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		<title>By: ess-dog</title>
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		<dc:creator>ess-dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 21:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-303855&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-303855&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Frank&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: 
What we really need much more than more offense is more interior defense..&#160;&#160;

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I know this has been mentioned before, but the &quot;answer&quot; really is on our bench in Randolph.  It&#039;s clear that D&#039;Antoni wants to start Amare at center anyway - he&#039;s done this effectively in the past - but Chandler is better as a 6th man than a starting pf.  Randolph can defend pf&#039;s fairly well and gets a lot of weakside blocks and rebounds.  But apparently, he&#039;s not fit to be playing AT ALL just yet.  Hell, we&#039;ve looked pretty good with Shawn(e) in there...  maybe he gets the nod if he keeps his play up?  Not so convinced we need another big body that can&#039;t really play that well...]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-303855" rel="nofollow">Frank</a></strong>:<br />
What we really need much more than more offense is more interior defense..&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>
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<p>I know this has been mentioned before, but the &#8220;answer&#8221; really is on our bench in Randolph.  It&#8217;s clear that D&#8217;Antoni wants to start Amare at center anyway &#8211; he&#8217;s done this effectively in the past &#8211; but Chandler is better as a 6th man than a starting pf.  Randolph can defend pf&#8217;s fairly well and gets a lot of weakside blocks and rebounds.  But apparently, he&#8217;s not fit to be playing AT ALL just yet.  Hell, we&#8217;ve looked pretty good with Shawn(e) in there&#8230;  maybe he gets the nod if he keeps his play up?  Not so convinced we need another big body that can&#8217;t really play that well&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ess-dog</title>
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		<dc:creator>ess-dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 21:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-303853&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-303853&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mike&#032;Kurylo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: 
BTW Ted Nelson must be gone, because per-game stats are creeping into the comments.&#160;&#160;

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LOL]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-303853" rel="nofollow">Mike&#032;Kurylo</a></strong>:<br />
BTW Ted Nelson must be gone, because per-game stats are creeping into the comments.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>
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<p>LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Frank O.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank O.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 20:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-303855&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Frank&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: Re: the Melo issue – I was one of the major proponents of getting Melo earlier, but watching this team play, I don’t think he’d be a great fit. We have our high usage scorer in Amare. We have 3 medium-high usage guys that score relatively efficiently when Amare’s not in the game – Gallo, Chandler, Felton. .&#160;&#160;&lt;a title=&quot;Click here or select text to quote comment&quot; href=&quot;void(null)&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;(Quote)
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Frank:
I agree that we don&#039;t need to trade for Melo, and I too was a fan of getting him before. I don&#039;t like what it would cost the Knicks to get him.
Currently, I like that we have a team with a focal point and then parts that complement...but I do fret about wear and tear on Amare. Having another big time offensive weapon like Melo would be valuable, giving the Knicks another top scorer when Amare is resting, but a trade, IMHO, would be too costly.
Personally, I&#039;d like to give Mosgov more time and keep a platoon of Turiaf and Mos for at least half of the season if not more. I think Mos will improve and become a valuable asset.
Now, if the Knicks can get Melo as an FA, I&#039;m all for it. Then the cost isn&#039;t so high, to personnel: you hang onto some good young Knicks talent, and you get a scorer who can complement and supplement Amare.

I do think the Knicks need to pick up a back up point guard. Felton needs to get a blow. TD doesn&#039;t feel reliable at the point, although his back injury is affecting his play, so it may not be fair to assess him just yet.
So I would cut Mason...or Walker, and then go for a back up point. Is there anyone available that...]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-303855" rel="nofollow">Frank</a></strong>: Re: the Melo issue – I was one of the major proponents of getting Melo earlier, but watching this team play, I don’t think he’d be a great fit. We have our high usage scorer in Amare. We have 3 medium-high usage guys that score relatively efficiently when Amare’s not in the game – Gallo, Chandler, Felton. .&nbsp;&nbsp;<a title="Click here or select text to quote comment" href="void(null)" rel="nofollow"></a>(Quote)
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<p>Frank:<br />
I agree that we don&#8217;t need to trade for Melo, and I too was a fan of getting him before. I don&#8217;t like what it would cost the Knicks to get him.<br />
Currently, I like that we have a team with a focal point and then parts that complement&#8230;but I do fret about wear and tear on Amare. Having another big time offensive weapon like Melo would be valuable, giving the Knicks another top scorer when Amare is resting, but a trade, IMHO, would be too costly.<br />
Personally, I&#8217;d like to give Mosgov more time and keep a platoon of Turiaf and Mos for at least half of the season if not more. I think Mos will improve and become a valuable asset.<br />
Now, if the Knicks can get Melo as an FA, I&#8217;m all for it. Then the cost isn&#8217;t so high, to personnel: you hang onto some good young Knicks talent, and you get a scorer who can complement and supplement Amare.</p>
<p>I do think the Knicks need to pick up a back up point guard. Felton needs to get a blow. TD doesn&#8217;t feel reliable at the point, although his back injury is affecting his play, so it may not be fair to assess him just yet.<br />
So I would cut Mason&#8230;or Walker, and then go for a back up point. Is there anyone available that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: latke</title>
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		<dc:creator>latke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 19:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-303850&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ess&#045;dog&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: -Karl wants to stay on as coach but not to “rebuild”
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Then why do they keep insisting on getting draft picks?]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-303850" rel="nofollow">ess&#045;dog</a></strong>: -Karl wants to stay on as coach but not to “rebuild”
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<p>Then why do they keep insisting on getting draft picks?</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 18:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-303853&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-303853&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mike&#032;Kurylo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: I’ve thought of having a forum that is separate from the web page. Unfortunately the last time I implemented such a piece, it was a disaster for both the web site &amp; the forum. I’d consider it again, but would need to find a way to make it work.

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Unfortunately I found the forum format to be less focused than the current system. There may have been 3-4 ongoing threads but they didn&#039;t seem to be particularly active -- diffused the whole experience.

I love the recent comments function on the right side of the home page -- would it be helpful to add in a &quot;recently active threads&quot; or some such thing?  Just thinking out loud.

Re: the Melo issue - I was one of the major proponents of getting Melo earlier, but watching this team play, I don&#039;t think he&#039;d be a great fit.  We have our high usage scorer in Amare.  We have 3 medium-high usage guys that score relatively efficiently when Amare&#039;s not in the game - Gallo, Chandler, Felton. Problem is that Amare, while dominating on the offensive end, has just horrible +/- on the defensive end:

http://www.82games.com/1011/10NYK12.HTM#onoff

What we really need much more than more offense is more interior defense.  While Melo is average-to-above average on defense, he&#039;s certainly no better than Chandler guarding 3s, and Chandler can at least not be a liability guarding most 1s-4s.  I&#039;d love to see Varejao or Samuel Dalembert here -- Dalembert is expiring and is injured/playing badly now, so maybe a reasonable chance to buy low? I&#039;m not sure who we&#039;d have to give up for him though.]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-303853" rel="nofollow">Mike&#032;Kurylo</a></strong>: I’ve thought of having a forum that is separate from the web page. Unfortunately the last time I implemented such a piece, it was a disaster for both the web site &amp; the forum. I’d consider it again, but would need to find a way to make it work.</p>
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<p>Unfortunately I found the forum format to be less focused than the current system. There may have been 3-4 ongoing threads but they didn&#8217;t seem to be particularly active &#8212; diffused the whole experience.</p>
<p>I love the recent comments function on the right side of the home page &#8212; would it be helpful to add in a &#8220;recently active threads&#8221; or some such thing?  Just thinking out loud.</p>
<p>Re: the Melo issue &#8211; I was one of the major proponents of getting Melo earlier, but watching this team play, I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;d be a great fit.  We have our high usage scorer in Amare.  We have 3 medium-high usage guys that score relatively efficiently when Amare&#8217;s not in the game &#8211; Gallo, Chandler, Felton. Problem is that Amare, while dominating on the offensive end, has just horrible +/- on the defensive end:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.82games.com/1011/10NYK12.HTM#onoff" rel="nofollow">http://www.82games.com/1011/10NYK12.HTM#onoff</a></p>
<p>What we really need much more than more offense is more interior defense.  While Melo is average-to-above average on defense, he&#8217;s certainly no better than Chandler guarding 3s, and Chandler can at least not be a liability guarding most 1s-4s.  I&#8217;d love to see Varejao or Samuel Dalembert here &#8212; Dalembert is expiring and is injured/playing badly now, so maybe a reasonable chance to buy low? I&#8217;m not sure who we&#8217;d have to give up for him though.</p>
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		<title>By: taggart4800</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 18:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would like to say i am not overly enamoured (if that is the correct spelling) with Melo but you have to figure in the same way the chase for LeBron was enevitable so is the chase for Melo. DW would be stupid to not trade for Melo.
My real point that there is a very slim chance that we are able to afford chandler when we do sign melo and because of this we may as well trade him to the nuggets so we can keep other pieces. I would LOVE to see him on the team next year, he is one of my favourite cureent knicks. He just isn&#039;t going to be though unless we, for better or worse, miss out on Melo.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to say i am not overly enamoured (if that is the correct spelling) with Melo but you have to figure in the same way the chase for LeBron was enevitable so is the chase for Melo. DW would be stupid to not trade for Melo.<br />
My real point that there is a very slim chance that we are able to afford chandler when we do sign melo and because of this we may as well trade him to the nuggets so we can keep other pieces. I would LOVE to see him on the team next year, he is one of my favourite cureent knicks. He just isn&#8217;t going to be though unless we, for better or worse, miss out on Melo.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Kurylo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Kurylo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 17:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve thought of having a forum that is separate from the web page. Unfortunately the last time I implemented such a piece, it was a disaster for both the web site &amp; the forum. I&#039;d consider it again, but would need to find a way to make it work. 

BTW Ted Nelson must be gone, because per-game stats are creeping into the comments.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve thought of having a forum that is separate from the web page. Unfortunately the last time I implemented such a piece, it was a disaster for both the web site &#038; the forum. I&#8217;d consider it again, but would need to find a way to make it work. </p>
<p>BTW Ted Nelson must be gone, because per-game stats are creeping into the comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Abasi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abasi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 16:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On the Ted Nelson topic:

I really don&#039;t miss him because he often appeared more interested in displaying his familiarity (not necessarily expertise) with all sorts of stats than in finding the truth about basketball issues. He would often &quot;pad&quot; his arguments with hypotheticals: &quot;yes, Gallinari is shooting poorly, but IF he had not missed the last 3 attempts he would be within his normal shooting range&quot; - well, if my grandmother had a moustache, she would be my grandfather!

And Ted could be very rough on his &quot;opponents&quot;, but couldn&#039;t take the heat when the going got rough - as several posters have noted.

Bottom line is we should all be grateful we have this little corner to discuss the knicks and not take anything too seriously or personal. It&#039;s about having fun with our favorite team. Entertainment and nothing else.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the Ted Nelson topic:</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t miss him because he often appeared more interested in displaying his familiarity (not necessarily expertise) with all sorts of stats than in finding the truth about basketball issues. He would often &#8220;pad&#8221; his arguments with hypotheticals: &#8220;yes, Gallinari is shooting poorly, but IF he had not missed the last 3 attempts he would be within his normal shooting range&#8221; &#8211; well, if my grandmother had a moustache, she would be my grandfather!</p>
<p>And Ted could be very rough on his &#8220;opponents&#8221;, but couldn&#8217;t take the heat when the going got rough &#8211; as several posters have noted.</p>
<p>Bottom line is we should all be grateful we have this little corner to discuss the knicks and not take anything too seriously or personal. It&#8217;s about having fun with our favorite team. Entertainment and nothing else.</p>
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		<title>By: ess-dog</title>
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		<dc:creator>ess-dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 16:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: Melo,

You all seem to be forgetting that if there is a Melo deal involving us, there is a 95% chance that it will be a 3 or 4 way deal.
-Nuggs are on record as saying they don&#039;t like our pieces
-Karl wants to stay on as coach but not to &quot;rebuild&quot;
-players they have shown interest in include seasoned players like AI2, AK47 and Kevin Love.

Most likely you&#039;d see an AR/Curry/Gallo, AR/Curry/Chandler, AR/Curry/Fields combo going to Philly with Iggy going to Denver.  We might have to give a pick to Denver as well.
Doesn&#039;t really seem worth it.  If Melo absolutely can&#039;t be swayed to go elsewhere and no one else will rent him for the rest of the year, then maybe we can lowball with something like AR/Curry/TD.
Maybe he can be talked into the Clips with Griffin there?  If I&#039;m the Clips, I offer anyone but Griffin.  They could also use the same 3 way trade with Philly using Kaman, Aminu and Gordon...
Whatever happens it should be interesting...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Melo,</p>
<p>You all seem to be forgetting that if there is a Melo deal involving us, there is a 95% chance that it will be a 3 or 4 way deal.<br />
-Nuggs are on record as saying they don&#8217;t like our pieces<br />
-Karl wants to stay on as coach but not to &#8220;rebuild&#8221;<br />
-players they have shown interest in include seasoned players like AI2, AK47 and Kevin Love.</p>
<p>Most likely you&#8217;d see an AR/Curry/Gallo, AR/Curry/Chandler, AR/Curry/Fields combo going to Philly with Iggy going to Denver.  We might have to give a pick to Denver as well.<br />
Doesn&#8217;t really seem worth it.  If Melo absolutely can&#8217;t be swayed to go elsewhere and no one else will rent him for the rest of the year, then maybe we can lowball with something like AR/Curry/TD.<br />
Maybe he can be talked into the Clips with Griffin there?  If I&#8217;m the Clips, I offer anyone but Griffin.  They could also use the same 3 way trade with Philly using Kaman, Aminu and Gordon&#8230;<br />
Whatever happens it should be interesting&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Abasi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abasi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 16:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Knicks need more defense than offense at this point. simple observation and advanced/basic stats would confirm it. Carmelo Anthony&#039;s positive impact on offense would be more than offset by the continued lack of defense and the lack of flexibility cap-wise.

And yes, I agree with Nick C.: the team is playing better and the talk is about somehow &quot;going Isiah&quot; on this promising squad. Doesn&#039;t make much sense to me...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Knicks need more defense than offense at this point. simple observation and advanced/basic stats would confirm it. Carmelo Anthony&#8217;s positive impact on offense would be more than offset by the continued lack of defense and the lack of flexibility cap-wise.</p>
<p>And yes, I agree with Nick C.: the team is playing better and the talk is about somehow &#8220;going Isiah&#8221; on this promising squad. Doesn&#8217;t make much sense to me&#8230;</p>
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