The Honorable Cock Jowles: Are you really comparing macroeconomic projection with the microeconomic projection of a SIGNIFICANTLY less complex and less multivariate system? Are you telling me that because economists can’t predict with any real accuracy the movement of huge global markets that are dependent on huge numbers of variables, they can’t use regression to come up with any conclusion about fucking BASKETBALL?

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW FUCKING STUPID THIS IS

Do you have any idea how stupid you look when you consistently attack straw men arguments nobody has ever made? Or when you constantly ignore very real questions about your precious little stat? I’m an engineer, guess what? That means I consider linear regressions kiddy math for people who don’t understand calculus and physics. Just because the best an economist can do is make a linear regression doesn’t mean I should submit to the idea that linear regressions are worth paying all that much attention to. Unless you find a physics/causality based model for basketball evaluation AND you start collecting your own data (the box score is garbage get over it) you’re never going to convince anyone to take you all that seriously.

massive:
ESPN ranks Andre Iguodala and James Harden as the NBA’s 28th and 26th best players in the league. Can anybody seriously name 25 better players than those two? They should both be between 15 and 20, IMO.

Iguodala’s not a volume scorer and Harden’s a sixth man who needs Westbrook to be efficient.

Obviously.

Juany8: The same economists that totally failed to predict the market crash a few years back? Why do you keep failing to understand that I’m just as knowledgeable about statistics as these economists you keep praising? Have you ever tried to predict the production of oil field? Companies spend millions acquiring the data necessary to feel comfortable with their predictions, and you’re ok with using a simple box score as your only basis of information?

You have no proof that the box score has sufficient information to form reasonable conclusions on, nor do you have proof that all the numbers in the box score are necessary for player evaluation. If the box score kept track of charges, wouldn’t creating a turnover and getting someone in foul trouble be roughly as valuable as a block or steal? Considering how poor a job assists do of actually assigning play making value, why in the world should it be used at all? How do you properly account for coaching, role, defense, and usage? Some of this information is already out there, what’s your justification for just ignoring that assisted and unassisted field goals aren’t quite the same thing?

Are you really comparing macroeconomic projection with the microeconomic projection of a SIGNIFICANTLY less complex and less multivariate system? Are you telling me that because economists can’t predict with any real accuracy the movement of huge global markets that are dependent on huge numbers of variables, they can’t use regression to come up with any conclusion about fucking BASKETBALL?

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW FUCKING STUPID THIS IS

The Honorable Cock Jowles:
Keep using those outliers. Two players undo 40 years of a trend. Whatever you say, guy. You could read Wages of Wins today, where there’s a long explanation of the system and data showing how the method matches up with actual wins, but, I know, you’re the expert. All those economists spew hokum.

The same economists that totally failed to predict the market crash a few years back? Why do you keep failing to understand that I’m just as knowledgeable about statistics as these economists you keep praising? Have you ever tried to predict the production of oil field? Companies spend millions acquiring the data necessary to feel comfortable with their predictions, and you’re ok with using a simple box score as your only basis of information?

You have no proof that the box score has sufficient information to form reasonable conclusions on, nor do you have proof that all the numbers in the box score are necessary for player evaluation. If the box score kept track of charges, wouldn’t creating a turnover and getting someone in foul trouble be roughly as valuable as a block or steal? Considering how poor a job assists do of actually assigning play making value, why in the world should it be used at all? How do you properly account for coaching, role, defense, and usage? Some of this information is already out there, what’s your justification for just ignoring that assisted and unassisted field goals aren’t quite the same thing?

The guy was at least an average player by your metric his first 2 years and then he plummets? Maybe having a real PG would have helped. Either way it’s funny how TERRIBLY wrong WP was about TD no? (Not to mention top 10 player as a rookie Landry Fields lol)

chrisk06811: My CYO team, 9th grade, I got significant minutes at the 2.our PG was a white kid with a perm.

I stand corrected lol!