jon abbey:
that’s just my perception, no numbers to back it up. I’d be curious to see game by game breakdowns on points per possession with Felton and Prigioni running the offense (Kidd is almost never the primary PG), since averages can be misleading.

Yeah, me too…although I don’t think Prigioni actually has had enough minutes with the first team to tell much.

My impression is actually that when Kidd is the primary PG, the offense runs by far the best, but that he can’t stop opposing PG’s on D anymore which is why he’s better at the 2, because they aren’t as fast.

Prigioni goes to the opposite extreme when running the team, never shooting unless he absolutely has to, and that generally is even less effective for the team than Felton’s gunner approach.

What makes you think that? I think the jury is definitely out on whether Prig’s shooting to little is better that Felton’s chucking or not. I’d like to see him get some more of Felton’s minutes. and we’d see.

Either way, the Knicks have 3 competent but flawed PG’s in one way or another. The turnover stat thing seems great, but bad shots really are turnovers

and it’s easy to say that Felton should shoot less, but there aren’t a lot of alternatives with some of the lineups he’s been playing with, especially when Kidd’s shot seems to have totally deserted him. FWIW, he hit two big shots down the stretch against MIN, no one besides Melo and him scored in the 4th quarter. Prigioni goes to the opposite extreme when running the team, never shooting unless he absolutely has to, and that generally is even less effective for the team than Felton’s gunner approach.

Instead of comparing Felton to Novak or Brewer, compare him to Westbrook and Irving–since those are the only 2 PGs in the league who shoot more than Felton. I don’t really care that he’s a good deal at $3 million/year because he can walk and chew gum at the same time. He sucks at shooting and needs to either knock ‘em down or knock it off.

IMO, what it comes down to is Felton has an ability to get himself open with his superior ball handling, but he cannot convert those open looks well enough to be relied upon. Nobody but Felton can shoot his open looks for him. Tyson Chandler is a good enough P&R finisher that defenses must respect it and leave Felton wide open. Does that not count as shot creation? The same way Melo creates unbalanced defenses and open looks for his teammates, Chandler creates open looks for Felton in the P&R. The same way Melo commands his defender to stay at home and not help on penetration, Novak and Kidd do the same by just being behind the three point line. In other words, the defense allows Felton (and Brewer) to shoot open looks because his teammates are good enough offensive players that they must stay at home or double team them. Felton has to be able to convert open mid-range looks. He also needs to be able to stay in front of his defender. That kills us defensively.

Brewer does need to be removed from the rotation since he can’t really do much. He needs to be cutting and defending like he’s a Bull and shooting like it’s November again.

jon abbey:
amen, my brutha, except you were looking for ‘boggles’ instead of ‘baffles’ at the start there. but yeah, a lot of silly overhating of Felton the last few weeks IMO.

Haha I saw that after I sent it in and honestly couldn’t tell wtf I was trying to write