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You guys are a little nuts. Yes, Larry is putting in things to make the knicks a better team. And, yes, they are all having some trouble with it, particularly Marbury.

But this is not Larry’s fault. It is the fault of all the crappy coaches Dolan has trotted out since JVG. Larry is being forced to unteach all of the bad habits that have settled in over the last 3 years.

And, to be honest, if given the choice between cleaning house and bringing in LB guys who know how to win, and getting some “other coach” who adjusts to his players and their strength, then I say start shipping players tomorrow. We have a coach who is a proven winner and a proven builder of teams from scratch, and a roster of headcases and losers who have never won anything. Which would you rather do?

And, to reply to the other dave :), I think you misunderstand me when you compare sweet pea to Marbury. I am not saying his numbers don’t add up to the elite scorers. I am saying he is one of the most overhyped and overrated players. Sweet pea doesn’t compare, he was never overrated. Marbury has never won, at the college or pro level. I doubt he ever will. He is ill suited to the position he plays, and doesn’t seem to grasp the little things it takes for an NBA team to win basketball games.

I don’t have patience when it’s obvious it isn’t working. Losing and losing and losing can ruin the players on the team, and the Knicks need to win, RIGHT NOW. Just look how Steph has turned into a complete headcase this season. He can’t even hit a clutch freethrow. He’s on edge. He’s trying his best. Yet, he’s performing well below his abilities.

LB is a great coach, but he’s not suited for this sort of rebuilding effort. I have a feeling I might be changing my tune 2-3 years from now, but why would I want to watch 2-3 years worth of blowout losses and bad trades? The Knicks need a coach who can adjust to his players, because the players obviously can’t adjust to Larry.

“FI-RE LAR-RY!”

1. QRich got hot in the first quarter…rode the bench for the rest of the half…

2. Malik Rose got SIXTEEN minutes…and he took eight shots! Malik Rose! If Malik Rose never walked on the Garden floor again, I wouldn’t object. Don’t even get me started about Qyntel Woods.

3. Stephon took 10 shots. Stephon Marbury does not take 10 shots by his own rules.

Obviously, the players themselves are struggling, but the root of the problem is the man on the sideline. I don’t understand the idea of players “adjusting to his offense”. Why doesn’t he adjust his offense to the players?

The one thing you’ve gotta like about the guy…

“FI-RE LAR-RY” is gonna have a nice ring to it.

I think New York could be involved in such a deal and potentially wind up with something valuable.

I don’t think we have the chips to make the Pacers budge anyway and definitely we don’t want to give up Frye, so its probably a moot point.

Hell, that’s the basic problem in Indiana. Though Artest may be crazy he isn’t dumb. He knows the franchise wants O’Neal to be its best player and leader but right now that mantle clearly belongs to Artest. He knows that’s a problem not likely to get better so he asked out.

Sprewell is different altogether; he has a hostile temper problem. When he wasn’t personally riled he was a model citizen in New York.

Dave (the other Dave) – I think Marbury’s career numbers would rate him as a premier (if not elite) offensive player in the NBA. Rafer Alston and Sweet Pea Daniels are playground legends whose games never translated. The big issue for him is that the offense appears to be moving away from the screen-roll, his most effective play. He’s being asked to think the game, recognize defenses and create for others. And he’s struggling like hell. He’s also beginning to show more wear and tear physically. I think he’s impossible to move.