I agree with Jersey J.

“Yup, that?s the classic definition of a troll. Someone that just argues for the sake of arguing. They tend to get banned in online discussion areas. ”

I also don’t know how you can call him a troll when all he is stating his opinion on people calling Lee the best knick.

Maybe your the Troll because he didn’t say anything wrong.

He called a person racist after the guy said that he’s partial to Lee because of his skin color and Jersey J is wrong for this!!!!

Mike – IF you are going to conduct a blog please be open to opinions. Sometimes people want agree with you. Its called a discusion!!!

Yup, that’s the classic definition of a troll. Someone that just argues for the sake of arguing. They tend to get banned in online discussion areas.

“If the Knicks players suck, then why does everyone hate Isiah?s coaching? He did more than Larry did.”

Talking about setting the bar low. Isiah is a better coach than Brown was here, and a better GM than Layden.

“I?ll admit that his FA signings suck and his trades questionable, but the future is brighter than it was under any Knick GM in the last 20 years.”

Oh wow this is funny. In the last 20 years we were the chief rival to one of the best dynasties of all time. We went to 2 Finals. We had a franchise center, a perennial All Star. In the last 20 years, we had one of the best defensive teams of all time.

I just don’t see anything like that in the Knicks future.

I would say that Lee, Curry and Crawford get by far the most attention on the boards bc the public perception is so far removed from the reality of their performance, as most people here see it. I mean, at the All-Star break last year Greg Anthony called Crawford the MVP of the Atlantic Division.

We don’t talk as much about Q or even Marbury bc hey – there’s not so much to argue about.

FG% 3P% FT% eFG% TS%
.479 .342 .830 .510 .546 Marion
.401 .342 .830 .465 .509 Crawford

They hit the same % of 3s and fts, but overall I don’t see how you can compare them.

Here’s Crawford under LB though

.416 .345 .826 .474 .544

He’s never going to be Reggie Miller, but if he played within a well structured offense I think he’d be respectable.

Did you see his ex-wife? Man is she hot

Not smart at all Kidd :)

Jamal is just and off balance jump shooter. If you watched him play throughout his career you know this already.

Some people feel comfortable shooting the ball off balance. Look at Shawn Marion

Kidd and Nash are the two best PGs in the NBA. Watching the way they run an offense, I think it’s safe to say that they know a thing or two about basketball.

Iverson certainly plays a different style than those two. In fact, he had the most success playing a different position. The years where Iverson had the most individual and team success were years where he played off the ball and the entire team consisted of savvy/intelligent players whose primary jobs it was to defend and get Iverson the ball. He hasn’t done as well as a PG. I don’t know if it’s basketball IQ, stubborness, or his skill set not being suited to the position.

Marbury’s entire career seems to fit into the A.I. as a PG category. This is why I think you have to put a “point-forward” or “point-SG” next to him. It seems to me that his skill set and/or basketball IQ and/or attitude is such that he’s only an average player when trying to fit into the “pass-first PG” role. The role he was playing when everyone was healthy seemed to take away his strengths and expose his weaknesses.

“Ummmm? how is basketball I.Q. measured? Do the players take a test? How does it measure up against regular I.Q. or baseball I.Q. or football I.Q.? Does hockey have their own I.Q. also? Just wondering. I thought you were either intelligent or not, you can conceive a thought or you can?t, you have perception or you don?t.”

It is kind of an arbitrary term, and just from watching the game I think it’s pretty hard to differentiate whether a guy doesn’t know the game, lacks certain skills, has a bad attitude (which might result in him not learning the game), or is poorly coached.

I gave the example of Jamal Crawford earlier, saying that maybe he knows the game as well as anyone and just chooses to shoot impossible shots and freelance because he thinks he’s the greatest player ever.

So I guess basketball IQ is sort of an applied IQ. You have to know the game, and that knowledge must come through in your play.

I would say that baseball definitely has its own IQ. I don’t know if you follow the sport, but you have smart pitchers who last 15-20 years in the big league throwing 85-90 mph and then there are guys who throw 100 mph with a nasty curve but get rocked. There are hitters who are very successful despite underwhelming physical abilities and hitters who can hit the ball a mile but rarely get to because they’ll swing at anything. By positioning yourself well defensively you can make an easy play on a ball that a poorly positioned player couldn’t have gotten even if he had the ability of Ozzie Smith or Torii Hunter.

I don’t really know how basketball IQ is correlated with overall intelligence. However, I don’t think most concepts in basketball are really quantum physics, and with enough practice and dedication you should be able to grasp them. Then you have to be able to apply them. Maybe Malik Rose knows exactly how to pass out of a double team or Nate Robinson knows some sick moves in the low post, but it doesn’t really matter.

You want to talk about basketball IQ? If his brains weren’t in his biceps he’d be 6’4″.