That conspiracy theory would explain a lot. I actually love it. Not sure I can give Junior Buss that much credit but it’s kind of a fantastic …..

    22. ephus

      Kobe is not even going to be examined by a doctor for another three weeks. When Kobe went down on December 17, the Lakers announced he was expected to be out for six weeks. Now, we are looking at a minimum of three months and he may be out for the season.

      Because Kobe only played six games this season, he could take a medical retirement, collect all of his salary for the next two years ($23.5/25 million) and clear his space for the Lakers. $48.5 million would be a hell of a severance package.

      If Kobe thinks he could come back at full strength, I do not think there is a chance in a hell that he will quietly retire. On the other hand, if Kobe decides he can’t come back at full strength, he gets his money and the Lakers get to immediately rebuild.

      And . . . if you want to get really paranoid . . . Kobe could rehab and try to come back mid season next year. The only “penalty” to the Lakers would be that salary would be returned to salary cap. The Lakers would not have to waive the players they signed in the summer of 2014.

    23. kronicfatigue

      I don’t think Silver would want to start his commish career allowing such a conspiracy, but oh man would that be great.

      Lebron, Melo, Lowry sign with LA, and Kobe is the retired player / assistant coach. Around midway through the year, rumors start swirling that Kobe is participating in practices. That he sees all the tlaent on the team and is just burning for one more run. He suits up late in the season with fresh legs.

    24. d-mar

      No Milsap tonight, the Hawks have lost 8 in a row and are falling fast.

      Career highs for Shelvin Mack and Cartier Martin anyone?

    25. ephus

      If this one comes true (and I know it is hugely improbable), I want proper credit.

      I do not know on-court strategy as many as some.

      I do not have access to players to give insight into their thoughts.

      I am not a gifted writer like many of our hosts.

      But I feel confident that I have as much insight into salary cap strategy and byzantine conspiracy as any.

    26. ephus

      I re-read the CBA and if Kobe takes a medical, he can never return to the Lakers. So that part of the paranoid vision cannot happen. But I still see a real possibility that Kobe might ride into the sunset as the Coach of the Lakers with $48.5 million in severance, IF he concludes that he cannot make a full comeback.

    27. hoolahoop

      Here is my totally paranoid, totally speculative conspiracy theory for the Lakers.

      I do not think that Kobe is ever going to come back. I think he is going to take a medical, which will allow him to get paid and for the Lakers to clear his salary from the cap for next season.

      The only salary that the Lakers would have left would be Steve Nash, who may retire (and clear his space).

      Lakers could then put together Melo, Lowry (or some other PG) and maybe one of the Miami three.

      Nor far-fetched.
      When I saw Kobe play this season it was clear to me that we’ll never see the old Kobe again.
      (I know Kobe takes a lot of heat in this forum for his shooting efficiency, but his rings trump that assertion. I consider it a privilege to have seen him play. He’s on the short list of “best ever”.)

    28. ephus

      Top ten players that I saw (1978 – Present)

      10. Bernard King (it was a short reign, but it was glorious)
      9. Shaquille O’Neal (as great as he was, the foul shooting was a major blemish)
      8. Tim Duncan
      7. Hakeem Olajuwon
      6. Kobe Bryant
      5. Larry Bird
      4. Lebron James
      3. Magic Johnson
      2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
      1. Michael Jordan

    29. er

      Great list. I always think Kareem gets short changed, probably because he played with 2 of the top 15 ever in the Big O and Magic

    30. ephus

      Is it too obvious that Teague is going to come out of this game with a Jimmer award?

      But the Knicks do such a good job of bottling up quick PGs.

    31. ephus

      If the Knicks can get the ball to Melo, he is going to light the Hawks up. Atlanta is overplaying the entry pass to Melo.

      Quick quiz, will Woodson

      a. set picks for Melo so he can get a clean catch;
      b. reverse the ball so that Melo can catch lobs and/or backdoor passes; or
      c. have Melo catch the ball 27′ from the rim and have him go 1 on 3?

    32. Owen

      The Jimmer Curse! Teague goes down….

      We really can’t lose this game. It’s ridiculous to lose to Orlando but to lose to a Hawks team without Millsap and Horford and with a gimpy Carroll and no Teague would be……par for the course I guess this season.

      25-12 for Elton?

    33. ephus

      I hated watching Moses Malone play. He was great, but the least entertaining star ever.

      I love Dr. J. Probably the most entertaining player from 1977 – 1983. If I had gotten to the Nassau Colliseum for his Nets days, I probably would have him ranked higher. But Bernard is my patron saint of basketball. I have never had more confidence in the Knicks then when Bernard had the ball in his hands.

    34. maxwell_3g

      im sad to admit that i am an ATL resident that lives 7 minutes from phillips and I am watching this one with the dog on the couch. i had my anthony mason throwback all laid out but couldnt motivate myself to watch these two clusterfuck teams live. at least the hawks have a long term vision

    35. Owen

      Other than Teague I kind of like the Hawks. The core of Korver, Millsap, Horford, and I guess Carroll seems pretty solid….

      Having Horford go down two years in a row is a brutal blow.

    36. Donnie Walsh

      oh man would that be great. Lebron, Melo, Lowry sign with LA and Kobe

      Plus they’ll have their top5 draft selection, who will probably turn out to be better than all those guys.

    37. BigBlueAL

      Yup, rotate to a 25% 3pt shooter and leave arguably the best 3pt shooter in the league open for a corner 3pter. But then again when you have a head coach who has admitted that he doesnt think corner 3pters are that big a deal this is what you get.

    38. ephus

      Two nights in a row, Tyler has made lazy passes after a strong play. Last night, it was a lazy outlet after a steal. Tonight, it was a lazy pass to Stat after an offensive rebound.

    39. ephus

      It’s obvious that Woodson has no concept of the two-for-one.

      Tonight, they are going up against Lou-for-one Williams, probably the best in the league at getting the shot off with 32 seconds left.

    40. maxwell_3g

      woodson is the worst. things start to go a little wrong, and his first reraction is always to sub the vet in for the young player. like the vets havent been a huuuuge part of this shit season. let tyler play damnit. and let toure in the game too

    41. Owen

      I should have known Mike Scott was the Jimmer candidate….

      I have used him a few times in fantasy. Kind of like their Shump. But better.

    42. Totes McGoats

      Top ten players that I saw (1978 – Present)

      10. Bernard King (it was a short reign, but it was glorious)
      9. Shaquille O’Neal (as great as he was, the foul shooting was a major blemish)
      8. Tim Duncan
      7. Hakeem Olajuwon
      6. Kobe Bryant
      5. Larry Bird
      4. Lebron James
      3. Magic Johnson
      2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
      1. Michael Jordan

      Great list actually. Unfortunately when u do lists like this some great player gets shortchanged. Like I would want Shaq and Dream higher..but over who? Also I would love to throw AI on that list..but I can’t leave any of those guys off. But, u know who doesn’t get the recognition he deserves as a truly great player? Barkley. Chuck was incredible, and I can’t figure out why it seems like alotta folks don’t see how good he was. His Phoenix years? WOW. As a Sixer..dude was barbaric on the court! I got into a “heated debate” a few weeks ago with a friend about who was better..Mailman or Chuck. I said Chuck of course. It sucks that you can’t really argue one player’s merits over another without sounding like you’re taking something away from the other player.

    43. Kahnzy

      Seriously…put a body on Korver and NEVER LEAVE HIM. Follow him to the bench, to the bathroom, back to his locker room, back to his home, in bed with his wife; NEVER LEAVE HIM.

    44. Brian Cronin

      I put up a game thread. The game was tied when I put it up so you can’t blame me for them losing the lead after the thread started!

    45. hoolahoop

      I hated watching Moses Malone play. He was great, but the least entertaining star ever.

      I love Dr. J. Probably the most entertaining player from 1977 – 1983. If I had gotten to the Nassau Colliseum for his Nets days, I probably would have him ranked higher. But Bernard is my patron saint of basketball. I have never had more confidence in the Knicks then when Bernard had the ball in his hands.

      I saw Dr. J play as a rookie in one of his first games in the ABA when he was on the Virginia Squires against the Nets in the Commack Arena – an old airplane hanger. The absolute most awesome displays on dunking I’ve ever seen!
      I love the knicks, but Dr. J > Bernard.

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