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		<title>By: bob cook</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob cook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2012 11:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Regarding D&#039;Antoni, as a fan, I wanted him to be a genius; I wanted speedball to be some sort of magic trick that other coaches couldn&#039;t comprehend; I wanted him to be a charismatic leader for the players.  It&#039;s not possible for me to know if his way of running the offense/defense was better, in retrospect, than a more conventional approach but I did notice one thing that nagged me over the last few years.  When he would be miked on the bench, telling the players what to do, he always seemed cursory and a bit detached.  An anti Hubie Brown if you will.  And when he&#039;d be miked in the dressing room, giving the players last tactical points and a send off, his comments, again, seemed simplistic and emotionally flat.  This worried me a bit.  Some of the players said they loved him but this didn&#039;t entirely convince me as players often say that about their coach so long as the coach has power over them.  I remember (switching to football) when Bill Parcells quit the Giants and was replaced by Ray Handly (a moron), Amani Toomer said how much better then new coach was than that Parcells guy.
Anyone else notice this about D&#039;Antoni?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding D&#8217;Antoni, as a fan, I wanted him to be a genius; I wanted speedball to be some sort of magic trick that other coaches couldn&#8217;t comprehend; I wanted him to be a charismatic leader for the players.  It&#8217;s not possible for me to know if his way of running the offense/defense was better, in retrospect, than a more conventional approach but I did notice one thing that nagged me over the last few years.  When he would be miked on the bench, telling the players what to do, he always seemed cursory and a bit detached.  An anti Hubie Brown if you will.  And when he&#8217;d be miked in the dressing room, giving the players last tactical points and a send off, his comments, again, seemed simplistic and emotionally flat.  This worried me a bit.  Some of the players said they loved him but this didn&#8217;t entirely convince me as players often say that about their coach so long as the coach has power over them.  I remember (switching to football) when Bill Parcells quit the Giants and was replaced by Ray Handly (a moron), Amani Toomer said how much better then new coach was than that Parcells guy.<br />
Anyone else notice this about D&#8217;Antoni?</p>
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		<title>By: David Crockett</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/a-role-for-luck/#comment-374153</link>
		<dc:creator>David Crockett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2012 01:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-373981&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-373981&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;jon&#032;abbey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: 
but it’s silly to cite the Pythagorean record without mentioning that we’ve faced the third weakest schedule in the league so far, even after this recent tough stretch.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Simple Rating System, which accounts for schedule strength, tells the same basic story. The play has been not surprisingly volatile, but even with that, more mediocre than bad. With that, the Knicks can still make something out of this season.

I&#039;m not taking up for D&#039;Antoni. If, as reports suggest, he &quot;politely suggested&quot; trading Anthony for another point guard, he was basically asking to leave.]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-373981" rel="nofollow">jon&#32;abbey</a></strong>:<br />
but it’s silly to cite the Pythagorean record without mentioning that we’ve faced the third weakest schedule in the league so far, even after this recent tough stretch.
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<p>Simple Rating System, which accounts for schedule strength, tells the same basic story. The play has been not surprisingly volatile, but even with that, more mediocre than bad. With that, the Knicks can still make something out of this season.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not taking up for D&#8217;Antoni. If, as reports suggest, he &#8220;politely suggested&#8221; trading Anthony for another point guard, he was basically asking to leave.</p>
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		<title>By: sisterray</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/a-role-for-luck/#comment-374125</link>
		<dc:creator>sisterray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2012 23:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pythagorean wins...
I was always sympathetic to D&#039;Antoni (and I certainly take his &quot;side&quot; over Melo&#039;s), but don&#039;t you feel like he was always a little too theoretical? A little too &quot;big picture&quot;? A little too distant from the action?

Part of what makes basketball — really, any sport — so gripping is that the details of the particular situation really matter; an entire season or even era can depend on a single instant.

D’Antoni never seemed to appreciate that. He seemed to be more interested in the big picture and getting the system working than he was in the dirty details of particular plays or even particular games: when to call time-out, what lineup is needed in order to solve some particular problem that&#039;s killing you, when to call a set play.

In the first few seasons it often seemed like he thought of himself as just the team’s custodian, waiting for better days when the mess was finally cleaned up and a new team would move in and make things happen.

When it finally came time to transition to Phase II, though, there was no real plan as to how to make that happen. The team was assembled at the last minute, they weren’t a natural fit for him or one another, the lockout limited training camp and practice, and new parts kept on getting added while others proved to be irreparably broken. Rather than seize control of those things that really could be fixed or at least improved upon, he fell into the old habit of waiting for better days. Patience gave way to a frustrated messianism, and the team started falling apart.

I wonder what would have happened if D&#039;Antoni had trusted less in things working out over time and gotten his hands dirty on a more regular basis, demanding that the team win right now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pythagorean wins&#8230;<br />
I was always sympathetic to D&#8217;Antoni (and I certainly take his &#8220;side&#8221; over Melo&#8217;s), but don&#8217;t you feel like he was always a little too theoretical? A little too &#8220;big picture&#8221;? A little too distant from the action?</p>
<p>Part of what makes basketball — really, any sport — so gripping is that the details of the particular situation really matter; an entire season or even era can depend on a single instant.</p>
<p>D’Antoni never seemed to appreciate that. He seemed to be more interested in the big picture and getting the system working than he was in the dirty details of particular plays or even particular games: when to call time-out, what lineup is needed in order to solve some particular problem that&#8217;s killing you, when to call a set play.</p>
<p>In the first few seasons it often seemed like he thought of himself as just the team’s custodian, waiting for better days when the mess was finally cleaned up and a new team would move in and make things happen.</p>
<p>When it finally came time to transition to Phase II, though, there was no real plan as to how to make that happen. The team was assembled at the last minute, they weren’t a natural fit for him or one another, the lockout limited training camp and practice, and new parts kept on getting added while others proved to be irreparably broken. Rather than seize control of those things that really could be fixed or at least improved upon, he fell into the old habit of waiting for better days. Patience gave way to a frustrated messianism, and the team started falling apart.</p>
<p>I wonder what would have happened if D&#8217;Antoni had trusted less in things working out over time and gotten his hands dirty on a more regular basis, demanding that the team win right now.</p>
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		<title>By: max fisher-cohen</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/a-role-for-luck/#comment-374103</link>
		<dc:creator>max fisher-cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2012 21:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Z, don&#039;t forget Jared Jeffries!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Z, don&#8217;t forget Jared Jeffries!</p>
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		<title>By: Z</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/a-role-for-luck/#comment-374020</link>
		<dc:creator>Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2012 19:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-373991&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-373991&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Caleb&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: 

On the optimist’s side, the Knicks roster is at its strong point right now… with Lin and Davis, plus Melo getting healthy while the only player we’ve lost is Bill Walker.


&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That was the case 6 losses ago, though, too.]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-373991" rel="nofollow">Caleb</a></strong>: </p>
<p>On the optimist’s side, the Knicks roster is at its strong point right now… with Lin and Davis, plus Melo getting healthy while the only player we’ve lost is Bill Walker.</p>
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<p>That was the case 6 losses ago, though, too.</p>
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		<title>By: bluemax</title>
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		<dc:creator>bluemax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2012 19:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frankly our chances of making the plyoffs are not very good if you compare the bucks schedule to ours.

they have 23 games left  just as we do .They play 9 playoff teams we play 13 play off teams. they have the 2-0 record advantage against us. and they just added Monta Ellis.

Fat ass Melo better show he is worth what the knicks payed for him or we are toast!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly our chances of making the plyoffs are not very good if you compare the bucks schedule to ours.</p>
<p>they have 23 games left  just as we do .They play 9 playoff teams we play 13 play off teams. they have the 2-0 record advantage against us. and they just added Monta Ellis.</p>
<p>Fat ass Melo better show he is worth what the knicks payed for him or we are toast!</p>
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		<title>By: Caleb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caleb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2012 18:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-373981&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;jon&#032;abbey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: 
overall stats are even more worthless than usual this year for NY, with us now working on our 4th team in 43 games (pre-Lin, Lin, Melo and Amare back, new coach), but it’s silly to cite the Pythagorean record without mentioning that we’ve faced the third weakest schedule in the league so far, even after this recent tough stretch.


&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s two separate issues - 18-24 against the worst schedule int he league (or now, 3rd worst) is even more disgraceful than 22-21 against the 3rd worst schedule. 

But you are right to point out we really dug ourselves a hole, not winning winnable games. 

On the optimist&#039;s side, the Knicks roster is at its strong point right now... with Lin and Davis, plus Melo getting healthy while the only player we&#039;ve lost is Bill Walker.]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-373981" rel="nofollow">jon&#32;abbey</a></strong>:<br />
overall stats are even more worthless than usual this year for NY, with us now working on our 4th team in 43 games (pre-Lin, Lin, Melo and Amare back, new coach), but it’s silly to cite the Pythagorean record without mentioning that we’ve faced the third weakest schedule in the league so far, even after this recent tough stretch.</p>
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<p>It&#8217;s two separate issues &#8211; 18-24 against the worst schedule int he league (or now, 3rd worst) is even more disgraceful than 22-21 against the 3rd worst schedule. </p>
<p>But you are right to point out we really dug ourselves a hole, not winning winnable games. </p>
<p>On the optimist&#8217;s side, the Knicks roster is at its strong point right now&#8230; with Lin and Davis, plus Melo getting healthy while the only player we&#8217;ve lost is Bill Walker.</p>
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		<title>By: Cousyfan</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/a-role-for-luck/#comment-373983</link>
		<dc:creator>Cousyfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2012 18:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is a bit of information which may interest you people.
Harvard, Yale and Princeton do not give sports scholarships, and their players must satisfy their minimum SAT scores.
In about two hours Harvard will be on TNT tv.
Harvard has 6&#039;8&quot; SF who is graduating this year. His name is Keith Wright, and his number is 44.
Being a Harvard man myself, and a Chinese, of course I am a Lin fan. But I really wonder which team is going to draft Keith Wright.
Would it be nice for Lin and Wright get together as team mates, again?

Cheers, Stanley Chang]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a bit of information which may interest you people.<br />
Harvard, Yale and Princeton do not give sports scholarships, and their players must satisfy their minimum SAT scores.<br />
In about two hours Harvard will be on TNT tv.<br />
Harvard has 6&#8217;8&#8243; SF who is graduating this year. His name is Keith Wright, and his number is 44.<br />
Being a Harvard man myself, and a Chinese, of course I am a Lin fan. But I really wonder which team is going to draft Keith Wright.<br />
Would it be nice for Lin and Wright get together as team mates, again?</p>
<p>Cheers, Stanley Chang</p>
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		<title>By: ephus</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/a-role-for-luck/#comment-373982</link>
		<dc:creator>ephus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2012 18:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-373977&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-373977&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The&#032;Honorable&#032;Cock&#032;Jowles&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: The Honorable Cock Jowles says:		  
		  	
		  March 15, 2012 at 2:22 pm
		  
It’s called “momentum,” Brian. Didn’t you know that it’s a real thing?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

At the risk of getting into a flame war with THCJ, my thinking is not about momentum -- even if the Knicks won in Boston, they were still going to lose two in Texas -- but rather about the MDA - &#039;Melo dynamic.  If the Knicks had won in Boston, &#039;Melo would have been (correctly) hailed for bailing out the offense in the last three minutes.  I think that makes &#039;Melo less likely to dog it on defense in Milwaukee and otherwise mentally check out of the game.  I think a win in Boston would have led to an honest effort in Milwaukee, and it was effort, not system or talent, that was responsible for that loss.]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-373977" rel="nofollow">The&#032;Honorable&#032;Cock&#032;Jowles</a></strong>: The Honorable Cock Jowles says:		  </p>
<p>		  March 15, 2012 at 2:22 pm</p>
<p>It’s called “momentum,” Brian. Didn’t you know that it’s a real thing?</p></blockquote>
<p>At the risk of getting into a flame war with THCJ, my thinking is not about momentum &#8212; even if the Knicks won in Boston, they were still going to lose two in Texas &#8212; but rather about the MDA &#8211; &#8216;Melo dynamic.  If the Knicks had won in Boston, &#8216;Melo would have been (correctly) hailed for bailing out the offense in the last three minutes.  I think that makes &#8216;Melo less likely to dog it on defense in Milwaukee and otherwise mentally check out of the game.  I think a win in Boston would have led to an honest effort in Milwaukee, and it was effort, not system or talent, that was responsible for that loss.</p>
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		<title>By: jon abbey</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2012 18:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[overall stats are even more worthless than usual this year for NY, with us now working on our 4th team in 43 games (pre-Lin, Lin, Melo and Amare back, new coach), but it&#039;s silly to cite the Pythagorean record without mentioning that we&#039;ve faced the third weakest schedule in the league so far, even after this recent tough stretch.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>overall stats are even more worthless than usual this year for NY, with us now working on our 4th team in 43 games (pre-Lin, Lin, Melo and Amare back, new coach), but it&#8217;s silly to cite the Pythagorean record without mentioning that we&#8217;ve faced the third weakest schedule in the league so far, even after this recent tough stretch.</p>
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