ruruland: The way heis moving with his back to the basket. His movement on offense gets better every game.

He was going to throw down a dunk on Gibsonwith his left hand but was fouled.

He was fouled 3 times on 4 post- ups tonight against elite post defenders. That should tell you something.

The timing, rhythm, conditioningand explosion each get a little better each game.

he did look better last night, but with his defensive liabiliies, he needs to really become an efficient scorer and put up numers, especially with melo onthe bench. his numbers are not good. maybe he will improve, but he has a long ways to go to be considered an offensive force. i dont know if he going to get there. the fact that he almost was going to dunk the ball on one play does not get me excited

yellowboy90:
How many lazy passes can kidd throw? It’s like he has been trying to break a record these past few games.

With the london trip coming up it would be a nice time to incorporate a pg or/and a pf. Give them some major practice time with the team and carry some of the load until Felton, Camby, and Sheed get back. Maybe Pargo and Martin can get a call. I don’t think Kidd can make it at PG. They might as well bring in a pg and start Prigi with Kidd at the two.

Also, I know white was playing to keep his job but every time he does play he does a pretty good job. He plays decent D and isn’t afraid on offense. He shoots when open, drives when overplayed, and either finishes or makes the correct pass. Maybe it’s just Brewer fatigue but James has looked alright.

i dont think its fair to blame kidd. Kidd was not signed to be a primary point guard on the court at any times. thats not the role he has played for dallas the last few years and there is no way that he would play that role for us as a rimary ballhandler at an even older age. The reality is that prigs has not been able to be a penetrater and legit offensive threat.
personally, i think white has some worth and i dont want to get rid of kurt (he is serviceable and prob a good influence in the locker room). therefore, i say we just play things out until felton and shump are back in the fold. if we feel the need to get a pg for the shot term, i would look at maynor from OKC

ruruland: White always looks good to me, which is why id rather see Copeland cut. He’s very quick, looks like he can run all day. If he can make open shots he’ll be very valuable. He’ll defend, get to loose balls and he’s the fastest and best open floor finisher on the team.

He’s got the potential to be a good,rotation player on a serious team.

To me White was the only Knick with a semblance of anything going on offense for a good deal of the game. He’s a much better driver than Cope, at least.

BigBlueAL:
Looking back at that 93-94 season they actually won 6 in a row to get to 32-11.Then they went 4-8 over their next 12 games and were 36-19.They then won 15 in a row to improve to 51-19.Frustratingly as I remember too well they only went 6-6 the rest of the way and lost the #1 seed to the Hawks by finishing tied with them but lost the tie-breaker due to having a worse conference record (also finished 1 game worse than the Rockets which turned out to be an even bigger deal in the end).

Isn’t that the year we went undefeated in March? Don’t see this Knicks team having that kind of run.

We have a killer later in the year, too: at Golden State, at Denver, at Portland, at LA Clippers, at Utah, all in 8 days. That’s going to take a good chunk out of our record.

That’s the frustrating thing: this 5-8 stretch hasn’t exactly come against a challenging portion of our schedule. We’ve lost at home to the Rockets & Blazers, been blown out twice on our floor by a Bulls team w/o Rose, lost to a Celtics team w/o Rondo, lost to the Lakers & Kings away.

Let’s just get these next three against N.O., Detroit, and Brooklyn and even out our 5-8 record before we head to Boston.

FWIW, the Celtics will probably be on a 10 game winning streak by then (they have CHA, NO, CHI, at DET, at CLE)

Brian Cronin: I certainly am not suggesting that he won’t produce, but at the same time I don’t think he did anything tonight to show that he will. I think tonight was likely an aberration (first back-to-back since he returned, right?) but he didn’t do anything tonight that made me think, “Wow, you can tell he is about to return to form.” What did you see in him tonight that made you think otherwise?

The way he is moving with his back to the basket. His movement on offense gets better every game.

He was going to throw down a dunk on Gibsonwith his left hand but was fouled.

He was fouled 3 times on 4 post- ups tonight against elite post defenders. That should tell you something.

The timing, rhythm, conditioning and explosion each get a little better each game.

yellowboy90:
How many lazy passes can kidd throw? It’s like he has been trying to break a record these past few games.

With the london trip coming up it would be a nice time to incorporate a pg or/and a pf. Give them some major practice time with the team and carry some of the load until Felton, Camby, and Sheed get back. Maybe Pargo and Martin can get a call. I don’t think Kidd can make it at PG. They might as well bring in a pg and start Prigi with Kidd at the two.

Also, I know white was playing to keep his job but every time he does play he does a pretty good job. He plays decent D and isn’t afraid on offense. He shoots when open, drives when overplayed, and either finishes or makes the correct pass. Maybe it’s just Brewer fatigue but James has looked alright.

White always looks good to me, which is why id rather see Copeland cut. He’s very quick, looks like he can run all day. If he can make open shots he’ll be very valuable. He’ll defend, get to loose balls and he’s the fastest and best open floor finisher on the team.

He’s got the potential to be a good,rotation player on a serious team.

Not time to panic. Amare is going to produce, you can see it.

I certainly am not suggesting that he won’t produce, but at the same time I don’t think he did anything tonight to show that he will. I think tonight was likely an aberration (first back-to-back since he returned, right?) but he didn’t do anything tonight that made me think, “Wow, you can tell he is about to return to form.” What did you see in him tonight that made you think otherwise?

. Its always good to give the game a quick second look when the emotionality of its gone. If you do, you’ll see the Knicks started the game with some good defensive possessions that Chicago converted on tough shots.

The basic mechanics of the Knicks offense are awry without Felton. That gets exploited by great defensive teams. Some of us forgot the lesson we should have learned in the Heat series when Felton went down a few weeks ago.

But the lack of an offensive threat outside of Melo in combination with some early makes against good defense will lead to funny things happening.

The Bulls jump shooting was a funny thing, probably won’t happen again for them this year.

Conversely, those dynamics are deflating for the opponent, and that’s how blowouts happen.

You have to like the fact that the Knicks don’t give up when many teams would. Melo deserves credit for that.

As far as Melo vis-a-vis Deng and lethargy.

His energy was actually good in the first quarter. He went over a screen and got backdoored by Noah… High risk / high reward play. He didn’t get through two screens fast enough and he got beat on a second back door after Chandler did t block his man out.

Every other shot Deng hit was contested by Melo. But 4 bad possessions resulting in 8 points is not good by any stretch, even in 45 minutes of play.

Melos energy waned in the second quarter, which you could see on his drives and in transition defense. He only got a two minute break.

But I thought outside of about 6 minutes in the second his energy was ok.

The Knicks havent been able to score without him for a food month now, and I think that can wear on a guy physically and psychologically.

He’ll be fine, but the Knicks will have to win with the defense until Felton gets back. Ultimately, this stretch will prove to be really important in re-establishing it.

Not time to panic. Amare is going to produce, you can see it.

With the london trip coming up it would be a nice time to incorporate a pg or/and a pf. Give them some major practice time with the team and carry some of the load until Felton, Camby, and Sheed get back. Maybe Pargo and Martin can get a call. I don’t think Kidd can make it at PG. They might as well bring in a pg and start Prigi with Kidd at the two.

Also, I know white was playing to keep his job but every time he does play he does a pretty good job. He plays decent D and isn’t afraid on offense. He shoots when open, drives when overplayed, and either finishes or makes the correct pass. Maybe it’s just Brewer fatigue but James has looked alright.