Comments on: And What Rough Beast, Its Hour Come Round at Last, Slouches Towards Bethlehem to be Born?

By: Spree8nyk8

Spree8nyk8 — Mon, 12 Jul 2010 19:06:08 +0000

@danvt

if Peyton Manning leaves the colts and the owner writes the same letter do you think Jesse Jackson says one word?

No, which is why Jesse Jackson is a tool.

By: Ted Nelson

Ted Nelson — Mon, 12 Jul 2010 17:08:23 +0000

I thought Gilbert looked unprofessional for writing that letter; however, he has to try to use the last bit of LeBron exposure to market the team… They could/should still be a playoff team and need to keep fans excited without LeBron. I don’t know if his wording of the letter was the best way to do that, but he needed to use the publicity somehow.
(I also tend to agree with the accusations made about not showing up in the playoffs and only caring about himself…)

I thought Jesse Jackson was off base turning this into a racial thing.

@68 Agreed. I like what Walsh has done. I’m not a Felton fan, but on the whole I think he’s done an excellent job.

@61 I don’t think Vinnie Johnson is out of Toney’s league. Toney is an excellent player. If he improves on his rookie season he can be one of the top 6th men in the NBA.
I think Toney could actually be a lot better than Vinnie Johnson overall. Johnson played in a different era, but had a career TS% of .506 on a usage of 22.2 and an ast% of 19.3…
Douglas is a very efficient scorer and already had an ast% close to Johnson’s. Johnson benefited from playing on some very good teams… Calling him the most effective bench player on a Championship team isn’t that much better than saying that about Glen Davis…

By: danvt

danvt — Mon, 12 Jul 2010 12:54:51 +0000

“if James does the normal thing and just leaves quietly, I don’t think that they have a leg to stand on. But hen you make a public spectacle out of the situation and embarrass your city like that, then you deserve to be called an asshole.”

OK. I agree that “The Decision” was a fiasco. Also, LeBron never called Gilbert personally, which is astonishing, but he doesn’t make it clear, in his letter, that it was about the way LeBron handled it. It really seems like Gilbert was blaming James for leaving. I don’t think Jesse Jackson was doing anything more than pointing out the same flaws in Gilbert’s language as I am. He points out that it does have racial implications, though I doubt he considers Gilbert a racist. Jackson points out that it is a dangerous letter and gets people riled up because over it’s key unfair assertion, namely that LeBron leaving in and of it’s self is an act of betrayal.

By: Spree8nyk8

Spree8nyk8 — Mon, 12 Jul 2010 06:08:39 +0000

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=broussard_chris&page=gilbertlbj-100709

On Friday, Gilbert, the owner of Fathead, dropped the price of James fatheads from $99.99 to $17.41. Benedict Arnold was born in 1741.

By: massive

massive — Mon, 12 Jul 2010 04:37:02 +0000

According to TKB (who’s going according to David Aldridge), the trade exception they got for sign and trading Stat helped them get Hedo Turkoglu, sending Toronto Leandro Barbosa.

By: Robert Silverman

Robert Silverman — Mon, 12 Jul 2010 04:23:52 +0000

FYI – Hahn says Mozgov’s contract is non-guaranteed after the first year. In which case, that’s a great deal. If he shows something, you’ve got a young seven footer. If not, they get the cap space back

I dunno about y’all, but I think Walsh has done an excellent job this off-season executing plan D

By: massive

massive — Mon, 12 Jul 2010 03:15:37 +0000

I don’t know, miss the playoffs? Go bankrupt? Other than that, nothing else sticks out except for never saying Paul was untouchable.

By: Loathing

Loathing — Mon, 12 Jul 2010 03:04:14 +0000

yeah, but what did the Hornets do to make everyone blow it out of proportion?

By: massive

massive — Mon, 12 Jul 2010 03:00:20 +0000

Neither is Chris Paul, but they’re both free agents in 2012, right?

By: Spree8nyk8

Spree8nyk8 — Mon, 12 Jul 2010 02:58:06 +0000

@58

What did he say that I’d be against? I do agree that James hosting the special was callous, I also believe that he quit during the Boston series.

I mean in the conversations about this I’ve had with people I’ve basically said this. Lebron was an asshole to cleveland and this guy called him an asshole. What’s wrong with that?

Whether I think he’s right or wrong about what he said I don’t see how anyone could say it was racially motivated which is what Jesse Jackson is trying to stir up.

I think that some of the things Gilbert said was bc of hurt feelings. But I can’t fault him for that. I mean if James does the normal thing and just leaves quietly, I don’t think that they have a leg to stand on. But hen you make a public spectacle out of the situation and embarrass your city like that, then you deserve to be called an asshole.