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Friday, December 19, 2014

Clipperblog Interview

When the Knicks played the Clippers back in November, they managed to survive Blake Griffin’s 44-point coming out party and eked out a 124-115 win at Staples Center. Danilo Gallinari and Amare Stoudemire combined to score 70 points, and the Knicks completed a three-game California sweep. A lot has changed since then, so in advance of Wednesday’s rematch I interviewed Breene Murphy of Clipperblog.com to get the scoop on what to expect from L.A.

Knickerblogger: When the Clippers lost to the Knicks on November 20th, their record dropped to a season-low 1-13. Since then, the Clippers have gone 18-18 (as of this week) and have turned some heads with wins over San Antonio, Los Angeles, Chicago, and Miami. How has this team changed since they last played New York?

Clipperblog: At the time of the Knicks and Clips first game, the Clippers were without Baron and Kaman, and both had been severely underwhelming in their early season play. Bledsoe and Aminu showed sparks, but the Clippers lost 12 of their first 13 games before losing again to the Knicks. But then Blake erupted, turned Mozgov into a worthless prop (although I see signs of Mozgov’s recovery) and while the team didn’t win, there was a resiliency and an identity that evolved.

It’s not quite as strong and balanced right now without Eric Gordon [out several weeks with a wrist injury]. But for a while, the Clips had Blake on the inside, Gordon on the outside, Baron Davis setting the table for everyone, which even made DeAndre Jordan a viable offensive option. Bledsoe’s quick improvement and Aminu’s three point shooting off the bench gave them a spark and they played extremely well with the suddenly loud Clipper home crowd.

However, right now the Clippers have Randy Foye at shooting guard with Gordon out. He’s been surprisingly effective lately, averaging 16 points in the last 7, but he’s still a downgrade from Gordon.

Also, DeAndre has been struggling in the last few games, Aminu’s shot has fallen off a cliff and other than the new 2 PG lineup with Baron, Bledsoe hasn’t had the same impact as before.

Basically, the Clippers are an up and down outfit this year.

Knickerblogger: We’ve all seen Blake Griffin’s highlight-reel dunks, but what else has he done for the Clippers this year to earn himself an All-Star selection?

Clipperblog: Everyone that watches the Clips has made the joke that Blake has made Baron care again, doesn’t that say it all? I do think it’s partly the dunks, because bringing excitement to the Clippers is no small feat, and the team has always needed this kind of positivity. But he’s also just a good all-around player. He has a simple, effective post game, he handles the ball well in transition (just ask Gallo), he passes well (the only PF that averages more assists is Boris Diaw), his shot isn’t great but it’s functional, he’s the hardest worker on the team and he has a resiliency that the team feeds from. He’s way more than the Clippers thought they would get in the first year and he’s looking like a future MVP. That’s how good he is. I don’t mean to say he’s perfect, his defense and his free throw shooting are pretty terrible, but he’s a cornerstone player that has made the entire Clipper Organization think positively. Consider that last statement.

Knickerblogger: Is there a player on the Clippers besides Griffin that we should keep an eye out for? Has anyone stepped up to fill the void of Eric Gordon?

Clipperblog: Foye has done admirably filling in for Gordon, but Gordon is the type of player that the Clippers can’t replace. Gordon is their crunch time scorer, their best defender and the player that the Clips look for big buckets down the stretch, so his injury is brutal for this team, especially on an 11 game road trip where momentum shots in the third and fourth quarters can salvage some wins. As for the players outside of Blake and EJ, there is a cadre of young talents. DeAndre Jordan is still inconsistent but he’s only 22. He has an amazing athletic ability, that allows him to block and dunk well. He still finds himself out of position and over eager on defense and he has no post game at all, but he complements Blake very well because he doesn’t require touches. Also, he’s a surprisingly good outlet passer.

Al-Farouq Aminu has been fascinating. After shooting 27 percent from three in college, he came out making everything. He’s come back down to earth quite a bit (35.5 percent now). But there is still the potential of his three point shooting ability, his great rebounding for a small forward and he has the hands to get steals and blocks. Also, he is so much fun to watch on the fast break where he’s wildly in control, sort of.

Eric Bledsoe is the player on the team that has the most upside other than Blake and EJ (Eric Gordon). Bledsoe is as fast as any player in the league and will make some of the most amazing athletic plays you’ll see (even if some are called fouls). This comparison will sound somewhat ludicrous considering the jump that Westbrook has made in the last months, but before that I thought Bledsoe shared some similarities. Both are uber-athletic guards that came from elite programs, played out of position (Wall took Bledsoe’s PG time, Collison took Westbrook’s), and can play hard nosed defense. I think that Bledsoe showed a lot of growth in his time starting, but has leveled off since then. Although, some of that that could have described Keyon Dooling at a point in his career, too. So expectations are tempered.

Clipperblog Insider Point #1: The Clippers start out hot in the first, they go cold in the third. If they’re losing, they’ll make a run in the fourth. It’s annoyingly predictable and not nearly as effective as Clipper fans would like. If the Knicks are down at the half, I don’t think the Knicks fans should fret, because I know I don’t feel comfortable.

Clipperblog Insider Point #2: Watch for the alley-oops. The Clippers love them. What makes them different with the Clippers is that they are so predictable, and can be, because Blake and DeAndre are so much more athletic than the players that guard them. Blake and DeAndre just get behind their defender, point up, and then jump for a Baron/Bledsoe/Foye pass. It happens at least a couple times a game, often on fast breaks.

Clipperblog Insider Point #3: In line with the fastbreaks, Aminu is fascinating on the run. Sometimes he threads 3-4 players for a layup, sometimes he gets a charging foul. But he never runs in a straight line and it’s always exciting, often times it’s funny.

51 comments on “Clipperblog Interview

  1. Spree8nyk8

    Billups just got hurt, I haven’t seen MRI results but I’m not in favor of moving Felton. Honestly, with the way the media is currently fucking the Knicks I’m pretty sure they really need to just put Landry into the trade and get it done. I mean every sports show out there has basically put Denver in a place of shame for doing this deal, and honestly it’s to the point where I just don’t see Denver being able to accept the offer. But I am 100% confident that adding Landry ends the discussion and finishes the deal. Idk, maybe they could add Azu, but with the guy not playing yet I think it rules that out and could actually look worse in the media’s eyes.

    God I mean if any other team had another team over the barrel like this the media would just say “well, nothing they can do”. But bc it’s the Knicks it’s like they are telling Denver “don’t let them treat you like a bitch!”

  2. Spree8nyk8

    And if anyone could please explain this to me i’d seriously love to understand it.

    I’ve watched a stupid amount of coverage this morning, and everyone pretty much says that a bynum for melo offer is MUCH better than the knicks offer. How is this possible? Bynum is constantly hurt and avg’s like 11 and 8. How is JUST bynum with 32 mil left on his contract a better offer than WC/Brewer/and MINNESOTA’s first round pick (which should be a high pick).

    I mean am i completely missing the boat on this? Because if you offered me bynum or Nene I’d take Nene. So is this just the media needing something to talk about or is this really a better offer? Because if THAT is a better offer then we probably do need to offer more. But adding Landry is EXACTLY where my offer would max out. I’d much rather add Azu (although we may look back on this later and be glad we got to keep Azu) at this point, but I don’t see that making a difference really.

  3. Z

    Love this new feature! Hope it’s here to stay!

    @2 How can Minnesota take back $10 more than it gives up? Figuring it’s a trade exception, why would they use it to acquire Eddy Curry? The trade exception produces just as much, and they don’t have to pay it (or feed it).

    @4 When Bynum is healthy he is a game changing player. He’s only 23. He’s 7’1″. He’s won championships. What is there not to get? He’d be the best player in that deal. (yes, even better than Wilson Chandler). It would be a coup by the Nuggets. The Knick deal is a truly terrible deal for them. Brewer isn’t good. Chandler is a FA. The pick is a crapshoot. Bynum could be the most dominating center in the league over the next 10 years.

  4. latke

    Z – Minny is 12 million under the cap, so the salaries don’t have to match. They can take back up to 12 million more than they give up.

    Spree – I think more likely than giving up Landry, the compromise may end up being us taking on one of Denver’s longer contracts. Balkman would be the cheapest option (1.675 million per year through 2012/13). We could probably then trade Balkman at the deadline next season to a team that’s under the cap and pay them $3 million (more than they’d have to pay him for the 1 1/3 seasons left on his contract). Chris Anderson is probably the next best option. His contract is bigger and a year longer, but he’s more valuable.

    The other option is to find a team that wants Chandler more. Dallas and San Antonio would probably both be interested. Would Dallas send a late first and Beaubois for Chandler? JJ Barea is looking more and more like their pg of the future.

    I wouldn’t rule out Fields’ inclusion, but i think it will only happen if Dolan flips out and forces the move. If not, then I think we’ll just wait it out, and if we can’t sign him until the offseason then so be it.

  5. Spree8nyk8

    @ Z, He has been CONSTANTLY injury plagued, and they already have a legit center. I don’t really see a 1:1 swap being better than getting a pick, a solid player, and a young cheap project.

    @Latke, at this point I honestly can’t really imagine anyway that Melo is NOT shipped by the deadline, and I really can’t see a rental offer being better than what is out there now. And I really can’t see NY risking missing out on him. I think he’s definitely here by the 24th 100% and the only question is what it’s going to cost. I think this lowball offer was a good strategy so that when we slightly sweeten it, then it becomes much more of a FINAL offer take it or leave it. But in reality, they will not let this opportunity slip. I can’t imagine that happening. My biggest fear right now is Gallo being put into the mix. I think Gallo needs to stay on the roster. He’s really showing signs of becoming great and with his efficiency adding Melo should make him even more difficult to match. Chandler on the other hand I don’t see really meshing as well with Anthony.

    idk man, i just really wish I could go to sleep and set my alarm for “when this shit is done”

  6. Tyler Murray Post author

    Speaking of Landry, I just asked Clipperblog if Clipper fans see Fields as a threat to win Rookie of the Year. Here’s how he answered:

    “No, they don’t. And they shouldn’t. Landry Fields and his story are great, but he’s nowhere near the player that Blake Griffin is. We’re talking historical seasons with Blake, but with Landry, it’s like he’s a super role player. I mean that in the best way possible. He’s the young kid that seems to have already learned how to play smartly and efficiently within his realm of talents. He helps the team whenever he’s on the floor, but his number doesn’t get called much and he finds his shots as a second/third/fourth option or on offensive rebounds (he’s a great rebounder).

    If it weren’t for Blake, I think Landry would be the front runner, but you have to consider that John Wall would still have some time to win that award and he’s both a more talented player and a more central player to his team.

    For New Yorkers, to give a larger perspective on Blake, imagine what you’d be saying if Amar’e was doing what he’s doing, only in his rookie year. Essentially, that’s what Blake has done this year (http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&p1=griffbl01&y1=2011&p2=stoudam01&y2=2011). He’s not as polished of a shooter as Amar’e is, nor the shot-blocker, but he’s a much better rebounder and passer and they both have the athleticism to rouse the fans from their seats.”

  7. Frank

    @Z – there is also that part about LA saying that they’re not trading Bynum. So unless there’s a big about-face, that trade just isn’t happening.

    If Denver threw that out there to get the Knicks to up their offer and Donnie knows they’re bluffing, it’ll just blow up in their faces – make them look even worse when they end up settling for the Chandler pupu platter.

  8. d-mar

    Absolute guarantee that in the next few weeks leading up to the trading deadline you will hear:

    1) Bulls are very interested in Melo and are in “preliminary” talks with the Nuggets
    2) Mavs would be very interested in a rent-a-Melo and are in “preliminary” talks with the Nuggets
    3) The NJ deal is back on the table

    These will all go the way of the supposed Bynum deal – rumors started by the Nuggets to get the Knicks to panic. Stay strong Donnie, the only ones who should be panicking right now are Nuggets ownership.

  9. John Kenney

    I wasn’t sure how I felt about getting Billups, but then I realized Ray has his same end-of-game mentality which is what I was worried about with Chauncey. And Chauncey’s hitting 44% of his 3’s — which as we all know is better than Ray. If Denver really wants to do that, let’s play it like we don’t want to and then jump at it later.

  10. ess-dog

    d-mar: These will all go the way of the supposed Bynum deal – rumors started by the Nuggets to get the Knicks to panic. Stay strong Donnie, the only ones who should be panicking right now are Nuggets ownership.  

    Another wild card could be if Melo gets pissed at NYK b/c he wants to come NOW as opposed to July. If he gets fed up, he could ok another location at the deadline if it looks like we’re going to wait until July. The Chandler/Brewer/pick trade shouldn’t be that hard to beat talent-wise but it does save the Nuggets a lot of $$$. God bless Donnie and his cap-ology.
    The other problem is, there are no good teams with movable assets that could do a better deal than NYK. Bynum is the best asset. Chicago has nothing. The Clips could be a wild card but have shown little interest for some reason. They could do Aminu/Kaman/Bledsoe and the Wolves #1. It’s a more talent/less savings deal.

  11. Frank

    John Kenney: I wasn’t sure how I felt about getting Billups, but then I realized Ray has his same end-of-game mentality which is what I was worried about with Chauncey. And Chauncey’s hitting 44% of his 3?s — which as we all know is better than Ray. If Denver really wants to do that, let’s play it like we don’t want to and then jump at it later.  

    Wow – and what a coincidence – Billups would come off the cap in the summer of 2012. Hmm. Where could we spend that money?

  12. Frank

    ess-dog:
    The Clips could be a wild card but have shown little interest for some reason.They could do Aminu/Kaman/Bledsoe and the Wolves #1.It’s a more talent/less savings deal.  

    Don’t think Melo would re-up with the Clips — I think he once said that joining the Nets would be a Lakers-Clippers-like situation. Pretty sure he wants no part of that and Sterling.

    http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/knicksblog/during_nyc_visit_carmelo_made_unfavorable_tC9WHK24SPFI1pEuj9lxjM

  13. rohank

    @9 Haha thanks for that ess-dog.

    Actually I read it somewhere else and wanted to see what it looked like in the trade machine and also what you guys thought of it.

    Given felton’s current slide and billups’ pedigree, I really like the deal. It is a win-now move but ALSO retains cap flexibility for 2012 as Frank mentioned above.

  14. Nick C.

    What’s funny is that the world outside of this board seems certain that Melo = championship championship contender. Talk radio in NYC is painful, particularly ESPN 1050. Look at the chat Spree was on … it says something like LAL is contender for years to come with Melo. In fact the only player of Melo’s ilk I can recall to move to a team and make them a contender (and scale down his game no less) was Adrian Dantley with Detroit. I’m not seeing it. I’m not even sure absent the knee issues Bynum for Melo isn’t a deal heavily in Denver’s favor.

  15. Caleb

    Nice work, Tyler.

    Nuggets could get a lot for Billups in a separate deal so I don’t see them trading him for Felton. Longshot is Billups AND Fields join deal, But at this point – I’d predict that Donnie holds firm.

    I agree w/#6 – at this point the Nugs’ best real hope is to unload a big contract. I’m sure Al Buckets is Plan A, but they can’t give him away, so from there they’ll work down to Chris Anderson, JR Smith and then Balkman. Unless it’s Balkman, you probably need a fourth team.

    You can work the #s but I don’t think the Nuggets want to expand the trade to add, say, Chris Anderson and Kelanna Azubuike. They can do better in a separate trade.

    The other thing that could sway the Nuggets is an extra draft pick. That would mean the Knicks shipping Walker or Azubuike or Williams (or Mozgov!) to a 4th team, for a pick they would send to Denver.

    As we know, 4-team trades get complicated. This might really be the best the Nuggets can do.

    Most of these other supposed offers are total smoke – you think the Bulls suddenly changed their mind and offered Noah? I’m sure the Mavs would be willing to trade, but what could they offer that trumps the Knicks?

    If Ujiri wasn’t a moron he would just take Randolph and Chandler and the 2014 pick and call it a day. History would not look badly on that!

    Unfortunately for him he’d rather have a mid-1st from Minnesota (Memphis or Utah’s pick).

    Hey, try this:
    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=5uuxcvs

    (or, find a 4th team that would give up a pick for Walker. The Bulls? Or someone early in the 2nd round?)

    By my calculation this deal saves the Nuggets $12.7 million in luxury tax, about $5 million in salary (cuts payroll by $15 million but the season is 1/3 over), and the Knicks could throw in $3 million cash. That’s more than $20 million. Plus future savings.

    Knicks get JR Smith to play Douglas’ minutes and Birdman to replace Turiaf – both upgrades…

  16. Spree8nyk8

    Z:Bynum could be the most dominating center in the league over the next 10 years.  

    Only if he changes his name to Dwight Howard.

    I don’t mind listening to the absurd about how great andrew effing bynum is, but that statement went a little past ridiculous. He’s not even better then the center they already have.

  17. Caleb

    @21 Didn’t Dallas trade all their picks to New Jersey?

    Otherwise, I dunno – seems like a wash, at best. Beaubois + 2 rentals, or Chandler + 2 picks? Of course I’d take Chandler + Randolph + a pick, in a heartbeat.

    @22 I don’t buy his analysis – as long as S&Ts are still allowed, which they probably will, it’s not that hard to make a deal.

    It’s true that Carmelo might start to get nervous if there’s no trade by the deadline – since he’d probably have to take less money in the summer. Not much less, necessarily, but almost definitely less than he’d get with an extension now.

  18. Jimmy C

    Spree8nyk8: i just really wish I could go to sleep and set my alarm for “when this shit is done”

    Truth. In the end I think something resembling the most recent proposed deal will end up going down. Does it suck for Denver? Yes, it sucks for Denver. But ask Toronto or Cleveland what sucks more. Denver fans will have to suffer through the rest of the season, and possibly next season, but if they play their cards right, they’ll have enough flexibility to make the rebuilding process much more seamless than if they simply take the “let’s go for one more run With Melo and damn the torpedoes” approach”. With or without Melo, there’s no way they’re getting through the West this year. If the Denver brain trust doesn’t understand that, then they deserve whatever happens to them come July.

    Donnie has been doing this for decades. What’s more, he knew what he was getting when he came to New York, both in terms of the dingbat owner at the helm, and the insane media cauldron that would be in his shit at every conceivable turn. True, it’s one thing to ignore the media — if you can’t do that, you will not survive in this kind of capacity in this city, let alone succeed — but Dolan getting involved is definitely worrisome. Still, there have been reports that Stern is talking up DW’s job so far and all but demanding he stay, basically indicating to Dolan he’d better back off.

    If Donnie ups the offer between now and the 24th, I can almost guarantee it doesn’t include Fields or Gallo. Again, he’s been doing this — and doing it at a high level — for far too long to let this circus change the way he reads the table.

  19. Caleb

    Caleb: @21 Didn’t Dallas trade all their picks to New Jersey?  

    Nope! No more picks owed.

    Still don’t think that’s necessarily a better offer. Beaubois vs. Chandler. A lower pick than the Knicks would offer. No 2014 pick. I guess if you put value on Butler & Stevenson it gives an edge to Dallas, but it’s only 2 months worth so depends how Denver views it.

  20. Spree8nyk8

    Jimmy C:
    Truth. In the end I think something resembling the most recent proposed deal will end up going down. .  

    Can’t share your sentiment there. I think that one of the rental teams will at least make an offer that forces NY to alter the deal. And my personal belief is that it’s gonna end up costing fields.

  21. John Kenney

    I think Al isn’t even worth it for this year. He’d throw off our chemistry… remember those quotes he made about Gallo?

  22. Jimmy C

    ess-dog: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4z82l3g

    But more likely in the scope of the T-Wolves trade where Minny eats the Curry $$ and Brewer goes to Denver instead of Minny.

    That’s an awful lot of money for them to save. But then we have to move Al before 2012 somehow. Ugh. ess-dog

    That’s an awful lot of SF goin’ on. Maybe Denver can figure out a way to stitch all three of them together to form a 650lb Frankenstein swingman. Probably wouldn’t be losing much on the defensive end anyway.

    Either way, I don’t see how we justify taking on Al Buckets again. We’d probably be able to move him, but the question is, for what? The mind shudders.

    Just out of curiosity, what would we actually do if we ended up moving 4 or 5 players for Melo? Just siphon from the D-League? Would we simply play the rest of the season with 9 guys? Sign two or three cast-offs? I should know a little more in terms of precedent on something like this, but alas I do not.

  23. Jimmy C

    Spree8nyk8:
    Can’t share your sentiment there.I think that one of the rental teams will at least make an offer that forces NY to alter the deal.And my personal belief is that it’s gonna end up costing fields.  

    I just don’t see a team actually trying the rental approach, except MAYBE Dallas. And that’s an enormous, Brendan Hayward-sized maybe. If Walsh hasn’t been pushed to up the ante after legitimate, long-term focused posturings by New Jersey and L.A., why would a desperation rental move by a Houston or Dallas push him over the edge?

    Again, we need to give DW a little more credit. Why would he move Fields, unless it was in the context of a straight-up or otherwise absurdly lopsided trade? He’s improved with every game, he’s young, and most importantly, CHEAP. Walsh has single-handedly put our financial house in order. Why would he give up a player 5 years younger than Melo who, while not possessing the pure talent, brings the kind of intangibles Fields does?

  24. BigBlueAL

    Clippers played last night and are w/o Eric Gordon. Would be nice to see the Knicks have an easy win tonight but I would expect the usual who gives a crap about defense 1st half, lead or trail at halftime by a couple of points then pull away from the Clippers early in the 4th quarter.

  25. Frank

    twitterverse just went bonkers with Carmelo saying he would “take a hard look” at signing an extension with DEN if he’s not dealt.

    Ouch (if you’re pro-Melo-to-NYK).
    Now Melo is trying to put pressure on Donnie to up his offer also. C’mon Donnie, hold firm.

  26. NateRobinson

    BigBlue

    Seems like you’ve watched the Knick games lol…

    Funny is that stats back it up as well, the Knicks have one of the worse point differential in the 1st and 2nd quarter while having a top 5 point differential in the 4th quarter.

    Could that be attributed to the pace the Knicks pressure teams to play as well as the speed they play? (Yes the defensive scheme is designed to do so)

  27. NateRobinson

    I rather not have Melo than trade the entire stall of thoroughbreds we have. No way in hell does that put us on a Championship level and in fact it can sabotage our aspirations. We are a very young team and they have room to grow. Gallo, Wilson, Timo, Fields, Ants-Rants (chuckles) all have potential we should not give them away just yet.

    Like Frank said, hold firm Donnie!

  28. BigBlueAL

    NateRobinson: BigBlueSeems like you’ve watched the Knick games lol…Funny is that stats back it up as well, the Knicks have one of the worse point differential in the 1st and 2nd quarter while having a top 5 point differential in the 4th quarter.Could that be attributed to the pace the Knicks pressure teams to play as well as the speed they play? (Yes the defensive scheme is designed to do so)  

    I know Trautwig and Tripucka harp alot on the Knicks being in better shape and condition than their opponents which helps them alot in the 4th quarter especially in home games.

    Of course we have seen the Knicks blow games in the 4th quarter and they only have I believe won twice when trailing heading into the 4th quarter but they have shown on many occasions the ability to turn close games in the 4th quarter into fairly easy wins at home which is something I assume happens again tonight.

  29. Z

    John Kenney: I think Al isn’t even worth it for this year. He’d throw off our chemistry… remember those quotes he made about Gallo?  

    I think if Harrington is the price we pay to hold on to Fields and/or Gallinari, it could prove to be the best $30 million we ever spent (yes, even better than the $30 million it took to draft Renaldo Balkman :)

    Besides, chemistry’s not an issue. Coach D will just bench him, never talk to him, never make eye contact. He’s perfected the technique since coming here.

  30. Z

    John Kenney: Is it possible to buy out a 5 year contract? hahahaha  

    Yeah, right… But isn’t there a chance the new CBA allows for another 1 time amnesty thingamajig like they did in 2005 (when we waived Jerome Williams in 2005). Just the possibility of that mitigates the Harrington cost to a degree.

  31. Frank

    Gotta agree with Z – if taking on Al’s MLE is the price for holding onto our other young guys, I’d do it too. Harrington at $6M per is not that terrible a deal – the length is an albatross but it’s not like a Curry $11M contract. And Al WANTS to be here and can play a serviceable stretch 4 if necessary. Put him on the 2nd unit where his scoring can be useful and give him 15 minutes/game to keep him happy. Not that bad.

    I think if we are sold on our young guys (Gallo/Fields essentially) then we need to be ready to give up some amount of future flexibility if absolutely necessary in order to get Melo at what is basically a bargain basement price.

  32. jon abbey

    Frank: twitterverse just went bonkers with Carmelo saying he would “take a hard look” at signing an extension with DEN if he’s not dealt.Ouch (if you’re pro-Melo-to-NYK).
    Now Melo is trying to put pressure on Donnie to up his offer also. C’mon Donnie, hold firm.  

    actually I’d say the opposite, if Denver thinks he’s telling the truth (unlikely IMO), then they’re more likely to not trade him to anyone, upping the chances he makes it to free agency and we can keep Gallo/Fields.

  33. latke

    jon abbey:
    actually I’d say the opposite, if Denver thinks he’s telling the truth (unlikely IMO), then they’re more likely to not trade him to anyone, upping the chances he makes it to free agency and we can keep Gallo/Fields.  

    Interesting. I suppose that could be the explanation, but it would mean ‘Melo is a lot more selfless than we make him out to be. I mean, ‘Melo’s extension doesn’t have to be the max. Do you also think that if we traded for him, he’d agree to re-sign for less than max dollars?

  34. jon abbey

    I don’t know his motivations, but I do get the sense that he’s not as tied to max money as everyone seems to think. if Walsh could present a good case as to why it would benefit him more to sign for less, I could see him going for it.

  35. Ricky_J

    jon abbey: … if Walsh could present a good case as to why it would benefit him more to sign for less, I could see him going for it.  (Quote)

    Like maybe re-hire those consultants to prove he’ll become a billionaire here

  36. Tyler Murray Post author

    Nick C.: Tyler I know this is a late query but what does Clipperblog have to say about Ike Diogu?  

    Nick,

    I sent them a follow up question once I read this, but they’ve yet to get back to me. My fault for not asking about Diogu in the first place.

  37. Nick C.

    Thanks. He’s a bit obscure and he came back from whereever it is he was the last 2-3 seasons. No biggie.

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