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Thursday, October 23, 2014

ESPN: What’s Wrong With The Knicks?

Not penned by any of us, but from ESPN’s Stats & Info Team three things that are wrong with the team.

Overreliance on Isolation
This season, 15.8 percent of the Knicks offensive plays have come in isolation, the highest percentage in the NBA.

But the results haven’t been there, as, in isolation, the Knicks average 0.67 points per play, 25th best in the NBA, and shoot 30.3 percent, 29th in the NBA.

Two of the main culprits have been the Knicks superstars, Anthony and Stoudemire. 101 players in the NBA have run at least 20 plays in isolation this season, and of those, Anthony ranks 79th in points per play (0.65) and Stoudemire 84th (0.62).

18 comments on “ESPN: What’s Wrong With The Knicks?

  1. Nick C.

    I wish you didn’t just paste that about the ISOs though it is pretty damning about the style of play. I anxiously await the their ISOs are tougher becuase the rest of the team sucks so bad they don’t need to be guarded.

    Anyway the article has a section saying trading Gallo for Melo was a mistake. Which much to my surprise yesterday Stephen A. Smith on with Michael Kay when asked if they would be better with Deron or Melo said Deron and that you need a guard and center. That being said why was he “do whatever it takes” Sorry I know its naive to expect better but still its on the one hand smirkworthy to hear him essentially reverse all his points but on the other that he gets away with it.

  2. xcat01

    The article only proves what we have all been saying, the Knicks need a PG. Stat is not an ISO player, neither is Fields, Shump, TC or 95% of the league. There are only a handful of players who can consistantly run ISOs and be successful. The Knicks need ball movement, not better ISOs. Let’s see how the Knicks do tonight without Melo against the Heat. Sure they probably will get blown out but if they can score more than 85 points. Then we know where the problem is.

  3. xduckshoex

    “Take the Heat and the Knicks. Miami cleared the cap room to catch the big free-agent prize, and got him. The Knicks missed out, but instead of staying patient and developing “home-grown” talent, they made moves to scramble for the second tier-stars.”

    Time hit the nail on the head.

  4. Ben R

    Can people please stop blaming our PGs and our role players. Over the last 5 games our non “stars” have gotten it together and outplayed our big two by a wide margin. In fact if the “stars” simply played as well as our other players we would have won 4 of the last 5 by huge margins.

    Over last five games:
    Melo/Amare TS%: 44.2%
    Rest of Team TS%: 56.0%

    In four of the last five games our “stars” shot under 47% TS% with their best game being 53.8% while our non-stars shot better than 47% in four out of five, better than 54% in three out of five, and better than 60% twice.

    Our stars are getting plenty of help. Fields has figured it out with a TS% of over 60 over the last 5 while putting in better than 15 per 36 and Tyson has been looking to score a lot more. We need to trust our team and let ball movement create opportunities because open shots will eventually start to fall, forced shots will not.

  5. xcat01

    I am not blaming our “non-stars”, I am stating a fact that without the proper PG, Melo, Stat and TC can not coexist. That is fact because Melo can not and should not be the facilitator of the offense. That is not his game and if the Knicks did not know that before they traded the farm for him then shame on them. That’s like buying a Porche and expecting to haul a boat. Nothing wrong with having a Porche but it is not built to pull something huge. Same goes here, Melo is a scorer who excels in ISO. Nothing wrong with that but Stat is a scorer who excels in Pick & Roll and motion offense. So the answer? Develop a hybrid offense that allows both players to succeed. If you can’t do that then trade one.

  6. hoolahoop

    Nick C.:
    I wish you didn’t just paste that about the ISOs though it is pretty damning about the style of play. I anxiously await the their ISOs are tougher becuase the rest of the team sucks so bad they don’t need to be guarded.

    Anyway the article has a section saying trading Gallo for Melo was a mistake.Which much to my surprise yesterday Stephen A. Smith on with Michael Kay when asked if they would be better with Deron or Melo said Deron and that you need a guard and center.That being said why was he “do whatever it takes” Sorry I know its naive to expect better but still its on the one hand smirkworthy to hear him essentially reverse all his points but on the other that he gets away with it.

    He gets paid a lot of money for those contradictory hypocritical statements.

  7. matte sideburns

    That Time article has a few major errors. Firstly, it says we signed Amar’e AFTER being rejected by LeBron. Second, it still has Toney Douglas as our starting PG without any acknowledgement of Shump’s existence. Not that I totally reject the greater argument in the article, but messing up basic facts does make me question the writer’s credibility. And does any Knick fan care that Dolan still has to pay Billups?

    Also, it’s disingenuous to attempt to connect the Knicks’ struggles with Gallo’s play in Denver. The price has been paid already and while the “look what you’re missing” angle makes part of the narrative, it’s not relevant to any analysis of our team as currently constructed. If every player we gave up for Melo played worse in their new home, does that make this current Knicks team any better?

    I’ve been loitering on this site since the Isiah years and you guys have been my trusted source for Knicks news for all that time. Living on the other side of the world makes it harder to keep up, especially without being able to see many games, so I thank you. I’m also glad to finally have League Pass and see a few games for myself.

  8. hoolahoop

    There’s no question every team needs a good/great PG to compete at the elite level. However, the knicks iso problem is a more fundamental problem that needs to be corrected for a PG to come in and be effective running the team.
    If someone is dying of thirst, water won’t help them if their oxygen is cut off.
    This team was put together for star/talent power with no regard for team chemistry or how the pieces fit together.

  9. d-mar

    Mike – maybe the next thread can be titled “What’s right with the Knicks?” Then we can all experience a simultaneous case of writer’s block.

  10. Richmond County

    I’ll tell you what’s wrong with the Knicks tonight – Fields is penciled in at Small Forward and presumably will be guarding LeBron. I’m a big Landry fan and I’m glad he’s beginning to pick up his game, but if he holds LBJ to anything less than a triple-double, I’ll be amazed.

  11. bobneptune

    xduckshoex:
    “Take the Heat and the Knicks. Miami cleared the cap room to catch the big free-agent prize, and got him. The Knicks missed out, but instead of staying patient and developing “home-grown” talent, they made moves to scramble for the second tier-stars.”

    Time hit the nail on the head.

    i think he hit the nail “pretty much” on the head.

    the strategy of clearing cap room was executed as well as possible. they tried for lebron and wade and whiffed. here is wher i disagree a bit.

    there was nothing wrong with signing amar’e in the context of the team walsh assembled with a fairly priced , competent point and young improving players like gallo, chandler, etc.

    jimmy d forcing walsh away from his plan screwed everything. look how beautifully walsh had it set up. he had an above .500 young team with many options moving forward.

    he wanted to play hardball with melo and get him at his price (for nothing as a fa). say melo forced his way out to nj. so what? they could have kept gallo, chandler, mozgov, randolph, felton and thier 3 picks. could they have made a deal for d. will? maybe, maybe not.

    had they done nothing and whiffed on melo, d-will and even cp3 via trade this fall, they would have lost 14 million off the cap with curry and azu expiring.

    they could have just signed one of the fa bigs this year (chandler, m gasol or deandre jordan) and had a pretty formidable team of amar’e ,chandler/gasol/jordan, gallo, shumpert and felton with a bench of wilson chandler’s rights, a. randolph, turiaf, mosgov, fields, toney douglas, jorts and baron davis while retaining 3 #2 picks and the 2014 #1. and all the players would fit with each other.

    i’d go to war with that group for the next 5 years.

  12. KnickInSeattle

    Really? You guys are so intent on finding statistics to support what you already believe (walking intentional fallacies, all of you) that you can’t even start a game thread? When we’re playing Miami? WTF?

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