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Monday, November 24, 2014

Clyde & Tommy, An APBRmetrics Sci-Fi Tale (Part II)

Part II, The Script

When the final horn echoes through the arena, Tommy Heinsohn only allows himself thirty seconds to savor the moment. He counts the seconds down, just as he’d counted down from 4.1 seconds to 0.6 seconds moments earlier, and in that time, the exponentiality of the curve of his smile grows larger and larger. This is a measured act, and when he is through, he nods, stands, and makes his way towards Walt Clyde Frazier. As he touches the shoulder of Frazier’s taupe polyester suit, there is a flash of light, and again the two find themselves sitting at that same pub.

“You know, Walt, that man, what was his name? Woody? It seemed like he was trying to get under our skin the other night, with that talk about how we got here.”

“Yes,” Clyde says distractedly. Something has caught his interest. He slides off his stool and makes his way towards a dark corner of the bar. Seated at a square table are four large black men, each wearing an orange headband and an orange and blue jersey with the number seven knit to the back. All four of them have pints of some dark brew in front of them, and each’s nose hangs less than a centimeter above the rim of his glass. The quartet is motionless except for the occasional slowly drawn breath or clenching and unclenching of fist.

“Carmelo?” Clyde says.

“Yeah?” one of the men says. Another sighs loudly. A third slouches back into his chair and rests an arm over its back. The last shakes his head then takes his headband off his head and flicks it towards a bar stool. It’s a perfect shot; the headband catches the backrest of the stool and hangs there. The other three Carmelos take their headbands off and follow suit until all four headbands hang on the corner of the barstool.

Heinsohn shows up just in time to offer sarcastic applause.

“Carmelo,” Clyde says again, “there were ten of you before. Where did the other six go?”

The slouching Carmelo looks up from the table and makes eye contact with Clyde. He offers a pitiable smile. “Yeah, I had it going,” he says.

Clyde nudges Heinsohn, who is now standing at his elbow. Heinsohn grumbles. Clyde nudges him again. He whispers into Heinsohn’s ear, “I know it’s in your head; say what you know must be said.”

“What my dear friend Clyde wants me to tell you is that your game score in game one was 3.8. Tonight it was 38.3. I’m going to give you a Tommy point for your game tonight. Don’t, ah, don’t spend it all in one place.”

“He’s right, ‘Melo. Your game score was higher than Chris Paul’s, and his team beat the greatest of them all,” Clyde says. “That puts you 37th all time for a playoff game game score. Guess how many of the players above you on that list lost their game.”

One Carmelo says to the table, “I don’t remember Clyde being such a nerd.” This comment seems to cheer up all the Carmelos. They share a laugh. Perhaps due to Clyde’s unchanged expression, those widened eyes, a side-effect of The Event, one of the Carmelo Anthony’s says, “I dunno, Clyde. How many?”

“Three,” Tommy says.

There is a commotion at the door. A small black man enters the pub carrying and large rectangular object wrapped in a plastic bag. The object is larger than his entire upper body, so large that it covers his face all the way up to his black and brown plastic frame glasses. He wears a jersey as well. It is a bright orange and blue, and on its back are the letters F-I-E-L-D-S.

The words, “PER of -4.5,” come out of Heinsohn’s mouth.

“O-Rating of 23,” Clyde says, then covers his mouth.

“Win Score of -0.132,” Heinsohn says, louder this time. He begins to walk towards the man. As he walks, however, a voice comes from the bar. It is Woody in his tuxedo.

“Oh hey, Spike, how is the movie going?” Woody says.

“It’s going fine,” Spike says, heaving the object up onto the bar. He looks to Heinsohn and Clyde and says, “It’s not my best work, but at least it’s paying for those court-side seats.”

“You’re here for these two, I’m guessing.” Woody says, gesturing towards our heroes. “The boss had me write it down. He said you’d be here at midnight on the dot, and here you are, and if I had a watch I’ll bet it would say midnight on the dot.”

“That’s right, Woody. You are exactly right. Clyde, Tommy, come here. I want to show you something.”

Clyde and Heinsohn walk up next to Spike, and Spike says, “I have pleasantries that I’d like to share with one of you, and unpleasantries that I’d like to share with the other, but there’s no time for that now. I have to show you something.” Spike yanks the plastic bag from the object, revealing an ancient looking book. Clyde and Heinsohn lean over and read the title: “Playoffs: Boston Versus New York, a screenplay by DJS.”

“This,” Spike says, “Is a very powerful book.”

“It smells funny, and like money,” Clyde says.

“It does smell funny,” Spike says, “and it can make people act funny too. At least that’s what people say. Some say it predicts the future, others say it is defined by the future, that the words on the page change to fit whatever future is going to come.”

“Well,” Clyde says, “Why don’t you just read it and see if what’s in it comes true?”

Spike smiles. “Well,” he says, “as you can see, it’s pretty long, and the writing, to be honest, it’s pretty terrible and confusing, so what I’m trying to say is that whenever I try to read it, I fall asleep, so you two, I saw you here, and I thought, ‘Well maybe these two will have better luck than I have had reading this big boring book,’ and that’s why I called you over here.”

Clyde raises his hand towards the book. “May I?” he says.

“Wait,” Woody says, “Hold on a second. Weren’t you telling me something the other day about needing some secret pass–”

“That’s it,” Heinsohn says, cutting off Woody. “I’ve had enough of the mumbo jumbo here,” he says, and he reaches for the book, and as he touches it, a blue-gray vortex forms, and in 3.2 milliseconds Clyde and Tommy shrink away to nothing. They reappear on a bench in the largest park in the largest city of the largest constitutional republic on this planet. Neither can avoid the sense of this city’s gravity, that the weight and will of it will have some bearing on the event soon to take place at its very heart.

59 comments on “Clyde & Tommy, An APBRmetrics Sci-Fi Tale (Part II)

  1. latke

    Thanks, Nick.

    Could anyone argue with the statement that the Thunder are by far playing the best ball in the NBA right now? I think Denver would have won any other matchup, not that they’re done.

  2. tenebrous

    There are a lot of words here and yet they seem short. That makes it – Very good stuff! You should turn this into a book – Kidding aside.

  3. tenebrous

    latke:
    Thanks, Nick.

    Could anyone argue with the statement that the Thunder are by far playing the best ball in the NBA right now? I think Denver would have won any other matchup, not that they’re done.

    I would say Denver is not playing D as opposed to Thunder (Sonics) outplaying Denver. Plus missing shots doesn’t help either.

  4. Frank

    tenebrous: I would say Denver is not playing D as opposed to Thunder (Sonics) outplaying Denver. Plus missing shots doesn’t help either.

    I’m sure it’s a combination of Denver not playing well and OKC being a great team, but I think this series has already showed Denver’s inability to score in the half-court and lack of a guy who can reliably get up a reasonable shot if plays break down. I watched some of the 4th quarter last night, and unless it was Lawson or Felton in transition, Denver’s offense just looked terrible.

    Goes to show that in the playoffs, good defensive teams learn your plays and your sets and take them away – meaning you need either PERFECT execution of those sets, easy buckets in transition, or at least one player (ie. Melo, Durant, etc.) who can put enough pressure on the D on his own to force the defense to stray from what it wants to do.

  5. tenebrous

    Yes, but I thought they had Nene who can, at least, be thought how to play with his back to the basket, demand double team and dishout if needed. But yes, the Sonics are a tough team to guard.

  6. Brian Cronin

    I don’t know if the Thunder are playing the best ball, but I do think that they were the absolute worst match-up for Denver. They are a better team than Denver and they play the same style as Denver. This was pretty clear in their regular season match-ups and it is why I never thought Denver stood a chance against OKC (typically, if you lose every regular season match-up to another team and that team is the home team in the playoffs, you’re going to lose – provided, of course, that nothing changed in the meantime – the Knicks, to wit, only faced Boston once with each team playing their current squad – OKC and Denver played at least three times with their current squads). Really, the key for Denver is to next year do the same as they did this year post-Melo, only do it the whole season long so that they get a high seed and avoid OKC in the first round.

  7. jon abbey

    OKC does look great, but let’s see how teams look on the road before anointing anyone. MIA/OKC would be an awesome final.

  8. Brian Cronin

    OKC does look great, but let’s see how teams look on the road before anointing anyone. MIA/OKC would be an awesome final.

    Oh man, that would be an amazing final! And I like OKC enough to actually root for them (as opposed to my typical NBA Finals attitude, which is usually rooting against a team I hate)!

  9. Frank

    Going into game 4 I think the biggest issues are injury (of course) but also how we stop Rondo in transition. Clearly we need to have the bigs get back, but I wonder (like others here did before game 3) whether it would be better to have TD chase Ray Allen around and have Fields or Jefferies have primary responsibility for Rondo. We basically lost the game because Rondo was given a free pass to the basket all night. I seriously wonder whether that was the single worst defensive PG performance of the year. When the opposing PG gets something like 14 layups in 1 game, clearly we have a problem. Defense is supposed to be the strength of TD’s game, but like others here suggested, he’s better being a ballhawk/pressure guy. Did not seem like he knew what to do when asked to play off someone.

  10. latke

    I honestly think the Shaq thing will be helpful for us. His presence will open up the 3 point line/pick and roll game a lot, and if we can make those threes, I think we can win. I also doubt he’ll play too many minutes, especially if we push the pace.

  11. Brian Cronin

    The Wall Street Journal gave some love to my Sports Legends Revealeds today (you can read it here). Pretty neat!

  12. Spree8nyk8

    Holy fucking hell man, idk if theres like a draft or something to assign bloggers to teams, but jeez i hope we get new ones next year. I’d trade every blogger we have just to get one blogger that would “occasionally” support the team when they get chosen to cover the team on actual espn.com articles. I mean do we have to be a ten point favorite for any of you guys to give us a “chance” to win?

    this reaction is mainly to this most recent 5 on 5 article on espn.com where we had two Knickerblogger bloggers on the panel.

    They lob in TWO softball type questions where even a semi fan could have answered in a fashion that was positive towards the Knicks without being considered a homer.

    Fact or Fiction: The Knicks are unlucky to be down 2-0 vs. the Celtics. Caleb says Fiction? Really? are you serious? First off to have leads with 15 seconds or left in back to back games and lose is unlucky for anyone, let alone to have one of the games have the refs steal it, and the other you lose 2 of your big 3. How can you possibly as a sportsfan let alone a Knick Blogger say this with a straight face?

    Fact or Fiction: All three the series played on Friday will go to a Game 7.

    I can understand saying of course all of those series won’t go 7 games, what I don’t get is why When the Celtics haven’t played anywhere near good in this series do both of our bloggers give them no shot to extend the series? And Cronin goes as far as to say “The Knicks, with their various plagues, probably won’t take Boston to six games, let alone seven. ”

    I mean seriously all you guys ever do is pick favorites to win. How hard is that? I mean it’s not like your being asked to pick winners ATS. So when you get a question like that, is there no fan in you that at least wants to hit the softball and say “yeah, they’ve played well enough that they could extend the series”? I mean it’s not like anyone is asking you to pick them to go to the finals, or to even win this…

  13. Count de Pennies

    Anyone else catch the Chris Johnson show in the second half of the Mavs-Blazer game Thursday?

    For those who were unable to see it: Johnson was sent into the game when Camby picked up his fourth foul… played six minutes … corralled 3 boards… had two blocks – including a huge swat of a Dirk runner in the lane that ignited the team, the crowd and decisively swung the momentum of the game in Portland’s favor.

    IIRC, there were more than a few here who were loudly clamoring for the Knicks to bring Johnson in for a looksee after the Melo trade left the team with a gaping hole at center. Judging by his six minute showing against Dallas last night, it appears they may have been on to something. He may not be the second coming of Anthony Randolph (I kid, I kid) but I can’t help but think he could have made at least some contribution on this size depleted roster.

    Oh well. The only consolation here is that Boston actually did sign him to a 10-day contract, only to let him walk when the deal expired.
    So although he never was give an opportunity in New York, I’m much happier that he’s now plying his trade in the Pacific Northwest than in New England.

  14. Brian Cronin

    To get to Game 7, the Knicks would have to win 3 out of the next 4 to a team they have not beaten all season, with an injured Billups and an injured Amar’e. If you think that will happen (not could happen, as that was not the question, it was what will happen), then you’re not thinking too clearly.

  15. Spree8nyk8

    1) Boston only played NY once in the regular season as currently constructed and that was very early on after the trade.

    2) Boston could easily have already lost the last 2 games, they SHOULD have lost at least one.

    3) The Knicks are coming back home

    4) The Knicks will be healthier this game than they were last game, and probably close to full strength sunday.

    5) The Knicks have led boston till late in the fourth in both games and they have yet to actually play well. Meaning it’s not like our best hasn’t been good enough, it’s our C+ game hasn’t been good enough.

    I don’t think that it’s beyond reason to suggest this team can go 7 with boston since they coulda/shoulda been halfway to sweeping them already.

    But hey man thumbs up for never picking against the odds dude. I mean if that’s all there is to it hell sign me up I’ll get paid to always say the favored team is gonna win. Seems pretty easy to me.

    Idk dude it’s not personal, just would be nice to have one blogger out there that semi believed in the team. I mean personally, when my favorite team gets fucked over in game one with a lead in the last 15 seconds, then my incredibly shorthanded team almost pulls one out leading again with about 15 seconds to go, both of those being on the road, and I’m coming home and getting my injured players back and they are asking me if this series will go 7 the last thing i’m publicly thinking is “hell i don’t think we are going 6″. I mean that’ pretty much means you don’t think they really have any chance to win 2 games at home to a team they narrowly lost two twice on the road. idgi smh

  16. Frank O.

    Frank:
    sounds like Shaq may play on sunday.We better run him and run him until he falls over.

    twice up and down the court should do.
    Of course, Shaq really doesn’t run anymore. It’s more accurately described as lumbering…

  17. Frank O.

    jon abbey:
    OKC does look great, but let’s see how teams look on the road before anointing anyone. MIA/OKC would be an awesome final.

    I hope Denver shows up strongly next game.

  18. Count de Pennies

    Brian Cronin: And I like OKC enough to actually root for them

    Sorry, just can’t agree with you here. Much as I may like some of the players on their roster, I still can’t stomach the underhanded way in which Bennett and his BFF, Stern, conspired to spirit the Artists Formerly Known as the Sonics away from a town that had loyally supported them for over 40 years.

    So don’t bother saving me a seat on the Plunder bandwagon. I’d hate to see their owner’s dirtbaggery rewarded with an NBA title just a few years removed from the commission of his crime.

    Go Knuggets.

  19. TDM

    Alan Hahn is reporting that STAT left the Knicks’ shootaround and that Extra E is now practicing with the starters. That doesn’t sound good.

    Also, did anyone catch Barkley’s apology to Mike D during halftime of the Sixers/Heat game?

  20. Doug

    @22: I don’t get why you keep asking Mike to change his voice just because it’s playoff time. His realist take is a valuable counterweight to the blogs that mostly just root for the team.

    I mean everything I know about basketball strategy and advanced stats, I learned it here. If I want an optimistic perspective, I like P&T. However, I’m more of the nerd type so I consider this site my bread and butter.

  21. Count de Pennies

    TDM: Alan Hahn is reporting that STAT left the Knicks’ shootaround and that Extra E is now practicing with the starters.

    Well, I guess we’ll soon find out whether Melo is able to sustain his Superman act for a full 48 minutes. ‘Cause that’s pretty much what it’s gonna take for this team to squeak out a win if STAT can’t go.

  22. Frank O.

    I think it is entirely possible the Knicks take the next two. They have played well enough to win,and each game they learn a bit more, trust a bit more about each other.
    I think the team’s attitude after these two games has been remarkable. Their resilience has been inspiring. But this can’t go on forever. They need to get that win. If they get that win, then all bets are off.
    Boston knows it has been out-hustled and hashad trouble matching the Knicks energy. I don’t think they will get much from Amare tonight and Billups likely won’t play.
    Also remember that Shelden Williams hasn’t played. He was pretty important during the Knicks’ end of season winning streak.
    It’s going to come from Shawne and TD and Walker…who can’t go 0-11. He needs to control his emotions. If there is one player that has been easily provoked by the Celts, it’s been Walker. On the other hand, Landry has suddenly become a liability.
    The Garden is going to rock and that alone should help to elevate the Knicks’ game.
    Hard to expect 40 and 17 from Carmelo again, especially since the Celts will shape their D around stopping him and letting the other Knicks try to beat them.
    It is quite clear to me that the Celts are better at drawing up plays at the end of the game and executing them. It can’t come down to a last second shot again.
    I confess, there is a part of me that feels like the Knicks win tonight by 10…but writing it and seeing it, it looks ridiculous. Yet, there it is.
    Knicks by 10.

  23. Frank O.

    The Celts are exhausted. This isn’t a must win game for them and the Knicks will feed off the energy of the crowd. They can say they know the place will be rocking. They can say it will be crazy.
    The last Knicks game I attended was the final game against the Spurs in 1999, and I have never been in such a frenzied environment. The fans tried to will those Knicks to victory, but fell one point shy.
    I think the fans will be as crazy tonight and there isn’t a Knicks player that has ever experienced MSG under these circumstance.
    By 10.

  24. Frank O.

    alanhahn Alan Hahn
    Amar’e 90%. Chauncey 10%. RT @Barnes22: @alanhahn what would you say the percentages are Alan on AS and CB playing?

  25. Jim Cavan

    So instead of enjoying the Knicks’ first home playoff game in eons, I get stuck being on a stupid panel for a stupid Earth Day film festival. Stupid.

    I’m debating on whether to get / stay up til 330 in the morning for the encore showing of the game, but is there a site where I can just watch the game on demand as soon as I get home?

    Help a brother out.

  26. Spree8nyk8

    Doug:
    @22: I don’t get why you keep asking Mike to change his voice just because it’s playoff time. His realist take is a valuable counterweight to the blogs that mostly just root for the team.

    I mean everything I know about basketball strategy and advanced stats, I learned it here. If I want an optimistic perspective, I like P&T. However, I’m more of the nerd type so I consider this site my bread and butter.

    Oh, I wasn’t on any one person, it was on the collective group. We don’t have one blogger out of any of them that doesn’t do anything other than pick the favorites to win. There is nothing skillful about regurgitating the picks of others. And it is not overly optimistic that this group can go to 7 games with boston, hell that’s not even saying they win the series ffs. And actually if you actually take the time to read what I write next time before you hit the complain button you would have seen that mike is not even mentioned in the post. but w/e man aimlessly complain all you like

  27. Spree8nyk8

    I’m starting to get the feeling that some of you guys would pick against your kids little league team if you thought the statistical probability warranted it. SMH

  28. jon abbey

    Again, I’m a big Amare fan, but I hope he gets ripped all offseason for the stupid, thoughtless, selfish way he got hurt, costing NY any chance they had to win this series.

    Also, it’s pretty ironic reading Melo talking about how he needs help to win games, when his own selfish bargaining stance cost NY more players than they needed to give up for him.

    I honestly wish I could stop caring about this franchise, they don’t deserve my energy anymore.

  29. flossy

    Spree8nyk8:
    I’m starting to get the feeling that some of you guys would pick against your kids little league team if you thought the statistical probability warranted it.SMH

    Can I just ask, why do you come here if all you want is to read fan posts that pick the Knicks against all odds? Speaking as someone who doesn’t post here all that often, I come around when I want a dose of realism and some cold hard statistical analysis to back it up. I was under the impression that this is a place for stat-heads, not cheerleaders.

    I’m not saying it’s wrong for you to want to read Knicks commentary that is more optimistic than realistic… but there are like, so, so many Knicks blogs on the internet. So many. And probably 95% of them are of the “root-for-the-team-against-all-reason” variety. So instead of getting pissed that the Knickerblogger crew is doing what they always do, why not just spend your time reading about the Knicks at a venue where the tone is closer to what you say you want?

  30. flossy

    jon abbey:
    Again, I’m a big Amare fan, but I hope he gets ripped all offseason for the stupid, thoughtless, selfish way he got hurt, costing NY any chance they had to win this series.

    Also, it’s pretty ironic reading Melo talking about how he needs help to win games, when his own selfish bargaining stance cost NY more players than they needed to give up for him.

    I honestly wish I could stop caring about this franchise, they don’t deserve my energy anymore.

    Yeah… the stupid is strong with this team for sure.

  31. jon abbey

    flossy: Yeah… the stupid is strong with this team for sure.

    I still can’t get over that intentional foul by Toney Douglas at the end of the first half, no NCAA player would have been stupid enough to pick up his third foul in that situation, let alone a NBA player.

  32. flossy

    jon abbey: I still can’t get over that intentional foul by Toney Douglas at the end of the first half, no NCAA player would have been stupid enough to pick up his third foul in that situation, let alone a NBA player.

    Worse than the entire team just kind of standing around, watching Delonte West in the backcourt casually dribble away 3.5 of the last 4.1 seconds of the game… before THEN fouling with only 0.6 left?

  33. gregory arkadin

    My concern for the Knicks is the Celtics offense. Continuing the pattern of late this season (and last season), their offensive execution has not been at its peak. When it is running smoothly, they are a hard team to stop. A lot of this is on Rondo’s shoulders. We’ve seen it during brief stretches of games, but if they can get it going consistently…..So, if both teams are not operating at their best offensively, while also doing pretty well defensively, I think it clearly favors Boston. I just don’t think the the Knicks can possibly be successful without at least 2 players getting going and scoring 25+ points on their own, unless the team offense comes together and the team as a whole starts getting more 3s and points in the paint. If the Knicks get 95+ points, they’ve got a good chance. Tonight will be interesting.

    I too enjoy this site because it isn’t just another fan site–it’s very refreshing. I honestly think the board members have been more pro-Knicks (and anti-opposition) right now than they have for months. No matter what happens, I’m glad the Knicks are here in the playoffs, and am enjoying the present while looking forward to the future.

  34. jon abbey

    flossy: Worse than the entire team just kind of standing around, watching Delonte West in the backcourt casually dribble away 3.5 of the last 4.1 seconds of the game… before THEN fouling with only 0.6 left?

    no, but that’s been discussed plenty at least, the Douglas thing not so much.

    all of it, inexcusable for a team that has any hope of ever winning a playoff series.

  35. Spree8nyk8

    flossy: Can I just ask, why do you come here if all you want is to read fan posts that pick the Knicks against all odds?Speaking as someone who doesn’t post here all that often, I come around when I want a dose of realism and some cold hard statistical analysis to back it up.I was under the impression that this is a place for stat-heads, not cheerleaders.

    Once again, this was not even in reference to them winning the series. I know I already said it twice, but there is a third time now.

  36. Z

    jon abbey: I still can’t get over that intentional foul by Toney Douglas at the end of the first half, no NCAA player would have been stupid enough to pick up his third foul in that situation, let alone a NBA player.

    Wasn’t there like, 3 1/2 minutes left in the half when he did that? I think I had the sound off at the time, but it looked like he just ran up and knocked Rondo over for no apparent reason. Was that ever explained?

  37. latke

    Z- D’Antoni called for a foul because Amare asked out of the game. He didn’t mean for Toney to give it though.

  38. Brian Cronin

    Again, cut it out with the personal insults, folks. While I’m at it, also, cut it out with the “shaking my head” nonsense, as well.

  39. Brian Cronin

    Sorry, just can’t agree with you here. Much as I may like some of the players on their roster, I still can’t stomach the underhanded way in which Bennett and his BFF, Stern, conspired to spirit the Artists Formerly Known as the Sonics away from a town that had loyally supported them for over 40 years.

    So don’t bother saving me a seat on the Plunder bandwagon. I’d hate to see their owner’s dirtbaggery rewarded with an NBA title just a few years removed from the commission of his crime.

    Go Knuggets.

    It was awful what Stern and Bennett did, but I can watch a Philadelphia 76ers game and not feel bad for Syracuse and an Indianapolis Colts game and not feel bad for Baltimore, so I can live with rooting for OKC.

    But oh yeah, I would prefer that the Knuggets beat them, I just don’t see how the Knuggets can manage it – OKC has owned them this year.

  40. tenebrous

    Brian Cronin: It was awful what Stern and Bennett did, but I can watch a Philadelphia 76ers game and not feel bad for Syracuse and an Indianapolis Colts game and not feel bad for Baltimore, so I can live with rooting for OKC.

    But oh yeah, I would prefer that the Knuggets beat them, I just don’t see how the Knuggets can manage it – OKC has owned them this year.

    I don’t know how you can do that. I think it’s always at the back of peoples heads. Even if they win, championship or not that always stays with you. Anyway it always stinks – right away or a day or two later.

    I don’t know, even if Melo gets 59 each night during the POffs if the Knicks come short of a championship the trade would be considered a failure – unless Stats prove me wrong (which is the actual reason for this site) of course. Other than that it’s about the ticket prices and the star power – you can’t blame management for that can you? You can’t blame management for looking forward. Today it’s about going out and having fun with your family, friends etc. As opposed to going out with only loudmouths who forget where they’re standing when they’re standing on it. I guess its either about being in a collective or being an individual. At the end of the day you close your eyes alone.

  41. tenebrous

    Cheerrleading is great, but constructive criticism is better – IMO. I’d rather say hey get a block, use your feet, get a dunk, pass and go for te rebound as supposed to, well fill in the blank ____.

  42. Doug

    Spree8nyk8: actually if you actually take the time to read what I write next time before you hit the complain button you would have seen that mike is not even mentioned in the post.but w/e man aimlessly complain all you like

    *DEAD*

    All I was trying to say is that if you want your fix of encouragement or optimism, there are other quality Knicks blogs for that. But hey, go after me all you want.

  43. Doug

    jon abbey:
    Again, I’m a big Amare fan, but I hope he gets ripped all offseason for the stupid, thoughtless, selfish way he got hurt, costing NY any chance they had to win this series.

    Didn’t I read it here that Amare does that touch-the-backboard dunk before every game? Sounded like a freak accident to me. I don’t feel that I can judge him.

  44. Frank

    Doug: Didn’t I read it here that Amare does that touch-the-backboard dunk before every game? Sounded like a freak accident to me. I don’t feel that I can judge him.

    sounds like a freak accident to me too. I’ve thrown out my back sneezing before, so it’s not like you can be super careful and avoid it – if it’s going to happen, it’s going to happen.

  45. art vandelay

    Key player to me tonight, believe it or not, is TONEY DOUGLAS. Aside from running the offense competently, he needs to keep Rondo from getting out in transition and wreaking havoc on fast breaks, and more importantly, he will NEED to knock down his threes, score 20+ points, have one of those big games every so often he does at MSG where he impacts the game offensively and defensively. It sounds like a lot to ask but he has done it several times in the past and is coming off, as far as I am concerned, two pretty poor overal games (aside from the big 3 in the last minute in game 1) in the first two in boston, so maybe he is due.

    He really seems to shoot well for the night when he comes out hitting shots….seems like it affects his confidence…and vice versa….play close attention to how he starts the game because his play in quarter 1 often dictates how he will play for the game based on my observations.

  46. Doug

    I won’t be able to watch tonight. I’m going to see The Decemberists. I bought my ticket two months ago. A real mixed blessing!

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