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Friday, August 1, 2014

Knicks Ink Former Spur Mason

Berman reported yesterday that the Knicks signed former San Antonio Spurs guard Roger Mason.

Mason is a three-point chucker specialist who has been a bit erratic throughout his career. His solid career mark of 38.1% has been characterized by extreme highs and lows. He had a stellar run from 2007-2009 when he shot 39.8% and 42.1% respectively, taking a 10th in the league 166 attempts in 2008-2009 for San Antonio. That stellar run was sandwiched between two atrocious seasons, including a 32.1% brickathon in Washington on an unbelievable 7.5 attempts per 36* and a crappy 33.3% last season in San Antonio, causing Pop to staple him to the bench.

*There were 4 guys on that team taking over 4 3pas per 36. Wow.

I like this signing a less than a potential Brown signing. I like guys who bring a particular skill to the table at the vet’s minimum, but Mason may or may not bring said skill. Mike and I disagreed a bit on the wisdom of chasing Brown, but on this one I’ll cede to his logic. I’d have preferred a D-Leaguer like Morris Almond (mostly so I could say MO NUTS!!! all the time).

66 comments on “Knicks Ink Former Spur Mason

  1. Frank

    actually Rashard Lewis led the league in attempts and makes (220 for 554 – 39.4%) in 2008-09. Maybe Mason led the Spurs in makes with 166 out of 394 attempts.

    I’m ok with this signing. One year, no real risk unless he takes significant time away from DWTDD. Can’t have enough shooters. I’m not so worried about his 3P% last year – he’s 38% on his career with >1100 attempts and is only 30 years old so I think I can trust that he’s a good 3 point shooter. Phil Weber said he played hurt a lot of last year (looks like he had hamstring issues for most of the season) so maybe that’s why his shooting percentages dropped across the board. And apparently he’s an OK defender.

    Anyone know what happened to him between 04-06? Basketball-reference has nothing on him during those years.

  2. chrisk06811

    I for one am happy we have Anthony Mason back. That dude scares the shit out of people.

    On a serious note, when are we signing Earl Barron?

  3. Ben R

    Mason injuried his hand in February and that is when his shooting went into the toliet. Mason had to wear a brace on his hand the whole second half of the season.

    October-January:
    39.2% 3pt% – 54.3% TS%
    February-April:
    25.2% 3pt% – 40.6% TS%

    He had surgery in May to repair the damaged ligament so he should be back to his pre-injury form next season. The player we should get next season should be the player from the first half of last season and the two prior seasons, not the player from the end of last season.

    I think it is a solid signing, much better than Shannon Brown, because he is a veteran role player who can hit the open three and play solid defense. As for 04-06 Mason was playing in Europe.

    My only worry now is that we have 12 rotation quality players on our team:
    Guards: Felton, Douglas, Walker, Mason, Azubuike
    Forwards: Amare, Gallo, Randolph, Chandler, Fields
    Centers: Turiaf, Mozgov

    Extra bodies are good but who falls out of the rotation? I am guessing Fields, but who else? Azubuike if he is still injuried, but if healthy he is our best 2 guard, so who then? Will Mason accept being on the edge of the rotation or does this signing squeeze out Walker?

  4. Robert Silverman

    Frank – He was playing overseas from ’04-’06, in Israel and elsewhere.

    I like the Mason signing too, more than I would have inking Shannon Brown. He’s another shooter and a reasonable defender if memory serves. I actually remember him being a very nice role player on the ’02 Illinois team that won the NCAA’s (Deron Williams’ team). Mainly because it was so much fun to copy how Gus Johnson would slowly enunciate every syllable of his full name whenever he made a play on the court.

    RAH-jah…MAY-son…JEWN-ya!!

    (or something like that)

  5. kburt8

    But I think Roger Mason is a good pickup, especially at this price. We have accumulated a lot of solid players that are tradeable assets.

  6. Brian Cronin

    In that same article you linked to, Kevin (which was written by the Associated Press), check out what they wrote:

    Thomas, a Hall of Famer with the Detroit Pistons, had a dismal run as team president from December 2003-April 2008, with the Knicks missing the playoffs every year despite often having the league’s highest payroll. He was also the coach the final two seasons, getting dismissed after a 23-59 season in 2007-08.

    They made the playoffs his first year as team president! The case against Isiah is already pretty darn solid, you don’t have to start making up facts to knock the guy.

  7. yehudi3000

    gallo-3,300,000
    chandleer-2,130,000
    randolph-1,965,000
    mason-1,400,000
    douglas-1,070,000
    walker-850,000
    i think all those contracts are exellent deals. it’s just a little wierd that mozgov got a 3 mil contract when u look at those guys.
    with those players, stats, melo i think paul have a good reason to come too.

  8. Sandy

    I have not spoken in a while, but Isaiah’s rehiring truly saddens me. Really hurts. I am going to reserve judgement because maybe there is some clever cost savings (is Isaiah still technically under contract?). Sad day.

  9. David Crockett

    Robert Silverman: I actually remember him being a very nice role player on the ’02 Illinois team that won the NCAA’s (Deron Williams’ team).

    Mason was a star at Virginia.

  10. David Crockett

    Frank: actually Rashard Lewis led the league in attempts and makes (220 for 554 – 39.4%) in 2008-09.

    Thanks. Fixed.

  11. David Crockett

    kburt8: Isiah’s back.Optimisim tempered.http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/news/story?id=5442858The Knicks announced Thomas’ role Friday, saying he would “assist the team’s senior management in various capacities, including player recruitment.”  

    I’m not sure if he was ever not here. I thought he always remained on the team’s payroll as a consultant, given that his contract wasn’t up. I’m not sure what this press release means technically, and since none of the press accounts I have read so far address that aspect of it I don’t understand why the Knicks did a release.

  12. BigBlueAL

    Exactly David, this is no different than what he has been doing the past couple of years except it is “official” now. Of course Isola is having a field day with this predicting Isiah will be president/GM by next season.

    Maybe Im too naive but I dont see the big deal about this at all. I think the only reason it is now put out there is because his original contract was over. Remember he was never fired just re-assigned and he had what 2 years left on his deal no??

  13. David Crockett

    Robert Silverman:
    Right! Damn – who was I thinking of on the U of I team?  

    I was trying to think of who that might have been. Roger Powell (not sure if he was a Jr.) perhaps? He was the center.

  14. DRed

    It’s amazing how indifferent that asshole Jimmy Dolan is to the feelings of the fans. I don’t think there’s a single Knicks fan anywhere who wants Isiah to have anything to do with the franchise.

  15. BigBlueAL

    Sad part about it DRed is that this isnt surprising at all unfortunately. The Knicks are finally getting some praise and good press in regards to their moves this off-season and their outlook for the future by many pretty smart basketball analysts yet now all everybody in the media is talking about is Isiah again (just saw PTI talk about it).

  16. Thomas B.

    The second best person named Thomas to be associated with the Knicks is back!! Ha ha we are going right to the top…of the draft lottery.

  17. Z

    BigBlueAL: The Knicks are finally getting some praise and good press in regards to their moves this off-season and their outlook for the future by many pretty smart basketball analysts yet now all everybody in the media is talking about is Isiah again…   

    Honestly, it’s not all anyone is talking about. The first Friday afternoon in August is where all news stories go to die. Any media savvy organization knows when to release a statement they don’t want anybody to talk about. BBA in #14 nailed it.

  18. The Honorable Cock Jowles

    I know a guy who was fired from his job schlepping chicken wings because he gave an employee discount on a combo meal to a friend within earshot of the owner.

    How, again, is Isiah still employed by MSG, Inc.?

  19. BigBlueAL

    Z, the Isiah news was a topic on PTI. It was all over ESPN.com too.

    Its not what everybody is talking obviously but it certainly didnt go unnoticed today by the national media. Not to mention locally where of course Isola and Berman have had a field day with this news on Twitter.

  20. Loathing

    I’m not sure what this press release means technically, and since none of the press accounts I have read so far address that aspect of it I don’t understand why the Knicks did a release.

    To keep the books balanced and honest.

    Ha ha we are going right to the top…of the draft lottery.

    No, Houston is.

  21. massive

    I would be upset about this, but he’s just a consultant, at least for now anyway. We’re only paying him for an opinion, which probably won’t be a huge determining factor seeing that Donnie Walsh’s opinion is the only one that matters.

  22. Z

    BigBlueAL: Z, the Isiah news was a topic on PTI.It was all over ESPN.com too.Its not what everybody is talking obviously but it certainly didnt go unnoticed today by the national media.Not to mention locally where of course Isola and Berman have had a field day with this news on Twitter.  

    Yeah, but no one is watching PTI or reading ESPN except nerds like us. And we don’t actually care what they say because we get all of our news from Davey Crockett.

    Seriously, friday afternoon is when bad news is released. Why? Because no one reads the saturday paper.

    Summer TV shows are on hiatus. Why? Because people don’t watch TV in the summer. Their schedules are too erratic. Especially the schedules of people who report news all day and take their vacation the first two weeks of august.

    PTI had its lowest rated show of the year today. Of course the media would make a story out of Isiah and the Knicks. But it’s the guys so low on the media totem-pole that they have to actually come into work on a friday evening in early august. Isola, Berman, and anybody else with a real platform is writing their piece from a hammock in New Hampshire or twittering from a trout stream in wyoming. The story has no legs.

    Walsh is trying to help Isiah land on his feet. They go back a long way. he hired him to coach the Pacers remember. MSG had today circled on their calendar as the day they were going to release the news. Come monday, it’ll be back to NFL training camp news 24-7.

  23. KnickfaninNJ

    DRed

    I am a Knick and happy Isiah is consulting. I just don’t understand the hate for Isiah. Larry Bird has done a dismal job in Indiana, but he didn’t get anywhere near the hate Isiah did. The Knick’s weren’t the worst team in the league in any of the Isiah years but he’s apparently still ” the worst GM ever”. He brought in a lot young talent, but he had no head for the finances, salary cap ramifications and such. Now the Knicks have Walsh, who is outstanding at the business stuff and Isiah to help evaluate talent and maybe for recruiting. What’s wrong with that? Do you know that FIU, the college for which Isiah coaches, got the 7th ranked recruiting class nationally in the country for this year? That was Isiah’s first recruiting class. I mean, it’s a college in an unknown conference, with a terrible record (even before Isiah) and it beat out many, many much better known basketball schools in recruiting. That’s outstanding. That would be very nice for the Knicks. So I am hopeful for the combination.

  24. Z-man

    Yeah, DRed, don’t exaggerte, there IS a single Knicks fan that wants Isiah back.

    “I just don’t understand the hate for Isiah. Larry Bird has done a dismal job in Indiana, but he didn’t get anywhere near the hate Isiah did. The Knick’s weren’t the worst team in the league in any of the Isiah years but he’s apparently still ” the worst GM ever”. He brought in a lot young talent, but he had no head for the finances, salary cap ramifications and such.”

    A man’s gotta know his limitations. Isiah was not hired as a consultant, but as a GM. The job title specifically (and perhaps most importantly) calls for expertise in salary cap ramifications and finances. It is widely accepted that he was among the worst GMs in Knicks history and perhaps in league history. He get tons of credit for Lee and Nate, but he also drafted Channing Frye ahead of Andrew Bynum and Renaldo Balkman ahead of Rajon Rondo. He made one franchise-crippling trade after via lost picks and bad contracts, embarrassed the franchise with his sexual-harassment situation, and turned the Knicks into a laughing stock. He evaluated the talents of Eddy Curry, Steph, Jamal, Zach, Q, Jeffries, Jerome James, need I go on?

    If Larry Bird, or anyone else, had done the same job here in NY, do you think they would have been treated any differently?

    I know Dolan is ultimately responsible, but that doesn’t absolve Isiah from the train wreck he converted this once (and now again, thanks to DW) proud franchise.

  25. Thomas B.

    Lets all relax a bit. Consultant is a far cry from President and GM. It’s not like every move was bad. He had a few good drafts. Read Stumbling on Wins for some insight on Isiah.

  26. AY

    I always thought that if a team could have Isiah help draft late 1st rounders (David Lee, Nate Robinson, Wilson Chandler) or 2nd rounders (Trevor Ariza) and stay away from everything else, he could be helpful. And hey, since we have Houston’s pick this year, that’s exactly what we’ll have. Though I liked Donnie’s picks this year anyway.

    (I still keep track of Jordan Hill, who I think will never be any good.)

    I’m not too worried about it. Dolan’s just giving Isiah enough of a platform so he can get another gig in the NBA down the road.

    Our rotation is tough to figure out. I doubt Mozgov gets anything more than spot duty though. Same with Fields, though I’d love it if we played him. And one of the three guards is going to lose out (Mason, Azubuike, Walker). Maybe Felton, Azubuike, Gallo, Amare, Turiaf with Douglas, Walker, Chandler, and Randolph off the bench. That’s a 9-man rotation.

    On another note, Charley Rosen listed Felton as underrated:

    http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/lists/NBA-2010-All-Underrated-Team#sport=NBA&photo=11600048

    Good thing, because we really need him to play well to make the whole thing work.

  27. The Honorable Cock Jowles

    My question is: why should pay a high-profile someone millions of dollars to do what a low-profile statistician can do with an equal, if not better, success rate?

    Advanced metrics like PAWS/48 are clearly not perfect, but people like Dave Berri and Dean Oliver have been successful in determining with a relatively high success rate the future careers of college players.

    The Knicks have pumped money into talent evaluators for years, and this is an incomplete draft history:

    2009 1 8 Jordan Hill University of Arizona
    2008 1 6 Danilo Gallinari Armani Jeans Milano (Italy)
    2007 1 23 Wilson Chandler DePaul University
    2006 1 20 Renaldo Balkman University of South Carolina
    2006 1 29 Mardy Collins Temple University
    2005 1 8 Channing Frye University of Arizona
    2005 1 30 David Lee University of Florida
    2005 2 24 Dijon Thompson UCLA
    2004 2 14 Trevor Ariza UCLA
    2003 1 9 Michael Sweetney Georgetown
    2003 2 1 Maciej Lampe
    2003 2 10 Slavko Vraneš
    2002 1 7 Nenê BRA F-C Brazil
    2002 2 7 Miloš Vujani?
    2001 2 10 Michael Wright University of Arizona
    2001 2 14 Eric Chenowith University of Kansas
    2000 2 10 Lavor Postell St. John’s University
    2000 2 29 Pete Mickeal University of Cincinnati
    1999 1 15 Frédéric Weis
    1999 2 17 J.R. Koch University of Iowa
    1998 2 9 DeMarco Johnson UNC
    1998 2 15 Sean Marks University of California

    How many of these players made it? How many scouts do you think touted these players before the Knicks, a multimillion dollar operation, took decisive action? Don’t you think it’d be a whole lot cheaper to pick via a flawed advanced statistic instead of taking gambles on gut feelings and first-hand accounts? Hell, if we did, we’d have Ty Lawson and DeJuan Blair. What would be bad about that?

  28. massive

    @38,

    That’s something I didn’t see. The Pistons already have Ben Gordon, Rip, Tayshaun, and Austin Daye. I guess they brought him in for another ball-handler, but I can’t see him getting significant minutes in Detroit.

  29. latke

    that list of draft picks isn’t bad considering how few of them are first rounders. What’s sad is just how few of them are high first round picks… We’ve been below .500 since the 00-01 season, and we’ve only had 4 top 15 picks. That means we’ve swapped or traded 6 of them. If you’re curious, here are the picks picked at the spots that NY would have had if they hadn’t traded their picks:

    2010 #9 Gordon Hayward
    09 #8 Jordan Hill
    08 #6 Danilo Gallinari
    07 #9 Joakim Noah
    06 #2 LaMarcus Aldridge
    05 #8 Channing Frye
    04 #13 Sebastian Telfair
    03 #9 Mike Sweetney
    02 #7 Nene Hilario

    IMO not all that impressive.

  30. SeeWhyDee77

    I don’t wanna sound too high on inking Mason, but this is a great signing for us if he is healthy. He’s not the best defender or most explosive player, but he is rather sound in all facets of his game maybe except for reounding. What his signing means amongst other things is that it is now Andy Rautins who is expendable because they bring basically the same thing to the table, even tho Rautins may be a better defender. Fields stays in becuz he was a great find and he is more versatile than Rautins. So, does this mean Rautins will be used to make a trade package more attractive? One can only hope so, but given his summer league performance-other teams may be a bit wary of the kid. Mason doesn’t start or shouldn’t start whether he plays better offense than Azu or not. Azu’s D should land him the starting 2. We now have 3 SG’s who bring different things to the table and who should all get some run. I’m tellin u, this is a very versatile roster now. Every player can play more than 1 position fairly adequately except for Mosgov, and Curry:
    Stat: 4 & 5
    Randolph: All 3 frontcourt positions
    Rooster: 3 & 4
    Chandler: 2,3, & 4
    Azu: 2 & 3
    Felton: 1 & 2
    Douglas: Ditto
    Turiaf: 4 & 5
    Mason: 2 & 1
    Walker: 2 & 3
    Fields: 2 & 3
    and for shits & giggles, Rautins: 2 & 1
    Most of the guys I listed should get plenty of PT, and if Walsh squeezes in Barron-it gives us a legit 7 footer who plays hard and doesn’t bog down the offense. Isn’t this what D’Antoni wants? No this team isn’t a world beater by far, but it’s also nothin 2 scoff at. Hell, If Houston agrees to Curry and Rautins for JJ an cap fillers with short deals, I think coach would go crazy with so many options. He definitely won’t hafta worry about offense so much and with JJ he would field an even better defensive team if JJ and Randolph could hold up all season and Chandler focuses on defense more becuz we no longer need him to get 15 ppg. Oh the possibilities…

  31. SeeWhyDee77

    Re: Zeke…he screwed us cap wise by taking gambles that didn’t work. But he has his talents…and we could use those talents. The man has an eye for finding talent. Collins and Balkman aside, Zeke has a great track record with the draft. I can guarantee this..if he were calling the shots on draft night..there would be no Jordan Hill in NY. There’s also a possibility that he woulda parlayed the # 8 into more cap hell some how. But i’m pretty sure Lawson or Jennings would have been a Knick. That said..maybe adding him as a consultant is not so bad. Just don’t give him the checkbook lol

  32. MSA

    Even more surprising is the result of the poll in the first link.
    75% voted “Yes, He’s got a great basketball mind and can help”.
    WTF?
    Did Dolan spent the entire morning voting in this crap?

  33. TDM

    @41: “So, does this mean Rautins will be used to make a trade package more attractive?”

    Marc Berman: “A trade has been reached between the Knicks and Hornets sending Chris Paul to the Knicks. For the better part of three months it looked like a deal was impossible until Donnie Walsh relented to Dell Demp’s demand that Andy Rautins be involved in any deal.”

  34. KnickfaninNJ

    BigBlueAl,

    I agree with you. I think Thomas wasn’t any worse than some other NY GMs and have defended him here in the past, but these two recent articles make me very nervous. I had assumed he was hired as a consultant with the agreement of Donnie Walsh. He is a good drafter (though not a good trader) and I didn’t see how having him as a kind of scout could hurt. Walsh would still be in charge. But if he wasn’t hired by Walsh, and now Walsh is going to have to be looking over his shoulder all the time, it could be big trouble.

  35. SeeWhyDee77

    TDM:”Marc Berman: “A trade has been reached between the Knicks and Hornets sending Chris Paul to the Knicks.For the better part of three months it looked like a deal was impossible until Donnie Walsh relented to Dell Demp’s demand that Andy Rautins be involved in any deal.”  

    What what?? I’m behind a little bit..this has to be more utter baloney from Berman rite?

  36. SeeWhyDee77

    If it is indeed true that Jimmy D an Zeke are such big BFF’s that Dolan (who has a right to becuz he is owner) skipped Walsh in the process of giving Zeke an official title, then that bothers me a bit. Walsh seemed to be restoring order and sensibility within the organization..a sense of stability. I sleep better at night knowing Walsh is runnning the show personnell-wise lol. But seriously, the thought of Dolan skipping Walsh reeks of the same maddening inconsistency and instability that has plagued our Knicks since JVG split. I appreciate Zeke’s talents in a limited role, but u gotta run that by Donnie 1st. Walsh has practically saved Dolan from a sinking ship…one that took a decade to sink. Now Dolan seems to think he can really drive the ship, but goin “behind Walsh’s back” (if it’s true) is akin to slammin tha ship into an iceberg. Granted, I understand Zeke was still on the payroll and has been helping the team in an unofficial capacity since 08…but if Walsh is indeed upset then it must mean that he doesn’t want Zeke to have a sizeable role in his front office. Obviously Jimmy does. I’m not panickin, but it seems like Dolan really wants Zeke to be his GM. Zeke is good in a limited role-not as a full blown GM. And yes, I know-u can’t get reward without some type of risk. But the risks Isaiah takes as a trading GM are waaaaaaayyyy over the top. I’ve always thought Marbury was super talented..but I’ve also always known he was not the player to build around. He was a second or maybe 3rd option. Therefore u do not pin your hopes on him and accept a package includin a washed up overpaid Penny!!!! You do not let LB talk you into trading 4 a fading Francis when u already have Marbury, no matter how great of a coach LB may be. No way in hell! So that’s the only thing that bothers me about the alleged way the “hiring” went down. Otherwise, Zeke should prove to be a great asset to Walsh if used properly.

  37. Kikuchiyo

    There’s nothing curious, funny, or interesting about Isiah coming back. I was a big fan of Isiah as a player (raised in the Detroit area), and you can find me defending one or two of his draft picks with the Knicks (overall, not terrible) in previous threads.

    But if Isiah comes back in anything larger than a merely symbolic role (if, for example, he gives up the FIU job), I am OUT. Completely OUT. I will wander the earth, watching David Lee at G.S., looking into the Amar’e-less Suns, and rooting against the Heat. But I gotta turn in the Knicks fan membership card at that point.

    Isiah is not only the one responsible for the bad contracts and horrible records. He also established a profound losing atmosphere and he revealed (okay, we probably knew this) not just bad judgment but bad character. Just the sexual harassment trial in itself should make a re-hiring beyond the pale. And who can ever forget Isiah’s blank stare of defeat, his I’ll-take-the-money-but-I-sure-ain’t-gonna-do-anything-about-this-terrible-situation look after about the first quarter of every game he coached?

    To screw fans in this way, with a heaping helping of albatross sandwich, just as the team has emerged from the darkness as a young, athletic, fun-looking team (who hasn’t enjoyed Amar’e since he’s committed to NY?), is unconscionable. Dolan is really getting close to that line in the sand, and I’m afraid he’s willing to cross it.

    Wake me when this bad dream ends.

  38. danvt

    It’s kind of like Obama bringing W back as a consultant.

    Meanwhile, I don’t mind Isiah as an “ambassador of the game”. He can wow the young recruits at FSU and steer them to the Knicks, while he collects the rest of his Knicks $. He’s the basketball hero, who’s on our side even though his hall of fame career was spent killing us (though no worse than he did as GM).

  39. danvt

    Anyone ever hear of a guy named Patrick Ewing? Why doesn’t he come on as a defensive minded assistant coach (future head coach)? He’s been doing his homework with Dwight Howard and Stan Van Gundy. I’d be happy with that announcement.

  40. Robert Silverman

    danvt: It’s kind of like Obama bringing W back as a consultant.

    Yes. Except that W.’s approval rating w/the country is higher than Isiah’s is w/Knick fans (upsetting as that may be)

  41. jon abbey

    Ewing hasn’t even been able to teach Howard a competent post game, I’ll pass on him being an assistant or a head coach here, thanks.

    nice W line!

  42. massive

    In the midst of all this Isiah news, I have gained a deeper appreciation for Donnie Walsh’s work. I think this year’s bench unit is better than last year’s starting unit. Say we start Felton/Azu/Gallo/Stat/Turiaf, that’s a clear upgrade over last year’s Duhon/Chandler/Gallo/Jeffries/Lee squad. Is Douglas/Mason/Chandler/Randolph/Mozgov better than that team also? It’s a better shooting back court, a faster team, better defenders, and it’s about the same rebounding team. That said, I think our bench this year could beat last year’s starters. What Walsh has done since he took over is really astounding. I really hope Dolan and Isiah Thomas don’t ruin this organization. Why in the world would Isiah Thomas be considered for a GM job when we can have a guy like Mark Warkentien or Kevin Pritchard? The plan now seems so straight forward and obvious, its almost guaranteed to put us into title contention. I think our Knicks, under Walsh, are a step behind the Chicago Bulls and Hawks, and two behind the Heat and Magic. I really hope Isiah doesn’t have a chance to ruin it.

  43. Doug Chu

    I can’t believe how gay James Dolan is for Isiah. That or he got hit by a taxi last week and due to the resultant amnesia can’t remember the last few years.

  44. Frank

    Doug Chu: I can’t believe how gay James Dolan is for Isiah. That or he got hit by a taxi last week and due to the resultant amnesia can’t remember the last few years.  

    this whole thing makes me seriously wonder whether Isiah has something on Dolan. Even a crappy owner can’t be this retarded. In fact, it’s almost the only thing that makes any sense. Maybe Isiah has some serious dirt on Dolan.

  45. Loathing

    Which would explain the Isiah saying that “he would be running the team again” or whatever it was.

  46. kburt8

    Spoke to James Dolan earlier today about the whole situation. Here’s what he had to say:

    “Isiah is just as hot as Jan, but in a different way. He is not a woman. Just a cool, great looking, best friend.”

  47. StevenU

    Roger Mason Jr is a very nice acquisition. My first choice was Anthony Morrow, but this is an excellent fit. I gotta say…despite a LOT of misgivings about the Walsh/D’antoni team, I think it has been a very good offseason. Not sure how this degenerated into a Dolan/Isiah thread-but since it has I’ll go on record with the unpopular position that while Thomas was mediocre during his tenure here, that a) Dolan is the most responsible-by far-for the misery of the last decade, b) that Isiah inherited an awful situation and did in fact improve the roster, and c) while he makes a lovely scapegoat and NYers are always eager for them, Isiah was no worse than a C as prez. I am not saying he was great-or good-but he was just about average, NOT the miserable awful F that most people say he was.

  48. carlhil2

    DRed: It’s amazing how indifferent that asshole Jimmy Dolan is to the feelings of the fans.I don’t think there’s a single Knicks fan anywhere who wants Isiah to have anything to do with the franchise.  

    speak 4 yourself, he has done no worse than “great” Scott Layden.

  49. carlhil2

    whom no one EVER mentions in his role in the DEMISE of the Knicks. i have never heard so much vile for a person, all that he did was try to turn a bad team into a good team with players who were head cases, when is the onus going to be placed on the players? yes, he gave away LOTS of money, but did YOU think that the players he had bought in were going to stop balling? if you say “yes”, then YOU should be running the Knicks, and it is not like he took over a winning team, org., the Knick are not exactly the celts, bulls, lakers, etc, we have not done ZERO since the 70s, PEACE!

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