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Thursday, July 24, 2014

Hangin’ with the NYK Podcast. On the phone.

During last night’s charity scrimmage, I had a chance to chat with the quantum Jay and Marc from The New York Knicks Podcast.

Topics include: Whether Amar’e should come off the bench, Playoff predictions, season awards, Magic Eye pictures, Eduardo Najera, the NBA’s biggest a$@%^&*!, Afghanistan, and other, equally brain-tickling items. One of us even picks the Knicks to win every round!

It’s Friday, we know you’re slacking at work anyway. Tune in!

At the very least, follow them on Twitter and check out their pod. Which sounds gross, but shouldn’t, unless you’re 12 years old or something.

25 comments on “Hangin’ with the NYK Podcast. On the phone.

  1. Cousyfan

    During last night’s game shown on TNT, they showed Jeremy Lin going from side to side at the free-throw line taking shots. He was about half an inch off the floor when he released the balls. Those may not have been “jump shots” but they were jumps nevertheless.
    He should be back playing BEFORE the end of the first round with the Heats. Particularly, in the fourth quarter of a close game.
    Cheers

  2. Matt Smith

    Cousyfan: During last night’s game shown on TNT, they showed Jeremy Lin going from side to side at the free-throw line taking shots. He was about half an inch off the floor when he released the balls. Those may not have been “jump shots” but they were jumps nevertheless.He should be back playing BEFORE the end of the first round with the Heats. Particularly, in the fourth quarter of a close game.Cheers

    I know you mean well, but… no way. Even half an inch is generous. Amar’e was dunking a good week and a half before he was allowed to play again. I’m not going to mortgage the future of our future PG by pushing him to play when he shouldn’t be, regardless of how intense the matchup is. Plus, the kid has no playoff experience – I don’t think it’s wise to throw him, injured, into the middle of the series when he’s barely jumping two days before the playoffs start. My 2c – we should listen to the doctors.

    Aside from that, I believe Jerome Jordan looked like a first-ballot hal of famer last night. Who’s with me?! Anyone? Anyone??

  3. Shad0wF0x

    #FreeJeromeJordan

    Yeah but if the Brandon Roy incident taught me anything, is that unless a Willis Reed is pulled, it’s really not worth it to push an injured player in the early rounds.

  4. The Honorable Cock Jowles

    TelegraphedPass:
    The #FreeJeromeJordan movement lives on…

    And will continue to live on until he’s due to become a UFA, at which point he’ll be played and we’ll have two superstar centers to pay near-max money to. I just love basketball management.

  5. Frank

    The Honorable Cock Jowles: And will continue to live on until he’s due to become a UFA, at which point he’ll be played and we’ll have two superstar centers to pay near-max money to. I just love basketball management.

    zzzz. if we have 2 max-money type centers (chances of Jerome turning into a max-level player = zero by the way), I would consider that a good thing. because, you know, you can like trade players, unless your famous clairvoyant powers predict that there won’t be a trade market for max-money level centers in a few years. because there are so many of them.

    you troll just to troll.

  6. The Honorable Cock Jowles

    Frank: zzzz. if we have 2 max-money type centers (chances of Jerome turning into a max-level player = zero by the way), I would consider that a good thing.because, you know, you can like trade players, unless your famous clairvoyant powers predict that there won’t be a trade market for max-money level centers in a few years.because there are so many of them.

    you troll just to troll.

    Learn to read. If you couldn’t identify that as pessimistic Knick fan hyperbole, you shouldn’t be here.

  7. Frank

    btw earlier in the year we were “discussing” the awesomeness of Ryan Anderson and whether he was the greatest thing since sliced bread or whether he was mostly feasting while every defender was paying attention to Dwight Howard.

    There’s really nothing like a before and after to decide that:

    WITH Howard in lineup, here are Anderson’s per-36 #s.
    18.5 points, 8.6 rebounds on a TS of 59.9 (51 game sample)

    WITHOUT Howard in the lineup, here are Anderson’s per-36 #s.
    15.5 points, 8.8 rebounds on a TS of 54.7 (10 game sample)

    Amazingly, it appears that defensive attention paid to one player CAN in fact improve the efficiency of players around him.

  8. Frank

    The Honorable Cock Jowles: Learn to read. If you couldn’t identify that as pessimistic Knick fan hyperbole, you shouldn’t be here.

    sorry, most of us need a freaking Enigma decoder to figure out whether you are trolling, having “pessimistic Knick fan hyperbole”, or just being yourself. They all sound/are the same.

  9. Z

    Frank:
    btw earlier in the year we were “discussing” the awesomeness of Ryan Anderson and whether he was the greatest thing since sliced bread or whether he was mostly feasting while every defender was paying attention to Dwight Howard.

    There’s really nothing like a before and after to decide that:

    WITH Howard in lineup, here are Anderson’s per-36 #s.
    18.5 points, 8.6 rebounds on a TS of 59.9 (51 game sample)

    WITHOUT Howard in the lineup, here are Anderson’s per-36 #s.
    15.5 points, 8.8 rebounds on a TS of 54.7 (10 game sample)

    Amazingly, it appears that defensive attention paid to one player CAN in fact improve the efficiency of players around him.

    Yeah, but he killed us on Wednesday. 24 pts, 13 rebs, when it mattered most (for the Knicks!)

  10. Juany8

    I gotta give the Knick’s front office a lot of credit though, they have managed to get Fields, Jorts, and Jordan in the second round and they all look like they can be competent rotation players. If the front office can draft that well, it makes a lot of sense to concentrate most of the cap money on a few players who can play major minutes in the playoffs and then fill out the roster with young guys that can be drafter and molded to fit a specific role. Plus Shump is looking more and more like a total steal, it’s hard to believe he’s this good defensively as a rookie, and his offensive game has made massive strides, especially since D’Antoni left.

  11. Juany8

    Z: Yeah, but he killed us on Wednesday. 24 pts, 13 rebs, when it mattered most (for the Knicks!)

    Jerome Jordan looked like a hall of famer against the Bobcats so that performance should be taken with a grain of salt. Gotta give Jordan props for being involved with both the best winning percentage and best losing percentage of all time.

  12. Brian Cronin

    I don’t believe the sample size for Anderson is all that useful. He hurt himself and the only reason he came back when he did was because the team was desperate due to Howard’s injury. He likely takes off the first two weeks of April (rather than just the first week) if they had Howard playing. The 10 game sample is affected dramatically by his first three games. I think he didn’t even hit a three in one of the games. The last seven games saw him putting up even better numbers than he did with Howard.

    I don’t think either proves anything either way, though, as you could easily argue “He was putting up great numbers because someone needed to with Howard out.”

    We’ll see Anderson’s “true” self soon enough, though, as I sincerely doubt that Howard is long for Orlando.

  13. Frank

    @13 – Anderson still averaged 6.9 3′s per game in April (essentially the Non-Howard period), which was exactly his season average prior. The difference was that he shot ~42% from 3 WITH Howard and 27.5% without Howard. His ridiculous efficiency was based on the fact that he took such a huge amount of 3′s and hit them at a 42+% clip. But somehow, without Howard, he became a worse shooter.

    Could be injuries, sure. But if someone like Owen is going to use that argument, then all his anti-Melo arguments from Feb/March go out the window too. Melo was undeniably nursing all kinds of injuries during that period.

  14. Brian Cronin

    Could be injuries, sure. But if someone like Owen is going to use that argument, then all his anti-Melo arguments from Feb/March go out the window too. Melo was undeniably nursing all kinds of injuries during that period.

    Well, then it is a good thing that Owen didn’t bring it up, but rather me, who was perfectly willing to allow for Melo’s injury issues. ;)

    The 1-15 he shot from three point land in his second and third games combined likely had a great deal to do with his three-point percentage post Howard. You drop his first three games and I imagine his percentage would be quite robust.

  15. Frank

    Brian Cronin: Well, then it is a good thing that Owen didn’t bring it up, but rather me, who was perfectly willing to allow for Melo’s injury issues. ;)

    I only said Owen because it was Owen who was gushing on and on about how Ryan Anderson was having the most efficient season in NBA history or some such thing.

    Brian Cronin:
    The 1-15 he shot from three point land in his second and third games combined likely had a great deal to do with his three-point percentage post Howard. You drop his first three games and I imagine his percentage would be quite robust.

    lol we could go on and on – if you take away his 5-12 from 3 point range against Utah, his percentage would be positively Landry Fields-like.

  16. Brian Cronin

    I only said Owen because it was Owen who was gushing on and on about how Ryan Anderson was having the most efficient season in NBA history or some such thing.

    I believe he’s moved on to James Harden. :)

    lol we could go on and on – if you take away his 5-12 from 3 point range against Utah, his percentage would be positively Landry Fields-like.

    Yeah, but I think there’s reason in excusing away his early games back where, again, he likely would have sat out had they not needed him due to Howard’s injury. When you’re looking at just a 10 game sample, and 3 of the 10 games the guy is playing hurt, it throws the whole thing off.

  17. Brian Cronin

    WAIT WHAT?!?!?!?

    @NYPost_Berman: Woodson mentions unsure Tyson will play.

    Well, if you’re going to lose Chandler, this at least is the team you’d want to lose him against.

    But yeah, that is plain ol’ awful news.

    EDITED TO ADD: Ah, I see, it is the flu. Does anyone seriously expect Chandler to miss a game due to the flu?

  18. Brian Cronin

    By the way, I guess there’s nothing for Dolan to say if he seriously is considering hiring someone else (as “no comment” would likely be just as bad), but man, to say that they’ll “reassess the coaching situation after the playoffs” just seems so harsh.

  19. ruruland

    Frank:
    @13 – Anderson still averaged 6.9 3?s per game in April (essentially the Non-Howard period), which was exactly his season average prior.The difference was that he shot ~42% from 3 WITH Howard and 27.5% without Howard.His ridiculous efficiency was based on the fact that he took such a huge amount of 3?s and hit them at a 42+% clip. But somehow, without Howard, he became a worse shooter.

    Could be injuries, sure. But if someone like Owen is going to use that argument, then all his anti-Melo arguments from Feb/March go out the window too. Melo was undeniably nursing all kinds of injuries during that period.

    Look at this:
    http://www.nba.com/advancedstats/player-vs-player.html#Dwight-Howard-vs-Ryan-Anderson|2730,201583;year=201112;season=r

    here are the numbers for Ryan Anderson on the year year with Howard on bench and Howard on court.

    Look at how much lower his percentage is on the corner 3 with Howard off the floor.

    Remember, that was the shot we talked about him living off of with Howard.

  20. johnlocke

    The Curse of Isaiah Thomas strikes again!

    Brian Cronin: Well, if you’re going to lose Chandler, this at least is the team you’d want to lose him against.

    But yeah, that is plain ol’ awful news.

    EDITED TO ADD: Ah, I see, it is the flu. Does anyone seriously expect Chandler to miss a game due to the flu?

  21. max fisher-cohen

    Frank:
    btw earlier in the year we were “discussing” the awesomeness of Ryan Anderson and whether he was the greatest thing since sliced bread or whether he was mostly feasting while every defender was paying attention to Dwight Howard.

    There’s really nothing like a before and after to decide that:

    WITH Howard in lineup, here are Anderson’s per-36 #s.
    18.5 points, 8.6 rebounds on a TS of 59.9 (51 game sample)

    WITHOUT Howard in the lineup, here are Anderson’s per-36 #s.
    15.5 points, 8.8 rebounds on a TS of 54.7 (10 game sample)

    Amazingly, it appears that defensive attention paid to one player CAN in fact improve the efficiency of players around him.

    It’s a symbiotic relationship. Where would howard be if not for the fact that he has four guys around him who are three point threats?

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