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Sunday, October 26, 2014

Knicks 92, Pacers 86

Indiana Pacers 86 Final
Recap | Box Score
92 New York Knicks
Amar’e Stoudemire, PF 29 MIN | 8-15 FG | 5-6 FT | 4 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 21 PTS | +8

Yeah, STAT’s gotten better on defense. Hey, look! A flying pig! We still saw a sequence or two where he loses track of dribble penetration and does that “I’M STICKING WITH MY MAN SO THAT’S GOOD, RIGHT YOU GUYS? CAN’T BLAME ME, BECAUSE YOU LIKE TOLD ME TO GUARD THIS GUY AND I’M TOTALLY DOING THAT, SEE?” thing, but he’s definitely boxing out better and he’s feeling good enough about his please-don’t-look-at-those-full-color-photos-in-the-medical-textbook-because-you’ll-wince/recoil/shudder knees that he’s ready to uncoil and block the occasional shot. And I love that he’s confidently taking pick and pop jumpers, either from Felton or after the defense collapses on Melo. In addition to being all spry and vim and vigor-ish, he just looks so much more confident, which is a weird thing to say about a chap who uses the word “phenomenal” as often as the Smurfs say “Smurf-ish/y/tastic”

Carmelo Anthony, SF 43 MIN | 12-23 FG | 10-12 FT | 3 REB | 5 AST | 3 STL | 0 BLK | 4 TO | 34 PTS | +13

Just a hard-workin’, muscular effort from Melo. He shrugged off really good defenders (like the Starks-ian [4-17] Paul George) and lesser ones, like our old friend Chris Copeland alike. Speaking of which, thanks for bricking two wide-open corner threes, buddy. ONCE A KNICK, ALWAYS…something, but you have to have felt a twang of nostalgia/regret watching Melo face up Cope and pound him until he resembled a substance that most closely resembles Guacamole in terms of color and texture.

Anyhoo, after George picked up his fourth foul, Vogel threw a passel of dudes who were either too small (Evan Turner) or too ornery (“Born Ready”) to corral Anthony in any way, shape or form. The funnest part was watching a near carbon copy of the series-changing swat, ‘cept this time Melo was just a tad more slithery in putting George in the blender before exploding to the rim. Yes, after a grueling six-game series, that’s to be expected. Still, it was kewl.

Slightly less giddily piquant was, you might have missed this little bit o’ sideline/timeout palaver. In case you were watching on ESPN, here’s what went down.

Which, yeah. If you or I or a even Franciscan monk that was really, really dedicated to the whole ‘vow of silence’ thing had to deal with Son of Wood’s boolsheeeeet, we’d have blown a gasket 15-20 games ago.

UPDATE: According to the Wall St. Journal’s Christophe Clupea, it wasn’t really Melo throwing shade, just a weirdly timed exhortation.

Not to get all Zapruder film with this ish, but it seems that Woodson is reacting, not out of animosity or because there’s an actual beef, but just because of the volume/tone. Will there be KnicksDrama™ about this? Yes. Yes there will.

But hey, five assists (and the ‘Bockers are 17-7 when he dishes four or more) and some solid defense, whether he was tusslin’ with West or keeping a hesitant, insecure PG in front of him, and some screamy, Rockne-esque timeout screams equals a nifty night.

Tyson Chandler, C 39 MIN | 2-5 FG | 3-4 FT | 14 REB | 0 AST | 1 STL | 1 BLK | 2 TO | 7 PTS | +5

The slew of patented Chandler-brand tip-outs, leading to six offensive rebounds in the 1st quarter (they average 11 per) were a big factor in amassing 21-14 lead, even though they shot a robust 6-25 from the field. There was a chasedown/recovery block of George (man, did he have a shitty night) and another on Hibbert during a critical stretch in the fourth. The Cornfielders were doing there usual funnel pick and rolls to Hibbert in the middle thing, and as a result, there were scant opportunities for TysonSmashing (is that a thing? It should be a thing), but that three man/double handoff weave play worked like a positively slathered in extra-virgin olive oiled machine.

Raymond Felton, PG 28 MIN | 4-11 FG | 2-3 FT | 6 REB | 6 AST | 2 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 11 PTS | +5

When Felton makes a tough shot, the game’s over y’all. Usually it’s one of those powerful ugly free throw line floaters. Tonight, it was a banked trey after a thoroughly discombobulated, ISO-tastic possession as the shot clock expired The Knicks really should’ve just drop the collective mic and walk off the court.
Or better yet, Felt needs a “Drop the Mic” move that’s on par with Shump’s cell phone tossing bit. It’s also possible that Lance Stephenson might’ve tried to remove Ray’s spleen with a rusty shrimp fork had he done so, so… okay let’s forget I said anything. There was an ugly stretch of missed 20 footers, but the whole going under the screen thing sort of worked, if only because the Cars/Horses seemed equally willing to jack up inefficient heaves when given the opportunity.

J.R. Smith, SG 29 MIN | 3-9 FG | 0-0 FT | 6 REB | 2 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 7 PTS | +7

I have zero notes regarding J.R. Smith. Ye Olde Boxscore indicates that he played, and that he missed a lot of shots, but I must have missed them all. I dunno, help me out here, people.

Cole Aldrich, C 9 MIN | 0-2 FG | 2-2 FT | 2 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 1 BLK | 1 TO | 2 PTS | -2

I’m sure you all heard the chatter about what current Knickerbockers catch Philip’s fancy. Melo, Shump, Chandler, Hardaway and…Cole Aldrich? Sure. 35% DREB rate, best in the NBA. Sort of looks like a child’s drawing of a walrus. May have a body that’s entirely composed of blancmange, but yeah. Cole train, baby! So, whether it’s to curry favor with the team’s new Zen Overlord, or it’s to have a slightly bigger (bigger than Jeremy Tyler, at least, who yes, has been struggling of late) body to fling in front of Hibbert, Cole (who Doug Collins kept calling “Cold” instead) was the first PF/C off the pine.

It did not go well.

Said blancmange was thoroughly cooked by Hibbert. Maybe it’s the dirty water hot dogs or he saw Wicked for the 23rd time last night, but the dude just turns into Olajuwon in the post whenever he sets foot upon the Isle of the Manhattoes. 14 freaking 3rd quarter points, lefty hooks, righty hooks, face up jumpers: everything found the bottom of the net. Some of that falls squarely on Aldrich’s buzzcut. And please, stop trying to dunk on people. His inability to judge either the distance to the rim or his own ability to elevate brought back all those bad Bargs memories. Hey, remember Bargs? Hehe. That was awful. Bad times, bad times…

Shannon Brown, PG 0 MIN | 0-0 FG | 0-0 FT | 0 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 0 PTS | 0

Shannon Brown Anagram: BRAN, NON SHOWN.

Pablo Prigioni, PG 20 MIN | 2-5 FG | 0-0 FT | 2 REB | 1 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 5 PTS | +1

Be honest, when Pablo scored that breakaway layup, you too could just tell that every single fiber of his being was screaming for someone, anyone to dish it off to. I half expected him to breakdown in halting, jagged tears.

Iman Shumpert, SG 29 MIN | 1-5 FG | 0-0 FT | 3 REB | 1 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 3 PTS | -4

Shump did a nifty job of sticking with George no matter how many organ-rearranging screens West et al. set, keeping him on the perimeter. But seriously, not-Knicks basketball teams, STOP HITTING SHUMPERT IN THE FACE. He got clocked at least twice tonight, and I all I wanted was to get sucked into my computer, Tron-style to scream “J’Accuse!” at Vogel. In closing, stop hitting Shumpert in the face.

Tim Hardaway Jr., SG 15 MIN | 0-7 FG | 2-2 FT | 5 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 2 PTS | -3

Sometimes, you miss. After averaging 23 points the past three games, Timmy the Younger got…(checks math) two garbage time charity stripe points. There were a couple of those cringe-worthy, off-balance dribble pull ups, but mostly he just bricked shots he was hitting.

Mike Woodson

“Absolutely I can teach it. But it’d be even better if he helped me teach it. That would be great. Who would be better at teaching the triangle than Phil Jackson? So if that be the case and I get that opportunity, sure, I think, I know I can teach the triangle offense. It’s basketball. It’s what we do.”

Psst, Mike. You’re trying too hard to suck up to the new boss. PS: PHIL JACKSON IS THE NEW BOSS. IT’S STILL AWESOME.

Five Things We Saw

  1. So hey, seven in a row! The Knicks started out the first looking downright tense, as if Phil’s aura was giving all of them a terminal case of bad vibes, (EDITOR’S NOTE: There will be a noted increase in hippie/drug jokes from hence forward. I had a whole bit about the hours that Phil spent pregame burning sage and ripping the leather off of a few front row seats to cobble together a makeshift Native American costume that was required for the mystic rites/dances to purge the Mecca of 14+ years of evil spirits and bad juju. It got a little long, so that summary will have to suffice. Just be aware that ish like that’s coming down the pike on the regular. Cost of doing business, yo.) but the Hicks were playing poopy enough that it didn’t really matter. There were so many freaking unforced, sloppy turnovers, and the Knicks were hitting the glass hard enough that they were able to build a solid 16-point lead. The fact that they went on an 8-0 run to make it 35-23 occurred at the exact moment that our giddy, effervescent POTNYK was chatting with the ESPN sideline reporter did not go unnoticed ‘round these parts.
  2. The rest of the contest saw that lead slowly but surely dwindle. The Pacers stopped coughing up the rock, and the Knicks scurried away from the offensive glass like it was the Chicago Riot Police in ‘68 (See?). Things got really, really ISO’y down the stretch, but Melo and STAT bailed them out enough for the win. Yay!
  3. And James Dolan, the man that went seven freaking years without speaking to the ink-stained wretches, did a sideline interview. Really. This is a thing that happened. He looked a little shaky, and once again repeated his “I don’t know anything about basketball” line, which, duh. But he did okay, and in his awkwardness seemed far more human than I’d imagined possible. Don’t get me wrong; he’s still an evil shit for reasons that have nothing to do with basketball. Read up about how he treats unions, or low-level employees if you care to delve, and there’s something kind of unseemly about this public victory lap (especially when he hasn’t won anything except for a PR war). But hey, maybe he’s learning. There is no such thing as a clean slate, but people can change and grow, or at least realize when it’s time to get the fuck out of the way.
  4. Speaking of which, optimism and/or hope. I wrote a long thing over at the Daily Beast about why this probably won’t work and money and the Wire and a bunch of other stuff. That’s my logical take on all this. The fan in me, however, is absolutely over the moon. I like having a guy in charge who is competent and smart and when he says he has a plan, it’s not just a marketing slogan (of course, it is a marketing slogan, and a very good one. Let’s just say it’s both.) I like the idea of connecting to the past, even if again, that too is just another means to separate you and I from the ducats in our pocket.
  5. I was having this convo on the Twitter about the draft, and the proposed ‘wheel’ modification, and friend-of-the-blog netw3rk (I’m paraphrasing) said something super smart—that fandom isn’t about the pleasure in watching managerial or systemic competence. If you take away the lottery, yes you probably could devise a better way of allocating the top prospects, but you’d kill the hope that the tanking teams have, that they can somehow luck their way into an Anthony Davis. And that you’re never going to achieve total competence, with 30 clones of the Spurs anyway, so why destroy the dreams of a good portion of your consumer base. He’s right. Phil Jackson gives this franchise hope. And as recently as two weeks ago, I didn’t think that was possible. I know I’ve slung the line “Hope is the sharpest, cruelest knife in fate’s kitchen drawer” ‘round these parts in the past. It’s still true, but hope is also a good thing, especially if hope is all we/you have.

    So for these cats, who (bless their hearts) still trudged down to 7th Avenue to protest, I feel your #feels, but seriously awful timing, bros.

    Sad Protest

    And yeah, that was sad. All American protests are inherently sad, maybe because we know that the powers that be (especially when it’s about something far more important than a freaking basketball team) just don’t give a fuck. So come back into the fold, guys. Maybe, just maybe, it’ll be all right.

    I’m interested to see what Phil Jackson will do, and I really like Phil Jackson the human being. For now, that’s enough.

    Damn straight!

57 comments on “Knicks 92, Pacers 86

  1. DRed

    Also, Tyson’s review seems to have infiltrated Stat’s section.

    Timmy gets an A from me for matching his career high with 5 rebounds. Just put in the work, rookie. The shots will fall someday.

  2. Frank

    Have you guys noticed the switching thing seems to have completely disappeared? Is this a change in Woodson or are the guys just fighting harder to get over screens?

    Very impressed by Amare last night in terms of his defensive effort and his ability to finish inside against the Pacers’ front line.

  3. Hubert

    Hibbert’s bitch got badly outscored, but somehow got 11 more rebounds than his master.

    ^ my favorite comment from last night’s thread. I don’t remember who it was that kept calling Tyson that, but damn I’m glad he’s gone.

  4. RicanKnick

    Is it safe to say that A’mare has officially evolved into 2014’s Larry Johnson??? I love the way he’s playing.
    Our beloved team is playing with more energy…and passion! Love that too…

  5. Zanzibar

    Deep down I think we all have known that Amare’s got to contribute for us to really advance in the playoffs. It’s too much to place the whole offense on Melo. That would make it all the more maddening if we miss the playoffs when Amare is playing like this.

  6. DRed

    We’re probably going to Knicks this up, but at least the games are fun to watch again. We actually played decent defense in spurts last night.

  7. DRed

    Hibbert looked awesome on offense last night. Those hooks he dropped in over Tyson were basically unstoppable. But somehow his TS% is a medicore 52%. Does he only play well against the Knicks?

  8. Kahnzy

    A D- for Cole? I’ll remember this, Silverman. Mark my words.

    I dunno, that seemed rather fair to me. I’m with you on Cole getting more minutes so Tyson can get a rest, and also Cole>Tyler at the moment. But the guy is gonna have bad games, and every once in a while he’s gonna look like a guy who should be sitting on the bench a lot.

    Hibbert is a legitimately good center and, after Noah and Howard, is one of the better ones in the league. Aldrich got scorched by him. Hopefully he’s able to learn something from it so that when we match up in the playoffs he has a better handle on how to make Hibbert look like Hibbert rather than Kevin McHale (or any other legendary plays-in-the-post big man).

    Also, fuck Lance Stevenson. Seriously can’t stand that guy and I am so glad he was never a Knick.

  9. KnickfaninNJ

    Weirdly enough Chris Copeland had the highest plus minus on the Pacers last night. And he didn’t even play very many minutes.

  10. lavor postell

    Yeah seriously fuck lance Stephenson. Never seen a guy who celebrates every time he makes a fucking shot. They kept zooming on him doing some stupid hop up the floor every time he made a shot. That no look pass was the epitome of who that guy is and nothing made me happier than that turnover followed by that awkward Felton elbow jumper to seal it.

    Jr didn’t do shit offensively but he did a good job defensively and he isn’t making boneheaded low iq plays. That to me is a sign of progress. It’s actually been a while since jr made a play that just left me cringing in horror.

  11. johnlocke

    @ Lavor … yeh all my venom was aimed at Lance, can’t stand that guy — but then realized that JR kept falling for his stupid move of pretending to pull it back out only to drive to the rim for uncontested layup. JR is the opposite of a Phil Jackson player — will be interesting to see what happens with him in the off-season. He along with Bargnani are most likely candidates to be shipped out if possible before / by next season. No one’s taking Raymond.

    Anyway — still think if we can only lose 3 games from here on out if we wan’t to make the playoffs. So, 1-0 so far. A great start!

  12. Nick C.

    I was out and didn’t see the game but the Lance descriptions sound like Nate (or to a lesser extent Spree who had a habit of hopping and tugging the front of his jersey after baskets). I have a feeling all that stuff becomes “I like his fire and energy” when a guy is on your team. Anyway who woulda thunk 7 wins in a row.

  13. Hubert

    Weirdly enough Chris Copeland had the highest plus minus on the Pacers last night. And he didn’t even play very many minutes.

    And he wasn’t very good, either. Made me sad to watch him bricking shots like it was the first time he shot in a game in 2 weeks (and it was).

    In hindsight, maybe signing Cope instead of Pablo was a good idea. Can’t really knock the decision, we all thought Pablo was vital. But had we known that Woodson was going to bury him all year, I’d have rather brought Copeland back.

  14. flossy

    Have you guys noticed the switching thing seems to have completely disappeared? Is this a change in Woodson or are the guys just fighting harder to get over screens?

    I honestly suspect the whole team has thoroughly tuned him out to the point that they’re reverting to what comes naturally, i.e. simple man defense, fighting through (or at least going under) screens, and limited doubling, rather than trying to execute his it-wasn’t-broke-but-I-fixed-it madness of constant switching and random doubling.

  15. Hubert

    We’re probably going to Knicks this up, but at least the games are fun to watch again.

    I think it’s written in stone that we will end up 39-43 (meaning we finished the year on a remarkable 18-3 run) and miss the playoffs by a game, causing us to reminisce about the dozen or so games we lost because our coach is an imbecile and wondering which one cost us the playoffs.

    To me, the Bradley Beal layup game won’t be topped.

  16. flossy

    Every time Lance Stevenson struts around preening and otherwise showboating, it makes me wonder if he did some elaborate chest-pounding celebration after that time he threw his baby momma down a flight of stairs.

  17. Nick C.

    Could you imagine if all life was like Lance Stephenson. You press the button and the elevator arrives, seven office workers miss the elevator because they are doing jigs of joy and exaltation. You pull up your fly without catching anything… You make dinner and have to throw half of it out or nuke it cuz it’s cold after you danced and chest thumped after every bite … it or, just I, could go on.

  18. GoNyGoNYGo

    Gutty game. Dem Pacers like hacking and wacking. It seemed like their game plan was to maim the Knicks. This reminded me of the Van Gundy Knicks.

    I don’t think Cole’s D- was deserved. He was a big body put in to do some bumping around. Considering how little PT he got early in the year, I give him a pass.

    Amare’s really stepping up. He’s the friggin difference right now, more than anyone. With THJ and JR being as inconsistent as they are, he’s become a real second option. The defense has to collapse on him when he drives and he’s been finishing. Isn’t this what the plan SHOULD have been from the get-go?

  19. DRed

    Stephenson seems like a total prick, but we’d probably love him if he was on the Knicks, because he has developed into an excellent ball player. Can Indy afford to keep him? He’s going to get a max offer from someone, I’d think.

  20. DRed

    I dunno, that seemed rather fair to me. I’m with you on Cole getting more minutes so Tyson can get a rest, and also Cole>Tyler at the moment. But the guy is gonna have bad games, and every once in a while he’s gonna look like a guy who should be sitting on the bench a lot.

    That was someone tongue in cheek. I would have given him a C-, ’cause he was effective in the first half, and then got abused like 3 possessions in a row by Hibbert in the second. Hibbert also scored at will on Tyson, who played pretty damn good defense on him. I don’t get why Hibbert isn’t better. He looks good every time I see him play (although that’s like 6 games this year).

  21. Eternal OptiKnist

    i feel bad for woody. I think he’s a good, to very good coach. he’s just not a championship-level tactician. But i do think he’s a good leader. I think in their hearts they dont want to fire him but know he’s probably not a guy that can outsmart or at least hold his own against opposing coaches in a series. Thats just my interpretation, maybe he’s over-achieving with this group and deserves more credit. i dunno. I just see a guy that gets up in front of the media and answers all of these questions like a true pro and is unflappable; inspiring on that front. Seems like a good man and good leader but just short of what it takes to win a chip from am Xs and Os standpoint.

  22. Frank O.

    Nice to read Robert again.
    I’ve been celebrating the re-emergence of Amar’e a lot here lately.
    He was formidable last night. Pacers really couldn’t stop him.
    4 boards wasn’t great, but hey…

    It just seems like there is more chatter, more intensity on defense, and a hell of a lot more confidence.
    The game last night never really felt in doubt, the Tyson 3 pt foul late notwithstanding.

    Seven straight is impressive, sandwiching five bad teams between a win against GS and the Pacers.
    They just need to keep this intensity.
    The Hawks are not making it easy, having won five straight.
    A lot of ground to make up over 16 games.
    I think Woodson is gone, as will be the entire coaching staff.
    It was interesting to hear comments from the Pacers’ coach. He seemed to think the team was finally coming together.
    That may be generous.

  23. Nick C.

    Random thought but could the defensive improvement be tied in part to Tyson having fully recovered from the broken leg? He just seems so much more engaged the last month or so.

  24. mj1

    “Isn’t this what the plan SHOULD have been from the get-go?”

    Yes. It’s also why Woody will and should be immediately fired when the NYK come up a game short in this playoff run.

  25. johnno

    So, I checked the upcoming schedule on espn.com and noticed something really weird — tickets for Cavs at Knicks next week start at $84. Here are some prices for other games next week — Nets at Pelicans — $3, T-Wolves at Grizzlies — $3, Sixers at Spurs — $6, Pistons at Jazz — $3, Bucks at Clippers — $9. You can go to a Spurs home game for $6 or a Clippers home game for $9?? Which is more strange — that you can’t get a ticket to see a team that is 12 games under .500 for less than $84, or that you can watch the best team of our generation (at home) for $6??

  26. DRed

    San Antonio is cheap, man. At least it was in the 90s, when I lived there. I could afford go buy good playoff tickets to Spurs games when I was a broke ass college student. Granted, the Alamodome was probably the worst basketball venue in the NBA, but that was still cool. Those spurs tickets are $10 bucks face, and they’re playing the Sixers.

  27. DRed

    ” [Tony] Parker is listing this Tuscan-style home for $865,000 with Liz Blue Braden of Keller Williams. It has five bedrooms, four full bathrooms, one half bathroom, a pool, a media room and about 4,556 square feet of space.

    There are big views, a dog kennel, dual closets in the master, and one of the secondary bedrooms has its own outside access. “

  28. lavor postell

    Seeing Copeland was depressing. Vogel is a really good coach with a strong defensive ethos and game plan, but this team desperately needs offensive punch and Cope is rotting away on the bench. Also Indiana shouldn’t be as bad on offense as they are. Their offensive sets are really just as bad as the Knicks sets are for the most part.

  29. JK47

    Random thought but could the defensive improvement be tied in part to Tyson having fully recovered from the broken leg? He just seems so much more engaged the last month or so.

    I’d say that a lot of the “improved” defense during the winning streak has come from playing abysmal offensive teams. Here’s the offensive rating rankings of the seven teams the Knicks have beaten during this streak:
    MIN 9th
    UTA 23rd
    CLE 24th
    PHI 30th
    BOS 26th
    MIL 27th
    IND 21st

    Not exactly a murderer’s row of offensive teams there. And in a few of those games, the Knicks performed very poorly defensively– the Knicks allowed a 113.7 offensive rating to Philly, 112.5 to the Bucks and 112.2 to the T-Wolves. The league-average defensive rating is 106.3 this year, and the worst defensive team in the league, Milwaukee, has a 110.9 rating.

    The Knicks looked pretty good on defense yesterday, but the winning streak has been driven by great offense, not great defense. The Knicks are still a pretty bad defensive team.

  30. flossy

    I still maintain that Chris Copeland is a marginal NBA player who got way overhyped by Knicks fans who fetishize homegrown talent. The fact that he’s not getting much burn on a Pacers team that emphasizes defense doesn’t surprise me much at all. Not that guarding Carmelo Anthony is the standard for defensive ability, but man, he got totally undressed by Melo on about six straight possessions last night.

    I think, much like Gerald Green or Steve Novak, for example, he’s destined to be an end-of-the-bench player except for when he lucks into exactly the right situation (a la Novak on the Knicks or Green on the Suns).

  31. DRed

    The Knicks looked pretty good on defense yesterday, but the winning streak has been driven by great offense, not great defense.

    Someone find a Woodson quote about us going streaking b/c we’re back to our fundamentals-defense and rebounding. It has to be out there.

  32. Hubert

    Man, we might end up with a healthy Amar’e heading into May in the best form he’s been in since 2011…and no games to play in the playoffs…because Woodson.

    It’s too sad to even think about.

    I want to make the playoffs now if only because this is probably the last chance we will ever have to see Amar’e Stoudemire play like this. He’ll have some offseason surgery or get hurt next year or something.

    What a waste.

    I hate you, Mike Woodson.

  33. Hubert

    So, I checked the upcoming schedule on espn.com and noticed something really weird — tickets for Cavs at Knicks next week start at $84. Here are some prices for other games next week — Nets at Pelicans — $3, T-Wolves at Grizzlies — $3, Sixers at Spurs — $6, Pistons at Jazz — $3, Bucks at Clippers — $9. You can go to a Spurs home game for $6 or a Clippers home game for $9?? Which is more strange — that you can’t get a ticket to see a team that is 12 games under .500 for less than $84, or that you can watch the best team of our generation (at home) for $6??

    One thing to note when you’re looking at those prices is that if you’re just looking at the schedule, the cheapest seat you see is actually a parking pass. If you click the link to actually look for tickets, you’ll see that the actual seats are more expensive.

  34. DRed

    I still maintain that Chris Copeland is a marginal NBA player who got way overhyped by Knicks fans who fetishize homegrown talent.

    Copeland is a Bargnani who can actually score. You could use him in a defense/rebounding heavy lineup to cover up his weaknesses or a balls out “you score 2, we’ll score 3″ unit. He’s not a guy who should be getting heavy minutes, though.

  35. Hubert

    Copeland is a Bargnani who can actually score.

    That’s like saying DRed is a Dogrufus who can write good posts.

  36. johnlocke

    speaking of posters, whatever happened to ruruland? Does he post here anymore? Someone run him out of town?

  37. lavor postell

    I imagine ruru will be back if we clinch a playoff spot and if Melo re-signs this summer

  38. Hubert

    I think the last time RuRu was hear was when Melo said he would consider signing for a discount and RuRu suddenly reappeared to play dueling I-Told-You-So’s with Cock Jowles.

    If Melo signs for the supermax we may never hear from him again.

  39. johnlocke

    @ Lavor, @ Hubert … ha, so chances are low we’ll be hearing from him again. Got it!

  40. Keniman Shumpwalker

    was sitting about 7 rows behind the Pacers bench last night and myself, along with a few other dudes in my section, really let Lance have it. Kept it PG but the heckling was non-stop, especially after that egregious flop and the no-look to nowhere. It legitimately seemed to get under his skin. He kept glaring up at our section during timeouts and one of the assistant coaches on their bench had to keep grabbing him and, seemingly, imploring him to pay attention. It was glorious. Also, during one timeout, i yelled, “we still luh ya, Cope!” to which he responded with a sheepish grin and a wink. It was probably the highlight of his season.

  41. Z-man

    Don’t look now, but our next 4 games are very winnable, and Charlotte’s next 3 games are very loseable. Just enough to make it close so that the inevitable evisceration of Knick fans this season is as William Wallace-like as possible.

    Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things.

  42. lavor postell

    I hope for Copeland’s sake he gets traded this summer to some place where he’ll actually get some burn

  43. lavor postell

    http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nba/pacers/2014/03/19/indiana-pacers-nba-new-york-knicks/6637785/

    “(The Knicks) switch almost everything on the floor,” George said. “They just take you out of stuff and we haven’t grown our I.Q. as a team into improvising when teams try to throw in little wrenches into our offense and that’s where we got to grow offensively.

    “I say that because at this point of the season everybody knows what we’re running, so this is the point where we’ve got to be able to play at a higher pace and higher I.Q. as a team to where we can beat teams to whatever style that they’re playing.”
    ……
    “I usually don’t run the court like that but I said, if I have to be the first big guy down the court to get the ball, I’ll start (running) to try and change it,” Hibbert said. “Usually I’m not a sprinting type but tonight, I tried to do it.”
    ……
    “Sometimes when we have success with a certain style, things change. People’s roles change,” Hibbert said. “And some nights we have nights like this where you get going in the game but we’ve been more a perimeter-oriented team.

    “Did ok,” Hibbert continued, but paused, “I think you know what I’m trying to say but I’m not going to say it.”

    For a moment, Hibbert, who carefully chose his words, dropped the veiled references and clearly stated his opinion on how the offense should flow.

    “We’ve fallen in love with the jump shot for a while,” Hibbert said. “People feel like they have it going and they want to do it themselves sometimes. That’s just how it works. I feel like two guys that I have 100 percent trust in doing that is Paul and David. I feel like they should have carte blanche on whatever they want to do in terms of attacking the paint and (put) the ball’s in their hands because they’ve earned my respect.”
    ……

    Interesting comments all around

  44. Owen

    Is there anything more annoying than the fact that the first round of the NCAA has become the second round?

    Probably, but still super annoying…

  45. Brian Cronin

    Don’t look now, but our next 4 games are very winnable, and Charlotte’s next 3 games are very loseable. Just enough to make it close so that the inevitable evisceration of Knick fans this season is as William Wallace-like as possible.

    Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things.

    Definitely. Hope is a very good thing. I’m thrilled we actually get to have it!

  46. hoolahoop

    It’s time to get your hopes up. PJ is in the house. Seven in a row. Playoffs just about within reach. First round against Indiana. Hey, the knicks can beat those dudes.
    Yeah, let’s get our hopes up real high, so when they rip our hearts out, it will be raw agony.

  47. johnno

    How funny is it that George seemed to be saying that the Knicks’ constant switching gave them problems — especially since a lot of us thought that they did a lot less switching than usual last night…

  48. Brian Cronin

    It’s time to get your hopes up. PJ is in the house. Seven in a row. Playoffs just about within reach. First round against Indiana. Hey, the knicks can beat those dudes.
    Yeah, let’s get our hopes up real high, so when they rip our hearts out, it will be raw agony.

    I’d gladly choose that feeling than the feeling of hopelessness we had for so long during this season.

    Although, it’s funny, I know that a lot of us (myself included) still felt that the Knicks were very much going to make the playoffs right up until that last long losing streak. Even during then, I thought that they had a chance but before that losing streak, I thought that they were definitely going to make it. So I guess the season hasn’t really been all that hopeless. Annoying? Yes. Aggravating? Yes. Pathetic? Yes. But I still had hope that they’d make the playoffs for quite a while (mostly because the rest of the East sucks so bad).

  49. BKQuick

    At this point, my biggest concern related to the Knicks not making the playoffs is how it will effect Melo’s decision to stay or leave. I don’t think any one factor is all important in that regard, but missing the playoffs can’t help strenghten the argument for him staying.

    As for Cope, I agree with another poster that if Pablo was only going 10-12 minutes a game, I would have preferred that we kept Cope. Maybe keeping Copeland would have spared us from the Bargs trade.

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