Knicks Morning News (2014.02.09)

  • [New York Times] Williams, Burke Lift Jazz Past Heat 94-89 (Sun, 09 Feb 2014 05:56:07 GMT)

    Marvin Williams has been so hot the last three games that he didn’t let an air ball bother him.    

  • [New York Times] Roundup: James and Heat Misfire in Loss to Jazz (Sun, 09 Feb 2014 05:26:34 GMT)

    LeBron James was 4 of 13 for 13 points, his lowest scoring total since Nov. 19, as the Utah Jazz defeated the Miami Heat on Saturday night.    

  • [New York Times] Howard, Harden Lead Rockets Over Bucks 101-95 (Sun, 09 Feb 2014 04:23:05 GMT)

    Dwight Howard scored 27 points, including three crucial free throws in the closing seconds, and James Harden scored 10 of his 22 points in the decisive third quarter to help the Houston Rockets hold off the short-handed, scrappy Milwaukee Buckets and win their fifth straight, 101-95 on Saturday night.    

  • [New York Times] Aldridge Leads Blazers Past ‘Wolves 117-110 (Sun, 09 Feb 2014 03:50:56 GMT)

    LaMarcus Aldridge scored 16 of his 26 points in the second half and Wesley Matthews added 21 to help the Portland Trail Blazers hold off the injury-depleted Minnesota Timberwolves 117-110 Saturday night.    

  • [New York Times] Jennings Has 35 and Pistons Top Nuggets 126-109 (Sun, 09 Feb 2014 03:23:07 GMT)

    Brandon Jennings had a season-high 35 points to go with 12 assists, Josh Smith had 30 points and the Detroit Pistons avoided another fourth-quarter collapse in a 126-109 win over the Denver Nuggets Saturday night.    

  • [New York Times] Grizzlies Win With Defense Again, Beat Hawks 79-76 (Sun, 09 Feb 2014 03:02:15 GMT)

    Zach Randolph scored 20 points and the Memphis Grizzlies continued their pattern of winning on the road with strong defense, shutting down the Atlanta Hawks 79-76 Saturday night.    

  • [New York Times] Mills’ 32 Points Lift Spurs Over Bobcats 104-100 (Sun, 09 Feb 2014 02:43:59 GMT)

    Patty Mills scored 18 of his season-high 32 points in the fourth quarter and Tim Duncan had a double-double to lead the San Antonio Spurs to a 104-100 victory over the Charlotte Bobcats on Saturday night for their fourth win in five games.    

  • [New York Daily News] Shooting Stars: Top scorers Durant and Melo go toe-to-toe (Sun, 09 Feb 2014 04:53:02 GMT)

    Mike Woodson may shudder the next time he’s invited for tea with James Dolan and Carmelo Anthony. But on Sunday, when Anthony and the Knicks visit the Oklahoma City Thunder, another meeting of big shots will be on display.    

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    10 thoughts to “Knicks Morning News (2014.02.09)”

    1. I read about the knicks giving THJr, Shump and taking Wallace contract to acquire Rondo and it sounds to me like this years knicks dumb move.
      2010: sign amare to a 5 year deal when the best medical staff in the NBA was saying that in the best case scenario he was going to last 3 years.
      2011: not using the amnesty clause on Amare.
      2012: letting Jeremy Lin go for nothing.
      2013: giving a first round pick for Bargnani.
      2014: add there the 2018 first round pick and you have this years one.
      I understand you don’t want to part ways with a player like Carmelo but you can’t be always doubling up on a bad hand, so you have to tell Carmelo if he wants to waste another year of his prime with this mediocre team and sell him a decent strategy for 2015 like signing Dragic, who is the best available point guard in 2015 and a good fit to Melos game. Then trying to acquire a long 3 and D wing player, here I like Ariza and Wilson Chandler but I don’t think we have the assets to go after neither of them, so we may have to go after that kind of player in the 2015 draft and/or sing a Demarre Carrol, Brandan Wright o any hard working consistent player like those available in FA.
      If he doesn’t trust in this organization and wants to leave they have to work on a suitable destination for him that has some assets to get back in return, then trade Chandler to any contender willing to give something in return and start over.
      Trading for a point guard who can’t shoot, giving all the assets you have and loosing all your flexibility is just stupid. I don’t know too much about this business and this seems really obvious for me so I don’t want to know how some of you, who actually know quite a bit, feel about this organization.

    2. The Rondo rumors leave me with a sense of dread. Deep, foreboding, existential dread.

      I’m with you on that one.
      I see Rondo coming here and becoming a mediocre PG. A disgruntled, mediocre PG. An expensive, disgruntled, mediocre PG. An expensive, disgruntled, mediocre PG that can’t hit an open 15 footer. An expensive, disgruntled, mediocre PG that can’t hit an open 15 footer that we’re locked into for four years. An expensive, disgruntled, mediocre PG that can’t hit an open 15 footer coming off a big injury that we’re locked into for four years, that we trade in year three, for nothing in return.

    3. Hey everyone, I’m a Knicks fan living in Massachusetts, visiting NYC for the week. Anyone have any suggestions for a good place to watch the game today?

    4. Yeah I’d rather keep Shump and Hardaway if Lowry is still available. I think Shump/THJ could thrive under a coach like Jeff Van Gundy. I also think Lowry is a better fit for Melo than Rondo and we should be looking for a stretch 5 as well. I’m not keen on trades involving too many teams but the following one is quite simple and imo could go through:

      Toronto..Felton/MWP/OKC 2014 pick
      76ers……NYK 2018 lottery-protected pick/Sefolosha (expiring)

      Risk to us is that we’d have to re-sign both Lowry and Hawes so some type of agreement would have to be made before the trade would be completed. TC excellent fit for OKC which keeps Adams/Jackson and would not re-sign Sefolosha anyway given Lamb’s performance. 76ers have indicated they won’t re-sign Hawes so receiving a lottery-protected draft pick would be found money. Raptors are a question mark: do they keep Lowry, collect playoff money, and then let him walk for nothing or snag a 2014 first-round pick?

      If we waive-and-stretch JR’s contract in 2015, I guesstimate we would have about 15m of free cap to add to Melo/Lowry/Shump/THJ/Hawes. 15m plus 5m mle plus 2m BAE would allow us to build a strong 8 or 9 man rotation.

    5. 2011: not using the amnesty clause on Amare.

      Oh, please. The guy was coming off a season where he put up 25 and 9 and was hearing MVP chants at the Garden. No team in the league would have amnestied a player like that. Their mistake was picking up the option on Billups only to amnesty him a couple months later, when with an ounce of foresight they could have just declined him and traded away another bit part to make room for Chandler, and then had their amnesty available for then the wheels fell off Amar’e.

      Speaking of lack of foresight, I wonder what Tyson Chandler thinks of having turned down that contract offer from Golden State…

    6. Zanzibar — teams under the cap don’t get to use the MLE. It’s only for teams over the cap.
      Re:Rondo — I really can’t figure out how good I think he is. There have been times when I’ve thought that he is one of the top 10 players in the league and others when I’ve thought that he’s mediocre.

    7. Ok flossy I didn’t explain that well. The dumb move in 2011 was wasting the amnesty clause when you had 80m committed to a player whose knees were said to last just 2 years more.

    8. Can anybody concoct a trade in which the Knicks acquire Wilson Chandler? He would be the perfect 3/4 to pair with Melo because of his ability to play both forward positions defensively and space the floor. I can’t see a scenario in which the Nuggets make that trade straight up, but maybe if we could pull in a third team it could work.

    9. LJ44 – from hoolahoop

      February 9, 2014 at 8:49 am
      @DRed with friends near the north end of Central Park , but I’m looking to explore anyway so I’m happy to wander off from that area

      If you’re still looking for a good place to watch the knicks game today, and want to stay near Central Park North, there’s a nice neighborhood restaurant/bar at 110th & CPW. They have a huge screen and a lot of knicks fans – and cheap food and drinks. (sorry – forgot the name of the place)

    10. No trades! Just play to your capabilities. They have the squad they just need to put the screws to bad teams early. Giannis’s parents were in the audience for MIL. So, they had the juju. Road games are tough because even bad teams all of a sudden get the eye of the tiger. I still think the Knicks can do this but the W total can’t get much past 40. That means, they have to get a couple of good / unexpected wins and avoid more than a couple of let down type games. March schedule is very favorable.

      As to long term, I like signing Melo or not. Despite the well chronicled foibles of the organization we do have role players that I like. We just have to play smart and win. The stretch with Bargs as the starting 5 killed us. Amar’e’s defense has also been a major problem. Now that Tyler is in and getting run we are much more solid defensively and on the boards. We just have to avoid mental let downs.

      Let’s face it, the hand we’ve been dealt is that we won’t have cap space or high picks. The low budget FA pickups and late draft picks have been very good though. We just need to be more consistent and stop giving minutes to guys based on their sneaker contract. Maybe we need a better coach. My hope is that we’ll make the playoffs this year and in years to come and that Dolan will eventually figure out how to build a championship team.

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