Diagnosing Patient Frye: What Ails Our Sophomore Slumper?

Healthy, Wealthy, and Young: The Birth of A New Era
Standing 6?11?, being only 23 years-old, and with a promising rookie campaign under his belt, Channing Frye seemed destined to finally fill the gaping productivity hole at the Knicks? power forward position. The Knicks haven?t employed a tall, talented four since the glory days of Charles Oakley. Having suffered through a platoon of the short (Anthony Mason, Larry Johnson), the short and useless (Othella Harrington, Clarence Weatherspoon, Malik Rose, Maurice Taylor), and the short but perennially out of shape (Mike Sweetney), Knicks fans envisioned a bright future of crisp pick-and-rolls, a smooth jumper, and a reasonable defensive presence.

The average Knick fan was in love with Frye, but those fluent in statistical analysis were downright infatuated with him. Frye produced a very healthy rookie PER (18.12) ranking him second in his class, superior to the more heralded big men drafted ahead of him?Andrew Bogut, Marvin Williams, and Charlie Villanueva. The PER was promising in general, but also healthy in its components. Frye?s skill set was broad, which is an underrated quality and a strong indicator of future growth. He created shots, hit the ones he did, kept his turnovers in check, and rebounded well. Frye averaged 20 points per 40 minutes and it?s not hard to see why: he could shoot with range, was developing a low-post game, and hit his free throws. He?s a young big man who could score, and those don?t grow on trees. In all, the only blight on his record was a dismal Curry-esque assist ratio.

It wasn?t youth and inexperience that stood in Frye?s way. His major obstacles were his coach and his health. In his relentless effort to sabotage the Knicks? season, ?Coach? Larry Brown decided to bury Frye behind the inferior, older, shorter, and ultimately unemployment-bound Maurice Taylor. When Frye was finally able to wrestle himself some playing time, he sprained his knee and missed the last month of the season. In the off-season Larry Brown was replaced with the man who drafted Frye, while the months off provided time to heal. Knicks fans indulged high, and arguably, merited hopes that Frye would continue to improve and squeeze the Knicks into the playoffs of a historically weak conference.

We have thus far been grossly disappointed. To label Frye a disaster two-thirds through his sophomore campaign is painfully appropriate. Far from being a fringe All-Star candidate, Frye is posting a paltry 11.74 PER, and having trouble justifying a rotation slot, much less a starting job. Frye’s drop of -6.38 PER is downright ridiculous. We had no reason to believe Frye?s production would plummet, since none of Frye?s metrics were outliers to suggest a regression to the mean.

Paging Dr. Stats
There?s nothing about Frye’s rookie statistics that suggest ?luck? instead of ?skill.? Frye does nearly everything well (except pass), instead of one or two things spectacularly. In other words, he?s more Elton Brand than Kyle Korver. But Frye?s game is ailing badly. What?s the diagnosis?

Examining Frye?s performance record, reveals that for the most part Frye 2.0 is the same player as Frye 1.0. His turnover rate this season is not only healthy, but slightly improved. His usage rate is down slightly, but nothing alarming. His assist ratio is as small as ever, no change there (and unfortunately no improvement). We run into the first problem with a decreased rebound rate. A downtick that?s bad but not dramatic. However Frye?s main malady is his outright implosion in True Shooting Percentage. Frye went from a better than league average 54.1% to an atrociously bad 47.1%. That?s not a decline, that?s a crash.

There are three components that factor into TS%: 3-pt FGs, 2-pt FGs, and Free Throws. Frye doesn’t take threes, and his free throw percentage is even better this year, so it’s easy to say that his drop in FG% from .477 to .438 is the culprit. At first glance, Frye seems to be losing his shooting touch.

But let’s hold on there, because what FT% doesn’t show is his rate of attempts. Last year Frye shot 5.8 free throws per 40 minutes. This year he’s down to 2.3, which is down a staggering 60%! Frye went from taking a free throw for every two field goals, to shooting one for every four. Essentially, Frye has eliminated free throws from his offensive repertoire. Frye can shoot the rock, but relying on a mid-range jumper for the majority of your shots is career suicide. Take the master of the mid-range, Richard Hamilton. What keeps his offensive numbers up are his prodigious rate of free throw attempts, not just the accuracy of his shot. Ironically, the same plight of all ?J? no drive, is what made Frye?s predecessor, Mo Taylor, such an inefficient offensive player. After calling for Frye to replace Taylor, like a nightmare we?ve just watched the former turn into the latter.

What?s funny is the attacking the basket inclination that has escaped Frye has downright possessed his best friend, David Lee. Lee leads the league in field goal percentage despite lacking any talent as a shooter. Dunks and lay ups are the highest percentage shot, an obvious fact that Lee embraces but Frye seems to have forgotten.

The case of the disappearing free throws extends to a bout of, “Where are the rebounds?” Frye’s rebounding numbers were unimpressive in college. Red flags were raised on draft day, but the Knicks insisted he’d be fine, and his first year in the NBA he was. His rookie rate of 14.2 was reasonable, putting him in line with the second-tiered rebounders at his position, like Andrew Bogut, Rasheed Wallace, and Chris Wilcox. It was nothing to write home about, but Frye was still an above-average performer. This year, his rate has declined to 12.3%, placing him in the unenviable company of Mark Blount and Mikki Moore, the former being infamous for his pathetic work ethic and the latter for his slight frame.

What went wrong? A rebound percentage is made of two components: Offensive and Defensive Rates. In fact, Frye’s defensive rebounding has improved this year, going from 5.9 defensive rebounds per 40 minutes to 6.2. On the other hand, his offensive rebounding is down by a third, from 3.5 per 40 minutes to 2.2. As his friend the Freshman-Sophomore Game MVP demonstrates, offensive rebounds are a function of activity around the basket. They don’t come to you, you go to them.

Looking closely at his numbers?both advanced and traditional?reveal the problem: Frye is not attacking the basket. It?s not that he can?t, it?s that he won?t.

Take Two of These and Call Me In the Morning
In a sense, Frye?s problems are good problems to have. He demonstrated in his rookie season a capacity to grab offensive rebounds and draw fouls, but for some reason he?s gone away from these aspects of his game. Frye is too young to suggest his talent has abandoned him. Rather it seems, he?s switched his strategy. This is a problem of habit not skill, and should be, if any basketball problems can be, correctable. If Frye is sick, he doesn?t need a doctor, he needs a psychologist.

It would seem to reason that if Frye rededicates himself to attacking the basket, his Free Throw rates, field goal percentage, and offensive rebounds will improve. Frye has the talent to drive to the basket, the question is will he embrace that style, reverse his collapse, and once again establish himself as one of the league’s best young forwards.

Michael Zannettis regularly posts on his website www.michaelzannettis.com He addresses topics as diverse as the culture of evolution, possession law, and communication theory. He lives in Astoria and has a fond childhood memory of when the NBA Finals were interrupted by a White Ford Bronco in a low-speed car chase.

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61 thoughts to “Diagnosing Patient Frye: What Ails Our Sophomore Slumper?”

  1. Frye needs the same special attention Curry has received because he can be just as special. He flourished when he was the focal point and has regressed as the attention has shifted to Eddy. Knicks brass cant be shortsighted and put all their eggs in one Curry basket. Lee is great but like Isiah I like him where he is. Frye could be a huge problem for defenses with his arsenal polished. What this kid needs is some TLC and personal attention. He needs the Knicks to express their need for him to be better for his confidence to improve. He plays to the level others perceive of him.

  2. “Knicks fans envisioned a bright future of crisp pick-and-rolls, a smooth jumper, and a reasonable defensive presence.”

    In other words, they had Kurt Thomas flashbacks?

  3. the bottom line is there isn’t a huge role for him on this team as presently constructed, and his role and playing time have been jerked around quite a bit, so he’s been trying to fit in. he’s probably never going to be a big rebounder or defensive presence, and both Curry and Lee need big minutes. he’ll probably be traded in the offseason if the right veteran SF, SG or PG becomes available (sign and trade for Gerald Wallace?).

    he could develop into a good player in a different situation, but I don’t think he could ever be an All-Star, and I think there’s a chance that either or both of Curry and Lee can.

  4. Sorry to say but Kurt Thomas was good for us for a few years, and was only two inches shorter, and he did defend the physical players adequately. Frye needs to improve his defense, his offense is fine when he’s given the ball. you can’t teach height, but you can teach defense and boxing out

  5. Frye’s future as a Knick (if there is one) is as a high-post power forward, which doesn’t seem to fit into the offense Isaiah has designed, or Frye doesn’t seem able to run it. He gets the ball at the elbow and drifts to the wing, for some reason: probably because that’s how he’s being defended. Add that to the fact that he’s a miserable passer, and it’s no wonder to see why he’s struggled. He needs to do two things this summer, if he’s still a Knick:

    1. Learn to throw the ball into the low post from the elbow, be it the lob or bounce passes.

    2. Develop a jab series. If he can develop a jab series that will allow him to face up at the top of the key, that will cause defenders to sag enough to enable the lob or give him a first step to the basket. Once he gets one or two steps to the basket, he’ll have 3 options: shoot, pass, draw contact. In short, a good jab series will allow him to increase his aggressiveness whether or not he actually takes the ball all the way to the rim.


  6. “Nice article.”

    not really, sorry. much like the Spurs piece this dude wrote here in January, it ignores a lot of obvious facts in favor of an all-stat approach. Lee and Curry are better and have developed ahead of Frye, where does it mention that? that’s the bottom line. it’s pretty hard to “rededicate yourself to attacking the basket” when Curry is sitting in there every time downcourt, and you only ever get the ball on the perimeter. Matt’s post above is more insightful in about 20 percent of the space.

    on a related note, still think the Spurs are the Tiger Woods of the league right now, six weeks later? that’s what I thought.

  7. Excellent article. I have to agree that Frye is the odd man out in this rotation. Curry has developed and Lee has been brilliant. For those of you old enough to remember, there were 2 similar scenarios back in the early championship teams of the 70’s. First, the Knicks had Bill Bradley and Cazzie Russell, 2 of the best young players in the country out of college, playing the same position. Bradley was also playing a lot of 2 guard, but couldn’t guard anyone. Then they had Walt Bellamy and Willis Reed Playing together in the paint, basically getting in each others way. So they traded Bellamy, got DeBusschere, moved Dollar Bill to small forward and the rest is History. Always take Chemistry over Talent. As incredible as it seems to say this about the Knicks, sometimes you just have too much talent. Frye has no room to operate underneath with Curry and/or Lee and even Q Rich under the basket, and they don’t run any post plays for him. I would bet the farm Frye will wear another uniform next season, because the league knows what he can do. The Knicks could end up with the prototype small forward they desparately need, or use Frye as part of a Package deal for a lottery pick. I would hope the former. I like Channing Frye, his professionalism, seemingly his character; he seems like a true team player. It looks like he worked extra hard to prove his critics wrong last year, and to Isiah’s credit, he wasn’t jerked around leading into this season. He knew he was going to start, and maybe this took away some of his edge. I agree with the writer when he says you just don’t lose your game. Its the hunger, the intangibles. The Knicks better hit a home run if they do trade Frye because it will haunt them for years if they screw it up.

  8. ugh.

    STEVE, you’re definitely right. It makes me sad to see, cause Frye is a great guy and definitely has the potential to be a great player. But if we’re committed to Curry and Lee, he simply doesn’t have a place in the franchise. I’ll be sad to see him go, but it’s almost a lock to happen. I just hope to God Isiah doesn’t get hosed when it does.

  9. I’m not sure he should go because he and Lee have opposite, even completmenting styles. Lee plays much better when Curry is on the floor than Frye, but Frye can sub in for Curry. In this league with undersized centers starting for most teams Frye can more than compensate in size. That being said he is much too talented to be a back-up, and if we were to actually get a Dave Debusschere prototype SF in return I would be more than happy. A more defensive Lamar Odom? Unfourtunatly thats what we thought we had with Jared Jefferies whom I haven’t quite given up on.

    Also, great article. This article actually proves Frye is the same player he was last year, just that he’s not driving. I guess the only point i can make is the one jon abbey was trying to make (I think); one of the reasons Frye doesn’t drive is because Lee and Curry are clogging up the middle. In another uniform I can see Frye being an all-star, a poor man’s Tim Duncan.

  10. Great stuff Mike. I like that you presented the facts and allow for others to hypothesize why this is occuring.

    Personally I don’t buy the “Curry is clogging the lane” theory. If that were true, then why is David Lee flourishing around the hoop? I’ll stick with my original idea, that Frye’s problems are mental. The Knicks offense may be contributing to this, but ultimately you can tell that Frye is lacking confidence on the court. He reminds me of Curry last year.

    Watching the 1st Q of tonight’s game vs. the Nets this seems obvious. Frye looks absolutely lost on the defensive end. I’ve counted at least 3 plays where he’s made mistakes which led to open New Jersey shots. Frye’s playing so passively, that Quentin Richardson just grabbed a rebound that Frye should have had. Channing’s got nearly half a foot on Q. What gives?

  11. you just had a perfect example of “what ails our sophomore slumper” at the end of the first quarter. WIDE OPEN off the inbounds from three point range, the pass goes to an admittedly red-hot Steph, who misses a contested jumper. Frye’s game is primarily offensive, and he’s pretty much our sixth option at this point, so of course he has trouble getting into rhythm. Shawn Livingston is having trouble in LA for similar reasons.

  12. I love how ESPN.com has now changed the designation for Jerome James to FC now instead of C lol. All because of Kim Jong Ill’s ridiculous 5 minute experiment for Jerome James to start at PF hahaha. So Silly. We have the only 7’3 350 lb PF in the history of the NBA.

  13. Nice article.
    Pleasure to read and had a nice flow. Quite unlike the Spur article which to me proves nothing, because the Spurs will not challenge for anything this year.

    Channing is a nice compliment to Eddie Curry. If Rasheed Wallace can make it this league Channing Frye can. A dominant Eddie Curry will open the floor for Channing. Too bad we cant see a Frye/Curry/Lee frontcourt.

    Is it possible the injury has made Channing shy away from contact in the paint?

  14. I don’t know how much longer I can take these frustrating losses due to lack of defense…after playing soooooo well in the 1st half…how can we blow it like that? an 18 point discrepency in the 3rd Q CANNOT happen!!! Isiah must get a better rotation and preach some defense for god’s sake.

  15. even Bruce Bowen and the Spurs can’t stop Vince Carter when he’s on like that. it’s not always us blowing it, without Lee, we’re not as good as the Nets. Kidd just dominates Marbury, even with broken ribs and with Steph doing well in the first half tonight. what’s Kidd’s career record against NY since going to NJ? someone said 22-2 now, that’s just absurd if it’s true.

    and I wouldn’t blame it all on D, we were getting stops near the end, but idiotic decisions by our guards, as always, led to turnovers. lowest ratio of basketball IQ to talent for a pair of starting guards ever? they’ve got to be up there.

  16. man I’ve been saying all these things since the 1st week when Frye was in that miserable slump. Frye needs to be more aggressive, but also Isiah needs to play him at center or redesign the offense to put him around the basket more. It looks like Frye has been banned from the paint in order for his jumper to spread the floor for Curry. Isiah even said it in a pre game interview that “we’ve turned him into a jump-shooter, and he’s much more” (or something like that.)Part of it is also Curry playing much better this year, plus Lee is doing his thing. Again he seems to not have a place in the offense. But Frye is still underachieving and has to look to take it to the hole. We all know from last year he’s got some sweet post moves and can hit his free throws. But the basket won’t come to Frye, Frye must go to basket!

  17. Our guard play is maddening.

    On one hand I really hope Lee is back tomorrow, on the other hand I really think it would be stupid to rush him back.

  18. how about Steph bringing the ball up, all by himself, and getting so fancy as he crosses halfcourt that he kicks the ball right to Kidd? I mean, just inexcusable.

  19. I think Frye’s slump is due to his position in the offense, and unlike the author, I’m not sure it’s his decision. Seems that Thomas is running the offense with Frye in the high post and the perimeter. It’s a lot harder to get rebounds or attack the basket when you start 20 feet away and aren’t know for your one on one skills.

    I agree with the poster who said that Frye should stay at backup C. There’s no reason he can’t improve over the summer on his post game (which actually has improved). At his size and skill level I don’t think you get rid of him unless you get a bigtime player back.

  20. Given the b2b stats the Knicks have posted this season, does that mean they are doomed for failure tonight? Or will they be the enigmatic ones that frustrate us all season?

  21. Frye’s game looks no different. A diet of 15-18 footers with the occasional post move. The injury last year may have set him back b/c he was strating to develop a post-game as defenses stopped leaving him open. Also, he was just awful in the beginning of this year before he and the team was spared by an injury. His numbers since he came back may match up much better to last year.

  22. ^^ For some reason I think the Knicks will come out and win just like their enigmatic selves. It’s just what I’ve come to expect.

    And yeah there are a lot of different factors involved in Frye’s slump. But I think the biggest thing is he isn’t shooting it as well. That allows defenses to guard him differently. Once he starts knocking down more shots I think he’ll start getting back to the free throw line more.

  23. Another talent in danger of going to waste if not given the proper remedies especially changing the mindset after the injury.

  24. I’m not one to go out of my way to answer personal attacks, but when someone poses a question to me, then answers it on their own, it kind of ruffles my feathers.

    Jon Abbey: “Still think the Spurs are the Tiger Woods of the league right now, six weeks later?”

    Actually, to answer your question, YES I do. And I think this way for the SAME reasons I discussed in my original article.

    Not only does San Antonio continue to have the best point differential in the league, but as Mr. Hollinger of ESPN pointed out this morning, they’re doing this while playing their starters less than any other team.

    In other words, a Spurs team at 80% is better than any other team in the league right now.

    And as was mentioned in the original article, they’re doing this because of outstanding play on BOTH sides of the ball.

    The Spurs are embarrassing people and they’re not even trying that hard. So yeah, Tiger Woods is exactly the first person that comes to mind.

  25. “In other words, a Spurs team at 80% is better than any other team in the league right now.”

    hahaha, keep me posted on that. citing John Hollinger is pretty funny too, he’s just as clueless as you, for extremely similar reasons.

    look, Dallas won game 7 in San Antonio last year, has beaten them both times in San Antonio this year, plus SA has to go through Phoenix first this season, making Dallas’ road much easier than it was last season.

    more specifically, as in this above article, you miss the forest for the trees, many words and numbers adding up to very little insight. here’s some help for you: Dallas lost their first four games this season by a combined 58 points, partly because they let their stars start training camp later to try to keep them more fresh for the ridiculously long haul of the season. their point differential in the 51 games since then is +9.4, since that’s so important to you. plus, they’re 46-5 in those games, plus they should be defending NBA champions, if it wasn’t for some extremely dubious refereeing. maybe after they win this year, you’ll give them some more respect.

    hahaha, citing John Hollinger, it’s like citing Donald Rumsfeld on world events…

  26. Ofcourse they are going to beat the Heat tonight. Then they will even beat the Celtics on wednesday, we will get all excited, and then they will crap the bed once again against Golden State.
    Im gonna be at the Celtics game at the TD Bank North Center on wednesday, I can’t begin to tell you guys how deceively fun it is to show up at that place with my banged up old school Patrick Ewing jersey, I get mercilessly ostrasized the entire game everytime I go, but it’s actually kinda fun.

  27. FWIW, none of my comments should be interpreted as personal attacks, I have no idea who you actually are. I’m attacking those two articles, both of which I think are very poor excuses for analysis.

  28. Senor Abbey, why must you choose Donald Rumsfield for a world events bozo. Why not Nancy Pelosi, who recently appointed a representative as the United States Chairman of the House Inteligence Committe who was unable to distinguish Shiite’s from Sunni’s in a quiz by the media.

  29. ok, now I spent five minutes on your site, and I know “who you are” a bit better. your current post there is also misguided:

    “Dwight Howard currently shoots 10.7 shots a game. Many basketball pundits wonder why, if he shoots an eye-boggling 59.2% from the field, doesn’t he take more shots per game? The problem, they say, is that his teammates don’t give him the ball enough.”

    no, the problem is that he doesn’t have much of a post game yet, and the majority of his points come on rebounds and follows, or alley-oops because he’s so damn quick around the basket. do you watch games, or just read and attempt to analyze numbers?

  30. T-Mart, I’m not getting into politics here, hoops is controversial enough. consider the Rumsfeld remark retracted, go Knicks! :)

  31. Malik Rose is this years Maurice Taylor. Can he please sprain his ACL celebrating a field goal, or fall off the chair-lift snowboarding, or hairline fracture his tailbone falling in a hot tub or something, please, pretty please with sugar on top.

  32. Or better yet, Jerome James, Malik Rose and Jared Jefferies could get into a freak gasoline fight accident. If there is anything that this season can teach us, it’s that annoying Isiah Thomas teacher’s pet role players are not a precious, precious commodity. Just because they do not have chiseled abs, stunning lack of basketball IQ, does not mean they too cant not fall tragedy to a freak gasoline fight accident.

  33. yeah, nice win, if we could ever get any kind of consistency from Steph and Jamal, we’d be tough. not just 28 points from the two combined in the fourth, but NO TURNOVERS.

    how about that points in the paint stat on Curry? leading the league with 792, Duncan second with 712, that’s amazing.

    got to beat Boston now, though, this alternating win/loss thing is maddening.

  34. We’re definitely going to beat Boston on wednesday, I’m gonna be at the game, CMON! If any of you see the only person in attendance in a patrick ewing jersey being escorted out of the arena, please contact bailbonds for me.

  35. “New York, which lost at New Jersey on Sunday, has alternated wins and losses the past nine games.”

    Remember just a few weeks ago people were calling the Knicks the most UNpredictable team in the league?

    I’d love to see them prove this pattern wrong with at the very least a win in Boston and hopefully a five or six game streak at some point.

  36. good win tonight, but does anyone who’s been watching the knicks this season really think we aren’t gonna stink up the joint against boston?

    i’d love nothing more than to see us break out of this shit, but i feel like a lover who’s been jerked around one too many times. I CAN’T TAKE THIS ANYMORE! i’m not gettin any hopes up unless we beat Boston, Golden State, and Atlanta in a fuckin row…(and we’d still be 1 1/2 under .500).

  37. I’m sorry jon abbey that you get targeted for some reason. That’s just bizarre.

    About Frye, he’s solid. I guess he’s one of those he-is-what-he-is type players: he has his weaknesses and his strengths and in the end he’s a contributer but just not a presence out there. But unfortunately for him, he plays one of the most important positions at setting a perception and mindset for a team and he doesn’t bring the most desired one.

    As far as player comparisons go, I think he and LaMarcus Aldridge are strikingly similar. They’re both long and lanky but not real physical big men and the best part of their games is their outside shot. If anyone catches Aldridge during a good game, he’s basically what Frye would look like if Frye was a better rebounder.

  38. I thought about why Frye’s PER went down and I think the main factor that was left out was that he went from the bench to a starting job…maybe Isaiah has something there with Lee coming off the bench.

    Per minute last year, Frye used to face bench players, now he faces starting power forwards. He’s been asked to fill a different role.

  39. Frye needs to get angry and mean!
    I think his physical attribute and skill is there. Only other gripe I have about him is that he rushes to take a shot, but does not always look like he was expecting to take that shot, often times not taking a good look and rushing it.

    BTW, Knicks going on a 6 game win streak would be awesome. They do have a 6 game home winning streak. For a team that had problems winning at home, that’s a start IMO.

  40. and to top it all off Crawford is now out for the entire year.

    With Francis also ailing, Marbury ailing, Crawford out for the entire year, we are looking at having a lot of Nate

  41. It’s going to be hard for the Knicks to make up for Crawford’s scoring. Richardson definitely has to step it up, he’ll probably be starting exclusively at the 2 with Jefferies playing SF. Mardy Collins figures to get some burn now, as he and Nate are the only players who can spell Marbury and Q off the bench.

    This might get ugly.

  42. Oh God, just when things were starting to look a little rosier. Now that there’s a hole in the lineup, though, maybe we can start to see how a couple other lineups will do. Frye and Nate are definitely going to have to step up.

  43. You guys are counting on Nate to step up? That’s the funniest thing I read all day…

    This is now officially an exercise in player development. Here’s hoping Mardy sees some PT so we can decide whether or not to cut him loose next year.

  44. Collins looked good that game against Golden State at least…he’s a complete question mark, no idea if he’s a real NBA player or not. I think Balkman might get some minutes from Crawford’s absence, which I would definitely approve of.

  45. Hey Zannettis, just because Jon Abbey criticized your post doesn’t mean you have to go all 7th grade on us. Enough with the bullshit posts.

  46. I think it’s good that Crawford is out of the lineup (although it’s too bad he’s hurt, I don’t wish injury on anybody) but frankly, I think he’s the epitome of why the Knicks are so inconsistent; last I checked he was the second worst shooter in the league who plays a lot of minutes (barely 40%) and he kills the team more than he helps them-if he’s even remotely helpful how come EVERY single NBA season he’s played his team has been absolutly atrocious (i think this years Knicks is the best team he’s been on, and they’re 26-32 -lol)……

    If Balkman plays more minutes, it will give the team more grit and better defense, and allow more shots for the more reliable players-I even trust Marbury more than Crawford (sure, Crawford has his a lot of last second shots, but he takes basically EVERY last second shot that’s needed; you’re going to inevetably hit a couple – and by the way, when he doesn’t take the shot, someone like Frye does, and they suceed just as well as Crawford does….)

    Again, any player who playsa ton of minutes like Crawford does and does nothing “well” but scores and makes only %40 of the shots he takes (and he takes a lot of shots) is an absolute detriment who will never help a team—hate to say it, and feel bad the dude needs surgery, but if the Thomas keeps the team’s confidence up, Crawford’s absense in the best thing that could of happened to them and will give them a shot at consistency if the other players stay healthy…..

  47. The only silly thing about the article is that Frye is a very weak rebounder – was in college, was last year, is now. I mean, for a 6’11 power forward.

    What I don’t understand is how he could become as bad as he is at getting to the free throw line. No 3-pointers, no free throws, shooting 43 percent, pile of turnovers… he’s been awful. And that’s his offense.

    I agree, he’s got the skills to make a comeback, but David Lee has obviously nailed down the 4-spot. The third guy in the “big” rotation needs to be someone whose main contribution is defense.

  48. Watching Eddy Curry is painful. He jumps like a flightless bird, and is a big liability on defense. All opposing players take it straight to the hoop when they see him in the paint. He is maybe top 3 in the league at getting his shot blocked and is maybe 3rd in rebounds on his own team. Hopefully, Curry is a trade piece for an impact small forward; and Frye and Lee man the 4 and 5 position for the future of the franchise. Depending on Eddy to develop like Shaq is like getting Curry from a Stone.


  49. frye need a vetran by his side. eddy curry needs to go… NOW! a trade i nthe offseason possibly. we need a paul gasol, keving garnet, or jermaine o’neal by his side. garnet would be a perfect center in the slack east. we are kings amongst jestures out here. all we need is a good big man with experience…a god big man. not these half hearts that we keep picking up,, oh yeah and drafting pat jr wouldn’t hurt either!

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