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Tuesday, September 16, 2014

Knickerblogger Question of the Day: If Carmelo Anthony Re-Signs With the Knicks, How Much Money Will He Re-Sign For?

Sam Amico of Fox Sports had the following two tweets yesterday:

In talking w several execs today, consensus is LeBron, Wade, Bosh all re-up w #Heat. Doesn’t mean it happens. But that’s general consensus.

Most execs feel Carmelo returns to #Knicks as well. Biggest name available could be Pau Gasol. “Never know tho. Lots can change,” exec says.

I’d like to believe that the executive in question made it clear that he was saying specifically the word “tho.”

The league executives are almost certainly correct. So that leads to our question of the day – How much money will Carmelo Anthony re-sign for if he re-signs with the Knicks (rough estimates, of course)? Give your answer in the comments section below!

36 comments on “Knickerblogger Question of the Day: If Carmelo Anthony Re-Signs With the Knicks, How Much Money Will He Re-Sign For?

  1. swiftandabundant

    If we keep Melo, I like the idea of bringing in some former Lakers to help implement the Triangle.

    I think we should try to let Amare ride out the last year of his contract. He was healthy all year, probably the biggest positive from this wasted year along with Hardaway. I think with a minutes limit per game and resting him sometimes on back to backs, we can limit the possibility of him getting injured and I feel like STAT has transformed his game in a way where he doesn’t have to rely on his athleticism and only uses it in bursts when the opportunity is available. I know he’s not great defensively, but I also saw him doing some things this year, like taking charges, that showed me that he cares about getting better. He’s just a good dude to have on a team bc even at his age he has not given up on improving. I think that rubs off on teammates.

    So I like the idea of getting Odom, Gasol and bringing back Artest. Use those 3 plus Shannon Brown to help implement the Triangle. Then look to trade Chandler (maybe to OKC) for some draft picks or young players or a promising PG/defensive combo guard who can hit open shots.

    Roll with STAT, Gasol, Odom, Cole and Tyler as your big men next year. Use Artest as a real back up to Melo at the 3. Keep Shump, Hardaway and JR as your SGs and Pablo as the back up PG. Hopefully Murry can develop in the off season and we’ve netted a draft pick and/or some young players via a Chandler trade and/or also got rid of Felton. But Felton too could also have a bounce back season. Not saying he’s great but he had a lot of bad stuff happening to him off the court that I think really affected him.

    If we are able to do this and get say Kerr as the coach (with Phil mentoring him and the team), I think with the East being weak we can be the 4th or 5th seed next year. Then we reload big time in 2015.

  2. chrisk06811

    How exactly would we afford Gasol?

    I’m wondering if Melo’s recently injured shoulder has any impact on his decision and the $$ he gets.

  3. Brian Cronin Post author

    The “Gasol might take the mini-MLE!” stuff sounds like the sort of pipe dream we used to traffic in back in the early 2000s (myself included, don’t get me wrong). “Chris Webber will come sign with the Knicks for the MLE!”

  4. BKQuick

    Didn’t the Knicks play and win a game last night? I know it’s meaningless but I got the impression from the highlights that Murray played some minutes…

    It would be nice to hear how the offense/defense looked without Melo. Also, did Brooklyn play a lot of thier starters? Does this count as a quality win against a playoff bound opponent?

  5. mase

    Where does bargs fit in Phil’s knicks?
    Doesn’t sound like anywhere if we are signing odom

  6. Nick C.

    I think Melo signs for whatever the max is. He’s not taking a discount to punt away and sounds, perhaps as a negotiating ploy, meh regarding Jackson.

    As for the team, I sooooo hope we hire a coach and implement a policy of looking beyond the stereotypical notion of a basketball player. I think in part Jackson will cut out he CAA influence so that will go a long way. But, young guys, foreign (non #1 pick) guys, white guys, asian guys, tatless guys, D league guys, guys with KidnPlay haircuts, etc. should all be given a fair shake.

  7. Brian Cronin Post author

    I read “tatless” initially as “fatless,” and I thought you meant “point guards other than Raymond Felton.”

  8. Donnie Walsh

    Is Josh Smith a triangle-type player? (He seems kind of Odom-esque as a forward who fancied himself a guard once, no?)

    I ask that in seriousness. Mainly because if Melo stays, he is the closest thing the Knicks can get to a “second star” pairing to compete next year.

  9. JK47

    Melo will only come back here for the max.

    The idea of Melo as this team-first guy who is going to make personal sacrifices so the Knicks can be a better team is ludicrous. He’ll say “I just want to win” but at the same time he’ll insist on getting paid that crippling mega-max contract. This is why Melo is so infuriating– he is the perfect example of the guy who wants to have his cake and eat it too.

    I’ll be shocked if he comes back for a penny under the mega-max.

  10. Nick C.

    I read “tatless” initially as “fatless,” and I thought you meant “point guards other than Raymond Felton.”

    I think that would have worked if you thought it read “titless” as well. lol

  11. ephus

    I think that Carmelo Anthony will resign with the Knicks, and he will take a discount off of the 5 year/$129 million maximum deal he could get. The most he could get from another team is 4 years/$95 million. Something like 5 year/$103 million makes sense and maximizes the cap space for the summer of 2015.

    2014: $20 MM
    2015: $18.5 MM
    2016: $20 MM
    2017: $21.5 MM
    2018: $23 MM (player option)

  12. er

    Melo will only come back here for the max.

    The idea of Melo as this team-first guy who is going to make personal sacrifices so the Knicks can be a better team is ludicrous. He’ll say “I just want to win” but at the same time he’ll insist on getting paid that crippling mega-max contract. This is why Melo is so infuriating– he is the perfect example of the guy who wants to have his cake and eat it too.

    And you know this how?

  13. ephus

    Herb Kohl is selling the Bucks (with a guarantee that the team stays in Milwaukee) for $550 million.

    Owners crushed the NBPA in the last lockout. Team values have soared. Shinn could not get $318 MM for the Hornets in 2009, so the NBA stepped in as a bridge buyer. In 2010, the NBA sold the Hornets to Benson for $338 million.

    When thinking about the Carmelo Anthony contract, remember that the players or owners can re-open the CBA in the summer of 2017.

  14. thenoblefacehumper

    Where does bargs fit in Phil’s knicks?
    Doesn’t sound like anywhere if we are signing odom

    Who cares?

  15. Nick C.

    I think we tried the reunite a good team 5 years after the fact with the Nuggets, do we really want to fantasize about re-uniting the 2010 or whatever Lakers in 2015? The best thing about Phil Jackson for me is the potential to think outside the box (and the gravitas to keep Dolan out of the decision making process). This team has been doing the retreads or one season past their prime thing for decades (Kiki, Blackman, Rivers all the way to the present). One or two of those players is good more for leadership or so this seasons implosion would lead me to believe.

  16. DRed

    I’m fine with one of Odom, Artest or Gasol for no real money as a triangle principles player coach, but all 3 is ridiculous. 2 are old, declining and injury prone and the other has serious drug problems.

  17. lavor postell

    I’m certain that Mark Jackson will not be coaching the New York Knicks as long as Phil Jackson is in charge. He wants a coach who can most importantly run the triangle and failing that somebody with a concrete system who at the minimum will implement elements of the triangle. In what I’ve seen Jackson’s offensive system is pretty much let Stephen Curry handle the ball and make shit happen.

    I really hope we trade Chandler this summer and give him his wish. For a guy who was brought in to be a leader and defensive anchor he really has done neither this season and bitching about not wanting to waste another season is really funny considering his “effort” this year. He needs a change of scenery and we could use whatever assets he would bring back in trade.

  18. er

    Chandler has become the most unlikeable Knick IMO. He is all bark and rarely bites. The rest of the guys may suck in some aspects but they dont call people out without looking in the mirror except for stat once in a while

  19. ephus

    Chandler has become the most unlikeable Knick IMO.

    Strong words on a team with Bargnani, JR Smith and a guy under felony indictment.

  20. Owen

    Chandler unlikeable? Ridiculous.

    Also ridiculous, the notion of bringing Josh Smith in, a la bargnani. But it probably is inevitable he ends up a Knick.

  21. lavor postell

    Phil Jackson isn’t bringing Josh Smith to the Knicks. I get that we’ve made a ton of stupid trades and personnel decisions over the years, but this is an intelligent guy who’s won 11 rings and has been successful in every stop of his career. There’s a chance he’s a complete and utter failure as the president of basketball operations of the Knicks, but if he is I don’t think it will be because he thought trading for Josh Smith was a really good idea to help us win a championship.

    What have you liked about watching Chandler this season? JR, Bargnani and Felton all are disliked for their various and very present flaws as basketball players. Chandler has flaws too like the inability to do anything offensively other than finish high PNR alley-oops, but the only reason people here have a dislike for him is his completely non-existent effort during the majority of the season. I get that we have a lot of awful defensive players that make his life hard, but how many times did we watch Chandler just watch a player blow by him for an uncontested dunk?

    This is a guy who made $14.5m this season and was pretty quick to throw people under the bus when things looked grim. The coaching, personnel and defensive scheme didn’t do him any favors, but nobody on this pathetic team gave less effort more consistently than Tyson Chandler. He’s still a good player and probably needs to have his minutes restricted at this point in his career. I think it would be mutually beneficial to move him this summer.

    Btw I’m certain he’s going to go balls to the wall next season in his contract year.

  22. er

    Strong words on a team with Bargnani, JR Smith and a guy under felony indictment

    Noted. But im more talking about on court play. JR is dumb so i dont really hold it against him. Bargnani just sucks

    Chandler unlikeable? Ridiculous.

    There are quite a few Knick fans i know that despise him. So im not making this up

  23. maxwell_3g

    i cant believe that i am typing this, and I fully expect to get this thrown back in my face, but JR has truly been one of the most likable Knicks for the last 30 games IMO. I feel that he has legitamately played hard down the stretch

  24. Brian Cronin Post author

    It is immature of Chandler to throw his coach under the bus because he hates the way that the coach is using him, but that’s pretty much what every NBA star player does, so I don’t hold it against him. Just like I didn’t hold it against Melo when he did the same stuff against D’Antoni. The only difference between the two is that Melo was actually successful in getting his coach fired. Imagine if Melo had had to finish out the season back in 2012 with D’Antoni? Can you even imagine what that would have looked like? Yiiiikes.

  25. DRed

    With the caveats that Tyson has declined and I think we should try hard to trade him, he’s one of two Knicks regulars who plays defense. If he challenged every guy driving down the lane he’d foul out in the second quarter of every game. Stat, Felton, Bargs and Hardaway are horrific defenders, Melo can’t help on D much at the 4 because he’s too small, JR is bad and Pablo, while smart and game is like 50. Blaming the defense on Tyson’s “effort” is ridiculous.

  26. Brian Cronin Post author

    Oh yeah, I wanted to trade Chandler last season for Eric Bledsoe and DeAndre Jordan (what a deal that would have been!), so I certainly am down to trading him this offseason. Centers like Chandler don’t age well, so I’d have traded him last offseason, this season and I would trade him this offseason.

    But I also agree that while he is not as good as he once was, he’s still a strong defender. The system just absolutely wastes all of his skills, just as he himself clearly sees. He’d be better off elsewhere and the Knicks likely would be better off getting something for him now rather than losing him for nothing next offseason.

  27. er

    Blaming the defense on Tyson’s “effort” is ridiculous.

    I dont think anyone is doing that. The Defense was still bad when Chandler was awesome a few years ago. His effort is bad period.

  28. DRed

    Tyson’s broken leg and kitten-like immune system were problems. His on court play was one of the last things wrong with the Knicks this year. I mean, you’re all free to dislike him. But whatever his effort was, we had much bigger problems than Tyson.

  29. maxwell_3g

    i would love to see the knicks win tonight. get the raptors in the 4th sot and chicago in the third. miami was so pathetic trying to avoid them. and note the the nets are actively trying to avoid chicago in the first, knowing full well that they are steering themselves into a second round matchup with the heat. as is often with my basketball ramblings, the take home thought is …Fuck the heat

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