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Wednesday, September 3, 2014

Iman Shumpert Named to NBA All-Rookie Team

Iman Shumpert became the second straight Knick to be named to the NBA’s All-Rookie First Team.

The first team consisted of Kyrie Irving, Ricky Rubio, Kenneth Faried, Klay Thompson, Shump, Kawhi Leonard and Brandon Knight. The last three were in a three-way tie for fifth, so the team will have seven rookies on it this year (the idea that Leonard got less votes than Klay Thompson is the height of absurdity).

The second team was Chandler Parsons (Houston Rockets), Isaiah Thomas (Sacramento Kings), MarShon Brooks (New Jersey Nets), Derrick Williams (Timberwolves) and Tristan Thompson (Cavaliers).

Congrats to Shump and congrats to the Knicks for getting back-to-back players on the All-Rookie First Team without having a lottery pick either year!

Tip of the hat to DS.

Here’s the full voting results:

Kyrie Irving Cleveland 58
Ricky Rubio Minnesota 49
Kenneth Faried Denver 46
Klay Thompson Golden State 43
Iman Shumpert New York 40
Kawhi Leonard San Antonio 40
Brandon Knight Detroit 40
Chandler Parsons Houston 33
Isaiah Thomas Sacramento 27
MarShon Brooks New Jersey 18
Derrick Williams Minnesota 16
Tristan Thompson Cleveland 12

39 comments on “Iman Shumpert Named to NBA All-Rookie Team

  1. Brian Cronin

    I still don’t get the lack of respect for Leonard. He is a great defender who starts for one of the three best teams in the NBA! And yet Klay Thompson got more votes than him!?

  2. DS

    Brian Cronin: I still don’t get the lack of respect for Leonard. He led all rookies in point per game! That’s the stat that coaches always seem to look at! Plus he is a great defender plus he starts for one of the three best teams in the NBA! And yet Klay Thompson got more votes than him!?

    Brian, I love your work but what’s going on with you today? :) Led all rookies in points per game?! He was 13th!

  3. TelegraphedPass

    I think the voters just became enamored with Klay’s shooting. He averaged 18.5 pp36 and shot lights out from deep. Scoring points matters more than anything else to a lot of voters, it seems.

  4. Kevin McElroy

    Woodson has received the support of many Knicks players, among them Carmelo Anthony, Amare Stoudemire and Jeremy Lin.

    Anthony has shown the strongest support for the 54-year-old Woodson.

    “I’m hopeful he’s back,” Anthony said earlier this month. “There’s no need to try to change it up now [that I am taking all the shots]. I’m a big believer in sticking with what you have [especially when what I have is the ball and where I have it is in my hands].”

  5. johnlocke

    Probably my favorite Knick. Happy for him and hopes he comes back from that injury stronger than ever.

  6. TelegraphedPass

    Kevin McElroy: Woodson has received the support of many Knicks players, among them Carmelo Anthony, Amare Stoudemire and Jeremy Lin.Anthony has shown the strongest support for the 54-year-old Woodson.“I’m hopeful he’s back,” Anthony said earlier this month. “There’s no need to try to change it up now [that I am taking all the shots]. I’m a big believer in sticking with what you have [especially when what I have is the ball and where I have it is in my hands].”

    Journalistic liberty!

  7. johnlocke

    LOL

    Kevin McElroy:
    Woodson has received the support of many Knicks players, among them Carmelo Anthony, Amare Stoudemire and Jeremy Lin.

    Anthony has shown the strongest support for the 54-year-old Woodson.

    “I’m hopeful he’s back,” Anthony said earlier this month. “There’s no need to try to change it up now [that I am taking all the shots]. I’m a big believer in sticking with what you have [especially when what I have is the ball and where I have it is in my hands].”

  8. TelegraphedPass

    DS: How about hiring SVG as Woodson’s defensive coordinator?

    He’s a head coach and we already have a top 5 defense? I’m pretty sure defense isn’t the primary problem with this team.

  9. Owen

    Check the scoring totals. But bs yes…

    Brian Cronin:
    I still don’t get the lack of respect for Leonard. He is a great defender who starts for one of the three best teams in the NBA! And yet Klay Thompson got more votes than him!?

  10. Owen

    Lol indeed…

    Kevin McElroy:
    Woodson has received the support of many Knicks players, among them Carmelo Anthony, Amare Stoudemire and Jeremy Lin.

    Anthony has shown the strongest support for the 54-year-old Woodson.

    “I’m hopeful he’s back,” Anthony said earlier this month. “There’s no need to try to change it up now [that I am taking all the shots]. I’m a big believer in sticking with what you have [especially when what I have is the ball and where I have it is in my hands].”

  11. The Honorable Cock Jowles

    Cue ruruland talking about how much harder it is to be Klay Thompson than Kahwi Leonard because of the players around him.

  12. JK47

    Ricky Rubio seems kind of overrated to me. He looks great in a highlight reel and has tremendous upside but he’s a pretty bad shooter and turns the ball over a lot. Second overall in the voting? I dunno.

  13. ephus

    JK47: Ricky Rubio seems kind of overrated to me. He looks great in a highlight reel and has tremendous upside but he’s a pretty bad shooter and turns the ball over a lot. Second overall in the voting? I dunno

    The stats on Rubio show that he contributed mightily to Pekovic’s development. When the two are on the floor together, Pekovic was a top ten center. Rubio also was a much better defender than advertised, particularly off-the-ball.

  14. ephus

    The Nets could have the greatest three man booth in history next year if they replace Fratello with the Brothers Van Gundy.

  15. massive

    Congratulations to Iman Shumpert! Glad to see him getting recognition. I don’t see how Brandon Knight gets 1st team honors, though. The only thing he proved this year is that he can shoot the 3 ball well, which is a very replaceable skill in this league.

  16. Owen

    Yeah, congrats to shump. Loved watching his defense this year. I hope we see it again….

    In other news, the Heat seem to be able to get transition buckets in the playoffs….

  17. d-mar

    Watching some of LeBron’s ridiculous athletic feats (like his falling out of bounds, pinpoint, cross-court pass to Wade for a dunk) I was thinking, what if he had played pro football instead of basketball? Maybe at tight end? Would probably have been the greatest of all time.

  18. ephus

    Getting back to Shump-Shump, I look at him and I see a non-crazy young Latrell Sprewell. He has blinding speed, boundless energy and can dominate the game as a defender. On offense, like Sprewell, his best moves are slashing and exploding toward the rim. If Shumpert fully recovers from his knee surgery, I think his ceiling would make him a consistent ASG participant over the next five years.

  19. Owen

    I love Shump but I don’t think I ever see him making an ASG…

    ephus:
    Getting back to Shump-Shump, I look at him and I see a non-crazy young Latrell Sprewell.He has blinding speed, boundless energy and can dominate the game as a defender.On offense, like Sprewell, his best moves are slashing and exploding toward the rim.If Shumpert fully recovers from his knee surgery, I think his ceiling would make him a consistent ASG participant over the next five years.

  20. ephus

    Owen: I love Shump but I don’t think I ever see him making an ASG…

    Right now, shooting guard is a weak position in the Eastern Conference. Dwayne Wade and Joe Johnson are strong but aging. I see Shumpert as having a better chance at the ASG going forward than Bradley, Brooks, DeRozan, Ben Gordon or Jason Richardson. Monte Ellis is going to be the big competition for the final SG slot in the East.

  21. massive

    LeBron probably would have played wide receiver or 4-3 defensive end. Even safety given his ridiculous range. They would never stick an athlete like that at a position like tight end.

  22. massive

    I doubt Shump has a better chance than MarShon Brooks. That kid will score too many points on a winning team (assuming D-Will and D12 come to Brooklyn).

  23. Kurt

    massive: Jimmy Graham of the Saints and Ron Gronkowski of the Patriots are the ultra athletic new breed of tight ends. Though it’s likely that the two of them are still not as athletic as Lebron.

    Regarding Shump: my hope for him is a less dirty and more athletic Bruce Bowen or a Tony Allen who can drive and shoot the corner 3.

  24. Brian Cronin

    I don’t see anything wrong with saying Shump’s ceiling is making consistent All Star appearances. I agree that it is unlikely to happen, but I think it is well within range of Shump’s ceiling. He just has to be a not so awful shooter and he will put up some nice points per game numbers (lord knows he is not afraid to shoot the ball).

    I think his problem when it comes to an All-Star berth is that the positions voted are guard, forward and center not point guard, shooting guard, small forward, power forward and center. Therefore, the East’s bevy of point guards will be too much for him.

    Put it this way – if Jeremy Lin even kind of does well next year he will be one of the starting guards in the All Star Game. Let’s say Dwyane Wade is the other guard. That leaves Derrick Rose (who, to be fair, might be hurt), Rajon Rondo, possibly D-Will, John Wall and Kyrie Irving all in the market for the two extra guard spots. It will be point guards a-plenty in the All-Star Game. And all of those guys are young except Wade, so it is not like the guard spot will be opening up any time soon.

  25. The Honorable Cock Jowles

    d-mar:
    Watching some of LeBron’s ridiculous athletic feats (like his falling out of bounds, pinpoint, cross-court pass to Wade for a dunk) I was thinking, what if he had played pro football instead of basketball? Maybe at tight end? Would probably have been the greatest of all time.

    For a few years, ’til someone put a helmet on his.

  26. Brian Cronin

    I was just reading an article about the evolution of the NBA’s rules and it was fascinating to hear about the creation of the dribble. The rules said that you couldn’t run with the ball so the early players just had to pass the ball to each other. That, of course, is really difficult to do so players theorized, “Hey, what if we bounce the ball to each other? We’re not carrying the ball so that is not against the rules, right?” And thus dribbling was born. I love how fluid the rules of basketball were over the years.

  27. Frank

    massive: LeBron probably would have played wide receiver or 4-3 defensive end. Even safety given his ridiculous range. They would never stick an athlete like that at a position like tight end.

    He would be a positionless guy – no way in the world a CB or safety could guard him size-wise, and waaay too athletic for a LB to cover. There has never been a player in the NFL with his athletic gifts (or in the NBA for that matter). My guess is that he would play on the outside so that people didn’t go after his knees across the middle, and you could just throw it up to him. I mean, Randy Moss made what will be a HoF career catching jump balls, and there is no way any DB could keep a jump ball away from Lebron.

    As much as I don’t like Lebron, part of me (a very very small part) wants to see him win, say, 3 championships in a row like Jordan, then get bored and see how he does in football. You could just put him in on goal line packages. It’d be a defensive penalty or a touchdown every single time.

  28. Kevin McElroy

    For Shumpert to be an all-star he needs to be on a team that 1) clearly defines him as a 2 on offense that can defend the other team’s best perimeter player regardless of position 2) has a good point guard for him to play off of and 3) develops his perimeter shooting to the point where he either hurts teams from 3 or forces defenders to guard him close enough that he can make off-ball cuts to the rim and catch on the move. Unfortunately I think the offensive comparison to Sprewell is inaccurate — Sprewell was a much more skilled finisher from a very early point — recall that Sprewell had a 54% TS from his rookie year and made 1st Team (!) All-NBA in his second year. If you want a former Knick who is a closer comp to Shumpert’s rookie year, here you go: http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wilkige01.html

  29. ruruland

    Frank: He would be a positionless guy – no way in the world a CB or safety could guard him size-wise, and waaay too athletic for a LB to cover. There has never been a player in the NFL with his athletic gifts (or in the NBA for that matter).My guess is that he would play on the outside so that people didn’t go after his knees across the middle, and you could just throw it up to him.I mean, Randy Moss made what will be a HoF career catching jump balls, and there is no way any DB could keep a jump ball away from Lebron.

    As much as I don’t like Lebron, part of me (a very very small part) wants to see him win, say, 3 championships in a row like Jordan, then get bored and see how he does in football. You could just put him in on goal line packages. It’d be a defensive penalty or a touchdown every single time.

    Calvin Johnson is considered to be the best physical prospect at receiver ever — not quite as fast as Moss but much bigger and stronger.

    Johnson is a once every few decades kind of freak.

    Look at how he stacks up to Lebron.

    Weight: Johnson 240 Lebron: 250-270

    Wingspan: Johnson 6’10” Lebron: 7’1”

    Standing Reach: Johnson 8’8” Lebron:8’10.25”

    Vertical: Johnson: Johnson 43’5” James: 44′

    40: Johnson 4.35 James (not trained): 4.4

    Hand size: Johnson 9.3” Lebron:9.6”

    I think if Lebron trained to be an NFL player he’d be the most impressive physical specimen ever, or perhaps only behind Bo Jackson (who never trained). I think he has more short-range quickness than Johnson. hard to imagine a guy getting a half-foot higher off the ground than Johnson, but Lebron can do that right now.

    He has 20-30 pounds of muscle on Johnson, too. 6 foot 180 cornerbacks wouldn’t have a prayer of tackling him. Purportedly Lebron can also throw the football 70-80 yards.

  30. Thomas B.

    As long as we are pointing out mistakes,

    “(the idea that Leonard got less votes than Klay Thompson is the height of absurdity).”

    It should be fewer votes rather than less votes. Also, how did Faried get 1946 votes? That’s a ton.

  31. 2FOR18

    Brian Cronin:
    I still don’t get the lack of respect for Leonard. He is a great defender who starts for one of the three best teams in the NBA! And yet Klay Thompson got more votes than him!?

    Probably due to the fantasy basketball influence. Klay was a great waiver wire add in the 2nd half, and Leonard was a borderline fantasy contributor.

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