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Sunday, July 21, 2019

Hubie On The Fight/Foul/Isiah

Fantastic link here (courtesy of

Just a taste (but there is plenty of good stuff here)

Now, we have all been in a few games during the season ? I always say there are five you cannot do anything about. You can?t help your team tonight, and they?ll lose by 30; or you might win by 30, and can?t screw it up. Five games a year, okay? All you?re doing is exhausting yourself and giving yourself agida by worrying about it. All you have to know is if you?re in the business for a while, the pendulum always swings, and your opportunity (for payback) will come ? if that?s what you want.

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9 comments on “Hubie On The Fight/Foul/Isiah

  1. carl tropper

    I like Steve Nash’s comment-in hockey, your own team would have beaten you up for a punch like that.

    This entire thing is overblown. It happened in New York and the
    press is a bunch of bored, frustrated writers. As long as the fans don’t get hit, it is not a big deal.

  2. dave crockett

    d’alessandro is the best in the nba. (in mlb i’ll go tim marchman of the ny sun, in the nfl mike sando of the tacoma (WA) news-trib.) in addition, i became an NBA fan because of hubie brown. i was strictly a college guy before hubie joined the TNT broadcasts. so anytime hubie speaks i listen.

    if you read the article hubie subtly, but directly, chastises isiah for not instructing collins on how to give a hard, “professional” foul–from the elbow down.

    hubie also hints at something a buddy of mine said the day after the brawl. “giving consistent effort on defense–no matter the score–is a sign of respect for your coach.” (i may have already posted that comment but don’t recall.) this team’s propensity to drop its head and stop playing–particularly on defense–as soon as it gets hit with a little 8-0 run is mind blowing. it’s a big part of why the team is consistently down 18-20 points. it’s also the surest sign that they’re not buying what isiah is selling any more than they did larry brown.

    i suppose this is the last comment i’ll make on the matter. then, i’m done. i could swallow the tough-guy routine from collins, jeffries, robinson, et al. a little easier if the knicks hadn’t spent the whole night not caring whether denver scored. where is all this pride in the midst of those 30+ point quarters this team routinely gives up?

  3. Nick

    Isiah’s mistake was saying the words directly to Anthony. If he wanted to send a “message” he should have told Collins in the huddle, away from the television cameras. He had to know that his conversation would have been captured on TV and the words though not heard could have been deciphered.

    I disagree with Hubie. If I perceived a team was purposefully embarassing my team, I would have no qualms about instructing a hard foul as well. I think that is part of the game, just like a pitcher throwing at a hitter in retaliation for a player stealing a base with his team up x amount of runs. The question becomes was Isiah justified in thinking that Karl was running up the score. I do not know.

    Collins was 100% wrong, cannot foul above the shoulders as a pitcher should never aim for someone’s head.

  4. hoolahoop

    Hubie nailed it.

    The same goes in life. As soon as you start worrying about what the other guy is doing, you’re screwed. Worry about doing the best you can every single moment, regardless of the score or what’s going on all around you. Then, you’re attentionwill be where it should be, and you’ll be at your best at all times.

  5. zlionsfan

    I don’t think that pointing to similar behavior in other sports justifies behavior like this in basketball. Besides, beanballs provoke “brawls” in baseball just like this one (but usually with less contact, 50 or more guys running onto the field glaring angrily at each other). Baseball has degraded to the point where if you get hit in the butt with a changeup, it’s justification to charge the mound. Basketball doesn’t need that. (And intentionally throwing at another player is stupid. It may be part of the “tradition” of baseball, but that doesn’t make it less stupid.)

    I’m with Dave Crockett on this one. Isn’t it a little more important to stand up for yourselves during the first 46 minutes?

    I’m guessing Nash hasn’t watched the Coyotes recently (nor have many others, for that matter). Hockey put in a bunch of rules specifically to prevent these shenanigans. Of course, they provoked the same kind of backlash … fighting is a “part of the game”, blah blah blah. I think the end-of-game five-on-five brawls weren’t quite a part of the game that the NHL needed to keep.

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