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		<title>By: jon abbey</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 04:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[maybe if he could be part of an offense/defense platoon...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe if he could be part of an offense/defense platoon&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Shanoe</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 02:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rumors have Reggie Miller considering playing 15 minutes a game for Boston. Interesting thought. The guy is old as heck but an old Miller for 10 minutes a game is still better than a young stupid player.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rumors have Reggie Miller considering playing 15 minutes a game for Boston. Interesting thought. The guy is old as heck but an old Miller for 10 minutes a game is still better than a young stupid player.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken "The Animal" Bannister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken "The Animal" Bannister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 23:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joined: 26 Mar 2005
Location: Brooklyn 	

Maybe I&#039;ve gotten bored w/Kennedy Assassination conspiracies but...

Does anyone else think David Stern made a few calls to McHale, Ainge, Zeke and Petrie saying something to the effect of: &quot;You&#039;re gonna make trade Garnett and/or Artest anyway. We need something BIG to get people to stop talking about the fact that games may or may not have been fixed. Just do these deals. Pronto. Tout suite. NOW!&quot;

Or am I just getting paranoid?

I imagine the convo went something like this...

Setting - A wood-paneled office in the commissioner&#039;s office. A bespectacled man places a conference call

STERN
Hey guys.

MCHALE
Hello Mister Stern

AINGE
Hello Mister Stern

PETRIE
Hello Mister Stern

ISIAH
Hey Davey!

STERN
So, I don&#039;t know if you lads read the paper, but we&#039;ve gotten in a wee bit of trouble...bookies, gambling, Tony Soprano may be involved. I really don&#039;t know. Those bastards at the FBI won&#039;t tell me shit! The fuckers!

MCHALE
Yes sir.

AINGE
I agree with Kevin. Fuckers indeed, sir.

PETRIE
FBI my fanny

ISIAH
Really? When did that happen? I don&#039;t watch the Sopranos anymore. I&#039;m into Entourage. Have you seen the ladies on that show? Sometimes they take their clothes off and everything!

STERN
Well fellows, we need something to...let&#039;s say...take everyone&#039;s mind off the fact that the &#039;06 finals and the Spurs/Suns &#039;07 semis may have been...how should I put it...compromised

MCHALE
Totally agree sir

AINGE
Ditto...What Kevin said

PETRIE
Got your back on this one, your holiness.

ISIAH
Are the finals over already? Is it time for me to draft yet?

STERN
So. Since you&#039;re going to move Garnett....

MCHALE
What do you want for him?

STERN
What?

MCHALE
What do you want? For Garnett? What do you have to trade?

STERN
Kevin, you can&#039;t trade Garnett to me. I don&#039;t run a team.

MCHALE
You run all the teams. You&#039;re the boss!

STERN
Let me start over..

AINGE
I want him, Kevin! Can I have him? Please?

MCHALE
Is that OK, Mister Stern?

STERN
Yes, Kevin, you can trade Garnett to Danny

MCHALE
Neat-o! He&#039;s my bestest friend

ISIAH
Garnett&#039;s available?

AINGE
He&#039;s mine! Mine! Mine!!!!!! Kevin&#039;s my bestest buddy and he promised!

KEVIN
Yeah Zeke, you can&#039;t have him! Nyah, Nyah, Nyah!

ISIAH
Aww crackers...

STERN
I think Geoff has a player he&#039;d like to trade, Isiah

ISIAH
Chris Webber! Whaddaya want for him?

STERN
You can&#039;t get Webber, Isiah.

ISIAH
Why not? I want Webber!

STERN
Well, for one his knee cartilage is starting to resemble guacamole. And he isn&#039;t on Sacramento anymore..

ISIAH
Aww crackers...

GEOFF
You can have Artest

ISIAH
Wait a minute, I know that guy...

STERN
You used to coach him.

ISIAH
No that isn&#039;t it...

STERN
He went bonkers in Detroit...

ISIAH
No, that&#039;s not where I know him...

STERN
He threatened to take a leave of absence to record a rap album? He knocked over a monitor at MSG? He beat the crap out of his wife?

ISIAH
No...I remember! He shaved &#039;Tru Warier&#039; into his head! That&#039;s funny &#039;cause he spelled it wrong! I want him! Can I have him? Please! I&#039;ll clean my room! I won&#039;t run with scissors. I&#039;ll stop sexually harrass...

STERN
Yes! That&#039;s it Isiah. You can have him. But you have to give Geoff something in return.

PETRIE
Whattaya got?

ISIAH
Ummm...Jerome James! He&#039;s funny too!

STERN
Let&#039;s start over...

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joined: 26 Mar 2005<br />
Location: Brooklyn 	</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;ve gotten bored w/Kennedy Assassination conspiracies but&#8230;</p>
<p>Does anyone else think David Stern made a few calls to McHale, Ainge, Zeke and Petrie saying something to the effect of: &#8220;You&#8217;re gonna make trade Garnett and/or Artest anyway. We need something BIG to get people to stop talking about the fact that games may or may not have been fixed. Just do these deals. Pronto. Tout suite. NOW!&#8221;</p>
<p>Or am I just getting paranoid?</p>
<p>I imagine the convo went something like this&#8230;</p>
<p>Setting &#8211; A wood-paneled office in the commissioner&#8217;s office. A bespectacled man places a conference call</p>
<p>STERN<br />
Hey guys.</p>
<p>MCHALE<br />
Hello Mister Stern</p>
<p>AINGE<br />
Hello Mister Stern</p>
<p>PETRIE<br />
Hello Mister Stern</p>
<p>ISIAH<br />
Hey Davey!</p>
<p>STERN<br />
So, I don&#8217;t know if you lads read the paper, but we&#8217;ve gotten in a wee bit of trouble&#8230;bookies, gambling, Tony Soprano may be involved. I really don&#8217;t know. Those bastards at the FBI won&#8217;t tell me shit! The fuckers!</p>
<p>MCHALE<br />
Yes sir.</p>
<p>AINGE<br />
I agree with Kevin. Fuckers indeed, sir.</p>
<p>PETRIE<br />
FBI my fanny</p>
<p>ISIAH<br />
Really? When did that happen? I don&#8217;t watch the Sopranos anymore. I&#8217;m into Entourage. Have you seen the ladies on that show? Sometimes they take their clothes off and everything!</p>
<p>STERN<br />
Well fellows, we need something to&#8230;let&#8217;s say&#8230;take everyone&#8217;s mind off the fact that the &#8217;06 finals and the Spurs/Suns &#8217;07 semis may have been&#8230;how should I put it&#8230;compromised</p>
<p>MCHALE<br />
Totally agree sir</p>
<p>AINGE<br />
Ditto&#8230;What Kevin said</p>
<p>PETRIE<br />
Got your back on this one, your holiness.</p>
<p>ISIAH<br />
Are the finals over already? Is it time for me to draft yet?</p>
<p>STERN<br />
So. Since you&#8217;re going to move Garnett&#8230;.</p>
<p>MCHALE<br />
What do you want for him?</p>
<p>STERN<br />
What?</p>
<p>MCHALE<br />
What do you want? For Garnett? What do you have to trade?</p>
<p>STERN<br />
Kevin, you can&#8217;t trade Garnett to me. I don&#8217;t run a team.</p>
<p>MCHALE<br />
You run all the teams. You&#8217;re the boss!</p>
<p>STERN<br />
Let me start over..</p>
<p>AINGE<br />
I want him, Kevin! Can I have him? Please?</p>
<p>MCHALE<br />
Is that OK, Mister Stern?</p>
<p>STERN<br />
Yes, Kevin, you can trade Garnett to Danny</p>
<p>MCHALE<br />
Neat-o! He&#8217;s my bestest friend</p>
<p>ISIAH<br />
Garnett&#8217;s available?</p>
<p>AINGE<br />
He&#8217;s mine! Mine! Mine!!!!!! Kevin&#8217;s my bestest buddy and he promised!</p>
<p>KEVIN<br />
Yeah Zeke, you can&#8217;t have him! Nyah, Nyah, Nyah!</p>
<p>ISIAH<br />
Aww crackers&#8230;</p>
<p>STERN<br />
I think Geoff has a player he&#8217;d like to trade, Isiah</p>
<p>ISIAH<br />
Chris Webber! Whaddaya want for him?</p>
<p>STERN<br />
You can&#8217;t get Webber, Isiah.</p>
<p>ISIAH<br />
Why not? I want Webber!</p>
<p>STERN<br />
Well, for one his knee cartilage is starting to resemble guacamole. And he isn&#8217;t on Sacramento anymore..</p>
<p>ISIAH<br />
Aww crackers&#8230;</p>
<p>GEOFF<br />
You can have Artest</p>
<p>ISIAH<br />
Wait a minute, I know that guy&#8230;</p>
<p>STERN<br />
You used to coach him.</p>
<p>ISIAH<br />
No that isn&#8217;t it&#8230;</p>
<p>STERN<br />
He went bonkers in Detroit&#8230;</p>
<p>ISIAH<br />
No, that&#8217;s not where I know him&#8230;</p>
<p>STERN<br />
He threatened to take a leave of absence to record a rap album? He knocked over a monitor at MSG? He beat the crap out of his wife?</p>
<p>ISIAH<br />
No&#8230;I remember! He shaved &#8216;Tru Warier&#8217; into his head! That&#8217;s funny &#8217;cause he spelled it wrong! I want him! Can I have him? Please! I&#8217;ll clean my room! I won&#8217;t run with scissors. I&#8217;ll stop sexually harrass&#8230;</p>
<p>STERN<br />
Yes! That&#8217;s it Isiah. You can have him. But you have to give Geoff something in return.</p>
<p>PETRIE<br />
Whattaya got?</p>
<p>ISIAH<br />
Ummm&#8230;Jerome James! He&#8217;s funny too!</p>
<p>STERN<br />
Let&#8217;s start over&#8230;</p>
<p>Fin</p>
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		<title>By: iyamwutiam</title>
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		<dc:creator>iyamwutiam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 20:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Z:
I am not sure what you could point to -to say that Ainge has done a good job. Granted Chris Wallace did have too much input with his way out there picks of :
Joseph Forte, Kendrick Perkins, Jerome Moiso- with the only exception being Joe Johnson.  As for Ainge other than Al Jefferson  (I thik that was Chris Wallace as well though).

Check out:
http://www.firedannynow.com/firedannynow.php?subaction=showfull&amp;id=1156825144&amp;archive=&amp;start_from=&amp;ucat=&amp;

For a few of his spectacular moves.  I am not sure what everyone is talkig about in terms of stockpiling talent?  Delonte West, Tony Allen?  Has Gerald Green even become a 6th man of the year contender?  Let&#039;s not forget trading Brandon Roy for essentially Sebastian (I got my own movie) Telfair, trading away Joe Johnson, getting another overpaid dude in Wally, etc etc.  

I think when you contrast that with say (IMO) the worst knicks move :
James, Jeffries - it is no contest.

No doubt Ainge pulled off the deal.  But it is an amazing coincidence how many times spectacular deals are pulled off when they are about to get FIRED.  

Anyway - I am SURE I am not the only person dumbfounded by the trade - since we all know KG went public in refusing pretty much the same trade.  He may put on a smiling face - but---

I can&#039;t wait till October -]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Z:<br />
I am not sure what you could point to -to say that Ainge has done a good job. Granted Chris Wallace did have too much input with his way out there picks of :<br />
Joseph Forte, Kendrick Perkins, Jerome Moiso- with the only exception being Joe Johnson.  As for Ainge other than Al Jefferson  (I thik that was Chris Wallace as well though).</p>
<p>Check out:<br />
<a href="http://www.firedannynow.com/firedannynow.php?subaction=showfull&#038;id=1156825144&#038;archive=&#038;start_from=&#038;ucat=&#038;amp" rel="nofollow">http://www.firedannynow.com/firedannynow.php?subaction=showfull&#038;id=1156825144&#038;archive=&#038;start_from=&#038;ucat=&#038;amp</a>;</p>
<p>For a few of his spectacular moves.  I am not sure what everyone is talkig about in terms of stockpiling talent?  Delonte West, Tony Allen?  Has Gerald Green even become a 6th man of the year contender?  Let&#8217;s not forget trading Brandon Roy for essentially Sebastian (I got my own movie) Telfair, trading away Joe Johnson, getting another overpaid dude in Wally, etc etc.  </p>
<p>I think when you contrast that with say (IMO) the worst knicks move :<br />
James, Jeffries &#8211; it is no contest.</p>
<p>No doubt Ainge pulled off the deal.  But it is an amazing coincidence how many times spectacular deals are pulled off when they are about to get FIRED.  </p>
<p>Anyway &#8211; I am SURE I am not the only person dumbfounded by the trade &#8211; since we all know KG went public in refusing pretty much the same trade.  He may put on a smiling face &#8211; but&#8212;</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t wait till October -</p>
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		<title>By: bmj320</title>
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		<dc:creator>bmj320</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 18:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Balkman similiar to Pippen&quot;. LOL, that&#039;s classic. Not even on Pippen&#039;s worst day. Even as a rookie Pippen could score. He was a tremendous ballhandler and passer. Balkman is just an athletic freak. The sf position has been an eyesore for the Knicks for years. Isiah just do the deal for Artest already. Give up just about anyone on the roster except Marbury, Curry, Randolph and Lee. This can be a one year experiment if it doesnt work Artest can opt out after the season and we would still have Chandler and Nichols.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Balkman similiar to Pippen&#8221;. LOL, that&#8217;s classic. Not even on Pippen&#8217;s worst day. Even as a rookie Pippen could score. He was a tremendous ballhandler and passer. Balkman is just an athletic freak. The sf position has been an eyesore for the Knicks for years. Isiah just do the deal for Artest already. Give up just about anyone on the roster except Marbury, Curry, Randolph and Lee. This can be a one year experiment if it doesnt work Artest can opt out after the season and we would still have Chandler and Nichols.</p>
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		<title>By: Caleb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caleb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 10:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the picks that Minny got from Boston was their own, that they had traded to Boston in the Szerbiak deal. That&#039;s probably a top-3 pick.... add Jefferson and the other first-rounder... plus Gerald Green and Gomes who both look like they&#039;ll have decent NBA careers... on the whole I&#039;d say it&#039;s a good haul - not any worse than getting Deng, Gordon and Tyrus Thomas. Ainge paid a lot more than he had to, if you ask me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the picks that Minny got from Boston was their own, that they had traded to Boston in the Szerbiak deal. That&#8217;s probably a top-3 pick&#8230;. add Jefferson and the other first-rounder&#8230; plus Gerald Green and Gomes who both look like they&#8217;ll have decent NBA careers&#8230; on the whole I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s a good haul &#8211; not any worse than getting Deng, Gordon and Tyrus Thomas. Ainge paid a lot more than he had to, if you ask me.</p>
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		<title>By: Z</title>
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		<dc:creator>Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 04:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;a complete buffoon like Ainge gets bailed out.&quot;

It is interesting to me that Ainge is not getting credit for landing a player that every Knick fan seems to have wanted as well. Even if McHale handed him KG because they have a connection going back to playing days, isn&#039;t that a valuable tool for a GM to have? Isiah doesn&#039;t seem to have that kind of rapport with anyone in the league. His buddies from his playing days are all highly disreputable people, with the exception of Dumars who hasn&#039;t shown any interest in kicking back excess talent in Isiah&#039;s direction.

In fact, his crony from his playing days is his own assistant, which is nice and all, but he&#039;d be better served getting Aguirre a GM job on some dismantling organization and then going to lunch on it.

As for &quot;the picks make no sense to me - since with this trade (Boston) will never ever pick in the top 10 for the next 3 years - so why !?!??!&quot;

This seems kind of similar to the what people in the Knick&#039;s organization probably said when not protecting their pick in the Eddy Curry deal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;a complete buffoon like Ainge gets bailed out.&#8221;</p>
<p>It is interesting to me that Ainge is not getting credit for landing a player that every Knick fan seems to have wanted as well. Even if McHale handed him KG because they have a connection going back to playing days, isn&#8217;t that a valuable tool for a GM to have? Isiah doesn&#8217;t seem to have that kind of rapport with anyone in the league. His buddies from his playing days are all highly disreputable people, with the exception of Dumars who hasn&#8217;t shown any interest in kicking back excess talent in Isiah&#8217;s direction.</p>
<p>In fact, his crony from his playing days is his own assistant, which is nice and all, but he&#8217;d be better served getting Aguirre a GM job on some dismantling organization and then going to lunch on it.</p>
<p>As for &#8220;the picks make no sense to me &#8211; since with this trade (Boston) will never ever pick in the top 10 for the next 3 years &#8211; so why !?!??!&#8221;</p>
<p>This seems kind of similar to the what people in the Knick&#8217;s organization probably said when not protecting their pick in the Eddy Curry deal.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank O.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank O.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 23:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frank: Your lineup, 
C: Curry
PF: Lee
SF: Balkman
SG: Q
PG: Marbury
I think, would cause match up problems for most teams in the east. It would be active, strong on the boards, have inside and outside elements, and offer very solid perimeter defense. Also, everyone has very clearly defined roles. 
I&#039;m not sold that Marbury is a good defender. He&#039;s got a bit of the matador in him, and as he gets older, he tires and his defense suffers for it. But Q and Balkman and Lee together out there...I hope to see that combination.
But the Knicks, sadly, didn&#039;t spend all that money on Randolph so that he could play understudy to Curry, or Lee. 
Frank&#039;s lineup was one reason why I hated to see Frye go. He was cheap, had skills, and could spend some time maturing behind Lee, and the Knicks would benefit from his nifty mid-range shot when needed.
And how much better is Randolph than a Lee/Frye platoon at PF?
Ah, spilled milk
iyamwutiam:
I&#039;m not sure you can talk about the Knicks credibly without mentioning the cap. It&#039;s everything.
Isiah needs to put away the check book. As long as he is over the cap, he is ripe to have his pocket picked. They are always dealing from weakness. 
And Isiah is better finding young cheap talent than he is trying to find a talented but flawed player that he is arrogant enough to believe he can save these guys...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank: Your lineup,<br />
C: Curry<br />
PF: Lee<br />
SF: Balkman<br />
SG: Q<br />
PG: Marbury<br />
I think, would cause match up problems for most teams in the east. It would be active, strong on the boards, have inside and outside elements, and offer very solid perimeter defense. Also, everyone has very clearly defined roles.<br />
I&#8217;m not sold that Marbury is a good defender. He&#8217;s got a bit of the matador in him, and as he gets older, he tires and his defense suffers for it. But Q and Balkman and Lee together out there&#8230;I hope to see that combination.<br />
But the Knicks, sadly, didn&#8217;t spend all that money on Randolph so that he could play understudy to Curry, or Lee.<br />
Frank&#8217;s lineup was one reason why I hated to see Frye go. He was cheap, had skills, and could spend some time maturing behind Lee, and the Knicks would benefit from his nifty mid-range shot when needed.<br />
And how much better is Randolph than a Lee/Frye platoon at PF?<br />
Ah, spilled milk<br />
iyamwutiam:<br />
I&#8217;m not sure you can talk about the Knicks credibly without mentioning the cap. It&#8217;s everything.<br />
Isiah needs to put away the check book. As long as he is over the cap, he is ripe to have his pocket picked. They are always dealing from weakness.<br />
And Isiah is better finding young cheap talent than he is trying to find a talented but flawed player that he is arrogant enough to believe he can save these guys&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: iyamwutiam</title>
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		<dc:creator>iyamwutiam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 21:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am sure -like myself - a lot of guys are puzzled with HOW exactly Danny Ainge pulled this off.  In fact when the news first came out I refused to believe it -until I actually saw KG at the press conference.  In my mind - the answer is K. McHale and Glenn Taylor.  Even KG mentioned he changed his mind after talking to Taylor.   When the OWNER of the team comes to you and says your holding back the franchise (which you put on YOUR back for 12 years) - it&#039;s time to go - even if it is hell (Boston).

Basically - your talking about trading 3 number one draft picks (including Jefferson), two guys who can be cut soon and Theo Ratliff (11 million dollar expiring contract), and cash considerations.  In addition, the picks make no sense to me - since with this trade (Boston) will never ever pick in the top 10 for the next 3 years - so why !?!??!  


I am sure that the knicks,lakers, bulls and Phoenix (who gave away 3 picks) -all had deals on the table - but the celtic connection is what what got it done - not necessarily the best deal.  I am pretty sure that McHale is done and knows it and did this deal so he can have a job with the celtics at some point.


I am more than disappointed as are a lot of players, teams and fans all across the country.  I doubt the addition of Ray Allen did &#039;anything&#039; to convince KG - rather as i stated earlier it was Taylor - who basically said - your going to HAVE to go- since Kobe is the only player in the league whose contract actually says he has approval of trades - where has KG has a trade kicker.

Also - I have heard no news on the contract extension - and looking at hoopshype - doesn&#039;t really clarify the situation - anyone having more details on the financial aspect- I see him being paid 23-25 mill for 3 years(?) and then it goes down to 16-18M- not sure if thats the extension?  But I think KG would have gotten more on the open market next year.

Anyway - it sucks that a complete buffoon like Ainge gets bailed out.  But hey - we see that in corporate america -all the time.

As for comparing the knicks to the celtics and blamimg management - whether it is IT or for other teams Mullin/ Paxson/ Kerr etc etc - I don&#039;t think anyone saw this deal coming and there is more to this (behind the scenes).  So I think comparing or berating IT for not doing a move (this move) is not fair.

As for the knicks - I wish people would get off the salary cap situation.  I mean - many of us acknowledge it was horrendous before IT came on board.  While I am not saying he has done a masterful job - year over year - he has done a better job than Mullin, Aige, Bird, McHale to name a few.  This reminds me of the Harrington/Jackson for Dunleavy/Murphy deal.  A deal that appears to make no real basketball sense. Mullin should have been fired after dumping ridiculous money on Adonal Foyle, Duneavy and Murphy!!

I still think that the Knicks will make the playoffs - hey thats why I am a fan :).  People are going to nitpick about Jefferson vs Curry, oston&#039;s draft picks versus Knicks, and the quality of their &#039;young talent compared to the knicks.  But I don&#039;t think - any of the talent (other than Jefferson) had any sway in the deal.  Ultimately they did not want to lose KG for nothing next year when he could opt out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sure -like myself &#8211; a lot of guys are puzzled with HOW exactly Danny Ainge pulled this off.  In fact when the news first came out I refused to believe it -until I actually saw KG at the press conference.  In my mind &#8211; the answer is K. McHale and Glenn Taylor.  Even KG mentioned he changed his mind after talking to Taylor.   When the OWNER of the team comes to you and says your holding back the franchise (which you put on YOUR back for 12 years) &#8211; it&#8217;s time to go &#8211; even if it is hell (Boston).</p>
<p>Basically &#8211; your talking about trading 3 number one draft picks (including Jefferson), two guys who can be cut soon and Theo Ratliff (11 million dollar expiring contract), and cash considerations.  In addition, the picks make no sense to me &#8211; since with this trade (Boston) will never ever pick in the top 10 for the next 3 years &#8211; so why !?!??!  </p>
<p>I am sure that the knicks,lakers, bulls and Phoenix (who gave away 3 picks) -all had deals on the table &#8211; but the celtic connection is what what got it done &#8211; not necessarily the best deal.  I am pretty sure that McHale is done and knows it and did this deal so he can have a job with the celtics at some point.</p>
<p>I am more than disappointed as are a lot of players, teams and fans all across the country.  I doubt the addition of Ray Allen did &#8216;anything&#8217; to convince KG &#8211; rather as i stated earlier it was Taylor &#8211; who basically said &#8211; your going to HAVE to go- since Kobe is the only player in the league whose contract actually says he has approval of trades &#8211; where has KG has a trade kicker.</p>
<p>Also &#8211; I have heard no news on the contract extension &#8211; and looking at hoopshype &#8211; doesn&#8217;t really clarify the situation &#8211; anyone having more details on the financial aspect- I see him being paid 23-25 mill for 3 years(?) and then it goes down to 16-18M- not sure if thats the extension?  But I think KG would have gotten more on the open market next year.</p>
<p>Anyway &#8211; it sucks that a complete buffoon like Ainge gets bailed out.  But hey &#8211; we see that in corporate america -all the time.</p>
<p>As for comparing the knicks to the celtics and blamimg management &#8211; whether it is IT or for other teams Mullin/ Paxson/ Kerr etc etc &#8211; I don&#8217;t think anyone saw this deal coming and there is more to this (behind the scenes).  So I think comparing or berating IT for not doing a move (this move) is not fair.</p>
<p>As for the knicks &#8211; I wish people would get off the salary cap situation.  I mean &#8211; many of us acknowledge it was horrendous before IT came on board.  While I am not saying he has done a masterful job &#8211; year over year &#8211; he has done a better job than Mullin, Aige, Bird, McHale to name a few.  This reminds me of the Harrington/Jackson for Dunleavy/Murphy deal.  A deal that appears to make no real basketball sense. Mullin should have been fired after dumping ridiculous money on Adonal Foyle, Duneavy and Murphy!!</p>
<p>I still think that the Knicks will make the playoffs &#8211; hey thats why I am a fan :).  People are going to nitpick about Jefferson vs Curry, oston&#8217;s draft picks versus Knicks, and the quality of their &#8216;young talent compared to the knicks.  But I don&#8217;t think &#8211; any of the talent (other than Jefferson) had any sway in the deal.  Ultimately they did not want to lose KG for nothing next year when he could opt out.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike K. (KnickerBlogger)</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 20:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Owen, trying to give me homework? I&#039;ll do what my Math professors in college would do when they were stumped by something. &quot;I&#039;ll leave that as an exercise for the students.&quot;

Great fucking discussion guys. Soon people are going to stop coming here for the writing and just go to the comment section. That is if they aren&#039;t already doing it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Owen, trying to give me homework? I&#8217;ll do what my Math professors in college would do when they were stumped by something. &#8220;I&#8217;ll leave that as an exercise for the students.&#8221;</p>
<p>Great fucking discussion guys. Soon people are going to stop coming here for the writing and just go to the comment section. That is if they aren&#8217;t already doing it.</p>
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