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Monday, December 22, 2014

Five Questions To Be Answered From Game 1

Based on game one, the Knicks have a few things to ponder.

1. Can New York reclaim the pace?

Even though the Knicks were leading most of the way, the Celtics dictated the tempo. There were a lot of offensive rebounds and a few fast breaks. Basketball-reference calculates the pace at 83.3, which is below Boston’s turtle-esque season average of 90.4. The Celtics dominated the glass with a rebound percentage of 41.7%, but they gave away an unhealthy 31%. Can or will the Knicks attempt to speed things up to get Boston out of their comfort zone? To do so they’d probably need a PG that is more willing to run and limit those second opportunities. (See more on these below)

2. Was the Knicks defense good or the Celtics offense bad?

Ray Allen had a good night (24 pts on 15 fga), but Garnett, Pierce, and Rondo seemed to struggle at times. Amar’e Stoudemire looks particularly interested in defense, and Turiaf looked invigorated. New York had 9 blocks in total. Answering this question is sometimes tricky, but I don’t think it was a Celtic off-night as much as the Knicks answered the opening bell. Actually the bigger question is can New York keep up the intensity on the defensive end?

3. What does the loss of Chauncey Billups mean?

Billups was awful in game 1. He seemed content taking just about any shot he wished, many of them ill-advised. It was like he channeled the poor decision making of Jamal Crawford with the stubbornness of John Starks. Billups played more like an aging All Star than a championship tested veteran. (Note to KB readers: remember this game the next time a pundit talks endlessly about the importance of playoff experience.)

Toney Douglas is a good backup, good enough to be a starter in the NBA. So this should be a gain for the Knicks, right? Perhaps not. Douglas’ main skill is defense, but it might be negated by Rajon Rondo. The Celtics guard lacks an outside shot, so teams tend to play off him in the half court set. The Knicks were content to let Rondo have any shot he wished outside of 16 feet. Douglas’ style of defense is normally to be aggressive and hound his opponent end to end. If the Knicks allow Toney Douglas to Do What Toney Douglas normally Do, they risk Rondo tearing them apart in the paint. If they don’t do, they’ll neutralize one of Toney’s main skills.

Additionally the loss of Billups means the rise of Anthony Carter, who will see more playing time behind Douglas. Carter is an active defender, but he’s a black hole on offense. Playing him more than 10 or 15 minutes a night is bad for the Knicks and their fans’ blood pressure. Usually the problem with injury isn’t so much the gap between the starter and the reserve, but rather the gap between the reserve and the third stringer. This is especially true as there is a small gap between Douglas and Billups, and a chasm between Douglas and Carter.

4. What other adjustments should the Knicks make?

Jared Jeffries did some nice glasswork, at least on the offensive end, and he enables the Knicks to play zone defense at times. But he was brutal elsewhere. Jeffries blew a few a couple of gimmies at the rim, which is unacceptable in such a close game. New York would be better served carving some minutes out for Shelden Williams, who is a better defensive rebounder, and is at least a capable scorer under the hoop. If Shelden is healthy, he’s be an improvement over Jeffries in this series.

Landry Fields was invisible, possibly because Chauncey Billups was so willing to take any shot he pleased. The Knicks need to attempt more back-door plays for Fields early, and see if they can ease him into the game. However I think it’s a bit early to abandon him in favor of Bill Walker. Remember that a lot of the offensive rebounds that the Celtics got were of the long variety, normally the type a guard like Fields tracks down. And perhaps the key to running more is putting two of New York’s best rebounders on the floor, along with a point guard that is willing to speed things up.

5. Can the officiating get worse?

In theory, yes, but not likely. We’re not even two full games into the playoffs and so far:

* The Knuggets lost a game because the officials failed to call offensive interference on Kendrick Perkins’ basket.

* The Knicks are upset over the call on Carmelo and the non-call on Garnett tripping Douglas both which cost them the victory.

* A shot clock error gave Memphis an extra three pointer in the first quarter.

* Nate McMillan has been fined $35,000 for criticizing the officiating, and Doug Collins would be right behind him if he wasn’t fearful of emptying his wallet.

* With a minute left and a 5 point deficit in Game 2 of the Pacers-Bulls, the refs missed a travel on Hibbert but called a dubious offensive foul call instead.

I imagine the league’s front office is not happy that so many of the stories are about the zebras, and would rather it be about the action. Even it were just chance that all these bad calls occurred, odds are that things will get better and revert to the norm. On the other hand if you subscribe to the theory of make-up calls, the Knicks have some whistle karma stored on their side.

55 comments on “Five Questions To Be Answered From Game 1

  1. ww007

    Yes make-up calls exist. LJ’s 4-point play against the Pacers would be a prime example (would anyone argue against this?).

    Whether or not the refs have the balls to do it is another thing. I certainly wouldn’t expect it to happen in Boston.

  2. cgreene

    I think the biggest question is can Melo have a better game than last game while Amare staying at the level he was in game 1. If that happens would have to think the Knicks have a great chance of winning.

  3. Nick C.

    I hope that the defensive level remains. They seemed to swarm but intelligently or at least without leaving guys wide open who shouldn’t be. Billups must be the ugliest statistically efficient player I have ever seen, but will Anthony Carter be able to be effective. As for Melo, I really hope that the good shooting especially from 3 he had over the end of the season was the result of some actual work and refinements rather than just a random hot streak theat has come and gone.

  4. latke

    Re: the defense

    I have to wonder if the reason the knicks played so well on defense had to do with their faltering offense. Let’s say the Knicks start off hot. Everything is falling. They’re drawing fouls, etc. Will they then let up on the defensive end and let the Celtics keep up? I feel like in order to win this series, we need to win tonight and tomorrow, and in one of those games we have to really embarrass the Celts, make them doubt themselves.

  5. Spree8nyk8

    Great write up Mike, agree with about 95% of it. Couple of opinions I had that I was thinking about is 1) I think the Knicks would be best served by playing Rondo exactly the way they played him in game one, dare him to shoot and neutralize his ability to drive. I had a talk with a celtics fan friend of mine last night and told him that he’s pretty screwed, because even if the Knicks are not able to knock off Boston, they have laid down a really good blueprint for how it can be done. 2) In my opinion where Toney has drove most of us nuts this season by having a bunch of WTF games, he really didn’t seem to have them when he had to step in as the starter. And maybe it’s as simple as the difference between having a bench mentality of “i have to bring a spark” to having a starter mentality of I need to not screw this up. One way or another I think Toney has been at his best when asked to fill big shoes. 3) Our rebounding was terrible, and I think more Sheldon and less Jeffries would definitely be good. But at the same time Jeffries was an animal on defense in game one. He took charges, slapped balls away, batted passes, and was just a menace. And the rebounding as bad as it was…..I’m not sure how to put this, because the last thing I wanna do is make an excuse for the rebounding which definitely is bad. But it seemed to me that there was an enormous amount of irregular bounces, be it extremely long rebounds of long shots, or like the rebound that jermaine oneal got to tie up the game, it kinda richocheted straight down and bounced off Amar’es shoulder. Idk if theres anything you can do about those. I think alot of our offensive rebounds were the same type of rebounds too honestly. Lastly I think maybe Bill Walker should be getting a starting nod over Landry right now. Or at least he should have a very short leash. And it’s not even as much of landry being invisible as it is BW actually was on a tear and never seemed to get back in.

    Thats my…

  6. Spree8nyk8

    cgreene:
    I think the biggest question is can Melo have a better game than last game while Amare staying at the level he was in game 1.If that happens would have to think the Knicks have a great chance of winning.

    I think if that happens we have a good chance of blowing them out honestly. I thought before the playoffs started Boston was our best matchup because they had slumped off so badly. I didn’t see anything in game 1 that made me feel like that has changed. We were leading with 22 seconds left despite Melo, billups, and Fields all being subpar, how often are we leading in that situation against ANYONE? Honestly I thought we were about to win that game with our “C” game. I do not think right now that Boston can handle our A game.

  7. stratomatic

    I’m opposed to all these fines that players and coaches get for criticizing the officiating. When the officials keep making critical errors you should be allowed to express yourself publicly.

    What’s next Siberia?

  8. Mike Kurylo Post author

    BTW if you watch the video of Carmelo’s last shot again, look how wide open Toney Douglas is. There isn’t a Celtic within 20 feet of him.

    I’m sorry Carmelo Anthony, but even Michael Jordan knew to pass it to the lesser known guard for a wide open three. Next time give it up.

  9. cgreene

    Spree8nyk8:
    can’t really argue that one

    I actually can argue with that slightly. Although the end result is the same today. MJ at 26 actually had not learned to pass to the open shooters in the most clutch situations yet. Phil taught him that and we did not see that in the 1st part of his career. Of course that’s why he couldn’t win yet at that point.

  10. cgreene

    There was a touch of irony in my post. I, of course, wish Melo had passed it. MDA addressed it by saying “we both wish we could have gotten a better shot.” in other words MDA addressed it with him.

  11. Z-man

    Good write-up, Mike. Not sure I agree with your take on TD’s defense. He seems very good at playing the passing lanes as well, and laying off Rondo might free him up to do some of that. I wonder whether Celts will try to isolate Rondo in the low post from time to time, that wouldn’t fly vs. Billups .

  12. The Honorable Cock Jowles

    cgreene: I actually can argue with that slightly.Although the end result is the same today.MJ at 26 actually had not learned to pass to the open shooters in the most clutch situations yet.Phil taught him that and we did not see that in the 1st part of his career.Of course that’s why he couldn’t win yet at that point.

    MJ at 26 was also one of the greatest players of all-time already, and that’s not even a top-3 season for him. Like LeBron with the Cavs, passing isn’t the smart play, most of the time. (Phil taught him to pass when he was surrounded by all-stars and HoF’ers.)

    Carmelo, on the other hand, holds a season-season high WS/48 of 0.153. If you’re wondering: as a Bull, MJ’s career LOW was 0.160, and that was as an injured 22 year old.

    The two are not analogous.

  13. Mike Kurylo Post author

    Z-man:
    Good write-up, Mike. Not sure I agree with your take on TD’s defense.He seems very good at playing the passing lanes as well, and laying off Rondo might free him up to do some of that.I wonder whether Celts will try to isolate Rondo in the low post from time to time, that wouldn’t fly vs. Billups .

    As good as Douglas is, I don’t see picking off Rondo left & right. As for off the ball, gambling like that on Rondo means that if he misses the steal, Rondo has a clear path at the hoop.

    I’m actually really curious on how this will play out. I just don’t see Douglas’ defense as the same advantage it would normally be. Hope I’m wrong.

  14. tastycakes

    Interestingly, D Rose has given the ball up (to Kyle Korver) in big late game situations in both of Chicago’s wins this postseason.

    Also interesting, Derrick Rose is 22 years old.

    I don’t think he’s “the next MJ” and I also don’t think he should have been MVP (LeBron or D-Ho or Chris Paul all did more with less, and in LeBron’s case, look at the damage he did by leaving CLE. That’s VALUE in reverse!) but man, the kid can play ball. And I am fixated on us losing him (and Russell Westbrook!) when the Bulls jumped us in that lottery. Dammit!

    I have no hope of winning this series. If we got a series lead, I might start to believe, but I’m far too rational to think we’re suddenly going to take 4 of 6 from this Celtics team. Faltering or not, those are 4 future Hall of Famers and champions in that starting line-up, and they have had our number. Ray Ray’s shot was like the least surprising thing in the world the other night.

    Anyway, still psyched for tonight, and hoping for a huge road win (and first playoff win in a DECADE)!

  15. tastycakes

    Funny, I just presumed that Rose was already MVP, even though he isn’t. It’s like the most preordained thing ever. The media gets all lathered up and opinions can often be contagious.

  16. Spree8nyk8

    I’m not really sure what anyone (let alone a fan) saw in game 1 that would make you think we can’t beat that team. Any road team in a best of seven aims for 1 of the first 2. We should have gotten that one win with our C game. I don’t see many times that we’ll play that badly, let alone play that badly and have a chance to win. I don’t see anything about the Celtics that even remotely looks like they are flipping a switch. We are going to win this series.

  17. stratomatic

    The public/media always gets all lathered up over any player that can do some things on the court that others can’t even if their overall value isn’t as great as some less flashy players.

    To me, Rose isn’t even in the MVP conversation despite his ability to do things that no one else in the league can do. In the end, he may become an MVP caliber player, but right now the MVP is either Howard, James or CP3. Rose is somewhere in the middle of the second tier at best.

  18. Z-man

    I am worried that Jermaine O’Neal will continue to be a huge factor in this series. He’s not just a scrub who had a good game, he is 32 year-old well-rounded former all-star caliber player beset with injury problems, playing against possibly the worst trio of centers in playoff history. He doesn’t really need to do much to be effective against us. Kinda like McDyess, or Kurt Thomas, he can be effective in a limited role. Even if he breaks down in game 5, by then it may be enough to seal our fate.

    In that sense, having TD replacing Billups might be a plus.That slow pace simply doesn’t play to our advantage.

  19. stratomatic

    For the Knicks to beat the Celtics they are going to have to get a great game from multiple players and play intelligently in crunch time. The first is not out of the question, but I don’t think this is the highest basketball IQ team in the league.

    The incremental value of the Celtics great defense and slow pace in the playoffs is that most of the time they are either going to be in control of the game or it’s going to be fairly close. If the game is still up for grabs with a few minutes to go in the 4th quarter, they have a huge edge. At that point it’s going to come down decision making, the ability to execute under extreme duress, and getting key stops. That kind of contest usually goes to the team that has more experience and that has been more successful in those situations in the past.

    It’s not an accident that the Knicks keep playing what appears to be great games that could go either way against the Celtics, but the Celtics keep winning.

  20. iserp

    i would have Fields on Rondo and Toney Douglas chasing Ray Allen (and the referees whistling illegal screens).

    I think Fields isn’t a good man to man defender, but he has instincts for the passing lanes and rebounds, and that matters against rondo.

  21. ess-dog

    What’s encouraging is that Boston’s post play is clearly lacking. KG has finally hit the wall in my opinion (karma?) and JONeal played “ok” but far from great.

    But Boston’s perimeter players scare me. Rondo/Allen/Pierce are so tough. This will be a tricky matchup defensively b/c TD will have to lay off Rondo and dare him to shoot, while helping on the other two (Allen and Pierce.) While TD is a good defender, this is a difficult defensive assignment for a young player.

    But, he can also help by going off on offense, both by hitting threes and by penetrating the lane. If we get 20+ efficient points each from Melo, Stat and TD, I think we definitely win tonight.

  22. Z-man

    stratomatic:
    The public/media always gets all lathered up over any player that can do some things on the court that others can’t even if their overall value isn’t as great as some less flashy players.

    To me, Rose isn’t even in the MVP conversation despite his ability to do things that no one else in the league can do. In the end, he may become an MVP caliber player, but right now the MVP is either Howard, James or CP3.Rose is somewhere in the middle of the second tier at best.

    After 2 games in the playoffs:

    Rose: PER 35.4 TS% .596 ORtg 130 DRtg 103 WS48 .423
    James: PER 30.3 TS% .574 ORtg 132 DRtg 92 WS48 .397

    I know it’s a regular season award and 2 playoff wins does not mean everything, but at what point will the “Derrick Rose doesn’t belong in the same conversation with LeBron, etc.” talk stop?

  23. stratomatic

    I like Billups a lot and think he still has something left in the tank, but he hasn’t been as good for the Knicks as he was for the Nuggets this season. Granted he has been hurt for a lot of those games, but I don’t think we are going to lose a lot with him out. As long as Carter gives us some solid minutes off the bench, it’s going to come down to Amare/Melo/Douglas on offense and whether Fields, Williams, Turiaf etc… give us a lot of the other stuff.

  24. David Crockett

    Great write up Mike,

    I may not even catch the game tonight as I am knee-deep in grading and working on a draft for tomorrow, but adjustments…

    Guard — DWTDD to start, but MDA may need to gamble on Roger Mason as the primary backup and move AC to change of pace third guard. I have little faith in Mason, but this is why he’s on the team in theory. I think he’s a reasonable matchup against Delonte West as well.

    Oh, and Mike, ditto what you said about Fields. My eyes may deceive me but it seems like Fields is better at denying Allen looks. Douglas just isn’t big enough to much bother Allen.

    Jeffries/Shelden — I like the idea of giving the more physical Williams some burn against O’Neal just to keep him off the boards. He was the difference in game 1 imo.

    Perhaps more to the point on rebounding, in game 1 NY allowed Boston to ride them under the basket all night. Refs (non)calls aside, we forced enough misses to win. We allowed far too many possessions to go on for far too long. Melo is taking a lot of grief for his poor shot selection. I’m far more disappointed in the fact that this was a 4 board night for him.

  25. David Crockett

    ess-dog:

    But Boston’s perimeter players scare me.Rondo/Allen/Pierce are so tough.This will be a tricky matchup defensively b/c TD will have to lay off Rondo and dare him to shoot, while helping on the other two (Allen and Pierce.)While TD is a good defender, this is a difficult defensive assignment for a young player.

    Rondo is a horrible matchup for Douglas for the reasons Mike mentioned above, but also because Douglas’ shot comes and goes. If he’s cold it will allows Rondo to roam on defense and wreak havoc whereas Doc Rivers didn’t have Rondo help much off Billups.

    I honestly don’t think NY fans can hope for much more than a draw in that matchup. (I wouldn’t be surprise to see Melo run some of the half-court stuff.) That’s why I endorse the semi-desperation move of giving Roger Mason some run. We have to at least try to make some hay when Delonte West is in the game.

  26. stratomatic

    Z-man: I know it’s a regular season award and 2 playoff wins does not mean everything, but at what point will the “Derrick Rose doesn’t belong in the same conversation with LeBron, etc.” talk stop

    At the point where his production on both ends on the court actually matches the hype on a day in and day out basis over the long haul.

  27. Z-man

    stratomatic: At the point where his production on both ends on the court actually matches the hype on a day in and day out basis over the long haul.

    Not sure what you mean by “the long haul.” Hyoe or no hype, he is the best player (by far, imo) on the top team in the eastern conference, and has been an absolute monster so far in the playoffs.

  28. Mike Kurylo Post author

    David Crockett: Guard — DWTDD to start, but MDA may need to gamble on Roger Mason as the primary backup and move AC to change of pace third guard. I have little faith in Mason, but this is why he’s on the team in theory. I think he’s a reasonable matchup against Delonte West as well.

    Mason is a big gamble defensively. Mason is overmatched by the least offensive guards in the league, and he’d get torched by Rondo if he has to defend him in any manner. He can’t be on the court when Rajon is out there.

    As for West, interesting match-up. I pretty much have the theory that if Mason is doing anything other than shooting three pointers, he’s hurting the team. I wouldn’t be too surprised to see him, but for no more than 5 minutes.

  29. AHouston20

    Z-man: After 2 games in the playoffs:

    Rose: PER 35.4 TS% .596ORtg 130DRtg 103 WS48.423
    James: PER 30.3TS% .574 ORtg 132DRtg 92 WS48.397

    I know it’s a regular season award and 2 playoff wins does not mean everything, but at what point will the “Derrick Rose doesn’t belong in the same conversation with LeBron, etc.” talk stop?

    I think when he does anything over more than a two game span that approaches Lebron’s best seasons. Lebron has had two seasons with a PER over 31, Rose’s best was 23.62 this year, and Lebron still had him beat by 4, even with having a lower usage rate (a significant factor in PER). In fact besides Lebron’s rookie season he has had a higher PER in every one of his seasons than Rose’s this year. Also Rose is nowhere close to Lebron defensively. Not taking anything away from Rose who is amazing offensive player, but Lebron is clearly in a completely different class. I would also point out that Lebron has been going against AI this postseason one of the best defenders at Small Forward, while Rose has been going against the likes of Darren Collinson and AJ Price

  30. John Kenney

    From Simmons: “Am I the only Celtics fan who’s much more frightened of Toney Douglas than a hobbled Billups? Douglas = total Irrational Confidence Guy.”

    Let’s hope he’s right.

  31. Mike Kurylo Post author

    @24/@32 Rose is the best offensive player one of the league’s best teams. But the Bulls are only 11th in the league on offense, so the team doesn’t derive their strength from him. He’s not going to be the worst MVP ever (thank you Iverson), but I don’t think he brings as much value as let’s say Dwight Howard does.

    BTW I think it’s absurd that the league has an award for best defensive player, but not best offensive player. Perhaps it’s because most writers can’t distinguish between overall value and offensive value? (Which the Rose MVP will further confirm).

  32. The Honorable Cock Jowles

    Caleb:
    I don’t know that there’s a better coach in the league. And his teams are fun.

    Phil? Pop?

  33. The Honorable Cock Jowles

    Jim Cavan:
    Speaking of ref hose-jobs, check this out: http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba/news/story?id=6388692

    Apparently the Mavs are 2-16 in playoff games refereed by Danny Crawford. That’s incredible.

    And the NBA is so image conscious that they’d rather employ the rhetoric of silence than admit possible wrong-doing by assigning one of the dozens of other people under their employ who would do a better, fairer job. Not surprised by those numbers, though.

  34. BigBlueAL

    The Knicks tonight need a referee crew featuring both Hue Hollins and Dick “Knick” Bevetta as Tim Hardaway liked to call him.

  35. flossy

    John Kenney:
    From Simmons: “Am I the only Celtics fan who’s much more frightened of Toney Douglas than a hobbled Billups? Douglas = total Irrational Confidence Guy.”

    Let’s hope he’s right.

    Toney Douglas is ice cold, in a the best possible way. He hit [what should have been] the game-winning three like it was nothing. For someone playing his first playoff game ever against the defending East champs, that speaks volumes.

  36. Z-man

    Not saying that Rose is as good as LeBron (who might be the most talented player ever, or close to it) or Howard, only that to include him in the discussion of the most valuable player for this year is not ludicrous. If he laid 2 eggs thus far, the naysayers would be downing him right now, so it would be nice if those same doubters gave him some props.

  37. Caleb

    The Honorable Cock Jowles: Phil? Pop?

    I would put Adelman right up there – he hasn’t had as much talent, but took two different teams to the brink of a championship. And I would say has squeezed more than anyone could have hoped, from a Houston team in constant flux.

  38. Frank

    Caleb: I would put Adelman right up there – he hasn’t had as much talent, but took two different teams to the brink of a championship. And I would say has squeezed more than anyone could have hoped, from a Houston team in cosntant flux.

    I agree mostly. Pop is a tough coach to measure because he’s essentially always had Tim Duncan and at least 1 other HOF-level player on his team — David Robinson, and some combination of Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili. Same with Phil – something definitely to be said about winning with the best talent rather than losing.

    Adelman’s teams are always so fun to watch. I actually think he’d be a great coach for this team. Hell, we already have Bobby Jackson (Toney Douglas) and young Mike Bibby (Chauncey Billups).

    I think he could do amazing things on offense with a lineup of Billups, Fields, Melo, Amare, and Turiaf.

    Aint’ going to happen – I think that MDA is here for at least another year (justifiably). But he’d be a great coach for this team.

  39. BigBlueAL

    Frank: I agree mostly. Pop is a tough coach to measure because he’s essentially always had Tim Duncan and at least 1 other HOF-level player on his team — David Robinson, and some combination of Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili.Same with Phil – something definitely to be said about winning with the best talent rather than losing.

    Adelman’s teams are always so fun to watch.I actually think he’d be a great coach for this team.Hell, we already have Bobby Jackson (Toney Douglas) and young Mike Bibby (Chauncey Billups).

    I think he could do amazing things on offense with a lineup of Billups, Fields, Melo, Amare, and Turiaf.

    Aint’ going to happen – I think that MDA is here for at least another year (justifiably).But he’d be a great coach for this team.

    What the hell is the difference between D’Antoni and Adelman?? Both coach great offenses and below average defenses. Since his Portland days Adelman has reached the Conference Finals once while D’Antoni reached the Conference Finals twice. They each have a couple of 60 win seasons.

    If you are going to replace D’Antoni I would think it would be with someone who has a different coaching philosophy.

  40. Frank

    BigBlueAL: What the hell is the difference between D’Antoni and Adelman??Both coach great offenses and below average defenses.Since his Portland days Adelman has reached the Conference Finals once while D’Antoni reached the Conference Finals twice.They each have a couple of 60 win seasons.

    If you are going to replace D’Antoni I would think it would be with someone who has a different coaching philosophy.

    Not sure I agree with that – if you look back at the Kings’ heyday, they were great on both offense and defense.

    Adelman’s first full season in Sac was 1999-2000 – they were 11th in offense and 10th in defense. Then for the next 3 seasons they were top 10 in both offense and defensive efficiency.

    In Houston his teams were top 5 in defensive efficiency in 07-08 and 08-09. It wasn’t until last year, when Yao and McGrady were injured and he was coaching with smoke and mirrors, that the defense suffered. (It should be noted that he did inherit the team from JVG – the Rockets were never worse than 6th in defense under JVG)

    D’Antoni may be a better offensive coach actually – but his 2004-2008 Suns were never better than 13th, and were 16-17th for the most part. His Knicks have never been better than 23rd.

    Look – I’m not a D’Antoni hater – I’d like to see him coach this team without 80% roster turnover every few months. I’m just giving credit where it’s due to Adelman.

  41. Frank

    That said, I’d love to see the NYK hire a defensive coordinator for D’Antoni. Will never happen while Dan D’Antoni is the incumbent and MDA is the coach though.

  42. tenebrous

    The knicks have one advantage they are also eating those peanut butter and jelly sandwiches

  43. Spree8nyk8

    Stat needs to take a few mph’s off those passes, he just seems to whip them as hard as he can.

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