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Wednesday, November 26, 2014

Around the NBA for 1/26/09

Some interesting stories out there. Let’s take a look!

- Michael Redd is out for the season. This obviously is a major blow to the Bucks, although they beat the Knicks pretty easily without Redd. In any event, it is definitely helpful for the Knicks if they want to make the playoffs, as the Bucks are currently the #8 seed (the Knicks are two games back) with only the Nets standing between the Knicks and the Bucks.

- In a horrific piece of news, Eddy Curry’s ex-girlfriend (and mother of his 3-year-old son) was murdered, along with her 9-month-old daughter. Curry’s son was left unharmed. The police are on the look out for her ex-boyfriend, who she had a restraining order against. Just sickening, and all our condolences out to Curry and the woman’s family.

- Stephon Marbury says that the Celtics have given him a firm commitment that they would sign him if he was released by the Knicks. Things must be getting kinda desperate in Beantown. They’re “only” on pace to win 60 games right now.

Some choice quotes from the guard:

“The question to be asked to the Knicks is: Are they fearful for me playing for another Eastern Conference team? My thing is, they shouldn’t be fearful. They’re trying to get under the cap for 2010. They shouldn’t be worried about me.”

“You had guys saying I was a distraction, I’m a cancer. If I’m all those things, wouldn’t you want me to go to another team?”

“It shouldn’t matter that I go to Boston if you’re the eighth seed and Boston is in the front. It can’t be about money. The Knicks got plenty of it. It’s got to be personal. If it’s personal, then how is business being done there?”

- The Grizzlies introduced Lionel Hollins as their new head coach. What an absolutely bizarre hiring. The guy had been their interim head coach twice, so what has he done as a Bucks assistant coach that made him look good enough to get the official job now? Why sign a new coach like Hollins period when you could just have Johnny Davis be the interim coach? They’ve already established that they were hoping to get a notable coach (Avery Johnson) and to be honest, it’s not like the Grizzlies job does not have some allure to it. A lot of good young players and zero expectations. So why not just play out the string and then try to nab a high-profile coach this off season? At least you’d get the chance to interview the top up and coming assistant coaches from other teams. Instead, you’re committing to Lionel Huggins? Bizarre.

- Speaking of the Grizzlies, think there’s any chance Marc Iavaroni gets hired by the Knicks before next year? I’d imagine he’s almost certainly going to be hired next season, but I wonder if they’ll nab him before then.

- Chris Paul apparently got over a million votes in just the last week of the voting to make up ground on the “undeserving” Tracy McGrady. Some pundits are calling “fix!” What do you folks think?

- I’ve really been enjoying John Hollinger’s PER Diem daily columns, but man, I don’t get his piece the other day on the Pistons. He acts surprised that the Pistons aren’t doing so well. I had always thought that the AI/Billups trade was specifically designed to not make the team better, but rather to clear out cap space (and give Stuckey a starting job). So is it some great surprise that the team is not doing as well? That was not a “2008-09″ trade there.

13 comments on “Around the NBA for 1/26/09

  1. 2010

    Isn’t that tampering with the Celtics/Marbury? Stephon is still under contract with the Knicks, and I thought other teams aren’t allowed to talk about players on other teams?

    I think this is a special exception because steph doesnt have an agent. i think what happened (if it is true) is that the celtics gave a conformation through the players association lawyer who is acting as an agent/go between.

    why would the knicks want to get rid of him yet? he hasnt been a head ache for months. they can keep him for a trade chip for a few more weeks and then buy him out after the date he could play in the playoffs. steph would want to take less then because he will have to prove he can still play and he hasnt played in over a year.

  2. Marc R
    Isn’t that tampering with the Celtics/Marbury? Stephon is still under contract with the Knicks, and I thought other teams aren’t allowed to talk about players on other teams?

    I think this is a special exception because steph doesnt have an agent. i think what happened (if it is true) is that the celtics gave a conformation through the players association lawyer who is acting as an agent/go between.
    why would the knicks want to get rid of him yet? he hasnt been a head ache for months. they can keep him for a trade chip for a few more weeks and then buy him out after the date he could play in the playoffs. steph would want to take less then because he will have to prove he can still play and he hasnt played in over a year.

    I think the Knicks granted Marbury permission to talk to other teams a while ago. They were hoping that he could get a big(ish) contract and subtract that money from a buyout.

    On the topic of buyouts, does anybody know if the following scenario is legal? Curry is guaranteed for this year and has options for the following two years. I think the total salary for the three years is around $30MM. Could the Knicks just buy him out of his contract now for $30MM, have Curry not pick up those two option years (since he won’t be on the team anymore, of course), and not have him count on the cap for the next two years?

    There is at least some logic to this since if Curry retired after this year his salary would not be on the Knicks’ cap for the next two but the Knicks would be entitled to hire him for the front office and pay him whatever they wanted.

    The League may be skeptical, but everybody wins and this isn’t the most common scenario. Most players, I believe, don’t have player options at the end of their contracts (though many do).

    Needless to say, this would be great. If it does work, does anybody know if Jeffries has player options for the last year of his contract?

  3. Jcon

    Isn’t that tampering with the Celtics/Marbury? Stephon is still under contract with the Knicks, and I thought other teams aren’t allowed to talk about players on other teams?

    I don’t believe he has an offer verbal or otherwise. If he did he would be knocking down Walsh’s door and he’s not. He’s just trying to stir stuff up.

  4. Marc R

    “does anybody know if the following scenario is legal?”
    It’s not.

    Thanks. I read some FAQ about the Collective Bargaining Agreement and didn’t see any prohibition on it so I was looking for someone who had knowledge or experience to opine on the scenario.

  5. timmayyy

    Why would Curry retire?

    Why can’t we get Jerome James to retire?
    He’s clearly far less able to contribute than Darius Miles.
    2 games last season.
    2 games this season.
    If a doctor could say in April ’08 that Darius Miles need to retire, I think the Knicks should hire him to say the same thing about Big Snacks.

    Just a thought.

  6. Z
    “does anybody know if the following scenario is legal?”
    It’s not.

    Thanks. I read some FAQ about the Collective Bargaining Agreement and didn’t see any prohibition on it so I was looking for someone who had knowledge or experience to opine on the scenario.

    The cap is designed especially to prevent this kind of behavior. If teams could buy out players and erase the years on their contracts, they may as well not have the salary cap in place at all. The rich teams would pay for their unwanted players to disappear.

    Specifically, there is a time period for when players can opt out. They can’t do it before July 1st (and players can’t opt out of their 2011 contract on July 1st 2009). There is language in the CBA dictating how teams can only buy out players with option years up to 50% of their option year salary (meaning Curry would have to take a $15 million pay cut if he agreed to a buyout today).

    So technically we can pay Eddy to opt out, but it would have to be a verbal agreement, and we’d have to pay his $30 million into a Swiss bank. If we are caught, we’d be punished worse than the T-Wolves were for their Joe Smith shenanigans…

    Which actually may not be such a bad risk to take.

  7. blueandorange

    I don’t feel that Lee was given fair consideration for this all star game. Yes, his team is under .500, but should that really mean so much when it comes to the all stars? They are saying that one factor may be the idea that his success is just a by-product of this new “system” and that it isn’t really him. Anyone who has been watching the Knicks for the past three years would know this is really him; maybe he’s just getting more publicity this year because of the new coach. There’s always next year, I guess.

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