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Saturday, August 30, 2014

Knicks 115, Bucks 94: A Successful Saturday Matinée

Milwaukee Bucks 94 FinalRecap | Box Score 115 New York Knicks
Amar’e Stoudemire, PF 26 MIN | 6-13 FG | 3-4 FT | 6 REB | 1 AST | 0 STL | 1 BLK | 1 TO | 15 PTS | +14STAT failed to finish around the rim in the opening half, squandering a couple of chances for an emphatic, time-warping throw-down. Even though we were graced with his penchant for “my bad,” defensive hiccups, and the ball was slippedy slidin’ all over the joint on offense to start, he managed to gather himself and put forth a more-or-less friendly day at the office. Aside from struggling to cover the likes of Ramon Sessions and Khris Middleton in switching scenarios, the third quarter served as the canvas for a pair of industrious three-point plays from Amar’e (as part of a stretch of eight straight points). Ultimately, it’s pleasing in the simplest of ways to see him on the court and enjoying basketball…even if it is against the Washington Generals.

Carmelo Anthony, SF 33 MIN | 8-16 FG | 6-6 FT | 7 REB | 1 AST | 0 STL | 2 BLK | 3 TO | 23 PTS | +19In a less-than-surprising turn of events, the Knicks kickstarted the game with a Melo isolation play. The ISO-ing was a tad heavy to begin with, but that corrected itself as the game chugged along. Incredibly, this is the 43rd time this season that Anthony has amassed at least seven rebounds in a game; a testament to his hustle and the development as a player. Perhaps more importantly, though, a blowout of the bumbling Bucks offered just the fourth chance in the past six weeks for Melo to play fewer than 35 minutes.

Tyson Chandler, C 25 MIN | 1-2 FG | 0-0 FT | 5 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 2 PTS | +18Chatter! Communication! A vague semblance of cohesion! Defense! Chandler delivered an authoritative, stabilizing (and loud) voice on the defensive end, especially in the first half. Barking, shouting Tyson really is the best Tyson. Please show up more, this particular Tyson, even if all of your woofing doesn’t show up in the final stat line.

Raymond Felton, PG 23 MIN | 4-6 FG | 0-0 FT | 2 REB | 2 AST | 0 STL | 1 BLK | 1 TO | 9 PTS | +13The pleasantly plucky penguin premiered with a peck of perfect drop-offs and pretty passes, yet early foul trouble had him pegged him to the pine for prodigious periods over the first 24 minutes (okay, stopping). He managed to connect from beyond the arc (1 of 2) and is actually…wait for it…6-14 (42.9%) from downtown during this six-game streak. Nonetheless, Nate Wolters still netted 15 points via some efficient shooting and steady play, and Ray isn’t entirely without blame for that.

J.R. Smith, SG 23 MIN | 5-7 FG | 3-3 FT | 8 REB | 4 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 15 PTS | +18Earl continued to do Earl-like things, splashing from outside and adding a pinch of spice to the occasionally stale Knickerbocker offensive cocktail. This included zipping a nifty bounce pass to Amar’e in a pick-and-roll setup that was followed by a dainty twirl that would have made Nijinsky proud. Oh, and he went for a nonchalant Saturday gallop after a made three at the beginning of the third. This is the fourth time in the last six games that he’s handed out at least four dimes, and he is an aggregate +77 in that span, which is nice.

Iman Shumpert, SG 27 MIN | 5-12 FG | 2-2 FT | 4 REB | 4 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 14 PTS | -2The skeleton of Shump (his soul vanished sometime between late October and mid-December, replaced with some very Knicks-ian nihilism) actually scored 14 points, marking the first time since February 9 at Oklahoma City that he has reached double figures. Oddly enough, he was the only Knick to register a negative +/-. Shump got a tad tip-jam happy (if that is a thing) late, soaring to the rim twice in quick succession in an attempt to throw back to his throwdown in last season’s Indiana series. Alas, it was not to be. No cause for somber reflection, though. I’m still giggling at hi banked-in corner three in the first half.

Tim Hardaway Jr., SG 25 MIN | 8-12 FG | 2-3 FT | 1 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 1 BLK | 2 TO | 20 PTS | +4Apparently Hardaway Jr. was not really in the mood to miss a shot. Not to start with, anyway. Furious fast break and intricate half court finishes at the rim were the appetizers to the usual entrée of sweet, sweet perimeter shooting. He even recorded a swat (!!!) while guarding Wolters on a drive in the fourth. This was THJ’s third straight game with at least 20. Lagging, sputtering defensive concentration notwithstanding, what’s not to like about the rookie’s season?

Three Things We Saw

  1. The Bucks are still the Bucks, sadly. They are now 13-53, genuinely jostling with Philadelphia for the league’s worst record/all the ping pong balls. Yes, there’s merit in the strategy. It just can’t be that much fun to watch.
  2. The Knicks scored 60 points in the first half, meaning that they are yet to have a first half with fewer than 58 points at any stage during the GOING STREAKING streak. Although the offense looks to have regained a cohesion and fluidity, it’s tough to be too enthused, given the opponents. Minnesota is the only above .500 team they’ve knocked off and even then, the Wolves were a mere game over an even record.
  3. As mind-numbingly bad as Milwaukee’s played, all hope is not lost. The Greek Freak is the unofficial darling of hoop enthusiasts everywhere, obviously, but it was the understated effort of Nate Wolters that caught my attention. Meaningless in a game such as this, no doubt. Prior to today, nonetheless, Wolters had logged 1200 arduous minutes on this 13-52 Bucks squad with a respectable -11 (all things considered). Kudos to Patrick Gallagher for highlighting that on Twitter.

38 comments on “Knicks 115, Bucks 94: A Successful Saturday Matinée

  1. maxwell_3g

    clyde…………….and willis……………in the club…………….with go-go dancers…………….in cages!!!!!!!!!!

  2. Kahnzy

    clyde…………….and willis……………in the club…………….with go-go dancers…………….in cages!!!!!!!!!!

    JR was born 30 years too late.

  3. maxwell_3g

    clyde…………….and willis……………in the club…………….with go-go dancers…………….in cages!!!!!!!!!!

    JR was born 30 years too late.

    i was really rooting for a timeout as that story was going on. i had a feeling how that story ended in real life, and I didnt want clyde to be fired

  4. Z-man

    So here’s a question for the KB community. Given that the realistic high water mark for this year’s Knicks team was a second round exit, it is safe to say that Woodson and the current management would have been retained for next year had that panned out. If we went back to the beginning of the season, and you were offered the choice of making it to the second round and getting eliminated by the Heat or Pacers, or not making the playoffs and signing Phil Jackson to a 5-year contract, what would you choose?

  5. JK47

    If we went back to the beginning of the season, and you were offered the choice of making it to the second round and getting eliminated by the Heat or Pacers, or not making the playoffs and signing Phil Jackson to a 5-year contract, what would you choose?

    Well, the latter scenario certainly seems preferable, because the promise of a better future certainly seems a lot more appealing than a present with a not-so-satisfying ceiling. But who knows? Two or three years from now we could all be cursing the day Phil Jackson signed on to come here.

  6. Kahnzy

    But who knows? Two or three years from now we could all be cursing the day Phil Jackson signed on to come here.

    It’ll probably still be better than spending the next two or three years begging Dolan to let someone with a basketball clue take over.

  7. Brian Cronin

    So here’s a question for the KB community. Given that the realistic high water mark for this year’s Knicks team was a second round exit, it is safe to say that Woodson and the current management would have been retained for next year had that panned out. If we went back to the beginning of the season, and you were offered the choice of making it to the second round and getting eliminated by the Heat or Pacers, or not making the playoffs and signing Phil Jackson to a 5-year contract, what would you choose?

    Excellent question. Hmmm…I think I’d still choose a second round exit over missing the playoffs and getting Jackson. I like the latter scenario, I just really, really like it when the Knicks win playoff series.

  8. Brian Cronin

    Faried misses two free throws but Denver gets the rebound off the second miss and now he scores and gets a three-point play for the lead!

  9. Brian Cronin

    Pero Antic just hit an INSANE shot. Ugh. A fadeaway 21-footer (just inside the line) with the shot clock running out! A terrible shot that went in. Double ugh.

    The scorekeepers have the wrong score right now. It’s 93-92 Hawks but the score says 94-92.

  10. Brian Cronin

    Wilson Chandler tried to answer the Antic shot with an insanely terrible three. Atlanta ball with 30 seconds left and a 1 point lead.

  11. Brian Cronin

    30 seconds with the ball and up 1, Atlanta isolates Teague. That’s the point. Every team isolates at the end of games.

  12. Brian Cronin

    Teague missed the second of two free throws but Atlanta got the rebound!! Ugh! Now Korver is on the line with a chance to put the Hawks up 4.

  13. er

    Wow, another horrible win by Atl…..Pero Antic hit a fadeaway contested long two. Knicks wont make the playoffs. Hawks keep pulling games out of their arse.

  14. Brian Cronin

    Other team’s announcers just make me so happy that we get to listen to Breen and Clyde.

  15. Brian Cronin

    Dammit, Denver. The Knicks didn’t need need this loss but they sure as fuck could have used it.

  16. BigBlueAL

    I really want the Knicks to make the playoffs but they have dug such a deep hole and even with as bad as the Hawks have played lately the Knicks are still 5 back in the loss column.

    The Knicks have 15 games left and to make the playoffs they probably have to go at least 11-4 if not better.

  17. Brian Cronin

    Well, I had two things recording on my DVR at 10:00 PM so this at least saved me the trouble of having to delete a recording.

  18. danielbubbs1

    hawks still haven’t lost a game they’re “supposed” to in this final push that started since last 3 or 4 games for knicks (tonight was 50/50) …anyway, knicks need to go 13-2 to make it, is what it seems.

  19. er

    Man…. This Knicks team the way they are playing should not lose a game the rest of the month. We saw them last year have multiple 10+ game win streaks, when they get rolling they get rolling like an 18 wheeler going down hill

  20. Brian Cronin

    “I’m a chess player. That was a power move right there. You know what I mean?” Anthony said. “So, now we’re going to see what’s the next move, but that was a great power move.”

    I mean, I believe he has, indeed, played chess, but it’s still funny to see Melo refer to himself as “a chess player.”

  21. Brian Cronin

    hawks still haven’t lost a game they’re “supposed” to in this final push that started since last 3 or 4 games for knicks (tonight was 50/50) …anyway, knicks need to go 13-2 to make it, is what it seems.

    Did you mean to have a “won” after ‘supposed’ to?

  22. danielbubbs1

    Did you mean to have a “won” after ‘supposed’ to?

    yeah, turned that around i guess….three close wins for them against utah, the bucks and tonight against denver (i pegged that game as a win for them)….rest of the way, they “should lose” (a) Charlotte, (h) Toronto, (a)Toronto, (h)Phoenix, (a) Minn, (h) Portland, (a) Washington, (h) Chicago, (a) Indiana, (a) Brooklyn, (h)Miami….

    so that’s 11 games they won’t be favored in at least. Say they go 2-9 in those games, and 6-1 in the others – which is 8-10 the rest of the way…

    So Knicks would have to go 11-4.

    not impossible. hope they do it.

  23. dtrickey

    Other team’s announcers just make me so happy that we get to listen to Breen and Clyde.

    Could not agree more! It’s always frustrating on away games that are NBA TV broadcasts and you get the home team commentary and can’t switch commentary on League Pass. The two muppets in Clevland are the worst. Some are more fans calling the game than sportscasters.

    It’s a little annoying that we need to rely on Atlanta to lose, but you make you’re own luck in sports and we’re doing the right things (albeit far too late) to make our own luck.

    Good win tonight too. Nice to wake up this morning and watch a win in an early start than another pantsing. Timmy has been one of the few bright spots that us fans can cling too.

  24. dtrickey

    So here’s a question for the KB community. Given that the realistic high water mark for this year’s Knicks team was a second round exit, it is safe to say that Woodson and the current management would have been retained for next year had that panned out. If we went back to the beginning of the season, and you were offered the choice of making it to the second round and getting eliminated by the Heat or Pacers, or not making the playoffs and signing Phil Jackson to a 5-year contract, what would you choose?

    Great question. As a fan you always want your team to be playing in the post season so I would be inclined to take the 2nd round exit at the start of the season. I say that because we would have likely been bounced by Miami or Indiana, which really is no disgrace IMO. I think if were to ask this question 2 weeks ago and change 2nd round exit to 1st, you would take signing Phil. Sometimes you need to go backwards to go forwards.

  25. tastycakes

    You know, I’m enjoying THJ’s play for sure, and think he was a heck of a find late in the draft… but isn’t anyone else concerned that he’s utterly, completely one-dimensional? Scoring’s pretty important and all, but he’s a guard averaging less than an assist per game, he doesn’t rebound, doesn’t defend all that well.

    I mean, I’d take him over most of the bums on the roster just due to the possibility of growth along those other axes, just sayin’ it’s not all there yet.

  26. Brian Cronin

    Sure, I think everyone is concerned that he is extremely one-dimensional. But in the NBA, it’s rare to get players who are exceptional at any dimension, ya know? So you sort of take the bad with the good and hope he improves on his other dimensions.

  27. Brian Cronin

    From Chris Herring:

    Chandler, on the consistent rotations: “Everyone knows when they’re going in and when they’re coming out. … It’s been really good for us.”

    In other words, “It’s been really good for us to know that Bargs is not in the rotation.”

  28. Kahnzy

    In other words, “It’s been really good for us to know that Bargs is not in the rotation.”

    And I’ve heard nary a word on when he’ll be coming back. Anyone else find that odd?

  29. Brian Cronin

    The lead in the loss column could be three by the Knicks’ next game on Wednesday. The Knicks really can’t afford to have Atlanta beat either Charlotte or Toronto (especially as they are back-to-back games). I think if they beat either team, it will be extremely difficult for the Knicks to make up the loss margin.

  30. coyle022

    If they can chop the deficit down to 1-2 games with like 5 or 6 left I think that’s reasonable. However the April schedule is brutal so in this upcoming stretch the Knicks should really be able to tie or at least have the deficit at like 1.5-2.5 games going into the final stretch of the season. Hopefully they are like 1 out with 4-5 to play or even tied with 3/4 games to play.

  31. tastycakes

    I sincerely hope that I never see Bargnani play another game as a Knick.

    Also, guys, this team ain’t making the playoffs! I mean, I’m still rooting for it, for some strange reason.. the Indiana game will be interesting, see if this strong play of late is just a mirage borne out of crap opposition.

  32. Brian Cronin

    The odds are still against them making the playoffs, but it is still a real possibility. The chances will really determine on A. Whether, as you note, if the strong ply isn’t just a mirage borne out of crap opposition and B. Whether Atlanta just flat out collapses these last few weeks.

  33. Tony Pena

    Brian Cronin:
    Sure, I think everyone is concerned that he is extremely one-dimensional. But in the NBA, it’s rare to get players who are exceptional at any dimension, ya know? So you sort of take the bad with the good and hope he improves on his other dimensions.

    Great way to put it.

  34. Tony Pena

    Bargs-
    It’s the combination of: 11 mil per, average to mediocre play, perceived ‘Stretch’ value on court, Woody’s reluctance to bench him. It’s better if he sits down. And I agree, I got a hunch he mailed the season in.

  35. mase

    i disagree with the Bargs ‘phoning in the season’, i’d say the entire team had phoned it in… i’d like to see him in the postseason if we got there, he can still score and defense have to pay attention to him.. he also gets to the line…ideally if we can platoon him with amare, the same way woody has iman and THjr working, we can get solid production out of him.
    also need kenyon for the postseason if we make it

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