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Thursday, July 24, 2014

Knicks 125, Thunder 120

A song:

Doomed to lose once again before the tip had soared
The Knicks found shots in clutch and stops enough to win
Melo kept his flame aloft and beasted bold the boards
While Earl’s late game hoists turned cheers and jeers to dins

Wesbtrook’s feats nearly fell a late game lead and streak
While the thin one’s flails could have won the tilt in throws
Instead, Atlantic’s crown is ours by early week
As we rest easy knowing Kendrick Perkins blows

Blazing pace and scorching hands marked the afternoon
With threes rained down to the tune of twenty-four
Long stretches seemed a farce, a basketball cartoon
With defense less an effort than feet staid to floor

Early on the Thunder struck, a noble end seemed joined
But Kidd’s first quarter hits helped slice the lead to one
Even early fouls could not keep the Knicks from points
A nine point lead at half, SHIT WE’RE HAVING FUN!

Cough-ups caused the foes to start the third ablaze
Another gear the Thunder found, but hey, nice try!
How I loathe Russ’s smugness, let me count the ways
Collison’s blood could likely make a Kleenex cry

Late the Bockers won by taking back the trenches
Nineteen OREBs on the day, nine by Melo’s strength
While New York held down the battle of the benches
Kidd’s head, Earl’s touch, and Copeland’s driving length

Shump slinked, Pablo panicked, and Novak hit a pair
While Reggie Jackson’s driving kept the contest close
Kevin Martin’s hoists all the day rang true and fair
And Derek Fisher’s flesh rot flopped into the nose

But the day swung again to Melo’s golden touch
A mix of distant silk and point blank brawn the way
And when the silent whistles failed to irk him much
Resolve and focus met in time to seize the day

Poise, smarts, cool and strength – each is owed a nod and due
The defense still needs mending, many holes remain
And we can’t have sole Melo to carry forth the crew
Still, a win like this leaves little room to complain

A dozen now and counting on this dream-like streak
With a mere six tilts left before the true tests starts
A lovelier time we could scarce have picked to peak
Team in sync, offense taut, and Melo tossing darts

Who knows if June arrives to find us one of two?
If Boston’s banners cast us into early shade?
If April’s magic, like November’s, falls to blues?
Or our dreams die by the hands of ‘Bron, Bosh and Wade?

What we know is this is roundball joy, roundball bliss
That fifty hasn’t happened since Slick Willy’s reign
That only two Knick squads have strung more wins than this
That this year’s coaster makes Linsanity seem sane

46 comments on “Knicks 125, Thunder 120

  1. ephus

    This is a GREAT time to be a Knick fan.

    JR Smith for 6th Man of the Year.

    Woodson for COY (for figuring out the secret to make JR Smith harness his amazing talents).

    Hoping that K-Mart and/or Camby and/or ‘Sheed come back strong.

    Even have hope that STAT will come back and contribute.

  2. lavor postell

    ephus:
    This is a GREAT time to be a Knick fan.

    JR Smith for 6th Man of the Year.

    Woodson for COY (for figuring out the secret to make JR Smith harness his amazing talents).

    Hoping that K-Mart and/or Camby and/or ‘Sheed come back strong.

    Even have hope that STAT will come back and contribute.

    This version of JR is easily the best player in the league coming off the bench. Crazy to think we can add a 60+ TS% player during the playoffs. We’ve all bitched about Woodson at some point this season, but he really doesn’t get enough credit for how he has absolutely maximized every player on this roster. Also I have a ton of faith in this front office. Copeland has his flaws, but when the last guy off the bench is a viable offensive option that really is incredible.

    Anybody else upset that we gave up our 2012 and 2014 picks to Denver now? Melo is not a paper tiger, but a true superstar who will be enshrined in Springfield once he hangs up his sneakers for good. Is there even a doubt that he’s the best Knick since Ewing?

  3. Z-man

    I have to say, Jim, your poem was brilliant, especially considering how little time it took you to craft it. Great job!

  4. AvonBarksdale

    Highlight of the game is when Reggie Jackson was just dumbfounded watching Melo got his own rebound three times for the put back…cause the entire OKC team was basically watching Melo instead of playing but he didn’t wake up from the daze until his teammates yelled at him to wake up. During some of our tough times a lot of knicks just stood around watching melo so it’s nice to see the guy on the other team looking like a spectator. Once we clinch the division I wonder if Chandler gets a little more rest or if we keep his minutes up for conditioning….

  5. lavor postell

    AvonBarksdale:
    Highlight of the game is when Reggie Jackson was just dumbfounded watching Melo got his own rebound three times for the put back…cause the entire OKC team was basically watching Melo instead of playing but he didn’t wake up from the daze until his teammates yelled at him to wake up. During some of our tough times a lot of knicks just stood around watching melo so it’s nice to see the guy on the other team looking like a spectator. Once we clinch the division I wonder if Chandler gets a little more rest or if we keep his minutes up for conditioning….

    Idk Chandler pretty much takes off the first 3 quarters in every game so I think he’ll be fine. Seriously though whenever Chandler decides to try for an entire game that would be great. He is amazing though when that happens.

  6. Frank

    I really can’t believe OKC can’t find someone better than Fisher to play 10-15 min/game. He is just awful.

  7. d-mar

    On the last day of the season, 4/17, we play Atlanta at home and Boston is at Toronto. Can you imagine if Boston and Atlanta are tied for the 6th spot going into that game? How about the Knicks resting Melo, JR, Tyson, Kidd and Felton to make sure we get Atlanta in round 1? Could be an interesting last day!

  8. Z-man

    I’m thinking we will have locked up the 2-spot by then, and we would have to beat Atlanta to knock them down to 7.

  9. d-mar

    Oops, my bad, you’re right, we would most likely want to beat the Hawks not lose to them

  10. Unreason

    That it happened…
    without KMart
    against a top-5 defense motivated by Anthony’s last 3 games and the scoring title race to shut him down
    when they forced the Knicks to play their style of game in their building

    JEEEZUS H FRIGGIN’ CHRIST.

    They have a legit shot at the title.

    The heat might just flip a “we’re serious now” switch and completely destroy everyone they face. Wouldn’t be surprised. But this was so real today.

    Unstoppable is a silly adjective, but at their best Anthony and Earl seem as unstoppable on offense as LeBron and Wade. They’re not nearly as good all ’round and their long term average performance won’t ever be comparable. But in any given series…I’m starting to believe.

  11. d-mar

    Could we actually run the table and finish the season with an 18 game winning streak? Only tough games are at Chicago and home against Indiana, although if we do lock up the 2 seed at some point, then obviously Woody shuts everyone down.

    But it would be cool to finish like that.

  12. lavor postell

    Honestly guys a real pathetic level of activity on this site today, at least in terms of comments, considering what this team did today and the extension of the winning streak. As Knicks fans we bitch a lot about how disrespected we feel from the national media and how they only focus on negatives with the Knicks, but that’s probably based on the fact we only mobilize in numbers when bad shit is happening to this franchise. Check the amount of comments in situations like not matching the Lin offer, Melo trade, 4 game West Coast trip, etc. versus beating OKC in OKC when the refs are fucking you, 20 point win in Miami sans Melo and this current 12-game win streak.

    I know I’m relatively new to the site, but I really think having a topic based forum allowing for users to create threads and being able to select related threads for posts would do a lot. Maybe there are reasons I’m unaware why this hasn’t happened (and if so please feel free to tell me to fuck off), but I for one would post far more often and in more depth if that was the case. Pretty much I’m trying to say that I need more activity on this site sometimes because I just need to talk me some Knicks more often than not and as much as I love P&T the level of discussion in the comments really doesn’t touch Knickerbloggers.

    Last thing is I think a JR Smith jersey will soon become a must have Knick fan item. There’s not a player we’ve had since Starks who can elicit unbridled joy or hatred within a single five minute stretch quite like Earl.

  13. llcoolbp

    Pete vecsey was on Wfan tonight and actually gave some good compliments to melo. It took Pete’s retirement for him to finally say something good about the Knicks. And he’s a hometown journalist.

    The negativity and poor basketball we’ve been fed as Knicks fans has scarred us. It makes us hesitant to rejoice when they play well. We are waiting for the air to come out of the balloon. That’s my theory on why its so quiet here after a win. That and it’s Sunday night before the work week.

  14. Brian Cronin

    Honestly guys a real pathetic level of activity on this site today, at least in terms of comments, considering what this team did today and the extension of the winning streak.

    It was the seventh-most commented game thread of the season! (and one of those threads was right after STAT’s injury, so the thread was mostly reacting to STAT’s injury)

    So that’s an odd criticism. Especially on a Sunday day game. Sunday day games typically get a lot less traffic, so the fact that it had this many comments is actually quite impressive.

    But yes, if I wasn’t currently traveling on a vacation with my wife, I’d have been sure to make it the fifth or fourth-most commented game threads of the season. ;) As I was quite pleased about this win, although it was quite a pain having to just follow it on my phone. :)

  15. jon abbey

    lavor postell:

    I know I’m relatively new to the site, but I really think having a topic based forum allowing for users to create threads and being able to select related threads for posts would do a lot.Maybe there are reasons I’m unaware why this hasn’t happened (and if so please feel free to tell me to fuck off), but I for one would post far more often and in more depth if that was the case.Pretty much I’m trying to say that I need more activity on this site sometimes because I just need to talk me some Knicks more often than not and as much as I love P&T the level of discussion in the comments really doesn’t touch Knickerbloggers.

    I pushed for this once before, and it happened, but then Mike I guess wasn’t happy with the way it was going so he went back to this format.

    I totally agree with you, I hate this ephemeral format. why put a lot of effort and research into a post when it will almost certainly sink from view within a day or two?

  16. slovene knick

    What a great game…with family in their beds I had to scream on mute sounding like a roaring stadium from a mile…..a good way to get an heart attack. Hands flippin around and sticking fingers in to the monitor…exhusted. I fear the playoffs now…have to see a cardiologist first to qualify.League pass is cool.

    @Lavor, who sits at a computer on a sunday?…you do that at work and on a week day…at least I do. And its easy to rip, harder to praise.That’s a global thing we all share.

    I thought Tirico & Brown just love these Knicks(first Knick game they did for me watching).

    Earl went back to step back again as consequence of thunder’s d(+refs) I hope that’s what kept him at bay. At msg he has to go to the hole again, right?
    I’m officially crossing to the dark side…Melo is great and the trade was pure genius.

  17. hegotgame

    Lavor I do feel you on the lack of comments. Im 5 hours ahead of you guys so I barely comment cos of infuriating game times. But yday game started at 6pm :)

    What a game it was. To have this sort of production with so much stacked against us was truly a great measure of this teams worth.

    Shitty refs as usual.
    Playing on the Road against runner up title favorites.
    Balky centre playing and 3(4?) major bigmen injured.

    Part of the reason it makes me so happy is because it shows how good Melo is. My favorite player in the league by far and also the most disrespected. And always by ppl who “know basketball” but who apparently don’t watch it. I hope he equals his performance when he went to the WCF with Denver then got screwed by two of the worst inbounds passes in the history of the playoffs. (lookin at u anthony carter). He owned Kobe in that series and when it came to crunch time his teammates let him down. On the other hand Pau Gasol and Ron Artest saved two kobe bricks to win two games in that series. If not for that Melo would at least have had a finals appearance and no1 would be talking shit but nobody remembers “almost” When he has dependable teamates he is basketball gold. He will give u everything u need to win. Perhaps not the greatest defender but hes no scrub and is let down by teamates more often than not. As I’ve said many times before. Put him in a Kevin Durant situation and theres no way him being a top 10 player is even a discussion. It would just be absolutely ludicrous. Can u imagine what would happen with constant catch and shoot situations plus getting a great whistle as well?? He would literally be the greatest offensive player the leagues has ever seen. Ever. It shocks me that people ever argue that if they’ve watched enough Melo games. 9 offensive rebounds? Thats probably AT LEAST 4-6 free throws. Instead they count as missed fg’s.

  18. hegotgame

    Basically. If this TEAM shows up. JR(sohappyicoppedhisjersey)/KIDD/SHUMP/TYSON/KMART/FELTON/PRIGS/COPE/ (CAMBY/AMARE) every team in the playoffs is beatable, and yes the heat too.

    if they all play their part, as they have been doing during this streak, u can bet on Melo more than doing his. This guy lives for the playoffs and has a bad rep cos he keeps getting let down by his supporting cast. i think having people who have tasted disappointment with him (JR/Kmart) as well as those who have had success (Kidd/Tyson) will really help maintaining the teams focus ESPECIALLY in the playoffs. I hope this is the year he changes his postseason image for good.

    Lets foam pack all the fire extinguishers in each building we play in please, thanks.

  19. Nick C.

    Um. It was the first (or one of the first) warmish spring like days of the year in the metropolitan area. One might wonder why people were sitting inside watching TV or on their computer. I get that there is a barrage of posting when things go wrong but much of it is 45 post back and forth involving people who drop in for such occasions so I wouldn’t make too much of it.

  20. bob cook

    Some comments about the future: Those of us who remember 1970 and 1973 or who are Giants football fans, figure that we need to win a title to be fulfilled rather than just a good team, like OKC for example. So…we’ve got a decent shot to do that this year, especially if the hospital discharges Stat, Cam, Sheed, etc. But let’s say we come up short. What does it take to retain JR? It’s astonishing that we just scooped him up from China without it costing us anything and as recently as last year, he was considered just a good bench guy and not more valuable than Novak. And it seems to me that Prigs/Kidd is a worry. Can Jason do anything at age 41 and there was some talk that Prigs will depart. A possible bright spot is Cope. He’s spent the year scoring all over da place and decently rebounding but driving the coach crazy with no defense. Well you don’t have to play defense in Belgium. In the first half of yesterday’s game, he was amazing. Blocked two shots, moved his feet, played the five and got o boards. If he works all off season, he could be a key piece of the puzzle for 2014.

  21. Frank

    lavor postell: I know I’m relatively new to the site, but I really think having a topic based forum allowing for users to create threads and being able to select related threads for posts would do a lot.

    If I remember correctly Mike K tried that maybe 2-3 years ago — and it wasn’t great, and we ended up back in this format.

    I think it was a Sunday/finally nice day in NYC thing more than anything else — and also historically this forum likes to complain about losses more than celebrate wins.

    Great great win — was like a Rocky movie with haymaker after haymaker (and no defense). How do pull out a win on the road against Hollinger’s #1 team in the league when they shoot 57.7/52.9/84%, gets 10 O-rebs, and only turns the ball over 12 times?

    Anyone who thinks our offense is a gimmick offense (we’ve heard that a few times here, no?) is crazy. Here are our offensive efficiencies in games played against Memphis, Boston, Miami, San Antonio, and OKC (to be fair we have really struggled against Chicago and Indiana — but a few of those games were without Melo):

    MEM: 120, 108
    BOS: 124.1, 109.9, 95.7, 111.6
    MIA: 118.6, 96.9, 117.9, 114.3
    SA: 111.8, 108.7
    OKC: 137.4, 102.2

    In 14 games against basically 5 out of the top 8 D’s in the league, our O has had 2 stinkers but also 11 games with an OffEff>108.

    I am starting to believe. A little nervous to be stepping out here again after so many years… but I’m starting to believe.

    Meanwhile I’m feeling like the playoff race is coming out pretty favorably for us. I’d rather play Atlanta but I still think we will handle Boston in Round 1. Then hopefully we’ll get home court against Indiana. But Miami looks like they’ll have to go through Chicago, and something tells me maybe Derrick Rose will come back in the next week or two and be some semblance of himself by Round 2.

  22. Juany8

    I think maybe instead of a full forum, the comments from the daily news threads could all be linked for the week? That way you have kind of a continuous discussion going on but there’s still the game threads and opinion pieces that you can have a self contained discussion in. Might be interesting ad doesn’t seem like it would be too much work

  23. The Infamous Cdiggy

    bob cook:
    Some comments about the future:Those of us who remember 1970 and 1973 or who are Giants football fans, figure that we need to win a title to be fulfilled rather than just a good team, like OKC for example.So…we’ve got a decent shot to do that this year, especially if the hospital discharges Stat, Cam, Sheed, etc.But let’s say we come up short.What does it take to retain JR?It’s astonishing that we just scooped him up from China without it costing us anything and as recently as last year, he was considered just a good bench guy and not more valuable than Novak….

    Damn, I missed this game. But soooo happy. How about that? A road win in OKC!
    Hey listen, I’m a Giants fan – they went flat down the stretch save for the final game when it was too late. Disappointing, but I believe most Gmen fans aren’t in tears about it coming off a 2nd Super Bowl win in 4 years. Now, I think the “championship or bust” mentality is more apt for the Yankees, but 2009 was only 4 seasons ago, and most realists know the current edition on the cusp of needed new/young blood. The Knicks – the team that many of us were yet to be born or thought of the last time the won the title, have gone through systmatic, subpar front office management along with the heartaches of the great 90s teams. To me, if you don’t root for your team to one day win the title (in any sport), then.. I mean, well. I’d love this team to go all the way this year. But in reality, for this year? Give me a Game 6 at home against Miami in the ECF’s and I’ll happily applaud… standing even.

  24. Brian Cronin

    I’m happy with just the second round. Of course, I’d love to see them go further (and I think that they have a real chance to compete for the Finals…well, so long as Melo and JR keep up their streak, of course) but I just want to see them win a round of the playoffs and I’ll be pleased! I bet that they will go to the ECF, at least, though.

  25. Z-man

    Not for nothing, but this NCAA final game is almost unwatchable. Bring bacl the late ’90′s NBA!

  26. Z-man

    Brian Cronin:
    I’m happy with just the second round. Of course, I’d love to see them go further (and I think that they have a real chance to compete for the Finals…well, so long as Melo and JR keep up their streak, of course) but I just want to see them win a round of the playoffs and I’ll be pleased! I bet that they will go to the ECF, at least, though.

    I won’t be. Maybe last year. I always hope for the maximum a team could possibly accomplish, and this team is a tough, veteran team with an underdog’s chance for a title. It is built to win now, and the window could slam shut next season. I would simply NOT be happy with just the second round. As Riley said, there’s winning and misery.

  27. Brian Cronin

    I won’t be. Maybe last year. I always hope for the maximum a team could possibly accomplish, and this team is a tough, veteran team with an underdog’s chance for a title. It is built to win now, and the window could slam shut next season. I would simply NOT be happy with just the second round. As Riley said, there’s winning and misery.

    I obviously get what you’re saying and I’m certainly not saying you’re wrong to feel that way, but I dunno, man, we’ve watched soooo much losing over the years, wouldn’t you be at least a little pumped just to see them win a round? I agree that they should make it at least to the ECF and if they don’t, then yes, I’ll be disappointed, but I won’t be unhappy. I’ll be pleased with the season overall still. They’ve had so many great wins. A 12-game (and counting) winning streak!!! So I’d still look back at this season fondly if they at least make it to the second round.

  28. BigBlueAL

    You guys must not watch much college bball, this might be the best played game this season. More an indictment on college ball now though than the greatness of this game.

  29. Brian Cronin

    Oh yeah, it’s better than the other final four games, but it is still really bad. Such stupidity from both ends, but especially Lousville in this last minute or so.

  30. BigBlueAL

    Brian Cronin:
    While it was a terrible game, it did win me $300, so I’m okay with it. ;)

    Damn, wish I was in your pool. Only won me 100 bucks lol.

  31. BigBlueAL

    Brian Cronin:
    Ha! Congrats, Al, how many of the Final Four did you guess correctly?

    1 lol. I had 3 of my Final 4 alive in the Elite 8 but Florida and Ohio St lost. It was a small pool amongst friends so it didnt take many correct picks to win it.

  32. yellowboy90

    I thought the game was pretty good but the officiating was horrible. Then again I only watched the 1st half.

  33. Brian Cronin

    The first half was better than the second. The second half just had one dumb play after another. Smith on Louisville alone made, like, three bonehead moves in just the last two minutes (like his ridiculous crosscourt pass to nobody that went out of bounds with his team up six points and a minute and a half in the game!).

  34. yellowboy90

    Brian Cronin:
    The first half was better than the second. The second half just had one dumb play after another. Smith on Louisville alone made, like, three bonehead moves in just the last two minutes (like his ridiculous crosscourt pass to nobody that went out of bounds with his team up six points and a minute and a half left in the game!).

    oh ok. Well I am glad I fell asleep.

  35. Z-man

    Brian Cronin: I obviously get what you’re saying and I’m certainly not saying you’re wrong to feel that way, but I dunno, man, we’ve watched soooo much losing over the years, wouldn’t you be at least a little pumped just to see them win a round? I agree that they should make it at least to the ECF and if they don’t, then yes, I’ll be disappointed, but I won’t be unhappy. I’ll be pleased with the season overall still. They’ve had so many great wins. A 12-game (and counting) winning streak!!! So I’d still look back at this season fondly if they at least make it to the second round.

    Yeah, I hear you too. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying that this isn’t galaxies better than what we have suffered through since forever. I just think we have gotten back to a 1990′s-level of expectations, i.e., it’s time to erase the last decade from out memories and get back to the mindset that although we are underdogs (like we pretty much always were back then) we have a shot, and to lose at any point will be hard. Obviously not as hard if we eke into the ECFs after beating the Celts and Pacers but get swept by a juggernaut Heat team. On the other hand, that would confirm that no matter what, we’ll always be bridesmaids to them, so that part of it would be tough.

  36. Z-man

    re: college b-ball, just seems like the defense is way ahead of the offense. Pretty good final game, but a far cry from the 80′s-90′s classics.

  37. Nick C.

    Look as long as the game is competitive and you don’t get the feel that you are watching de facto pro wresting it’s pretty much all good.

  38. slovene knick

    You guys are so spoild….NCAA bball is fine. Not NBA fine but I’d rather watch Louisville:Syracuse(on ESPN in HD with original tone) than Barcelona:Panatinaikos.
    And if there is something that I really think that Europe is missing in sports is something like NCAA…I understand the corruption in that article Owen posted(it’s omnipresent in every governing body) and the Ilcoolbp’s post also nails an aspect of it. NCAA has probably got to rethink it self but man I wish I could go to a college game with some of my friends against let’s say Ludwig Maximillians U of Munich or Universite Paris du Sorbonne(kind of Ivy league with Cambridge, Oxford and U of Bologne..), or more state kind basketball dominating uni like Uni of Belgrade, Lomonosov from Moscow, Universidad de Madrid…
    Well I can dream at work can’t I?:))

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