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Thursday, July 24, 2014

Knicks Morning News (2014.01.01)

  • [New York Times] Bucks Send Lakers to 6th Straight Loss (Wed, 01 Jan 2014 05:57:04 GMT)
    Brandon Knight scored 18 of his career-high 37 points in the third quarter and the Milwaukee Bucks beat the Los Angeles Lakers 94-79 Tuesday night.    

  • [New York Times] Aldridge Leads Trail Blazers Over Thunder (Wed, 01 Jan 2014 04:42:03 GMT)
    After dropping two straight games on last-second shots, the Portland Trail Blazers were determined not to let it happen again on Tuesday night against the Oklahoma City Thunder.    

  • [New York Times] N.B.A. Roundup: Hawks Rally Over Celtics in Late Run (Wed, 01 Jan 2014 04:12:52 GMT)
    Jeff Teague sank two free throws that gave Atlanta the lead with less than two minutes left, and Paul Millsap had season highs with 34 points and 15 rebounds.    

  • [New York Times] Spurs 113, Nets 92: Nets End Year Gaining Nothing but Sympathy (Wed, 01 Jan 2014 04:04:49 GMT)
    Spurs’ Coach Gregg Popovich said Brooklyn has been hit with so many different problems, “You can almost not even begin to deal with that.”    

  • [New York Times] Valanciunas Leads Raptors Over Bulls 85-79 (Wed, 01 Jan 2014 03:48:20 GMT)
    Jonas Valanciunas scored 15 points and the Toronto Raptors mounted a fourth-quarter comeback to beat the Chicago Bulls 85-79 on Tuesday night.    

  • [New York Times] Gay, Cousins Lead Kings Past Rockets, 110-106 (Wed, 01 Jan 2014 02:51:06 GMT)
    Rudy Gay had 25 points and DeMarcus Cousins took over late in the fourth quarter to lift the Sacramento Kings to a 110-106 victory over the Houston Rockets on Tuesday night.    

  • [New York Times] Parker Leads Spurs to Rout of Nets (Wed, 01 Jan 2014 02:48:22 GMT)
    Tony Parker had 18 points to lead six players in double figures and the San Antonio Spurs rolled past the listless Brooklyn Nets 113-92 on Tuesday night.    

  • [New York Times] Cavs’ Kyrie Irving to Have MRI on Left Knee (Wed, 01 Jan 2014 01:27:37 GMT)
    Cavaliers All-Star guard Kyrie Irving will undergo an MRI after injuring his left knee Tuesday in a loss to the Pacers.    

  • [New York Times] Warriors Beat Magic 94-81 for 6th Straight Win (Wed, 01 Jan 2014 01:12:11 GMT)
    David Lee had 22 points and Klay Thompson added 15 in the Golden State Warriors’ 94-81 victory over the Orlando Magic 94-81 on Tuesday night.    

  • [New York Times] Connie Dierking Dies at 77; Part of Wilt Chamberlain Trade (Wed, 01 Jan 2014 01:02:48 GMT)
    Mr. Dierking was a center who teamed with Oscar Robertson at the University of Cincinnati and in the N.B.A., where he was among three players traded to bring Chamberlain back to Philadelphia.    

  • [New York Times] George’s 21 Points Lead Pacers Past Cavs, 91-76 (Wed, 01 Jan 2014 00:42:34 GMT)
    The Indiana Pacers had to wait a little longer than usual to pull away for yet another victory. Kyrie Irving and the Cleveland Cavaliers were left fretting over an MRI on the star’s left knee.    

  • [New York Daily News] Say it ain’t bro! Woodson deals with J.R.’s latest outburst (Wed, 01 Jan 2014 03:18:42 GMT)
    Knicks coach Mike Woodson didn’t sound too concerned about J.R. Smith possibly acting out on the court as a result of his younger brother Chris getting released from the team on Tuesday.    

  • [New York Daily News] Knicks Insider: Melo gets in full practice, will make road trip (Wed, 01 Jan 2014 03:17:18 GMT)
    Carmelo Anthony participated in his first full practice on Tuesday since spraining his left ankle in a game against Orlando on Dec. 23, a positive step for his possible return to the lineup on Thursday at San Antonio. Anthony plans on making the three-game trip to Texas, where he could suit up if he continues to progress in his treatment.    

  • [New York Post] 20 things in New York sports to look forward to in 2014 (Wed, 01 Jan 2014 01:42:09 -0500)
    1. The New York-New Jersey Super Bowl Nearly 47 years ago, the NFL forever changed with the first Super Bowl, and since then a rotation of warm-weather cities and domes…

  • [New York Post] Amar’e helped Metta decide on knee procedure (Wed, 01 Jan 2014 00:34:42 -0500)
    Metta World Peace said one of the reasons he has decided on a blood-spinning therapy known as platelet-rich-plasma Jan. 6 is because it was recommended by a handful of players,…

  • 22 comments on “Knicks Morning News (2014.01.01)

    1. danvt

      Happy New Year, everyone.

      Could someone tell me what draft picks we have left? Am I to understand that we still have our 1st rounders in 2015, 2017 and 2018? We gave DEN (then TOR) 2014 and 2016?

    2. danvt

      OK, I looked it up. I’m going to write an optimistic post now. I know this season has been a total fucking quagmire. One of those situations where there is no way to feel happy about the Knicks, and if you’re like me, it actually affects your mood as a person, kind of like a sickness, let’s call it a malaise or “A general feeling of discomfort, illness, or uneasiness whose exact cause is difficult to identify.” Though of course, for me, this feeling is easy to identify though why I take it so seriously and personally might be more difficult to identify. So, I have been in an NYK based malaise.

      But there’s a cure. A play on the court based cure, not one involving NYK anonymous. The Knicks can get it together, I believe. If not this year then going forward, which for me is the main thing. Though I was hoping for a punchers chance at the elusive championship this year, I think I always based my happiness with this organization on the possibility of a ten year run of dominance at some point in the near future. The malaise comes from the prospect of spending my fifties (a decade I have not quite reached) watching NYK lose home and home series to a clearly deeper, smarter and in all ways superior Toronto Raptors team.

      Here’s the play based cure:

      1. Get a PF. The Knicks only two way PF is Carmelo Anthony. Andrea Bargnani and Amar’e Stoudemire cannot guard anyone or rebound. Neither of the two do enough on the offensive end to balance out their catastrophic impact on the game. Carmelo is a solution at 4 if you get a good 3 but that’s probably not the solution I would advocate as I see him at a disadvantage trying to guard the David West’s of the world. We’d be better with Ike Diogu as our starting 4 right now. In the future, maybe there’s a young Anthony Mason out there somewhere. A tough defender and rebounder with some developing offensive skills. Not a big ticket guy necessarily. Just a person who actually plays the position…

    3. Owen

      Happy New Year to all!

      I hope 2014 sees the Knicks take at least one step forward instead of four steps back.

    4. danvt

      2. Get another good guard. NYK has three capable PGs and it could be argued that two of them would be a better starting 2 than anyone we presently have. It wouldn’t even be such a stretch to imagine an all star 1 dropping to us in 2015 or as an FA. We’ve seen very good PGs all over the league who come as surprises. We actually had one , and the chance to draft another two
      JR right now should join Andrea and Amar’e on the bench. He’s hurting the team. The FO may have ruined Shumpert for good. These guys have the physical skills to be part of the solution but right now are part of the problem. Either way, one more facilitator who has the ability to make teams pay for going under screens would be a great and not impossible get.

    5. Cock Jowles, #1 Nostradumbass

      danvt,

      You’ve been blindly optimistic for awhile now. Care to try a new approach?

      (P.S. Raymond Felton is not a capable PG.)

    6. danvt

      3. Make a deal that makes us better in the future. I love Carmelo, but we gave up so much for him that the deal was actually a net minus. Maybe we can balance the scales and make a deal for some prospects and 1st round picks and actually get the better of it for a change. Boy, I watched Phoenix the other night and that kid Dragic looked so good. Maybe him plus a first rounder and expiring deals for Carmelo? Of course once you trade Carmelo your throwing off all of my other variables but the point is, maybe the rebuild isn’t so far in the future or out of the question. Maybe if we find good deals and landing spots for Anthony, Chandler (JR?, Amar’e?, Andrea?), we could have a team to love again. Kinda like what we looked like in the first half of 11-12 before Dolan stepped in to produce “No No Nannette”.

    7. danvt

      danvt,

      You’ve been blindly optimistic for awhile now. Care to try a new approach?

      (P.S. Raymond Felton is not a capable PG.)

      I have a lot of respect for you, Jowles. You obviously know your shit. How you express yourself and treat other posters, I’ve had my say on. I guess, all I’m trying to do here is make the case that it’s not necessarily as dire as it seems. Felton frustrates me, certainly, but I think he’s “capable” of being in an NBA rotation in some form. I don’t think that point makes me “blindly” optimistic. Maybe “near sightedly” optimistic. Also, my point in the paragraph is that we need a lead guard, a la your boy Lawson. So, you’re poking me for something tangential in an instance where not only do I agree with your POV but it has, in fact influenced mine. Now, buzz off.

    8. danvt

      4. So, in short, we can win a little better, now and in the future. We just need some two way players. If Carmelo, Tyson, and a PG who know’s how to run a P&R are out there, these players don’t need to make 11 million dollars. They just need to box someone the fuck out and hit an open shot. Maybe, if the FO started thinking about roles on the team rather than ex all star status and stopped giving away assets for more such, the future might be sooner than we think.

    9. JK47

      There is nothing short of a complete tear-down and a long, patient rebuild that is going to change things for the Knicks. Going for the “three stars” model when one of the three stars is not LeBron James is a proven loser of a model. And since the complete tear-down and rebuild is never going to happen, it really makes one question whether it is worth even bothering to follow the team anymore.

      An aging Carmelo Anthony, an aging Tyson Chandler and absolutely fuck-all else is NOT enough to build around. We’ve all seen the lousy results of ill-considered “win-now” franchise building– we’ve seen it over and over again. And we’ll be seeing it some more in the coming years, and then in the years beyond that. And then the years beyond that.

    10. danvt

      And we’ll be seeing it some more in the coming years, and then in the years beyond that. And then the years beyond that.

      The smart money is on this.

      But I think a New York Yankees fan in the early 90′s was saying the same thing. Steinbrenner had wrecked the team and been kicked out of baseball. (Too bad Dolan hadn’t suffered the same fate in the Anucha Brown Saunders case.) All big George did once he got back was learn to trust Stick Michael. That’s all it took.

      We do have picks in 2015 and 2017. We do have cap space coming around that time. Tyson and Melo are good right now. This doesn’t have to continue to be a catastrophe. For now, coach has to get guys on the bench who no longer deserve PT. For the future, don’t trade the picks.

    11. kronicfatigue

      But the Yankees can just open a wallet and decide to be good. Can’t do that in the NBA. Likewise, the Knicks have ALREADY mortgaged the future by giving away draft picks.

      with 81 home games, baseball teams can a quicker, more direct revenue increase when they increase their talent. In the NBA, you only need to pretend to be good to sell tickets. Take a look at last year’s Knicks. They were nowhere near championship level, but the hype machine made tickets a premium.

      There’s no incentive for the Knicks to go all-in like the Yankees. You’ll keep watching regardless

    12. dtrickey

      Happy New year everyone! I haven’t been on in a little while since around Christmas so haven’t really been keeping upon what’s going down in the KB universe. To be honest I spent most of New Years Day (which was yesterday for us) completely broken. Staying out until 6am seemed a lot easier at University!

      It’s been an interesting time to be around family, as they have been witness to watching my complete meltdown over the last three games! When it’s all said and done though I really do feel that the last 3 games we’ve lost by a difference of Carmelo Anthony (we may not have beaten OKC with him, but I think it would have been a lot more competitive).

      Also really like that we have signed Tyler. I had a feeling, and I think it was expressed on this board by other posters that the team would sign him once he had recovered. Now we’ll see if he gets some burn. With Metta out it would be nice to get him in.

      You’ve been blindly optimistic for awhile now. Care to try a new approach?

      I don’t think there is anything wrong with staying optimistic/positive. Yes this year has been an incredible disappointment, yes I have been frustrated, I may have also even called them the “New York Hopeless Bastards” the other day when a friend asked me how they were going. However if you are gonna be with the team when they win, you gotta be there when they lose. I do realise that’s a difficult proposition for some to swallow given the last decade and a bit, but I’ll stand by it. I still want to see this team do well, and I still think we can have some moderate success so I’m going to also try and stay optimistic, otherwise I may as well just throw in the towel and not bother watching.

    13. Brian Cronin

      Sooo…it is not a good sign that Toronto beat Chicago and is hanging tough with Indiana through three and has already played the toughest schedule in the Eastern Conference and yet is 14-15, right?

    14. mokers

      Yeah, a little optimism between games isn’t going to hurt anybody. PLenty of times to curse the team for underperforming when they are actually playing games.

    15. knickster

      Happy New Year to everyone!

      I think a total rebuild (nothing else will do) does not have to be very painful or prolonged. My feeling is that most fans – including me – just want a competitive team, a likeable team. A couple of years of young players developing, of a team improving under the care of a competent coach is fully attainable *IF* the process begins now. We can use Chandler and Melo as a means of getting some draft picks/young promising players and also as a means of sending some of the baggage away. It requires an admission of wrongdoing on the FO’s part, so I realize there is very little chance of this ever happening. But that’s the path so salvation…

    16. Robtachi

      If the Knicks pulled the trigger on an Okafor/Markief Morris/1st Round picks (more than one, since they’re all protected or not super-valuable) for Melo, I think I’d immediately go buy season tickets.

    17. Brian Cronin

      Raptors handedly defeat the Pacers. Raptors now 15-15 and 6 games up on the Knicks, despite having played the hardest schedule in the Eastern Conference so far. That’s really not a good sign at all.

    18. JK47

      Raptors handedly defeat the Pacers. Raptors now 15-15 and 6 games up on the Knicks, despite having played the hardest schedule in the Eastern Conference so far. That’s really not a good sign at all.

      Are people still harboring the notion that the Knicks are somehow gonna rally and win the division and make some sort of noise in the playoffs? It’s January and the Knicks have 9 wins. They’re 26th in the league in defense and are showing no signs of improving. The Raptors are a flat-out better team, period. They’re a top 10 defense and they’re 12th in the league in SRS, probably higher after tonight’s win.

    19. BigBlueAL

      Knicks wont be able to win the division probably but my God the 6th-8th seeds in the East are all 5 games under .500!!

    20. er

      6 seed is the goal. If they win the first round indy will be a better matchup than miami in the second round

    21. Nick C.

      So sad, was it last year’s moves or this year’s that were made under the guise of “win now”? Now scrapping for a bottom playoff seed in a putrid conference is the goal.

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