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Monday, November 24, 2014

Knicks Morning News (2013.11.06)

  • [New York Post] Stoudemire, Martin fail to pick up the slack (Wed, 06 Nov 2013 00:57:43 -0500)
    And this is why nothing, beyond Commandments, ever is etched in stone. Coach Mike Woodson explained that in the Knicks' developing platoon system, Kenyon Martin would sit and Amar'e Stoudemire…

  • [New York Post] Still early, but Knicks are a mess (Wed, 06 Nov 2013 00:37:40 -0500)
    It is the fourth game of the season, four out of 82, and logic insists — logic demands — that it is too early to pass judgment on the Knicks,…

  • [New York Daily News] Sit-ty Dancers: Dolan shuts out Knicks cheerleaders (Wed, 06 Nov 2013 06:37:11 GMT)
    During the Knicks’ loss to the Bobcats, the Dancers who normally perform several times a game and during timeouts did not perform one single routine and were nowhere to be found at halftime.    

  • [New York Daily News] Cat Nap: Knicks sleep through loss to Bobcats, Chandler leaves injured (Wed, 06 Nov 2013 06:34:26 GMT)
    Mike Woodson has been determined to make his “big lineup” work for the Knicks, sticking with that alignment for the third straight game – and loss – Wednesday night against Charlotte at the Garden. But any big vs. small debate quickly will be rendered moot if All-Star center Tyson Chandler is sidelined for any substantial time.    

  • [New York Daily News] Knicks Insider: Amar’e and Kenyon both play – and struggle (Wed, 06 Nov 2013 06:27:34 GMT)
    Mike Woodson’s plan to preserve Amar’e Stoudemire and Kenyon Martin by alternating them in back-to-back games seems to be in jeopardy after Tyson Chandler left Tuesday’s game with a right leg injury.    

  • [New York Daily News] Lawrence: Knicks could be 7-feet under with Chandler injury (Wed, 06 Nov 2013 06:16:51 GMT)
    This might be a good time to close off the Chase Bridges at the Garden to prevent jumpers, starting with the Knicks’ owner himself. Jim Dolan has a whole lot more to worry about than his Knicks City Dancers after his team fell to 1-3 after a horrible night of defense and a 102-97 loss Tuesday to the lowly Charlotte Bobcats.    

  • [New York Times] The Coach Who Exploded (Wed, 06 Nov 2013 10:00:19 GMT)
    Since Mike Rice’s promising career was derailed by the highlight reel from hell, there’s nothing he won’t do to prove he can get his competitive fire under control.    

  • [New York Times] Walker and Bobcats Hold Off Knicks (Wed, 06 Nov 2013 06:08:08 GMT)
    Kemba Walker just loves playing at Madison Square Garden.    

  • [New York Times] Horford Leads Hawks Over Kings 105-100 (Wed, 06 Nov 2013 06:02:24 GMT)
    Al Horford had 27 points and 10 rebounds, Paul Millsap had 25 points and 11 rebounds and the Atlanta Hawks held off the Sacramento Kings for a 105-100 victory on Tuesday night.    

  • [New York Times] Harden and Howard Lift Rockets Over Blazers (Wed, 06 Nov 2013 05:47:29 GMT)
    James Harden scored 33 points, Dwight Howard added 29 points and 13 rebounds, and the Houston Rockets beat the Portland Trail Blazers 116-101 on Tuesday night.    

  • [New York Times] Parker Leads Spurs Past Nuggets, 102-94 (Wed, 06 Nov 2013 04:44:19 GMT)
    Tony Parker scored 24 points, Tim Duncan had 17 and the San Antonio Spurs pulled away in the fourth quarter to beat the Denver Nuggets 102-94 on Tuesday night.    

  • [New York Times] Nets 104, Jazz 88: Nets’ Pride Restored as Consistency Is Rediscovered (Wed, 06 Nov 2013 04:32:36 GMT)
    After a shaky start, the Nets got back on track by dismantling the Jazz at Barclays Center with six Nets players finishing with double figures in points, led by Brook Lopez’s 27 points.    

  • [New York Times] N.B.A. Roundup: In Win, James and Heat Achieve Milestone in Style (Wed, 06 Nov 2013 04:23:36 GMT)
    With a first-quarter dunk, LeBron James became the fifth N.B.A. player to score 10 or more points in 500 consecutive games.    

  • [New York Times] Ellis Has 30 Points as Mavs Rout Lakers 123-104 (Wed, 06 Nov 2013 04:08:34 GMT)
    Monta Ellis had 30 points and nine assists, Dirk Nowitzki was one of seven Dallas players in double figures with 11points and the Mavericks beat the Los Angeles Lakers 123-104 Tuesday night.    

  • [New York Times] Bobcats 102, Knicks 97: When Injury Takes Chandler Out, the Knicks Come Undone (Wed, 06 Nov 2013 04:08:10 GMT)
    The Knicks lost the game and their starting center Tuesday when Tyson Chandler left after injuring his right leg in the first quarter against the Bobcats.    

  • [New York Times] James Scores 35 as Heat Beat Raptors 104-95 (Wed, 06 Nov 2013 03:56:30 GMT)
    LeBron James reached his latest milestone in signature style.    

  • [New York Times] Bledsoe and Green Lead Suns Over Pelicans (Wed, 06 Nov 2013 03:47:22 GMT)
    Eric Bledsoe had 25 points, Gerald Green tied a career high with six 3-pointers and the Phoenix Suns rallied to beat the New Orleans Pelicans 104-98 on Tuesday night.    

  • [New York Times] Lopez Leads Nets in 104-88 Win Over Jazz (Wed, 06 Nov 2013 03:32:51 GMT)
    Brook Lopez scored a game-high 27 points, Deron Williams had 10 points and eight assists and the Brooklyn Nets ended their four-game losing streak to the Utah Jazz with a 104-88 victory Tuesday night.    

  • [New York Times] Pacers Still Unbeaten After Beating Pistons 99-91 (Wed, 06 Nov 2013 03:20:56 GMT)
    Paul George scored 31 points, and the Indiana Pacers remained the NBA’s only unbeaten team with a 99-91 victory over the Detroit Pistons on Tuesday night.    

  • [New York Times] Sports Briefing | Pro Basketball: Bosh Misses Heat’s Game After Birth of Daughter (Wed, 06 Nov 2013 01:15:12 GMT)
    Chris Bosh was unavailable for the Miami Heat’s game in Toronto against the Raptors after the birth of his daughter, Dylan Skye Bosh.    

  • 20 comments on “Knicks Morning News (2013.11.06)

    1. MarcusRinaldi

      Can we trade Amare, Bargnani, and MWP for Danilo Gallinari, Wilson Chandler, and Timofey Mosgov? Please?? Wow do I miss those youth from the old roster. In the words of Goose from Top Gun, “I feel the need, the need for speed”. We just looked slow as can be last night. If you’re a slow team, you need to be fundamental and have good ball movement, and which of those do we have? Ding Ding Ding, none right now. We need MWP to move the ball, we need Melo and Bargs to move the ball. Also Poor Copeland is at the end of the bench on Indiana right now. What I would give to have him back. No really, like Amare, Bargs, Hardaway Jr., half pipe and the rest of his family for Cope. Waiting to see if this ship doesn’t right itself, if we then go after Stan Van Gundy. I think George Karl is unlikely due to his and Melo’s issues, but maybe Adrian Dantely?? This is way to early to speculate, but the last three games have just looked so poor that it’s hard not to overreact. Mr.Pipe has his chance to be a hero upon his return… what a scary place we’re at right now

    2. DRed

      “During the Knicks’ loss to the Bobcats, the Dancers who normally perform several times a game and during timeouts did not perform one single routine and were nowhere to be found at halftime.”

      Seriously, Jimmy, what the fuck? This has sexual harassment scandal part II written all over it.

    3. er

      Mr.Pipe has his chance to be a hero upon his return… what a scary place we’re at right now

      Its not really the role of hero its just going to help put people where they are supposed to be. For instance instead of Ray bricking 3 after 3 last night Earl would have had a shot. Less Timmy and more rest for Melo. Its really a domino effect

    4. er

      Like i said yesterday the Knicks will go 2-1 this week. Just that they will beat Spurs and lose to Bobcats because thats what the knicks do smfh

    5. JoMo

      Is it too wishful of my thinking to hope that Aldrich will have some kind of spiritual rebirth that will translate into the blossoming of the next great Knicks center under the tutelage of a hobbled coach Chandler?

      Tyler certainly won’t be the answer here.

      Seriously, what options are left for the interior? Is it too much of a hyperbole to call Chandler’s injury nothing short of catastrophic?

    6. DRed

      Think of the upside. Bargs/Stat/Melo in the frontcourt together has a chance to be something really special. Maybe not special in a good way, but still special.

    7. ephus

      I guessed last night it was the fibula, not the knee. I hoped it was a bone bruise. A break is worse.

      37. ephus
      November 5, 2013 at 8:12 pm
      As a lawyer who did not stay at a Holiday Inn last night, my medical diagnosis is that Tyson has a bone bruise in his right fibula, not a joint problem. At least, that is what I hope.

      This is much better news than ligament damage. The fibula is the non-weight bearing bone in the lower leg, so he should be 100% after he sits out the time for the bone to knit back together.

    8. ephus

      I hope that Woodson does not ask Kenyon Martin to soak up 30 minutes per night in Tyson’s absence. He made that mistake last season, leaning hard on Jason Kidd while Felton was out with a broken hand. I think (but can never know) that was part of the reason that Kidd had nothing left in the tank for the playoffs.

      We may see a lot of Bargnani at the 5. I have very low expectations.

    9. JK47

      Cole Aldrich has played 700 minutes in the NBA. In those 700 minutes he has put up a .569 TS%, has made 71% of his free throws and has grabbed 10.4 rebounds per 36 minutes.

      You know, I’m just a fan. I’m not a professional basketball coach or a professional GM. There are many posters here at KB who have a much finer understanding of the subtle points of NBA strategy, and who follow the game more closely than I do. There are plenty of things I don’t know about the game. But I will tell you one thing. I KNOW SURE AS HELL THAT IT’S A STUPID IDEA TO HAVE ANDREA BARGNANI PLAY CENTER INSTEAD OF GIVING COLE ALDRICH A CHANCE. One guy is 100% to be execrably awful, and the other guy has more than a 1% chance of being better than execrably awful.

      This is going to get very ugly very fast, as the losses are certain to pile up quickly. Guitar Jimmy is already in mid-80’s Steinbrenner mode, and we’re at game 4. All you Melo fans, enjoy watching him now, because his tenure as a Knick does not have much time left in it.

    10. Frank

      I hope that Woodson does not ask Kenyon Martin to soak up 30 minutes per night in Tyson’s absence. He made that mistake last season, leaning hard on Jason Kidd while Felton was out with a broken hand. I think (but can never know) that was part of the reason that Kidd had nothing left in the tank for the playoffs.

      We may see a lot of Bargnani at the 5. I have very low expectations.

      I think we might see Kenyon playing 25 minutes/game while Tyson is out, then when Tyson and/or Jeremy Tyler are available again, they’ll put Kenyon back into deep bubble-wrap to let him rest up. I’d be all good with that.

      Re: Amare – he looks suspiciously like he did at the beginning of 2011-12 – the season after the playoff back injury. He bulked up, looked slow in addition to completely rusty/out-of-sync, and was painfully horrible. Then he lost a bunch of that extra weight, and was pretty darn good the rest of that season post-ASB. Same thing as last year when he came back in January after the 1st knee operation. Was just awful for about 2-3 weeks, then picked it up. One can only hope for a similar trajectory this year.

      I’m not sure that real game action is the place for him to get it back together now, though. If it were even remotely feasible, I’d send him to the D-League to get his confidence and timing back. Like a baseball rehab assignment. Didn’t OKC or Houston or one of those (well-run) teams do that with someone established last year? Look, if Derek Jeter can go play a rehab week in double-A, Amare can go to the D-League for a week.

    11. DRed

      Well, the draft is going to be rich in talent this year, so maybe we’ll get lucky and get someone valuable with our picks. Oh wait. . .

    12. Frank

      Well, looks like the Spurs sent both Gary Neal and Kawhi Leonard to the d-league for rehab. Clips sent Eric Bledsoe last year. Mavs sent Lamar Odom. And wouldn’t you know it — Amare was actually sent in December of 2012 to Erie also!

    13. Shad0wF0x

      I just didn’t understand why after every single pick that Amar’e gave, he immediately started to roll to the basket. Why can’t he just catch the ball 15-ft from the basket and shoot it?

    14. thenamestsam

      I know it’s 100% doom and gloom time, but didn’t essentially this team reel off almost a 10 game winning streak without Tyson late last season? I know we had Cope then, but it’s not impossible that this will help the team locate their identity and maybe also help them bond together a little bit. I don’t think this makes it a foregone conclusion that we’re headed to the lottery or anything like that.

    15. DRed

      Yeah, it’s still early days. Melo can obviously shoot better than he has so far, and if he had we’d have probably 2 more wins. And that’s just one example. The big issue is that we’re probably looking at Bargnani getting a ton of minutes at center right now, and that’s going to be terrible. The step down from Tyson to Andrea is a huge one.

    16. er

      I know it’s 100% doom and gloom time, but didn’t essentially this team reel off almost a 10 game winning streak without Tyson late last season? I know we had Cope then, but it’s not impossible that this will help the team locate their identity and maybe also help them bond together a little bit. I don’t think this makes it a foregone conclusion that we’re headed to the lottery or anything like that.

      Shhhhh dont ruin the mood

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