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		<title>By: Martin J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the props.  Just so everybody knows, the Sun website is no longer by paid subscription.

-MJ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the props.  Just so everybody knows, the Sun website is no longer by paid subscription.</p>
<p>-MJ</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 05:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, I get that all the radical stuff would never happen, but the NBA is the ONLY league that does not re-seed after each round, so I think they should change that.

It really makes no sense to re-seed, except if you think that we should, for some reason, reward lower-seeded teams (like the Jazz) for a high seed losing, which is what no re-seeding does.

The Jazz get rewarded for the Mavs blowing it against the Warriors - how does that make any sense?

Just re-seed. It&#039;s simple and it&#039;s fairer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I get that all the radical stuff would never happen, but the NBA is the ONLY league that does not re-seed after each round, so I think they should change that.</p>
<p>It really makes no sense to re-seed, except if you think that we should, for some reason, reward lower-seeded teams (like the Jazz) for a high seed losing, which is what no re-seeding does.</p>
<p>The Jazz get rewarded for the Mavs blowing it against the Warriors &#8211; how does that make any sense?</p>
<p>Just re-seed. It&#8217;s simple and it&#8217;s fairer.</p>
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		<title>By: jon abbey</title>
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		<dc:creator>jon abbey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 04:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think you have to rebalance the schedule. no one&#039;s saying you can make things completely fair and equitable. but you can certainly make them more so, and like I said, I think it&#039;d improve the general effort levels in the regular season also.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think you have to rebalance the schedule. no one&#8217;s saying you can make things completely fair and equitable. but you can certainly make them more so, and like I said, I think it&#8217;d improve the general effort levels in the regular season also.</p>
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		<title>By: dave crockett</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave crockett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 23:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have to disagree that the point of the Finals is to pit the top two teams. Perhaps it should not be, but it isn&#039;t. The NBA Finals (as does the Super Bowl and the World Series) merely pits one conference winner versus another--that&#039;s it. Sports leagues are quite explicit that their championships are determined by such a process. In any season one team&#039;s road to a championship may be smoother than another&#039;s because it faced a weaker schedule. The *only* playoff system that claims to explicitly account for schedule strength in determining championship game contestants is the BCS--and even then the accounting for it is quite limited and certainly not without controversy. 

None of this would be a topic of conversation were the gap between the two conferences not so large. I doubt any of the Western Conference finalists that faced Jordan&#039;s Bulls was the 2nd best team in the NBA (though that may be an interesting topic for another post). &quot;Weak sister&quot; championship competitors are part of every sport. I&#039;m as frustrated as any that the East continues to be the conference wearing the pig-tails and sun dress myself. But it seems to me that it&#039;s more than a slippery slope for any league to create an expectation that all roads leading to a championship should be equidistant. Creating those conditions is far from trivial. It does appear though that the momentum for re-seeding at least is building.

From the Newark Star-Ledger&#039;s Dave D&#039;Alessandro in today&#039;s (Sunday&#039;s) column http://www.nj.com/columns/ledger/dalessandro/index.ssf?/base/columns-0/1182055018124720.xml&amp;coll=1 

But it always goes back to one ineluctable snag: Reseeding would also lead to changing the regular-season schedule to a more balanced format.

&quot;I think that would be unpopular,&quot; Stern said, referring to owners who incur travel costs, &quot;because that would be a fundamental change in how we do things, and it would take a longer time. It&#039;s an idea, but one continuously rejected. The reseeding ... it&#039;s interesting. I just don&#039;t know how you would balance it out. (But) that&#039;s something that would get a more open hearing than the issue of playing a completely balanced schedule.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to disagree that the point of the Finals is to pit the top two teams. Perhaps it should not be, but it isn&#8217;t. The NBA Finals (as does the Super Bowl and the World Series) merely pits one conference winner versus another&#8211;that&#8217;s it. Sports leagues are quite explicit that their championships are determined by such a process. In any season one team&#8217;s road to a championship may be smoother than another&#8217;s because it faced a weaker schedule. The *only* playoff system that claims to explicitly account for schedule strength in determining championship game contestants is the BCS&#8211;and even then the accounting for it is quite limited and certainly not without controversy. </p>
<p>None of this would be a topic of conversation were the gap between the two conferences not so large. I doubt any of the Western Conference finalists that faced Jordan&#8217;s Bulls was the 2nd best team in the NBA (though that may be an interesting topic for another post). &#8220;Weak sister&#8221; championship competitors are part of every sport. I&#8217;m as frustrated as any that the East continues to be the conference wearing the pig-tails and sun dress myself. But it seems to me that it&#8217;s more than a slippery slope for any league to create an expectation that all roads leading to a championship should be equidistant. Creating those conditions is far from trivial. It does appear though that the momentum for re-seeding at least is building.</p>
<p>From the Newark Star-Ledger&#8217;s Dave D&#8217;Alessandro in today&#8217;s (Sunday&#8217;s) column <a href="http://www.nj.com/columns/ledger/dalessandro/index.ssf?/base/columns-0/1182055018124720.xml&#038;coll=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.nj.com/columns/ledger/dalessandro/index.ssf?/base/columns-0/1182055018124720.xml&#038;coll=1</a> </p>
<p>But it always goes back to one ineluctable snag: Reseeding would also lead to changing the regular-season schedule to a more balanced format.</p>
<p>&#8220;I think that would be unpopular,&#8221; Stern said, referring to owners who incur travel costs, &#8220;because that would be a fundamental change in how we do things, and it would take a longer time. It&#8217;s an idea, but one continuously rejected. The reseeding &#8230; it&#8217;s interesting. I just don&#8217;t know how you would balance it out. (But) that&#8217;s something that would get a more open hearing than the issue of playing a completely balanced schedule.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: jon abbey</title>
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		<dc:creator>jon abbey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 20:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the other major problem with the unbalanced conferences that never seems to be mentioned is how it devalues the regular season. this year, Cleveland, Detroit and Miami were in cruise control for most of the first half of the season, something they couldn&#039;t do if there was some kind of leaguewide seeding system.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the other major problem with the unbalanced conferences that never seems to be mentioned is how it devalues the regular season. this year, Cleveland, Detroit and Miami were in cruise control for most of the first half of the season, something they couldn&#8217;t do if there was some kind of leaguewide seeding system.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Zannettis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Zannettis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 17:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The point of the Finals is to pit the two best teams against each other for the championship. Any system that does not go out of its way to make this happen, is a flawed one.

There is no reason that we can&#039;t come up with a system that will guarantee that the better teams don&#039;t play each other in the earlier rounds.

Any of the proposed systems--seeding 1-16, re-seeding, or even having the East v. West in round one--would work for me. They all lead to the best teams playing each other at the end.   

It&#039;s not brain science, it&#039;s common sense.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point of the Finals is to pit the two best teams against each other for the championship. Any system that does not go out of its way to make this happen, is a flawed one.</p>
<p>There is no reason that we can&#8217;t come up with a system that will guarantee that the better teams don&#8217;t play each other in the earlier rounds.</p>
<p>Any of the proposed systems&#8211;seeding 1-16, re-seeding, or even having the East v. West in round one&#8211;would work for me. They all lead to the best teams playing each other at the end.   </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not brain science, it&#8217;s common sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Z</title>
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		<dc:creator>Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 15:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Lakers could obviously get much more for Kobe from another team. The only way he is coming to the Knicks is if he demands to be traded only to the Knicks (by no means out of the question). If he does demand to be traded to the Knicks, then they are crazy to give up Lee because they would not be bidding against anybody. It would just come down to salary considerations (basically everyone on the roster turns from a human being into their salary and whichever numbers work out best would go to LA). LA would want us to take a bloated contract attached to a marginal talent (Vlad Rad) as well, but the Knicks don&#039;t have any expiring contracts to include this year, so they would just get bloated contracts attached to marginal talent (Rose, James, Jeffries, Francis, etc...) in return, which would only further piss LA off. 

As for the players/picks listed above, I&#039;m not sure if it works out salary wise (I&#039;m not a forensic accountant, so it is hard for me to make heads or tails out of the salary cap/trade exceptions intricacies).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Lakers could obviously get much more for Kobe from another team. The only way he is coming to the Knicks is if he demands to be traded only to the Knicks (by no means out of the question). If he does demand to be traded to the Knicks, then they are crazy to give up Lee because they would not be bidding against anybody. It would just come down to salary considerations (basically everyone on the roster turns from a human being into their salary and whichever numbers work out best would go to LA). LA would want us to take a bloated contract attached to a marginal talent (Vlad Rad) as well, but the Knicks don&#8217;t have any expiring contracts to include this year, so they would just get bloated contracts attached to marginal talent (Rose, James, Jeffries, Francis, etc&#8230;) in return, which would only further piss LA off. </p>
<p>As for the players/picks listed above, I&#8217;m not sure if it works out salary wise (I&#8217;m not a forensic accountant, so it is hard for me to make heads or tails out of the salary cap/trade exceptions intricacies).</p>
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		<title>By: Hudson River</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hudson River</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 14:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like the seeds how they are, it gives the underdogs a greater chance. The point about the .300 teams in the West being far superior to the teams in the east is so true, and now they have Greg Oden and  Kevin Durant out West. Hopefully some superstars start moving east, to even things out because its getting somewhat ridiculous. 

Speaking of star players coming to the east, how about Kobe in New York? I&#039;m not a huge Kobe fan, but if he were with the Knicks I&#039;m sure I could be. How much would we be willing to give up to make that happen?

-Jamal Crawford
-Channing Frye
-Randolph Morris
-Nate Robinson
-This Year&#039;s first rounder
-Next years first rounder (top 5 protected)

And from the Lakers we would get:
-Kobe

I think this might be a good trade, although its totally possible that they would demand David Lee or Renaldo Balkman, but they already have a hustle player in that mold in Ronny Turiaf.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the seeds how they are, it gives the underdogs a greater chance. The point about the .300 teams in the West being far superior to the teams in the east is so true, and now they have Greg Oden and  Kevin Durant out West. Hopefully some superstars start moving east, to even things out because its getting somewhat ridiculous. </p>
<p>Speaking of star players coming to the east, how about Kobe in New York? I&#8217;m not a huge Kobe fan, but if he were with the Knicks I&#8217;m sure I could be. How much would we be willing to give up to make that happen?</p>
<p>-Jamal Crawford<br />
-Channing Frye<br />
-Randolph Morris<br />
-Nate Robinson<br />
-This Year&#8217;s first rounder<br />
-Next years first rounder (top 5 protected)</p>
<p>And from the Lakers we would get:<br />
-Kobe</p>
<p>I think this might be a good trade, although its totally possible that they would demand David Lee or Renaldo Balkman, but they already have a hustle player in that mold in Ronny Turiaf.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 04:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I do think one aspect of the playoffs should be fixed - the seeds. They really should re-seed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do think one aspect of the playoffs should be fixed &#8211; the seeds. They really should re-seed.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 23:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One problem with the current system is that the draft process is actually biased towards maintaining competitive imbalance. Because the West is so much tougher, a .300 team in the west is much better than a .300 team in the east. But both teams get equal consideration for draft positioning. As a result, Western teams get a better ratio of lottery odds to actual team quality. 

Exhibit A and B this year are Portland and Seattle. If ranked by RPI (which takes competitive balance into account) rather than record, both Portland and Seattle would have fallen a couple of notches in the lottery rankings. Instead, they were given better odds than they probably deserved. The bias of the system, combined with a bit of happenstance, has significantly raised the odds that the longstanding imbalance between the Eastern and Western conferences will continue into the forseeable future.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One problem with the current system is that the draft process is actually biased towards maintaining competitive imbalance. Because the West is so much tougher, a .300 team in the west is much better than a .300 team in the east. But both teams get equal consideration for draft positioning. As a result, Western teams get a better ratio of lottery odds to actual team quality. </p>
<p>Exhibit A and B this year are Portland and Seattle. If ranked by RPI (which takes competitive balance into account) rather than record, both Portland and Seattle would have fallen a couple of notches in the lottery rankings. Instead, they were given better odds than they probably deserved. The bias of the system, combined with a bit of happenstance, has significantly raised the odds that the longstanding imbalance between the Eastern and Western conferences will continue into the forseeable future.</p>
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