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	<title>Comments on: In Defense of Marbury: Usage Rate and the Ball-Hog</title>
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		<title>By: NGLI</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/in-defense-of-marbury-usage-rate-and-the-ball-hog/#comment-688</link>
		<dc:creator>NGLI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2005 00:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I actually think that the roster is decent.  Isiah has done a nice job of bringing in some young talent, and he&#039;ll probably dump 30 mil in expiring contracts by the trade deadline.  Marbury isn&#039;t even close to the problem, and he never has been.

Here&#039;s a trade that hasn&#039;t been proposed...

Lets trade LB for Flip.

With cash considerations.

And Jerome James for Darko.

And the next four years of 1st + 2nd round picks.

A one time league exception.  Start making some calls to the league office, Zeke.

Yeah, way to go LB.  Use every single player in the roster out of position.  Tell Steph not to shoot...or drive. Tell Q not to shoot 3&#039;s on the break.  Let Malik Rose shoot 10 bricks a night, and play Jackie Butler more than Eddy Curry...start Trevor Ariza over Q...and what was with starging Barnes???  It&#039;s like pure counterintuition on every level, from the rotations to the plays to the style of play.

The list of stupid coaching decisions is too long to list.  We should start a thread just on LB&#039;s mistakes.  It&#039;s just maddening...what more can I say?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually think that the roster is decent.  Isiah has done a nice job of bringing in some young talent, and he&#8217;ll probably dump 30 mil in expiring contracts by the trade deadline.  Marbury isn&#8217;t even close to the problem, and he never has been.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a trade that hasn&#8217;t been proposed&#8230;</p>
<p>Lets trade LB for Flip.</p>
<p>With cash considerations.</p>
<p>And Jerome James for Darko.</p>
<p>And the next four years of 1st + 2nd round picks.</p>
<p>A one time league exception.  Start making some calls to the league office, Zeke.</p>
<p>Yeah, way to go LB.  Use every single player in the roster out of position.  Tell Steph not to shoot&#8230;or drive. Tell Q not to shoot 3&#8242;s on the break.  Let Malik Rose shoot 10 bricks a night, and play Jackie Butler more than Eddy Curry&#8230;start Trevor Ariza over Q&#8230;and what was with starging Barnes???  It&#8217;s like pure counterintuition on every level, from the rotations to the plays to the style of play.</p>
<p>The list of stupid coaching decisions is too long to list.  We should start a thread just on LB&#8217;s mistakes.  It&#8217;s just maddening&#8230;what more can I say?</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Atwood</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/in-defense-of-marbury-usage-rate-and-the-ball-hog/#comment-657</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Atwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2005 09:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your a solution to this articles problem exist in one sentence. Tell me what you think b/c it could happen.  Ron Artest and Jamal Tinsley for Marbury and Q.  This trade would benefit both franchises b/c the Knicks need the &quot;D&quot; and a small forward and Pacers need to upgrade on the point guard position.  Am I crazy or could this be a legit trade?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your a solution to this articles problem exist in one sentence. Tell me what you think b/c it could happen.  Ron Artest and Jamal Tinsley for Marbury and Q.  This trade would benefit both franchises b/c the Knicks need the &#8220;D&#8221; and a small forward and Pacers need to upgrade on the point guard position.  Am I crazy or could this be a legit trade?</p>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/in-defense-of-marbury-usage-rate-and-the-ball-hog/#comment-650</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 22:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that this is one of the best articles that I have read on this website in a long time. I completely agree with Zannettis! Keep up the good work KnickerBlogger! I hope to see more of Zannettis&#039;s articles in the future!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that this is one of the best articles that I have read on this website in a long time. I completely agree with Zannettis! Keep up the good work KnickerBlogger! I hope to see more of Zannettis&#8217;s articles in the future!</p>
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		<title>By: SM</title>
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		<dc:creator>SM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 21:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey KB, I don&#039;t know if this is affecting all of the stats pages, but the Standings pages definitely aren&#039;t updating.  They still list the Knicks as 5-11 instead of 6-12, for example.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey KB, I don&#8217;t know if this is affecting all of the stats pages, but the Standings pages definitely aren&#8217;t updating.  They still list the Knicks as 5-11 instead of 6-12, for example.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 19:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[KB,
I agree that he prematurely chucked up a contested second to last shot; it was a bad decision. The subsequent and last shot looked exactly the same but for the fact that it went in. I would call this a bad decision too, but I find it hard to criticize a made FG in a clutch situation. I don&#039;t mean to sound like I&#039;m nit-picking, and last night&#039;s performance from Steph really makes this moot point. He was 3-16 from the field and was probably the difference between a win and a loss for the Knicks (and maybe also LB&#039;s decision to play Penny for 20+ minutes, DNP Ariza, and match up Robinson with Sam Cassel).
 
Nelson, you&#039;re post reminds me of that FedEx commercial where Joe Montana tells the office staff not to use football analogies. Good point though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KB,<br />
I agree that he prematurely chucked up a contested second to last shot; it was a bad decision. The subsequent and last shot looked exactly the same but for the fact that it went in. I would call this a bad decision too, but I find it hard to criticize a made FG in a clutch situation. I don&#8217;t mean to sound like I&#8217;m nit-picking, and last night&#8217;s performance from Steph really makes this moot point. He was 3-16 from the field and was probably the difference between a win and a loss for the Knicks (and maybe also LB&#8217;s decision to play Penny for 20+ minutes, DNP Ariza, and match up Robinson with Sam Cassel).</p>
<p>Nelson, you&#8217;re post reminds me of that FedEx commercial where Joe Montana tells the office staff not to use football analogies. Good point though.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Nelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 15:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My point there was that the Knicks might be better off working inside-out instead of outside-in. At the moment they&#039;re using the pass to set up the run even though they have two 1,500 yard rushers, a QB who has a gun but often runs it himself before going through all his reads and 6-5 WRs who run 4.1 40s but run terrible routes. They need to use their horses to open up the air attack and stop letting the offensive line (Davis and Rose) pass the ball.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My point there was that the Knicks might be better off working inside-out instead of outside-in. At the moment they&#8217;re using the pass to set up the run even though they have two 1,500 yard rushers, a QB who has a gun but often runs it himself before going through all his reads and 6-5 WRs who run 4.1 40s but run terrible routes. They need to use their horses to open up the air attack and stop letting the offensive line (Davis and Rose) pass the ball.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Nelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 15:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s no one to pass to? The Knicks have this one center who went 9-13 last night, scoring 24 points and grabbing 11 rebounds. He&#039;s shooting .535 on the year. And another bigman who went 3-4 putting up 6 points and 6 boards in only 17 minutes. He&#039;s shooting .527 on the year.
Passing the ball to those two guys doesn&#039;t sound like that bad an option to me:
The story is the frontcourt of Frye and Curry.
Then there are those three guys shooting above 35% from 3 point range: Craw (.412), Q (.364), and Nate (.357).

My biggest question:
Why last night, against the Clippers, did Robinson, Marbury, Crawford, and Hardaway combine to take almost 60% of the Knicks FGs with an AFG% of .250, while Frye and Curry took only 23% of the shots (the same % as Davis, Rose, and Hardaway) while posting an AFG% of .618.
In the 4th Frye and Curry went 2 for 3 and the 4 guards went 2 for 14. In this quarter the Clipps outscored the Knicks 29-16.



Has anyone noticed that Richardson&#039;s 3p% hasn&#039;t been below .350 since 2003 despite the fact that he&#039;s averaged over 7 3pt FGAs a game. The Knicks need Richardson to be a jump shooter. Between Marbury, Crawford, and Robinson they have enough guys who try (maybe too hard) to create their own shots. He still rebounds: his rebound rate (10.9) is only slightly lower than Davis, Rose, and Taylor&#039;s.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s no one to pass to? The Knicks have this one center who went 9-13 last night, scoring 24 points and grabbing 11 rebounds. He&#8217;s shooting .535 on the year. And another bigman who went 3-4 putting up 6 points and 6 boards in only 17 minutes. He&#8217;s shooting .527 on the year.<br />
Passing the ball to those two guys doesn&#8217;t sound like that bad an option to me:<br />
The story is the frontcourt of Frye and Curry.<br />
Then there are those three guys shooting above 35% from 3 point range: Craw (.412), Q (.364), and Nate (.357).</p>
<p>My biggest question:<br />
Why last night, against the Clippers, did Robinson, Marbury, Crawford, and Hardaway combine to take almost 60% of the Knicks FGs with an AFG% of .250, while Frye and Curry took only 23% of the shots (the same % as Davis, Rose, and Hardaway) while posting an AFG% of .618.<br />
In the 4th Frye and Curry went 2 for 3 and the 4 guards went 2 for 14. In this quarter the Clipps outscored the Knicks 29-16.</p>
<p>Has anyone noticed that Richardson&#8217;s 3p% hasn&#8217;t been below .350 since 2003 despite the fact that he&#8217;s averaged over 7 3pt FGAs a game. The Knicks need Richardson to be a jump shooter. Between Marbury, Crawford, and Robinson they have enough guys who try (maybe too hard) to create their own shots. He still rebounds: his rebound rate (10.9) is only slightly lower than Davis, Rose, and Taylor&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: KnickerBlogger</title>
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		<dc:creator>KnickerBlogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 14:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;KB said that Marbury?s ?last TWO trips down the court? (emphasis added) in the final minutes was ?bad decision making down the stretch.? My point is that while you can say what you want about Marbury?s overall game, taking him to task for missing a 20 footer and then converting a clutch bucket that helped his team win is unreasonable.&quot;

Did you see the second to last shot? IIRC Marbury didn&#039;t get a good look, and took the shot way too early in the shot clock when he had other options.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;KB said that Marbury?s ?last TWO trips down the court? (emphasis added) in the final minutes was ?bad decision making down the stretch.? My point is that while you can say what you want about Marbury?s overall game, taking him to task for missing a 20 footer and then converting a clutch bucket that helped his team win is unreasonable.&#8221;</p>
<p>Did you see the second to last shot? IIRC Marbury didn&#8217;t get a good look, and took the shot way too early in the shot clock when he had other options.</p>
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		<title>By: Kareem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kareem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 09:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I went to the Clippers game tonight, and although I know this may not be news to any of you, but Marbury  looks completely lost in his new offensive role.  However, that being said, the team actually looks much better than last year to me.  It actually looks like Brown is taking steps to make improvements as they looked like a team.  Granted, not a very good team, but a team.  A couple of other notes that may be obvious to those of you that see this team play all of the time:

-- Nate Robinson is a total zero.  That&#039;s not to say he won&#039;t get better, or that he is not talented, but right now he just sucks.  He isn&#039;t a reliable shooter, can&#039;t finish at the hoop, and gets KILLED on defense.  And I mean killed.  Any time he was matched against Cassell or Mobley it was a slaughter, either by taking him down to the blocks or just shooting right over him.  Still, if the goal is to get the young guys minutes then they can put him on the court when he has a mathcup he can handle (like when Eisly or Ewing were in the game for the Clips) and hope he improves enough offensivly to justify it.

-- The offense is not generating shots and guys (Marbury and Crawford) looked lost running it.  The only &quot;play&quot; the Knicks ran effectivly was that swing one where Marbury comes down and cross picks for Curry to let him get position in the post.  Other than that, they wern&#039;t even getting into their sets until the clock was down to 10 most times.  This could improve with Brown&#039;s guidance however.

-- On a related note, although the interior D looked good -- a really big front line when Antonio Davis and Taylor play next to Curry... Davis is really tough down there in particular -- the O really suffers with these guys in.  Either Frye needs to play or they need to figure out ways to get Crawford and Marbury shots within the offense. 

-- Why do they post Mo Taylor up so much?  They went to him like 5 times in the post.  

Overall, I think they&#039;ll improve, but without a major talent infusion, this team is going nowhere.  And with the payroll they have, that&#039;s unaceptable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went to the Clippers game tonight, and although I know this may not be news to any of you, but Marbury  looks completely lost in his new offensive role.  However, that being said, the team actually looks much better than last year to me.  It actually looks like Brown is taking steps to make improvements as they looked like a team.  Granted, not a very good team, but a team.  A couple of other notes that may be obvious to those of you that see this team play all of the time:</p>
<p>&#8211; Nate Robinson is a total zero.  That&#8217;s not to say he won&#8217;t get better, or that he is not talented, but right now he just sucks.  He isn&#8217;t a reliable shooter, can&#8217;t finish at the hoop, and gets KILLED on defense.  And I mean killed.  Any time he was matched against Cassell or Mobley it was a slaughter, either by taking him down to the blocks or just shooting right over him.  Still, if the goal is to get the young guys minutes then they can put him on the court when he has a mathcup he can handle (like when Eisly or Ewing were in the game for the Clips) and hope he improves enough offensivly to justify it.</p>
<p>&#8211; The offense is not generating shots and guys (Marbury and Crawford) looked lost running it.  The only &#8220;play&#8221; the Knicks ran effectivly was that swing one where Marbury comes down and cross picks for Curry to let him get position in the post.  Other than that, they wern&#8217;t even getting into their sets until the clock was down to 10 most times.  This could improve with Brown&#8217;s guidance however.</p>
<p>&#8211; On a related note, although the interior D looked good &#8212; a really big front line when Antonio Davis and Taylor play next to Curry&#8230; Davis is really tough down there in particular &#8212; the O really suffers with these guys in.  Either Frye needs to play or they need to figure out ways to get Crawford and Marbury shots within the offense. </p>
<p>&#8211; Why do they post Mo Taylor up so much?  They went to him like 5 times in the post.  </p>
<p>Overall, I think they&#8217;ll improve, but without a major talent infusion, this team is going nowhere.  And with the payroll they have, that&#8217;s unaceptable.</p>
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		<title>By: paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 08:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ahhh...it&#039;s a sad sad day when the three guys on the knicks who are reliable shooters are career 40 percent shooters and a rookie center...and now that quentin richardson doesn&#039;t rebound anymore and is no longer being fed by nash...does he even have a skill? Has anyone noticed he hasnt hit more than 40 percent of his shots since his second season.  I mean, granted, for the past two seasons more than half of his shot attempts have been three&#039;s, but doesn&#039;t that again attribute to his inability to create his own shot?

However, we are all obviously wasting out breathes.  The big story this year is the infallible front court of jerome james and malik rose.  I will never understand the trades of kurt thomas and nazr mohammed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ahhh&#8230;it&#8217;s a sad sad day when the three guys on the knicks who are reliable shooters are career 40 percent shooters and a rookie center&#8230;and now that quentin richardson doesn&#8217;t rebound anymore and is no longer being fed by nash&#8230;does he even have a skill? Has anyone noticed he hasnt hit more than 40 percent of his shots since his second season.  I mean, granted, for the past two seasons more than half of his shot attempts have been three&#8217;s, but doesn&#8217;t that again attribute to his inability to create his own shot?</p>
<p>However, we are all obviously wasting out breathes.  The big story this year is the infallible front court of jerome james and malik rose.  I will never understand the trades of kurt thomas and nazr mohammed.</p>
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