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Friday, July 25, 2014

2013 Game Thread: Knicks vs. Magic

Melo will return tonight, so this is about as must-win as you can get!

No Chandler tonight and Thomas will be out for awhile.

The Magic are pretty darn bad, so they really should pull this out. This is the start of three games against bad teams, so the Knicks really need them.

Let’s go Knicks!

49 comments on “2013 Game Thread: Knicks vs. Magic

  1. AnonymousODG

    Nick C.:
    K-Mart against Vucevic should be interesting.

    Felton against Nelson should be interesting… in a genocidal atrocity type of way.

  2. Brian Cronin

    And how awesome is it that Vucevic, like, the one guy who might actually cause them problems, is out tonight? It’s like the Utah win has brought the good luck back (well, except for Thomas being hurt, but I think we’d all see a Melo for Thomas trade as being good luck, right?)!

  3. AnonymousODG

    Brian Cronin:
    Finally, they’re just kicking another team’s ass. Thank goodness!

    Knicks starting out strong and shooting 9/14 from the field. My mind does not know how to process this.

  4. ruruland

    Man Breen is so so bad. Why can’t he just take the ESPN job full-time and let Spero take over. That guy actually does play by play.

  5. Nick C.

    Is it too soon to think Shumpert’s three point shooting represents a legitimate improvement rather than just a random hot streak ala Brewer and Kidd?

  6. Nick C.

    Pearl Washington sighting. He was beyond awesome to see play live and crossing people over while Iverson was still in grade school.

  7. Z

    Brian Cronin:
    Breen has a wonderful voice but yeah, he hasn’t seemed like he has liked any Knick team (besides Linsanity) in over a decade.

    I know, right? He’s crazy!

  8. ruruland

    Z: I know, right? He’s crazy!

    Nick C.:
    Is it too soon to think Shumpert’s three point shooting represents a legitimate improvement rather than just a random hot streak ala Brewer and Kidd?

    He’s got nice balance, good form. Much different than Brewer. should eventually be a really efficient player as a transition, spot-up and drive against rotation guy with Melo or Amar’e creating attention.

  9. AnonymousODG

    Knicks slowly but surely keeping Orlando in the game. In other news, how poetic would it be for the Cavs to stop the Heat’s streak in Cleveland?

  10. Brian Cronin

    Yeah, it is hilarious that Cleveland is up by so much. Miami is so weird, though, where big halftime leads tend not to matter that much. But I bet this is the night they do finally lose.

  11. ruruland

    Brian Cronin:
    Breen has a wonderful voice but yeah, he hasn’t seemed like he has liked any Knick team (besides Linsanity) in over a decade.

    His contempt for the Knicks I could live with if he wasn’t also a moron.

    I don’t know how anyone can stand to listen to a broadcast that is so predictably redundant. Vacuous loathing/ blind hatred. Either they dumb down the broadcast for lowest common denominator or they actually have no idea how to watch a basketball game.

    Really just an awful experience with the sound on, which is unfortunate because I like listening to the lively MSG crowd.

    I really think these two incite a lot of the fan base’s irrational hatred of most of its players.

  12. max fisher-cohen

    Brian Cronin:
    Breen has a wonderful voice but yeah, he hasn’t seemed like he has liked any Knick team (besides Linsanity) in over a decade.

    I’d say he liked the Walsh team as well. Anyway, did anyone on the planet really like the 2003-2009 Knicks? I just find Breen boring. He’s a sucker for clichés and loves to moralize, so he can be painful during slower parts of a game. I find Kevin Harlan even more annoying than Breen as he’s like the Buzz Lightyear of announcers. I feel like someone just stands behind him and pushes a button and out comes one of his five trademark sayings.

    Marv Albert is the only few play by play guy I can think of that I really like. Gus Johnson is fun too.

  13. Brian Cronin

    The moralizing part is the worst.

    Essentially, Breen has this idea of the perfect NBA player in his mind and if you don’t fit that mold, he will constantly rip you.

    What kills me, though, is that his idea of the perfect NBA player doesn’t make any sense. Like he loves Derrick Rose but hates Russell Westbrook. They play the same style!

  14. ruruland

    max fisher-cohen: I’d say he liked the Walsh team as well. Anyway, did anyone on the planet really like the 2003-2009 Knicks? I just find Breen boring. He’s a sucker for clichés and loves to moralize, so he can be painful during slower parts of a game. I find Kevin Harlan even more annoying than Breen as he’s like the Buzz Lightyear of announcers. I feel like someone just stands behind him and pushes a button and out comes one of his five trademark sayings.

    Marv Albert is the only few play by play guy I can think of that I really like. Gus Johnson is fun too.

    I agree on Harlan. What a waste of incredible talent.

    there really isn’t anyone in Albert and JVG’s class, if those two could some day be paired together…….

  15. maxwell_3g

    2nd question. did the cavs fans boo lebron or did they wuss out and cheer for the man who sold them out?

  16. AnonymousODG

    ruruland: His contempt for the Knicks I could live with if he wasn’t also a moron.

    I don’t know how anyone can stand to listen to a broadcast that is so predictably redundant. Vacuous loathing/ blind hatred. Either they dumb down the broadcast for lowest common denominator or they actually have no idea how to watch a basketball game.

    Really just an awful experience with the sound on, which is unfortunate because I like listening to the lively MSG crowd.

    I really think these two incite a lot of the fan base’s irrational hatred of most of its players.

    Tell us how you really feel, ruruland.

  17. Nick C.

    Prigs has made his shots, passed some up, worked a nice pick and roll with K-Mart, gotten a loose long rebound or two and been his usual pesky defensive self.

  18. AnonymousODG

    dr.mmfmf:
    Only have the box score up. Prigs is having a good game?

    Very good. Kidd’s barely played this game and hasn’t needed to. I noticed a few defensive gaffes that led to wide open shots (they were missed thankfully), but he’s played well. The ball movement has spread out Orlando’s defense and it’ given us results with us raining 3′s like nobody’s business. Seems he’s thriving in the starting PG role and even better, Felton seems happier in a quasi SG/PG role.

    In the meantime, Shump tweaked his left knee. Chances are Knicks medical staff will “fix” it by hammering it with a tenderizer and marinating it in soy sauce overnight.

  19. ruruland

    AnonymousODG:

    In the meantime, Shump tweaked his left knee.Chances are Knicks medical staff will “fix” it by hammering it with a tenderizer and marinating it in soy sauce overnight.

    lmbo

  20. dr.mmfmf

    ruruland: lmbo

    Unsure whether this was a typo of lmao or limbo, which hopefully is not the way the season is going. At least we’ve (hopefully) pulled away in this game.

  21. ruruland

    dr.mmfmf: Unsure whether this was a typo of lmao or limbo, which hopefully is not the way the season is going. At least we’ve (hopefully) pulled away in this game.

    I laughed my balls off.

  22. AnonymousODG

    I cannot believe the Heat came back to tie the game. Just… that’s like Isiah Thomas-levels of wrong. smh

  23. BigBlueAL

    Nets won in Dallas tonight. Boston lost in New Orleans though. Hope the panic about the Knicks dropping to the 6/7 seeds has subsided substantially and reality sets in that the furthest the Knicks could drop is to 4 and I still aint worried about the Nets passing them so right now its still a safe bet it will be a 2/3 seed for the Knicks.

    Looking ahead the Raptors have seemingly quit on the season (lost at Charlotte tonight, 3-7 in last 10 games) so even though Ill gladly take splitting the home-and-home this weekend Knicks very easily could win both which would be great to follow the 4 game losing streak immediately with a 4 game winning streak.

  24. d-mar

    BigBlueAL:
    Nets won in Dallas tonight.Boston lost in New Orleans though.Hope the panic about the Knicks dropping to the 6/7 seeds has subsided substantially and reality sets in that the furthest the Knicks could drop is to 4 and I still aint worried about the Nets passing them so right now its still a safe bet it will be a 2/3 seed for the Knicks.

    Looking ahead the Raptors have seemingly quit on the season (lost at Charlotte tonight, 3-7 in last 10 games) so even though Ill gladly take splitting the home-and-home this weekend Knicks very easily could win both which would be great to follow the 4 game losing streak immediately with a 4 game winning streak.

    Yeah, I didn’t realize the Raptors have been playing so shitty (when we lost to them earlier in the year they were actually playing pretty good basketball.)

    Knicks really need to take both games, the schedule gets a lot tougher after that.

  25. d-mar

    Also, the Bucks are only 2 games behind Boston for the 8th spot in the East. I’d LOVE to see Boston drop to 8 and play the Heat in the 1st round.

  26. BigBlueAL

    d-mar: Yeah, I didn’t realize the Raptors have been playing so shitty (when we lost to them earlier in the year they were actually playing pretty good basketball.)

    Knicks really need to take both games, the schedule gets a lot tougher after that.

    Yeah me too, was worried about this weekend vs the Raptors but saw a tweet earlier talking about their loss in Charlotte tonight and how bad they have been playing lately which I didnt realize either. Still wont complain if they split the games though.

    I dunno, Knicks still have a few tough road games but they have enough easy games (twice vs Charlotte, at Cleveland, home vs Washington) that a prolonged bad stretch isnt too likely. Plus they have an equal amount of road/home games so its not that bad.

    Judging from quotes after the game and tweets during the game (I didnt see the game) sure looks like Melo looked healthy and he certainly sounds like he is feeling a million times better than he has lately. That alone is enough to make us relax a bit, now all we need is for Chandler to get back.

  27. ruruland

    BigBlueAL: Yeah me too, was worried about this weekend vs the Raptors but saw a tweet earlier talking about their loss in Charlotte tonight and how bad they have been playing lately which I didnt realize either.Still wont complain if they split the games though.

    I dunno, Knicks still have a few tough road games but they have enough easy games (twice vs Charlotte, at Cleveland, home vs Washington) that a prolonged bad stretch isnt too likely.Plus they have an equal amount of road/home games so its not that bad.

    Judging from quotes after the game and tweets during the game (I didnt see the game) sure looks like Melo looked healthy and he certainly sounds like he is feeling a million times better than he has lately.That alone is enough to make us relax a bit, now all we need is for Chandler to get back.

    The difference between a healthy and active Melo and the guy we’ve been watching the last 6 weeks is pretty significant.

    I’ve always said that Melo’s biggest flaw is wearing down and succumbing to injury. the last 6-7 years it’s been the same pattern basically, where it’s 25 or games where he is healthy, has spring in all aspects (first step, lift, lateral, acceleration) and then long stretches where he just has to get whatever he can out of his body for whatever injury or dead leg issue he’s dealing with. Luckily he has a pretty big toolbox and strength he can rely on.

    It’s night and day. Melo just isn’t built to last like other superstars, but when he’s right, he’s right there with anyone outside of Lebron and Durant.

  28. massive

    Checking 82 games, I don’t really think Durant is the superstar he’s portrayed to be. When 80% of your FGAs are jumpers and you shoot double digit free throws on a regular basis, I’m inclined to believe there is heavy favoritism directed your way. I don’t really consider KD to be a franchise player because I think of him as a package deal with Westbrook. Now this is not to take anything away from Durant, as he is the best scorer (by far) in today’s game and his rebounding is nothing to sniff at either. I just don’t think he’s the game changer that LeBron James and Chris Paul are.

  29. jon abbey

    ruruland:
    Man Breen is so so bad. Why can’t he just take the ESPN job full-time and let Spero take over. That guy actually does play by play.

    he had an alltime classic tonight, when he tried to come up with the guy who invented basketball on the fly for a joke and said “Dr James Smith”. I rewound it just to be sure, not a shining moment there…

  30. lavor postell

    I think Kidd’s energy levels look a lot better now. He’s been a lot more active over the last 5 games defensively than he has in awhile. As ridiculous as his shooting funk has been, when he is active on defense it sparks us into getting much better offensive possessions in semi-transition. Him and Shumpert are the two guys that create any transition hoops for the Knicks.

  31. lavor postell

    jon abbey: he had an alltime classic tonight, when he tried to come up with the guy who invented basketball on the fly for a joke and said “Dr James Smith”. I rewound it just to be sure, not a shining moment there…

    Yeah the best part was this happened as Breen decided to laud Kurt Thomas because he has played with a lot of great players which apparently makes him a great guy. Clyde openly wondered if Thomas had ever played George Mikan. Classic Clyde going with some simple humor that Breen could never even hope of accomplishing.

  32. jon abbey

    lavor postell:
    I think Kidd’s energy levels look a lot better now.He’s been a lot more active over the last 5 games defensively than he has in awhile.As ridiculous as his shooting funk has been, when he is active on defense it sparks us into getting much better offensive possessions in semi-transition.Him and Shumpert are the two guys that create any transition hoops for the Knicks.

    Kenyon Martin and him still have a bit of chemistry from the olden days too, that was nice to see. couple that with the Melo/JR/Martin trio, and it’s increasingly hard to understand why NY took so long to sign Kenyon.

  33. er

    massive:
    Checking 82 games, I don’t really think Durant is the superstar he’s portrayed to be. When 80% of your FGAs are jumpers and you shoot double digit free throws on a regular basis, I’m inclined to believe there is heavy favoritism directed your way. I don’t really consider KD to be a franchise player because I think of him as a package deal with Westbrook. Now this is not to take anything away from Durant, as he is the best scorer (by far) in today’s game and his rebounding is nothing to sniff at either. I just don’t think he’s the game changer that LeBron James and Chris Paul are.

    tonights whistle in the mem-okc game was absurd and only adds to the perception that nba
    is fixed

  34. lavor postell

    er: tonights whistle in the mem-okc game was absurd and only adds to the perception that nbais fixed

    Why is that? Genuinely asking. I didn’t see the game and the box score doesn’t tell me much.

  35. er

    lavor postell: Why is that?Genuinely asking.I didn’t see the game and the box score doesn’t tell me much.

    memphis bigs were getting hammered all second half with no calls and the thunder were getting the usual tic tac. Also Durant traveled on one of the last plays of the ballgame and it was not called.

  36. lavor postell

    er: memphis bigs were getting hammered all second half with no calls and the thunder were getting the usual tic tac. Also Durant traveled on one of the last plays of the ballgame and it was not called.

    I just caught the end of the fourth and ot on league pass replay. Gasol was an absolute beast down the stretch there. Beautiful sweeping hook in ot.

    OKC is becoming an easy 1a. to Miami’s 1. in teams I absolutely can’t stand to watch because I know I will be watching the most horrible officiated garbage.

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