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Thursday, July 24, 2014

Game preview & thread: Knicks vs. Robertcats

Ahoy hoy! The bros over at Queen City Hoops were kind enough to elicit my thoughts on a few Knicks-’Cats story lines ahead of tonight’s tilt:

1- STATS: In the Knicks past 5 games they’ve been on a tear offensively. NYK are averaging 104.6 PPG, making 10.6 3FG/game & shooting the ball at a 50.3% mark. How can the Cats’ slow this potent offensive attack down tonight?

Spencer: It’ll be interesting to see if Chandler plays tonight. If he doesn’t, the Bobcats can compete on the glass and not have to be so on alert with PnR’s involving Tyson. Other than that, you have to know where shooters are with the Knicks. Smith, Novak, Felton & Shumpert (just to name a few) can make you pay in a hurry. Considering the style that Dunlap likes to implement defensively, over-helping, has to be reeled in a bit tonight. Just cannot afford to leave shooters with the Knicks. Chase these guys off the 3-point line and force the ball to the rim where they’ll have to finish contested attempts there.

Jim Cavan (Knickerblogger): When the Knicks are rotating the ball like they have – recapturing some of the November magic many of us had given up for dead – having your defense on a taut string is of the utmost. The ‘Cats are quick enough to executive quick rotations capable of making life difficult for New York’s shooters. The question is whether the communication and correct rotations will be there when they need to be. Goading Felton into 22-footers from the top of the key isn’t a bad strategy, either.

Mathew: Well, I’d say limit the 3-point attempts but that request is a little stale at this point. I’m going to focus on a specific Bobcat – MKG. He’ll get the task of checking Carmelo Anthony for the majority of the game tonight. If he can hold his own when Melo takes him down into the post, in turn not requiring a double from one of his teammates, it will allow the Bobcats to defend passes out of the post and the 3-point line more effectively.

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77 comments on “Game preview & thread: Knicks vs. Robertcats

  1. Brian Cronin

    My wife got us really nice seats for Valentine’s Day. She knows I love to go to games that are pretty much automatic wins! :) Yay, cannon fodder!

  2. chrisk06811

    Brian Cronin:
    My wife got us really nice seats for Valentine’s Day. She knows I love to go to games that are pretty much automatic wins! :) Yay, cannon fodder!

    that’s really sweet! The two of you should scream trash so loud it makes Byron Mullens cry.

  3. d-mar

    Brian Cronin:
    My wife got us really nice seats for Valentine’s Day. She knows I love to go to games that are pretty much automatic wins! :) Yay, cannon fodder!

    Man, I REALLY wish you hadn’t used the term “automatic win”!

    (And don’t forget it’s Friday night Knicks)

    Enjoy the game either way.

  4. Brian Cronin

    Ha! Hey, I threw in the qualifier “pretty much”! No guarantee from me!

    But seriously, I don’t see how that this team can hang with the Knicks.

  5. d-mar

    I would love to see James White get more minutes than Carmelo Anthony tonight i.e. start to finish blowout

  6. AnonymousODG

    Well the blowout is commencing. I’m hoping that Kidd/Camby/Melo can get some rest while Copeland/White get some extended burn.

  7. AnonymousODG

    mr.JayP:
    5 buck wager that melo felton kmart n kidd play in the fourth.

    Sucker bet.

    Maybe they should get Anthony Mason to teach his patented one-handed free throw shot to KMart. His FT% can’t get much worse. I mean… in the history of oxymoronic phrases, “KMart free throw,” is starting to ascend in irony.

  8. AnonymousODG

    Douglas:
    It’s nice to be on the other side of a big 1st q… 38-20?? GOOD LORD.

    Not sure how much attention has been paid to the complete 180 turn in our 1st quarters and the reasons why. There was a good 10-15 game stretch where we’d just come out like absolute garbage to start the game, particularly to garbage teams.

    And now, by my count, we’ve outscored the opponent by 54 pts in these past 7 games combined. Have to give credit where it’s due, KMart, Prig and Shump have been playing fantastic as starters.

  9. BigBlueAL

    Isola tweeted the Knicks wouldve been better off with a tough 2 hr practice than playing this game lol.

  10. BigBlueAL

    Im petrified of losing Robinson Cano via free agency. I think I might have to put JR in the same sentence now lol.

  11. johnlocke

    Great comment. In Colombia for a few days …checking up on the game. Looks like JRs keeping it up

    flossy:
    Um JR Smith is going whatever is the next level up from H.A.M.

  12. AnonymousODG

    Brian Cronin:
    Why do teams NEVER call timeout there?If Charlotte calls their 20 there,they get the ball at midcourt. Teams never do it,though.

    I think they used their 20 second timeout.

  13. gmoney_nz

    If they could only just keep the action from the first half into the second half they would never see teams come back….

  14. AnonymousODG

    Looks like Charlotte finally managed to drag the Knicks down to their level. Felton quietly scored 16 pts. That’s encouraging.

  15. yellowboy90

    7 Off boards for Melo. Didn’t like his fade away game in the 4th or the TOs in the 3rd. He messed up the flow and needs to pass it out more. I would also like more action weak side but he can still pass it out to Felton or diagonal to Shump.

    I think he needs some sessions with Hopla to get his form back because it looks off. His foot placement and balance just doesn’t look right and it seems like he is rushing.

    JMO

  16. yellowboy90

    Is it me or does Felton look like he did when he was with Denver playing off Lawson. He and Shump have been shooting great.

  17. BigBlueAL

    yellowboy90:
    7 Off boards for Melo. Didn’t like his fade away game in the 4th or the TOs in the 3rd. He messed up the flow and needs to pass it out more. I would also like more action weak side but he can still pass it out to Felton or diagonal to Shump.

    I think he needs some sessions with Hopla to get his form back because it looks off. His foot placement and balance just doesn’t look right and it seems like he is rushing.

    JMO

    I think his poor shooting is strictly due to horrible shot selection. When he is spotting up and taking normal catch and shoot jumpers or taking his fadeaway jumper not over a double team just simply against one-on-one coverage they still seem to all go in. He just takes so many dumb forced shots (similar to Kobe) its impossible for his efficiency to be great unless he is on fire from 3pt range. Also he misses so many shots at the rim but scores on the 2nd or 3rd FGA which doesnt help his shooting numbers either.

    He is still getting to the FT line alot though which is important. But whatever for me I dont really care too much. As long as he keeps it to only a few stupid shots a game it is what it is.

  18. ruruland

    Felton has a TS nearing .560 since he came back from the hand injury, well over .600 in the last 14 games.

    Interesting that most of that has come after the bandage was taken off the hand.

    Also interesting to note that his usage is around 19 since he came back (It was 27 prior to the injury). The mid-range shot is out of the Knicks algorithm. They aren’t asking him to create offense after a failed middle pnr, they go to different side screen and roles which often lead to Melo post-ups if it’s not initially there.

    Felton is getting to pick his spots to attack, and the free hand is allowing him to finish.

    .600 TS isn’t sustainable obviously, but Felton can be at least be league average efficiency with very good assist/turnover ratio if he’s not asked to isolate.

    All of this we talked about before the year. Woodson and his staff have added layers to the offense based on the strengths and weaknesses they observed in the first half, and it’s allowed Felton to do what he is really good at.

    In his last 15 games, Shumpert now has an offensive rating of 115 with a TS about .610.

    Shumpert is so important to the offense because the ball often ends up in his hands in the corners out of continuity.

    The defense is often stretched out when he receives the ball, either off a Melo double-team or a high screen and role, which gives Shump the angle to drive or a wide-open 3-pointer.

    His form, which has looked great since he returned, has really put the kibosh on the simpletons like THCJ who apply huge samples without context to specific situations.

    Shumpert is getting the exact same kind shots that Aaron Afflalo used to get in Denver.

    Some in transition, but mainly open 3s in the corner or the slot, and driving opportunities against rotating defenders with an open lane.

    if you don’t believe that shot distribution and role matter, take a look at Afflalo’s numbers the last four years.

    Cont…

  19. ruruland

    Affalo is a wonderful comparison for Shumpert’s floor. He came out of UCLA as a gritty defender, albeit with limited perceived athleticism, and dearth of offensive skills.

    In his first few years he worked primarily on spot-up shooting, and then added ball-handling and footwork (he initially had the same problem Shumpert had earlier in they year when he would step out of bounds on baseline corner drives)

    Look at his efficiency over the years
    Year one: ..494 TS, .208 3pt %
    Year two: .548 TS, .402 3pt %

    Then he came to Denver, where he started and primarily played in the corners in a Melo-centric, tilt the defense to create ball movement and open shot offense.

    Year three: .576 TS, .434 3 pt %
    Year four: .620 TS, .423 3 pt %

    Melo is traded to New York. Afflalo has added quite a bit to his off the dribble game, and his usage skyrockets after the Melo trade.

    Check out Afflalo’s numbers pre and post Melo trade in 2010-11

    Pre-Melo trade: .631 TS, 14.4 usage
    Post-Melo trade: .571 TS, 18.8 usage

    2009 playoffs with Melo: 746 ts, 14 usage
    2010 playoffs no Melo: .453 ts, 21.8 usage
    2011 playoffs no Melo: .471 ts, 17.8 usage

    Year five, without Melo: 584 TS, 19 usage
    Year six, Orlando: .527 TS, 22.6 usage

    Afflalo’s shot distribution has changed completely in Orlando. He’s a creator there. While still very effective as a drive against the rotation and spot-up shooter, those aren’t the shots he gets now.

    Shumpert is better in transition and much more explosive on his drives. He has a better handle and came into the league with more offensive skills.

    I see no reason that he can’t be the Knicks Aaron Afflalo for a few years until he can add to his skills in the pick and roll.

    As an aside, he’s definitely better than Afflalo defensively, who’s always been overrated at the NBA level.

  20. ruruland

    JR Smith, last 12 games: 26.5 ppg, .600 TS (on the dot)

    9 straight games of five or more free-throws, averaging 8.77 in that span.

    Previous long streak of five or more free-throws? Three, done multiple times.

    This is a guy who averages 3.7 ft per 36 in his career.

    We’re either looking at a once-in-a-career kind of statistical anomaly, or with the help of Mike Woodson, the light-bulb finally came on for a guy who’s always had the ability.

    Pretty incredible either way.

  21. ruruland

    yellowboy90:
    7 Off boards for Melo. Didn’t like his fade away game in the 4th or the TOs in the 3rd. He messed up the flow and needs to pass it out more. I would also like more action weak side but he can still pass it out to Felton or diagonal to Shump.

    I think he needs some sessions with Hopla to get his form back because it looks off. His foot placement and balance just doesn’t look right and it seems like he is rushing.

    JMO

    He is totally out of rhythm right now and he’s working to get it back instead of seeing the floor. You are absolutely right.

    He’s got 11 games to find it before the real season starts.

  22. Glew

    What happens if JR keeps this high level of play up for the rest of the season and into the playoffs. Surely, a team will offer him more than what we would like to pay. Will signing his bro be enough to keep him next year? You got to believe he loves playing here with Melo, Woody and co. Would JR hold out to 2015 when we could make a fair assessment provided he continues on this sort of progression? How bout Kenyon? http://hoopshype.com/salaries/new_york.htm

  23. lavor postell

    Ruru has Melo’s shot distribution changed during JR’s hot run? Usage? Not sure if you have some kind of breakdown in terms of what kind of looks Melo is getting when on the floor with JR. Over the last couple of games especially, it seems to me that Melo has kind of let JR do his thing when he was rolling. They seem to have this strange desire to let the other indulge himself offensively sometimes.

  24. Brian Cronin

    Yeah, the JR/Melo dynamic is absolutely fascinating. Melo is clearly completely fine with JR doing his thing (especially during this crazy hot streak), but it definitely does create this really odd dynamic where it is basically like each player shuts down when the other guy is ISO-ing. Mostly because each guy knows that the odds are that he is going to take the shot in the end, but when JR does kick out, it tends to be to a guard. Same with Melo. They’re not really passing to each other (neither player assisted each other all game long). As yellowboy and ruru note, it is most likely a matter of Melo just being out of sorts, but it is still quite interesting to see. A strict “you go now I go” thing.

  25. ruruland

    Glew:
    What happens if JR keeps this high level of play up for the rest of the season and into the playoffs. Surely, a team will offer him more than what we would like to pay. Will signing his bro be enough to keep him next year? You got to believe he loves playing here with Melo, Woody and co. Would JR hold out to 2015 when we could make a fair assessment provided he continues on this sort of progression? How bout Kenyon? http://hoopshype.com/salaries/new_york.htm

    What makes you think teams will be eager to throw a ton of money at JR when it’s apparent his success is largely dependent on his relationship with the head coach?

    You’ve got think JR is aware of it, too.

    I don’t see any playoff-type teams wanting to hand JR the reigns to the offense, which would be the only reason to risk giving him a bigger deal.

    I don’t see any contending teams giving JR more than what the Knicks can offer.

    That leaves the chance of bottom feeding teams. Would JR want to make a couple million more in the short run to play on lotto teams?

    It’s very difficult to see a fit somewhere else in the league.
    Atlanta, Memphis (Hollinger really going to throw money at JR?)

    I think both JR and potential teams understand that there are some unique circumstances to his success in NY.

    His salary would get tripled next year, and he’d only have two wait two years to get that $10 million type of deal.

  26. ruruland

    lavor postell:
    Ruru has Melo’s shot distribution changed during JR’s hot run?Usage?Not sure if you have some kind of breakdown in terms of what kind of looks Melo is getting when on the floor with JR.Over the last couple of games especially, it seems to me that Melo has kind of let JR do his thing when he was rolling.They seem to have this strange desire to let the other indulge himself offensively sometimes.

    I don’t think Melo’s numbers change much, but if JR keeps this up defenses will begin to send people to him, which could change the dynamic a bit.

    JR’s efficiency goes up with Melo on the floor. In fact, Herring wrote recently that 44 % of JR’s baskets are assisted with Melo on the floor and 36 % when Melo is on the bench.

  27. Brian Cronin

    What happens if JR keeps this high level of play up for the rest of the season and into the playoffs. Surely, a team will offer him more than what we would like to pay. Will signing his bro be enough to keep him next year? You got to believe he loves playing here with Melo, Woody and co. Would JR hold out to 2015 when we could make a fair assessment provided he continues on this sort of progression? How bout Kenyon?

    The fascinating stuff continues!

    I tend to think that JR’s shitty play from January to February will be enough to depress his market so that the Knicks will be able to re-sign him. That said, as much as JR professes to love playing here (and I absolutely believe that he does), the simple fact of the matter is that no one offered him more money last season when he signed here from China and no one offered him more money this offseason when you take the under-the-table “we’ll get you next season” aspect of JR’s current deal (other teams were willing to go multiple years at the $3 million mini-MLE, but obviously that’s not a better deal for him than staying here for $2.87 million this year and then get at least $5 million next year guaranteed).

    So this offseason will be the first chance we’ll get to see whether JR’s love for New York will outweigh the financial benefits from outside offers. I’d like to say that if a team offered him a multi-year deal at $6 million per he would turn it down for the Knicks’ $5 million offer, but I really don’t know. But if a team is willing to go multiple years at $7-8 million, he’s most likely gone.

    I think that his sustained shitty play for two months should be enough that he won’t get those $7-8 million offers, but obviously if he keeps playing like this for the rest of the season and into the playoffs, he most certainly will. That would suck.

    As for Martin, I don’t have the slightest idea. A. He loves playing here and B. He loves playing most of all, especially for a good team. So I think he’d want to re-sign here, but if his excellent play draws interest from other teams, I dunno. If a team offers him the mini-MLE, how does he turn that down? Would the Knicks give him the mini-MLE? Perhaps. so I think Martin will most likely be back next year. JR, I’d like to say yes, as well. But damn, he is playing like a legit All-Star right now, so I dunno. It’s kind of scary, really. Let’s hope it doesn’t happen!

  28. Brian Cronin

    I don’t think Melo’s numbers change much, but if JR keeps this up defenses will begin to send people to him, which could change the dynamic a bit.

    JR’s efficiency goes up with Melo on the floor. In fact, Herring wrote recently that 44 % of JR’s baskets are assisted with Melo on the floor and 36 % when Melo is on the bench.

    Oh yeah, while the two guys don’t do as much interaction between the two of them, just having the other guy on the court is great because it creates openings. You can’t double JR with Melo out there and the same goes for Melo.

  29. Brian Cronin

    No doubt about it, right? I mean, few players in the NBA period ever play this well! It’s awesome to see. At the game, I made sure to tell my wife to pay attention every time JR had the ball. “Just watch, he’ll get whatever he wants. That’s how locked in he is right now.” And sure enough, that’s pretty much exactly what happened all game long. He got whatever he wanted every time.

  30. ruruland

    Jamal Crawford signed for 4 years 21 million with LAC and never had issues to the extent Smith has.

    IF a team could sign Smith and hire Woodson as a package deal, then yeah, maybe they’d go all in.

  31. Brian Cronin

    A couple of major differences, though.

    1. Crawford was coming off a bad season
    2. Crawford is five years older than JR
    3. Crawford had already gotten his big money deal early in his career. JR’s never gotten his big money deal.
    4. Uhm…I could have sworn I had a #4, but I can’t think of it right now, but I think the first three are pretty darn significant

  32. ruruland

    Brian Cronin:
    No doubt about it, right? I mean, few players in the NBA period ever play this well! It’s awesome to see.

    Interesting quotes in there.

  33. yellowboy90

    Like Bigblue said Melo shot selection is taking him out of Rhythm and his one on one play when he massages the ball has hurt the rhythm. I don’t mind quick one on one plays but to take 10 secs to beat a big man off the dribble is not called for. He needs to just drive give a little hesitation and go up or kick out. Basically take a little page out of JR book. JR is putting on a footwork clinic right now below the foul line.

    I am not truly worried because he is capitalizing on his misses with his put backs.

  34. lavor postell

    You’ve got to like the Knicks’ position in negotiating with JR. This franchise has actually shown a real interest and commitment to improving and maturing as a player and person. This is a guy who Byron Scott threw to the dogs as soon as he could, he gets moved to Chicago who immediately waves him and Denver picks him up. Then you put a volatile guy like JR with Karl who does not do well at all with handling immaturity. Karl constantly got on him in the media, as he is wont to do, which is exactly the opposite of what JR needs from his coach.

    Obviously in New York his initial experience was with D’Antoni, who like Karl engages in the passive aggressive media bullshit rather than actually ever directly confronting a player. Luckily JR did not have to live through much other than Melo and the team in general quitting on a coach who gave them no reason to fight for him with his ridiculous inability to change his system in any capacity to fit personnel.

    Woodson is the first coach who has really tried to get the best from JR. I’ve lamented many times about the long leash Woodson gave JR, but right now we are reaping the fruits of Woody’s work. Also we all know Chris Smith’s spot in the NBA is contingent on JR re-upping with the Knicks. No other team would do that.

    I also think one thing Knicks management has nailed is created a team that has a real sense of camaraderie. Melo, Kenyon and JR balled together for years and Melo and JR in particular seem to be real tight bros. Felton did play with both JR and Martin for his half a season in Denver. He played with Camby and Kurt in Portland. Kidd has played with Chandler, Martin and Anthony (2008 Olympics). Getting all of these guys together on the same team I think can go a long way in guys making sacrifices. This also is contingent on Melo taking a little discount on his next contract.

    I’m going to enjoy the rest of the season and try not to worry about it until then. I’m certain I…

  35. yellowboy90

    Brian Cronin: Definitely.

    But man, that it took him this long to realize the importance of driving to the basket? Weird.

    Next year I hope to be saying this about Tyson and his wonderful jump shot. No joke, I really think he has it in him.

  36. BigBlueAL

    yellowboy90:
    Like Bigblue said Melo shot selection is taking him out of Rhythm and his one on one play when he massages the ball has hurt the rhythm. I don’t mind quick one on one plays but to take 10 secs to beat a big man off the dribble is not called for. He needs to just drive give a little hesitation and go up or kick out. Basically take a little page out of JR book. JR is putting on a footwork clinic right now below the foul line.

    I am not truly worried because he is capitalizing on his misses with his put backs.

    I actually dont mind when Melo holds the ball and takes his time cause usually when he does that he is looking for the double and will pass if necessary or drive when the double doesnt come or if it comes too late. I cant stand when he catches and shoots immediately w/o being open, especially when its not a 3pter. Or when he catches and shoots within a couple of seconds when facing a defender. I get it when he is on fire and is doing a heat check but many times thats not the case. Its why I like it when he posts up because usually he takes his time and passes more often when necessary in those situations.

  37. BigBlueAL

    Guys, lets not get carried away yet with JR and big contract offers. He is not too far removed from a 4 for 20 shooting performance which was the last time the Knicks lost. His career as a Knick before this amazing stretch has been pretty awful shooting % wise. Plus Im sure his reputation is still not exactly sterling around the NBA just like KMart’s apparently wasnt.

    Now if he keeps this up for the rest of the season and especially in the playoffs then it might be alot more likely he gets an offer greater than the 5mil per year the Knicks can give him. Even with that though still cant imagine a team with cap space (especially a contending team) is going to give JR 8-10mil per year contract.

    Of course Im being a bit selfish in saying that because I want him to stay so Im hoping 5mil for next season is enough to keep him here lol.

  38. Brian Cronin

    Oh yeah, don’t get me wrong, I’m just looking it as an intellectual exercise. I’m not seriously going to think about it until after the season ends. Then I will think about it a lot. ;)

  39. Juany8

    Looking at the standings, it seems the West’s strength has been a tad overrated this year. San Antonio and OKC are monsters, but the rest of the teams have dropped off a bit (winning in Memphis on a back to back without Chandler was pretty big). In fact if the Knicks can keep winning like this their last 9 games, they have a chance at the 4th best record in the league. They are only 2 losses behind the Denver-Memphis-Clippers trio, and they’ve had the worst health of any contender in the league. Seriously as awesome as Martin has been these past few games, losing Sheed and Camby all year as a bigger blow, as was losing Chandler for this entire winning streak lol. Melo and Felton have missed a bunch of games, and have played quite a few more through obvious pain, which speaks well to their toughness but not their shooting percentage. Ronnie Brewer went from looking like the offseason pickup of the year to getting shipped out for practically nothing (although the Knicks have a good track record with late picks) and Amar’e was actually looking dominant on offense until he was reinjured.

    It would be freaking incredible if after all that they managed to get the number 2 seed in the East and the 4th best record in the league. Don’t know that it will happen since 2 games is a lot to make up and Chandler still isn’t healthy, but it wasn’t that long ago that the only happy people on this site were Jeremy Lin fans and the stats crowd.

  40. Juany8

    Also, I feel like the fact that John Wall got 53 free throws in the last 3 games is not getting enough attention. Especially since 2 of the teams he did it against are contenders. I was one of the very few people that still had faith in John Wall ending up good lol. If he gets over his injury issues and the Wizards place some good players around him, they can at least be a fun team to watch that makes the playoffs and provides an entertaining series or 2. Plus there’s just something about Wall that makes me feel like he could be the best defensive PG in the league. An underrated factor if you’ve ever watched how easily Kyrie Irving gets lit right back up when he’s putting on an awesome scoring display.

  41. Brian Cronin

    Defensive Player of the Year last year, Sixth Man of the Year possibly this year, it is good to see the Knicks starting to pick up awards! Maybe Melo will give the Knicks their first MVP in literally decades.

  42. Brian Cronin

    By the way, going back to Jim’s discussion with the Bobcat guys, how do you not re-sign Henderson? During the game, I was telling my wife to keep an eye on Henderson as he was one of the few players on the team that I could see getting real burn with pretty much every team in the NBA (obviously MKG would be taken by any team, as well, but I don’t know how much of a role he’d play on really good teams. Kemba Walker is the other Bobcat who could play on any squad) and that was before he erupted for 35 points. At the very least, you trade him after you re-sign him. As a restricted free agent, Charlotte will let the market dictate Henderson’s price. It would be hilariously sad if Henderson ended up making more than JR Smith.

    Also, I was quite disappointed (pleased as a Knick fan, disappointed as a basketball fan) at how Charlotte failed to attack the basket pretty much at all in the first half. That’s clearly the Knicks’ major weakness and they didn’t go after it. They did in the second half and, shock of all shocks, it worked well for them. Very odd coaching decision by Dunlap.

  43. ephus

    Good JR is one of the 20 best players in the NBA. Woodson is the key to good JR.

    My read of the tea leaves (worth what you are paying) is that JR is the payoff for letting Lin walk. Knicks may have told JR be is getting PAID Lin’s $ in 2014-15. What will the NBA do if JR does not use Early Bird rights this offseason, which would allow him to get to Full Bird rights a year earlier? It sure would raise questions of an under-the-table deal.

    Thinking of writing a full column on this. Any takers?

  44. jon abbey

    Juany8:
    Looking at the standings, it seems the West’s strength has been a tad overrated this year.

    heh, by no one more than you, Mr. “it’s going to take 50 wins to get into the Western playoffs”. could you please admit I was right on that one so I can stop citing it? thanks.

  45. jon abbey

    why is everyone giving Woodson credit for “good JR” and no one is giving Martin credit? Woodson’s been here all year, Martin’s showing up and then JR playing like this is no coincidence.

  46. ephus

    jon abbey:
    why is everyone giving Woodson credit for “good JR” and no one is giving Martin credit? Woodson’s been here all year, Martin’s showing up and then JR playing like this is no coincidence.

    Because JR Smith actually started playing like this earlier in the season, just not doing it consistently. K-Mart played with JR in Denver, and these were not the results. Woodson clearly has a different relationship with JR than George Karl ever did.

  47. Juany8

    jon abbey: heh, by no one more than you, Mr. “it’s going to take 50 wins to get into the Western playoffs”. could you please admit I was right on that one so I can stop citing it? thanks.

    Haha I already admitted I messed that one up so sure, you certainly won that little debate. A .500 team might actually make the playoffs….

  48. AvonBarksdale

    If landry fields can go get that much money, jr smith if continuing this play throughout the playoffs like we all want him to do how much money could be a lot of money…in my version of the future we win a championship and he wins sixth man of the year award. i love that all the injuries have made coach woodson figure out to use some of the players on this team that probably wouldn’t have gotten minutes at the right times. I agree Martin deserves some credit for coming in and getting everyone excited but really they saw the schedule, the heat was streaking, the playoffs coming, division lead in trouble and amare out and four games lost in a row and flipped the switch back to the approach everyone had early in the season and now we streaking, we streaking. Hopefully we step on bostons throat and win by 30 the entire game for a change : )

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