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Nate Robinson hits a 3 at the buzzer to save them from the Knicks lowest scoring game in teh shot clock era, and also to become the only scorer for NY in double digits.
i don’t know why anybody wants to see the young guys, everyone on this team sucks, remember they were all picked by isiah. i think it is universally accepted that isiah is the worst GM in the history of organized sport, but tonight i think we all see that he is the worst coach in nba history.
Oh Em Gee
I was at my mother’s birthday dinner, we looked at the score at the end, its 100-51, I am like, must be a misprint, that isn’t possible. Then I just started laughing…
KB – The above, classic….
OK so I am sitting at home listening to A Tribe Called Quests’ old stuff from the Low End Theory, just chilling and enjoying life. I then check ESPN box scores and I see the score. I rub my eyes in disbelief. I am like what the hell? I told my friend back in NY, that I hope IT gets hit in the head with some ham hock although he deserves much more.
Oh, I could only reminisce of the days of ’93 hip hop was live and the Knicks were my team. Do they really want me to be a Brooklyn Nets fan in 2 years bc I am getting really tempted.
wow, that was amazing. Marv could tell from ten seconds in, he started ripping NY when the game was still scoreless. historically significant game for so many reasons, NY’s only appearance on national TV this year.
maybe the most remarkable thing in an almost surreal night is that there was somehow a game in recent history that was 20 points wider, Indiana over Portland 124-59 in 1998 (if anyone can dig up a box, I’d like to see this).
Wizzle, both the new Wu-Tang and Ghostface records leaked today, local hip-hop had a much better day than our heroes.
I’ve figured it out. I’m convinced James Dolan is allowing Isiah Thomas to stick around just for the “lulz.” Dolan’s just a giant New York Knicks fan troll.
Citing “gross incompetence,” commissioner David Stern suspended the New York Knickerbockers for the remainder of the 2007-08 season, replacing them with the Fort Wayne Mad Ants of the NBA’s Development League.
woah woah hold it up a sec maybe firing isiah isnt the problem!
did none of you see the team the first 2 games
they looked good, still needed some fine adjustment but..
they take a step back
fire him keep isiah
its not his fault marbury is uncoachable
I disagree. Having one man as both GM and coach with his track and current records is a mixture for disaster. Unfortunately, “Jimmy Boy” Dolan is the real problem and until he is gone, the knicks will the laughing stock of sports, much less the NBA.
fire him keep isiah
How about “fire Marbury, fire Isiah.”
That’s more like it.
just sat there, from beginning to end, in absolute horror, didn;t even know what happened.
I want that Beasley kid from K State. Bad.
Sorry Wizzle, but Popovich was the Spurs GM and coach from 98 up until last year when he handed the GM position to Buford. The result….. 4 championships. Isiah just sucks at both.
Portland actually won 46 games that season too.
I found myself deeply sad watching this game from the early going. Just knowing that one year ago, Boston’s situation seemed even more bleak than New York’s. Questionable top gun in Pierce and a bunch of young kids, none of whom seemed like legit stars (Al Jefferson might be an all star but will never be a superstar), GM with atrocious track record in Danny Ainge. They had a worse record than us. And now they look like reasonably good bets to win the east.
I’m intensely jealous. I have a hard time rooting against Boston because I love KG and the way he approaches the game with fire and desire every night, the way he makes those around him better. And I’d LOVE to see him square off against Duncan in the Finals. But it’s frickin BOSTON. They were nearly as incompetent as we were. And they got lucky NOT winning the Oden / Durant lottery! Imagine that! The 5 pick forced them into the desperation Allen move, questionable by itself, but somehow that put them in position for Garnett. And when you’ve got 3 like that, suddenly everything else falls into place. Big Baby looks like a winner. Guys like House and Posey know how to be effective role players. Perkins and Rondo are serviceable. But damn, those guys can play, on both ends.
I just wish it would be the Knicks who would get lucky. But our utterly incompetent owner is too disgustingly stubborn to admit his own mistake in hiring Isiah, who can’t admit his own critical errors in bringing in Stephon and Eddy (and Jamal and probably Zach and how could I forget about the two JJs??).
So the blowout was sort of entertaining in a “I can’t believe they can get beat this badly on national TV” way. But deeply sad. I am so attached to The Knicks brand, I just can’t wait for them to be good again. I can root for other teams but it will never be as satisfying.
Isiah has to go. And so does Stephon. And they need to bring somebody in to exercise the nuclear option on the squad, bring in only expiring contracts, waive guys they can’t trade, and start over with the lottery pick they’re about to find themselves with in 2008.
The Knicks are a bunch of losers and coached by a loser.
“i don?t know why anybody wants to see the young guys, everyone on this team sucks, remember they were all picked by isiah. i think it is universally accepted that isiah is the worst GM in the history of organized sport, but tonight i think we all see that he is the worst coach in nba history.”
I know, Isiah has an eye for “talent”, doesn’t he? He is the greatest talent evaluator of all time and a fine coach, too.
I’ve seen better products floating in a toilet!
It will take a long time to undo this disaster.
We, as fans and soon to be former fans, need to get on Dolan more. The incompetence starts at the top and then infects the rest of the organization. Dolan is a clown. He is a disgrace and is a poster child for the reason you don’t let retarded family members in the business. His dad (I think it was daddy) made all the money with cablevision in Long Island and now has decided to let that fat idiot Jimmy Boy ruin a once respected franchise. I wonder if the NBA can force the family to sell the team based on benefit to the league. The Knicks are the single most visible franchise, in the basketball version of Mecca, and every team in the league would gain from having a well run franchise in New York. Dolan must go.
There is one solution for the Knicks to save their season and even their franchise. The following plan is a surefire blueprint to restore the Knicks to the rightful place back among the NBA elite:
-Dolan should have an “honorary coach of the Knicks” contest in which some lucky fan gets to be coach of the Knicks. This will help to generate fan interest in the Knicks.
-Like the Patrick Ewing lottery, rig the contest and have the winner be some NYC limo driver who happens to be a fanatical Knick fan.
-Fire Isiah, and hire this limo driver/contest winner as the new coach of the Knicks.
-Through fiestiness and gumption, this new coach will take this bunch of overpaid prima donnas and turn their season around.
-The city of New York and Knicks fans everywhere rejoice.
If it succeeds, this plan is so great that Hollywood might even might a film about the Knicks.
If it succeeds, this plan is so great that Hollywood might even might a film about the Knicks. ;)
How embarrasing for the New York Stinks…er, Knicks.
i give up. seriously. continuing to root for the knicks is like staying in an abusive relationship.
Tastycakes- I feel your pain. One of my best friends from college is a Celts fan and we have had an intense rivalry for years. This year is even harder to take than the Walker/Pierce years because the Knicks are such a total joke. They have gone from bad to great and we have gone from bad to worse.
Yeah…Reggie Miller said it best – this team is a complete JOKE from the ownership to the GM to the coach to the players. The GM and coach is completely incompetent – the roster is pathetically constructed with me-first players with ridiculously bloated contracts and who have a severe aversion to playing any semblance of defense. Is it so hard to want to see your team give it their all, win or lose. FIRE ISIAH, FIRE DOLAN, FIRE THE ENTIRE KNICKS TEAM. WHAT A FREAKING JOKE…
About the game, Mike K’s post said it all.
But I want to go at this line of thinking:
“I hate to break the news to those of you wanting to see the ?young players? starting playing more, but the fact is that the core group of Lee, Balkman, Collins, Nate, Morris, and Chandler really aren?t all that good.”
Not true, and not fair to lump these guys together.
1. Collins – awful
2. Lee – at worst, a pretty good starting power forward. Solid on defense, and even this “bad” season he’s 10th among PFs in rebounding (per-minute) and shooting 50%. And has anyone noticed he’s made more free throws than Zach Randolph, while touching the ball a-zillionth as often? At best, like last year, DL’s not a superstar but he is an all-star level player.
3. Balkman – harder to say, since he’s fighting injuries and is only getting 15 minutes a game. Still – looks a big-time impact defensive player, subjectively but also with the best +/- numbers on the team. And, while his rebound #s are down from last year, they are still the BEST IN THE LEAGUE for any small forward. He’s also a good ballhandler, and while he can’t shoot he never takes bad shots either.
4. Robinson – he’s taken a step back this year, but still shooting better than 40% on threes, and I’m willing to give him an incomplete – he’s not getting minutes, and playing on a bad hammy.
5. Chandler & Morris – who knows? How can you say they can’t play, when we haven’t seen them? Long-term I’m high on Chandler, not so much on Morris – but you build a team with young guys like this, not bringing in vets who have already shown they CAN’T play.
In the past I’ve considered IT a bad GM but decent coach. But at this point, there’s no redemption. Beyond motvating, beyond designing plays, even beyond preparation, the #1 job of a coach is to put the best players on the floor. IT is failing miserably.
Marbury is one thing, since for all his faults we don’t have an NBA-level backup. But it’s totally indefensible to play Curry/Randolph/Crawford/Q big minutes while Lee is a part-timer and Balkman & Nate get garbage time… or for Jeffries & Jones to get minutes, while Chandler & Morris don’t play at all.
This isn’t (just) a move about the future; IT’s rotation is taking a mediocre 35- or 40-win team and making it a 25- or 30-win team.
Like everyone else, I’ve had it.
When remembering massive losses on the road and teams that nonetheless came back, don’t forget this one:
One of the greatest afternoons of my life.
Hey for all the fault that people want to put on Isaiah and Dolan. I think much of the blame has to be put on the players. One thing that can be said about the Knicks and other New York teams is that they will pay money for players. I could tell from the first three minutes of the Nationally Televised Game! that they didn’t come to play. Ultimately some of the blame has to be put on the players. Curry, Steph, Jared Jefferies! I’m not saying that I like the job Dolan and Isaiah are doing but they are not the ones out there on the court. I think the GM and owner should think twice about the players they are going to pay this big money to. The Knicks as we all know have a history of paying players at the end of their superstar prime or with some type of baggage. X McDaniel Rolando Blackman Larry Johnson (loved him because played his heart out even though he was hurt) Eddy Curry Jared Jefferies. One comment on Jared. I was a big fan of his signing for defensive purposes basically put him on the team?s best player Lebron James Paul Pierce etc….. That’s the sole reason they brought him in and he hasn’t played a lick of defense. If I’m Isaiah I don’t let him shoot in practice, shoot around I don’t even let him touch a basketball I make him work on his defense 24/7. I could vent more but I’ll stop for now.
Its not Starburys fault. He is by far the best point guard in the NBA, without a doubt yo!
The best blog KB has written since Isiah Thomas took office – short, simple, self-explain, and straight to the point.
But don’t expect Isiah Thomas to resign. It’s obvious Thomas wants to get fire so he will get the money from his contract.
Also, don’t expect James Dolan to fire Isiah Thomas. Dolan and Thomas are fun buddies and they had a threesome together and Thomas still has the pictures. Maybe throwing another 5 years extension to Thomas will encourage Thomas to do some REAL coaching.
FOR THE TEAM TO QUIT LIKE THEY DID, THERE IS NO EXCUSE. ISIAH SHOULD GO. THE COACH’S JOB IS TO MOTIVATE AND INSTRUCT THE PLAYERS AS WELL AS PROVIDE A STRATEGY FOR SUCCESS. TALENT WISE THE CELTICS ARE NOT THAT FAR AHEAD OF THE KNICKS TO WARRANT SUCH A LOPSIDED DEFEAT. I DONT CARE IF THE KNICKS WIN TONIGHT. IF THEY CANNOT PUT TOGETHER 3 CONSECUTIVE VICTORIES IN THE NEXT 10 GAMES, THEN THE COACH NEED TO GO. PERIOD. IF THERE ARE NO SIGNS OF CONSISTENT GROWTH, HARD WORK AND DEDICATION, CUT ISIAH LOOSE. THIS WIN TWO LOSE SIX, WIN ONE, LOSE EIGHT CRAP WITHOUT EVEN PUTTING FORTH AN EFFORT IS A JOKE.
Starbury is hands down the best point guard in the NBA, maybe top 5 all time. He is a shoe in for the hall of fame. His winning attitude and team first style of play is why he has always been a winner wherever he has played. Its not fair to hate on Starbury, he is the only one on the Knicks that doesn’t suck. If the Knicks had 12 Starburys on their roster they would be the greatest team of all time.
Maybe I’m still bitter over some Knicks fans flaming us Blazer fans over the Randolph trade, but this is hilarious.
Better to have Fry sitting on the bench than Randolph out on the floor, hogging the ball and quitting on defense.
Young guys? Who are you referring to? Most of the Knicks line up are half way through their careers… Perhaps more than that if they continue to play that way.
Was at the game last night and noticed Marbury was absent on the bench through most of the 4th. Rumor was he got hurt. I think that’s nonsense. I think he went off to throw a tantrum. Let’s hope he’s making his way back to Minnesota…
with the appeal of the summer lawsuit still in process they can’t fire Isiah without damaging the case…let’s just enjoy our own 1st round pick for once, Rose etc., and look to trade the expiring contracts, Rose etc…
The Knicks do have a lot of talent but nobody who likes to pass. They all play the 1 on 1 game which doesn’t get you many open shots. They need 1 or 2 playmakers and 2 less scorers.
P.S. I’m from the bean and am loving this Boston thing but Dwight Howard is a man-child and scares the shi+ out of me. Rondo is underrated but needs to improve his shot, but K-Perk absolutely sucks.
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