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Wednesday, July 30, 2014

2012 Game Preview and Thread: Knicks @ Sixers by the numbers

The New York Knicks (22-24) head to Atlantic Division leading Philadelphia (26-20) putting a 4 game win streak on the line against the Sixers. After digging themselves quite a hole during a 6 game losing streak, the Knicks will need very strong play the rest of the way to keep their playoff hopes alive. The Knicks lead the recently reloaded Milwaukee Bucks–on a 6 game win streak– by a mere 1/2 game.

While the schedule isn’t easy, we fans can take some solace in the fact that overall the Knicks are playing very well of late. Courtesy of ESPN’s stat department and Elias Sports Bureau: The good news.

1. The Knicks have won 4 straight games since replacing Mike D’Antoni with Mike Woodson and are outscoring opponents by 22.5 PPG in those games. According to Elias, that’s the largest positive point differential for any team in NBA history over its first four games following a coaching change. The Knicks had opened the month with 6 straight losses prior to Mike Woodson taking over.

2. According to Elias, the Knicks four-game winning streak is the second-longest in franchise history to immediately follow a coaching change.

3. The 76ers enter 26-20 on the season, which marks their best 46-game start to a season since beginning 2000-01 with a 35-11 record. At this point last season, Philadelphia was 20-26.

4. The 76ers rank last in the league in free throw attempts per game (18.1).

5. This marks the third meeting of the season between the Knicks and 76ers. The teams have split the first two meetings, both of which were in New York. The Knicks have won 3 of the last 4 meetings overall.

As for the bad news, well the Sixers are still a very strong defensive team. They are 1st in points allowed at 87.7 per game (Def Rtg 97.3 for 1st). They are 4th in rebounding at 43.5 per game. The Sixers’ strengths seem to counter what the Knicks need to do well to win, that being rebound and score efficiently.

Your in-game thoughts here.

474 comments on “2012 Game Preview and Thread: Knicks @ Sixers by the numbers

  1. jon abbey

    nice job getting this one up early, Thomas, thanks.

    I hope NY has another one of those @IND type efforts in them, we owe this team a beating.

  2. drewbreez

    With Hawes in the lineup, team is better than the last encounter. He will clog up that lane a bit more, divert drives and give Chandler all he can handle on night two of the b2b.

  3. Thomas B. Post author

    jon abbey:
    nice job getting this one up early, Thomas, thanks.

    I hope NY has another one of those @IND type efforts in them, we owe this team a beating.

    Thanks for saying so.

  4. jon abbey

    let’s have a short leash on Fields tonight, we can’t afford to get in too much of a hole at the start of the 1st or 3rd. and no more Bibby!

  5. ephus

    Watching on ESPN with Breen, rather than MSG with Clyde. It’s actually more upsetting for me for these two to be separated then when my parents divorced.

  6. d-mar

    ephus:
    Watching on ESPN with Breen, rather than MSG with Clyde.It’s actually more upsetting for me for these two to be separated then when my parents divorced.

    I’m watching ESPN because as much as Bernard is one of my favorite Knicks ever, he’s truly painful to listen to.

  7. Brian Cronin

    I’m watching ESPN because as much as Bernard is one of my favorite Knicks ever, he’s truly painful to listen to.

    It is like the vocal equivalent of molasses. What a great start to the game! You know things are blessed when Fields is nailing pull-up 17 foot jumpers!

  8. dogrufus

    This team defense is literally hardening my penis

    Never seen the team try that hard for 48 seconds off an off reb

  9. rohank

    Awesome start.

    Anyone else hear the “defense” chant IN PHILLY??

    Road court advantage!!!

  10. dogrufus

    ephus:
    Watching on ESPN with Breen, rather than MSG with Clyde.It’s actually more upsetting for me for these two to be separated then when my parents divorced.

    If anyone can sub in for Clyde and do an adequate job it’s Hubie.

    He’s got that same cartoon character quality while still being a really impeccable basketball mind

  11. B.A.B.K.

    This is clearly a pro-Knicks crowd. Crazy

    rohank:
    Awesome start.

    Anyone else hear the “defense” chant IN PHILLY??

    Road court advantage!!!

  12. dogrufus

    Anyone else feel like we’ve really gotten the benefit of officiating during Woodsonity?

    Just that ever-present cynicism talking…

  13. Z

    My god, I’m listening to this on XM radio and it’s the Sixers broadcast. It’s one guy, doing play by play and color. He is having a conniption monologue– completely insane sounding. I’m not sure I an take 48 minutes of this… I almost wish the Sixers would start hitting shots, just to sedate him.

  14. Robert Silverman

    dogrufus:
    Anyone else feel like we’ve really gotten the benefit of officiating during Woodsonity?

    Just that ever-present cynicism talking…

    Well, except for the clobbering that Lin takes when he drives to the basket

  15. jon abbey

    I like Bernard King, my favorite Knick ever and as a third guy in the booth, he has some nice occasional input.

  16. Mulligan

    dogrufus: If anyone can sub in for Clyde and do an adequate job it’s Hubie.

    He’s got that same cartoon character quality while still being a really impeccable basketball mind

    I love Hubie Brown. My dream broadcast would be Hubie, Mike Breen as the straight man, and then an old goofy player like Clyde or Bill Walton (miss that guy!). Also, why can’t we ever have 2 coaches, like JVG and Hubie do a broadcast together? That would be incredible. I’d seriously pay to hear them dissect a game.

  17. Brian Cronin

    I like Bernard King, my favorite Knick ever and as a third guy in the booth, he has some nice occasional input.

    He’s fine as a third guy, but even there, when it is Breen and Clyde, I’d rather just hear from Clyde, ya know?. But as the main color guy? Brutal. By the way, looking for more 1999 comparisons, remember how bad their luck was for most of that season? Repeatedly missing game-winning shots and that brutal missed call on Houston’s shot against Miami. Then once they fired Gruenfeld and went on the streak, things changed 180 degrees, luck-wise. That sure sounds like this team, right?

  18. Thomas B. Post author

    Brian Cronin: He’s fine as a third guy, but even there, when it is Breen and Clyde, I’d rather just hear from Clyde, ya know?. But as the main color guy? Brutal. By the way, looking for more 1999 comparisons, remember how bad their luck was for most of that season? Repeatedly missing game-winning shots and that brutal missed call on Houston’s shot against Miami. Then once they fired Gruenfeld and went on the streak, things changed 180 degrees, luck-wise. That sure sounds like this team, right?

    Is the game that boring? Really?

  19. Z

    The crack fiend Just channelled Clyde: “Brand stumbled and bumbled his way into a layup”. WHAT?!

  20. B.A.B.K.

    Mean Stoudemire dunk. Nice to see. Been a while. He’s certainly been playing much better the past 2 weeks.

  21. Z

    God, I was so relieved for that timeout– a welcome break from the Human Headache… And they cut to a Michael Vick ad for embassy suites. This is just too much…

  22. Thomas B. Post author

    Z:
    God, I was so relieved for that timeout– a welcome break from the Human Headache… And they cut to a Michael Vick ad for embassy suites. This is just too much…

    Embassy Suites, the pet friendly hotel.

  23. art vandelay

    Mulligan:
    Impossible to tell a good JR Smith shot from a bad one

    As opposed to a Bibby shot, which is every single one he takes!

  24. Z

    Did shump reAlly shoot “from 38 feet out”, or was that yet another crack-induced hallucination?

  25. Mulligan

    Z:
    Did shump reAlly shoot “from 38 feet out”, or was that yet another crack-induced hallucination?

    It was pretty far, but they had like 2 seconds on the shot clock left.

  26. Will the Thrill

    This season we haven’t seen it, besides one blowout game where all of his 3s came in the second half. But he is surprisingly active on the glass and on the defensive end so I’m liking him right now.

    Mulligan: Unfair. Definitely more than some. Dude can go off!

  27. Mulligan

    Mike Breen going soft with his sarcastic crack about how defense-heavy the game is. D’Antoni’s gone bro! Time to grind it out!

  28. dogrufus

    I’ve hated on Fields alot this season but that was a man’s move to stop the bleeding

  29. Thomas B. Post author

    A slight drop off in defense combined with the Sixers recalling how to shoot equals 2 point game. What does it mean when Fields has been the most effective Knick in the first half?

  30. Will the Thrill

    Looks like he heard you!

    jon abbey:
    let’s have a short leash on Fields tonight, we can’t afford to get in too much of a hole at the start of the 1st or 3rd. and no more Bibby!

  31. Thomas B. Post author

    jon abbey:
    let’s have a short leash on Fields tonight, we can’t afford to get in too much of a hole at the start of the 1st or 3rd. and no more Bibby!

    I need Bibby to play at least one minute. I have a great undead joke for the recap.

  32. DRed

    Knicks up 9 on the road, Jon Abbey saying nice things about Fields-what the hell is going on here?

    That was a great lob to Melo by Lin there.

  33. Mulligan

    Glad I’m drinking copiously. I can already tell this game is going to leave me feeling worn out, regardless of the outcome.

  34. Juany8

    Is it just me or have the refs been bad? Lin’s been knocked down twice, and one time he got called for a foul…

  35. dogrufus

    Did I just imagine that vintage ’06 Dunk from Amare?

    How about a fucking replay ESPN?

    We have the technology

  36. Brian Cronin

    Spend halftime reading my latest LA Times Sports Legend Revealed. It is about how Victorian England came up with a myth about amateurism in the Ancient Greek Olympics to support their elitist practices at competitions that helped dictate how the Olympics worked for nearly a century. You can read it here.

  37. Juany8

    Brian Cronin:
    Holy shit, 1 for 9, Lin? That’s kinda nuts.

    He’s jacking up some really bad shots when he’s forced to pick up his dribble and has no one to pass to. I know he’s a rookie and Carmelo and Stoudemire have struggled, but if anyone is going to jack up bad shots it should be them lol

  38. jon abbey

    some of those Lin shots aren’t his fault, the offense does nothing and they throw it back to him with 3 on the 24.

  39. Brian Cronin

    some of those Lin shots aren’t his fault, the offense does nothing and they throw it back to him with 3 on the 24.

    True, but wow, I was taken aback by the 1 for 9.

  40. jon abbey

    limpidgimp:
    I’m tired of seeing Lin walk the ball up slowly. Run it up!

    I don’t think you do that against Philly, one of the few teams I’m OK with slowing it down against.

  41. Mulligan

    jon abbey:
    some more help from the bench in the second half would be welcome.

    Yeah, it seemed like Woodson subbed all of the starters back in, just because Baron was playing like a spazz.

  42. art vandelay

    Juany8: He’s jacking up some really bad shots when he’s forced to pick up his dribble and has no one to pass to. I know he’s a rookie and Carmelo and Stoudemire have struggled, but if anyone is going to jack up bad shots it should be them lol

    By struggled, you don’t mean STAT is struggling tonight, right???

  43. Unreason

    Holy crap am I happy. Amare’s missing game returns, Fields looks good. The D so D-liscious I’m gaining weight just watching it. Can’t quite believe it all.

  44. Frank O.

    Lin has caught the ball at least three times with no time on the shot clock. He’s playing much better than Baron, who seems rusty.

  45. jon abbey

    whoa, Baron had three fouls in that brief cameo? not an easy game to come back in, one of the toughest Ds in the league.

  46. Thomas B. Post author

    jon abbey:
    too many offensive boards for Philly.

    Amen. But it is one of the things they do very well. We could be up 15 if not for the the Sixers being +5 on the offensive glass and +5 overall.

  47. limpidgimp

    jon abbey: I don’t think you do that against Philly, one of the few teams I’m OK with slowing it down against.

    Even when the defender isn’t hounding him, he’s taking the ball up so slowly that by the time they set up, there’s isn’t much time left on the shot clock.

  48. massive

    And now ESPN is giving the Knicks credit for good defense as if D’Antoni leaving and Woodson taking the reigns made all the difference. We’ve been one of the better defensive teams all year, ESPN. But I guess you’ll get fired if you have your own opinion if you work for them.

  49. DRed

    massive:
    Elton Brand with 12 points, 8 rebounds, and 3 blocks. Amar’e sure is back lol.

    That’s that classic Amare D. As long as he’s scoring efficiently I won’t complain. Well, not that much.

  50. art vandelay

    Key stat is 8 TO’s at halftime…not great but not terrible…and most importantly, they haven’t been committing the kind that lead to run-outs the other way…philly is like memphis in that they LOVE to turn defense into offense (we have sort of become one of those teams with Shump, Landry, Lin and others who swipe at the ball a lot i the lane)…if we can force Philly to create offense in the half court without giving them free points, we should be fine.

  51. Brian Cronin

    And now ESPN is giving the Knicks credit for good defense as if D’Antoni leaving and Woodson taking the reigns made all the difference. We’ve been one of the better defensive teams all year, ESPN. But I guess you’ll get fired if you have your own opinion if you work for them.

    Yeah, that really does piss me off. Blame D’Antoni for lack of effort or whatever, but the Knicks were good on defense all season. The Toronto announcers were ripping the Knicks defense when they played great defense on Toronto…the last time they played Toronto!!!

  52. art vandelay

    massive:
    And now ESPN is giving the Knicks credit for good defense as if D’Antoni leaving and Woodson taking the reigns made all the difference. We’ve been one of the better defensive teams all year, ESPN. But I guess you’ll get fired if you have your own opinion if you work for them.

    Yes, and they must be saying the ENTIRE TEAM quit on D’antoni when in reality it was basically just Melo.

  53. Z-man

    Aside from some blown fast breaks early in the 2nd, great half! Playoff-type intensity. On the radio it sounded like there are lots of Knicks fans in the house. Oh, and Mike Crispino is hard to listen to (not to mention Ol’ John A)

  54. Juany8

    art vandelay: By struggled, you don’t mean STAT is struggling tonight, right???

    He’s struggled in isolation all year, luckily he’s not doing it as much now, but I’d rather have him taking contested jumpers than Lin is what I’m saying (especially late in the shot clock).

    That being said, I love this Amar’e, especially his renewed effort on defense. He’s still not good but he’s not getting destroyed anymore, which as all this team really needs for now, Chandler should get DPOY

  55. Unreason

    The Knicks are good enough defensively to be smothering even when Amare gets significant minutes and good enough offensively to make up for several of their best scorers not shooting well.
    Whatever else this game shows, it shows the potential of this team against a great defensive opponent is very real.

  56. Frank O.

    It’s all about the adjustments now. Let’s see what Woodson does.
    Melo needs together his stroke. Take some pressure off Lin. Chandler needs to be more aggressive at the o boards

  57. ess-dog

    Wow, 35 points at the half for the Atlantic division leader.

    What the french happened to this team?!? It’s a shock to the system to see a team underachieve so badly and then realize it’s potential in the span of about a day.

    OH SWEET JESUS.

    I just glimpsed the Raptors cammo unis. UNGODLY. My eyes!

  58. Juany8

    Let’s not ignore that this is the second game of a back to back, on the road, against a young, deep, defensive team. And the team has lots of room for improvement, if only by making their freaking free throws.

  59. Thomas B. Post author

    Lin at 1-9 from the floor is much less a problem for me than if he had 4 turnovers at the half. He had to put up a couple of shots late in the shot clock that had little chance of dropping. Lin does better when he can get to the hole; he has not had luck with that against this defense. Look we saw in the Heat game how hard a time he has with physical full court pressure. 1-9 isnt unexpected given how good this defense is. At least Fields is playing well to balance things out. At 3-3 with zero turnovers, he has helped mask Lin’s issues tonight.

  60. jon abbey

    3 boards for Chandler is not enough. we need a big half here from everyone, tomorrow is for rest.

  61. massive

    ess-dog:
    Wow, 35 points at the half for the Atlantic division leader.

    What the french happened to this team?!?It’s a shock to the system to see a team underachieve so badly and then realize it’s potential in the span of about a day.

    OH SWEET JESUS.

    I just glimpsed the Raptors cammo unis.UNGODLY.My eyes!

    I guess that’s what happens when Woodson preaches and applies accountability. The last time I saw D’Antoni get on a player, that guy was benched for a month and traded for Bill Walker.

  62. Juany8

    jon abbey:
    3 boards for Chandler is not enough. we need a big half here from everyone, tomorrow is for rest.

    Hate to say it, but Chandler might be our worst player this game. Speed and effort not quite there

  63. ess-dog

    DRed: That’s that classic Amare D.As long as he’s scoring efficiently I won’t complain.Well, not that much.

    Brand is a good player, probably their biggest consistent scoring threat. He’s having a great year, no shame in matching his points. He’s not containing Amare either… cmon, give Stat a break.

  64. d-mar

    DRed: That’s that classic Amare D.As long as he’s scoring efficiently I won’t complain.Well, not that much.

    You guys have to stop with the standard “Amare sucks on D” comments. A lot of Brand’s points were scored off of busted plays, not because he torched his man. Amare is actually playing pretty solid D, give him some credit.

  65. daJudge

    If the Knicks attend to detail the rest of the game, boxing out, playing decent D, setting hard picks, hitting free throws, no techs, just smart ball they win tis game because they are the better team and they are up by 8. No one is in foul trouble. Amare is fired up. So am I. This is a huge game, plain and simple, but they should win.

  66. massive

    d-mar: You guys have to stop with the standard “Amare sucks on D” comments. A lot of Brand’s points were scored off of busted plays, not because he torched his man. Amare is actually playing pretty solid D, give him some credit.

    Give Amar’e credit for defense? Who do you think we are?

  67. limpidgimp

    Frank O.:
    It’s all about the adjustments now. Let’s see what Woodson does.
    Melo needs together his stroke. Take some pressure off Lin. Chandler needs to be more aggressive at the o boards

    In the 1st quarter, the Knicks was taking up the ball up quickly when they let someone other than Lin take it up. The Sixers were not pressuring the other players taking the ball up, just Lin. Then in 2nd quarter, went back to Lin taking it up, slowly.

  68. ess-dog

    massive: I guess that’s what happens when Woodson preaches and applies accountability. The last time I saw D’Antoni get on a player, that guy was benched for a month and traded for Bill Walker.

    Yeah but why didn’t Woodson preach and apply accountability as the assistant coach? Subterfuge?

  69. drewbreez

    jon abbey:
    3 boards for Chandler is not enough. we need a big half here from everyone, tomorrow is for rest.

    Don’t be talkin bout my baby moms like that yo. Ferreal. Sixers are doing an unusually good job of getting O Rebs, Chandler is making all the difference on man-defense.

  70. Frank O.

    Why is it that when the Knicks are down the announcer talk about the winning team, and when the Knicks are winning they talk about the losing team?

  71. Unreason

    I know it’s old news but the depth of the bench is just amazing now. Except for Chicago and a couple of others it gives them the ability to wear opponents out and keep them on their heels with different looks. Watching this is making me giddy thinking about what they could do if they stay focused and keep honing the team D.

  72. Mulligan

    Good lord, can we get some run with the starters with Novak as a SG? Or JR? Any kind of 3 point shooting? I’d love to see some better spacing and I’m sick of watching Landry pass up those open looks..

  73. jon abbey

    ess-dog: Yeah but why didn’t Woodson preach and apply accountability as the assistant coach?Subterfuge?

    it’s pretty obvious at this point that the switching was D’Antoni’s plan, since Woodson pretty much immediately dumped that after taking over.

  74. massive

    ess-dog: Yeah but why didn’t Woodson preach and apply accountability as the assistant coach?Subterfuge?

    It’s sorta like how Jason Garrett was calling a pass-heavy (or was it run-heavy? I forget) when he was a coordinator under Wade Philips, then he called the exact opposite of it when he was the Head Coach after Wade Philips got fired.

  75. Mulligan

    Can someone break down for me what Philly is doing that is making them so good at offensive rebounds? How do they do that and not be late to get back on D?

  76. briand

    Mulligan:
    Can someone break down for me what Philly is doing that is making them so good at offensive rebounds? How do they do that and not be late to get back on D?

    They are only 23rd in O resbounds on the year. So this is probably just a little bit of luck.

  77. Mulligan

    STAT carrying this team! Seriously, is anyone else playing remotely close to him? How is this possible?

  78. ephus

    As in the Bulls game, the Knicks’ aggression on defense is costing them on the defensive boards. They are jumping out on cutters and leaving themselves vulnerable.

  79. Will the Thrill

    We really have to ride Amare this game on offense. Nobody else is getting it done, he has bailed us out multiple times. And I LOVE IT!

  80. dogrufus

    I have a bad feeling about this… we’ve outplayed them enough that we should be up more than 4.

    Feels like the CHI game.

  81. Thomas B. Post author

    Philly is going to keep playing Lin physically until the refs do something about it. He just can’t be effective when he is getting hit 23 feet from the basket. He isn’t strong enough a ball handler to deal with that.

    Speaking of poor ball handling…Ladies and Gents, Mr. Baron Davis.

  82. Thomas B. Post author

    Hey Caleb,

    What’s the Knick record for lowest points in a quarter since the advent of the shot clock?

  83. briand

    Could really use some shooting out there. If only we had a guy who makes it rain from three regularly.

  84. Juany8

    Yep, time to give up after we give up the first lead of this win streak. I seriously hope everyone is joking.

  85. ess-dog

    dogrufus:
    Well, game over

    Been fun guys

    It’s cool – just our usual 3rd quarter blues. If we’re within 5 at the start of the 4th, the game is OURS.

  86. Will the Thrill

    At least Lin moves around as he’s dribbling too much, Baron just stands in one spot waiting as the clock winds down.

  87. SSS

    Baron is beginning to show some signs of life…maybe he’s beginning to shake the rust off?

  88. d-mar

    Might be a good time for a certain player whose name rhymes with Jello to come up big in the 4th quarter

  89. drewbreez

    dogrufus:
    Where the FUCK is Novak?

    Hard to play Novak against athletic wing guys like Young/Igoudala. He may not add enough value in this game to be out there for significant stretches, maybe none of the offense-first guys should be out there in this Louisiana hog-wrassle.

  90. Unreason

    SSS:
    Baron is beginning to show some signs of life…maybe he’s beginning to shake the rust off?

    He is. Amare is. Fields is. JJ’s playing well. Shump looks good. I say the Knicks pull this out.

  91. SSS

    Frank O.: Shump, boneheaded not to pass there

    Maybe, but it also looked to me like there wasn’t much of a passing lane and he did at least draw the foul.

  92. Frank O.

    SSS: Maybe, but it also looked to me like there wasn’t much of a passing lane and he did at least draw the foul.

    Nah, it was there

  93. massive

    I don’t think the Knicks can afford to lose tonight. We have to get back above .500, and we can’t lose any more division games if we want a legitimate shot at winning a playoff series.

  94. briand

    Frank O.:
    Need more from Melo. 4-10 for 8! But only two boards and one assist

    Iguodola one of the best wing defenders in the league. Ill cut him some slack.

  95. Frank O.

    Amare needs to see the ball more. He’s their best option and he hasn’t touched it for a while

  96. Juany8

    ess-dog: It’s cool – just our usual 3rd quarter blues.If we’re within 5 at the start of the 4th, the game is OURS.

    Let’s hope you were right, it does feel like they’re capable of just going on a tear at any point, the Sixers have not really played well

  97. art vandelay

    We may really regret that last 1:30 of the 3rd quarter after the Smith 3! I hope not….

  98. dogrufus

    If we lose here it’s the nail in the coffin for our hopes to win the Atlantic, and losing the Atlantic means 0% chance of a winnable first round matchup.

    They always get my hopes up again, just enough to dash them.

  99. d-mar

    I still think it’s advantage Knicks heading into the 4th, we have a lot more offensive options then they do (unless of course Lou Williams continues to hit contested 3 pointers, then all bets are off)

  100. cgreene

    3 pt% is difference in the game right now. Man, seems like that has been the case a lot this year.

  101. max fisher-cohen

    Brian Cronin:
    I mean, yes, they obviously “need” this game, but they’re in good shape even if they lose a game here or there.

    If they aim to have a chance in the first round, I’d say catching Philly is their best chance. Milwaukee is on a tear and has an easy schedule. I expect them to finish with a better record than Philadelphia. This also would be the tiebreaker if we finished with the same record as Philly.

    If you’re looking for single important games, this is probably the most important single game.

  102. dogrufus

    cgreene:
    3 pt% is difference in the game right now.Man, seems like that has been the case a lot this year.

    If only we had some sort of lanky, ghostly-white sharpshooter who hits everything

  103. Unreason

    Brian Cronin:
    Louis Williams is taking the same shots, he’s just making them.

    He looks a little too good.. needs to have bit o Shump Shump applied to his stride.

  104. Z

    I’ve been informed by the rabid, Mike Franscesa want-to-be that JEFFRIES IS HURT!!”. Is it as bad as he says, or is that just the way he says everything?

  105. cgreene

    Knicks last 3 shots in and out.

    It bums me out that I have no faith that Melo will have a positive impact on O

  106. ephus

    Shumpert beats up Williams, Hawes beats up Shumpert, but Novak gets the foul on a touch of Williams.

  107. Kantei

    I’m always annoyed by the way he says “Shot blockah”.

    Z:
    I’ve been informed by the rabid, Mike Franscesa want-to-be that JEFFRIES IS HURT!!”. Is it as bad as he says, or is that just the way he says everything?

  108. BigBlueAL

    Got home with a few mins left in the 3rd quarter. All I can say is this feels like an old-school 90′s Knicks playoff game lol

  109. max fisher-cohen

    briand: Have to wait for Hawes to come back in so there is a white guy for him to match up against.

    briand:
    Amare should go right every time.Regardless of how the defender is playing him.

    That’s two zingers for you tonight, briand. Keep it up.

  110. Frank O.

    Melo’s movement tonight away from the ball isn’t good. He’s hanging around the block and not spreading the floor.
    He’s not going to get that post lob.
    Wish he was more active. I think the back to back is still tough for him because of his fitness….

  111. Mulligan

    cgreene: I kinda hear that too.Weird.Not like him.

    Actually, after I wrote that he seemed pretty happy for STAT. Hard to tell. I guess he just wants to see players make good plays.

  112. BigBlueAL

    Frank O.:
    Man, Stat has his legs just popping. Dnk didn’t count but he looks great

    He definitely has lost some hops but his quickness seems to be back.

  113. drewbreez

    briand:
    Amare should go right every time.Regardless of how the defender is playing him.

    Amar’e should avoid any lateral movement that’s not him rolling leisurely out of his king bed. His knees are the sands of time. North to South drives = scores, foul shots. Maneuvering, cross-body attempts = charges, turnovers.

  114. Frank O.

    Great take by Lin.
    The difference right now is the Knicks have more weapons on O.
    Lin and stat carrying the knicks

  115. BigBlueAL

    I cant believe Im saying this but Jeremy Lin is the player I want taking all the shots in the 4th quarter lol

  116. Juany8

    Oh man I’ve been as hard on Lin as anyone but he’s been great, forget his stat line he’s had a sick game.

  117. Mulligan

    BigBlueAL:
    I cant believe Im saying this but Jeremy Lin is the player I want taking all the shots in the 4th quarter lol

    Don’t know about shots, but definitely holding the ball

  118. BigBlueAL

    Mulligan: Don’t know about shots, but definitely holding the ball

    Yeah shouldve said I want the ball in his hands at all times in the 4th quarter and let him make all the decisions.

  119. Unreason

    He’s had a poor game tonight, I but loooove the way Lin gets more fired up, intense, and focused as the game winds down.

  120. Mulligan

    So Del Negro’s gotta be out as coach of the clippers after this year, right? Would love to see D’Antoni get that job.

  121. d-mar

    ephus:
    Sixers are going really small, which is why Woodson is keeping Chandler out.

    Yeah, and he’s leaving Shump in to guard Williams

  122. dogrufus

    Just unreal that those are Lin’s first FTA’s the way he’s been clobbered all night

    If he got calls like Rose he’d be a top 5 pg

  123. massive

    If only Amar’e played like this all season. I love how he’s playing now; hopefully he keeps this up during the playoffs. Actually, now that I think about it, there isn’t a PF in the Eastern Conference that is better than Amar’e when he’s in STAT form.

  124. ephus

    dogrufus:
    Just unreal that those are Lin’s first FTA’s the way he’s been clobbered all night

    If he got calls like Rose he’d be a top 5 pg

    Rose has $25k that says that he does not get any superstar calls. ;)

  125. cgreene

    d-mar: Yeah, and he’s leaving Shump in to guard Williams

    That’s the absolute right move btw!!! Shump and JR locking up.

  126. briand

    Great job by Stat.

    Sixers should be going to Brand more in the half court and seeing if Amare can guard him one on one.

  127. dogrufus

    Mike Woodson uses “Soft” on STATue.

    STATue is cured of petrification!

    STATue is now STAT!

    AGI +5 DEX +12

  128. Frank O.

    Melo is slow to roll. Slow to the hoop and he’s got no hops. What the hell happened to him?

  129. Nick C.

    Juany8:
    Oh man I’ve been as hard on Lin as anyone but he’s been great, forget his stat line he’s had a sick game.

    I’m sorry I ever gave you a hard time about being less taken by Lin than I was. Your obviously a tough but fair grader.

  130. art vandelay

    This reminds me of game 1 against boston in playoffs in which STAT was on fire and we kept going to Melo down the stretch.

  131. DRed

    I know the clock was getting low, but there was a 0.0% chance that JR was going to pass once he got the ball. Keep your head up, son.

  132. massive

    The free throw situation has been the story of the season; the Knicks just can’t have it easy.

  133. SSS

    Chandler must have tweaked something. And I’m not sure why the Knicks even bother having a coach if we’re going to post Melo up vs Iggy down the stretch.

  134. Thomas B. Post author

    Is swishing two free throws too much to ask? No more of this roll around the rim crap. Two shots. Two “Thwap” sounds. Got it?!

  135. ephus

    Lin has seriously improved his free throw shooting. He is up in Mark Price territory over the last 30 free throws.

  136. Unreason

    Damn. This has been so impressive defensively, to me the significance of the win pales in comparison.

  137. ephus

    Smith actually made the right play with that long pass. He was not going to get it across the time line by dribbling.

  138. jon abbey

    I think Chandler is fine, they were going with the best perimeter defenders. tough to argue with 71 points allowed, 30 seconds left.

  139. BigBlueAL

    WOW I thought they played 1 more time but I guess not. So a win tonight and Knicks clinch tie-breaker vs Philly. HUGE.

  140. briand

    I feel like watching this Sixer team is what watching a team of 5 Iman Shumperts would look like.

  141. Kantei

    END.

    It was a tough one, but we kicked some Philly ass.

    1Q: 19-11 (+8 point difference)
    2Q: 24-24 (0 point difference)
    3Q: 16-23 (-7 point difference)
    4Q: 82-79 (+3 point difference)

    For some reason, we always crap up the third quarter. If it weren’t for Lin’s amazing 10-for-10 free throws, we could have very well been put behind.

  142. Frank O.

    What a ballsy win.
    Lin scores 16 in fourth.

    And Melo creates yet another after victory debate. Where the hell was he tonight?

  143. Mulligan

    briand:
    I feel like watching this Sixer team is what watching a team of 5 Iman Shumperts would look like.

    Haha. 3 for 3!

    And the answer is, alternately awesome and chucktastic.

  144. jon abbey

    Frank O.:
    What a ballsy win.
    Lin scores 16 in fourth.

    And Melo creates yet another after victory debate. Where the hell was he tonight?

    Iguodala is the best SF defender in the league, he looked exhausted on his last few shots after defending Melo all game.

  145. Nick C.

    What a great win. D-E-F-E-N-S-E!!! Better still Tyson was not playing much and Jared was out and still the defense was there.

  146. Z

    Mulligan:
    Wow. Weird end to the game. I thought we were gonna win, but not like that! At all.

    Please describe (I had to turn the maniac off)

  147. Mulligan

    limpidgimp:
    Wow I’ve been stressed since the game started. So glad Knicks pulled this one out.

    Honestly couldn’t care. They won in some weird crazy way. Melo will have his game at some point.

  148. BigBlueAL

    briand:
    I feel like watching this Sixer team is what watching a team of 5 Iman Shumperts would look like.

    With 5 Jared Jeffries coming off the bench.

  149. jon abbey

    Z: Please describe (I had to turn the maniac off)

    Philly cut it to 3 with a driving layup and maybe 4-5 seconds left, they still had a timeout left but somehow didn’t foul and NY dribbled it out. they might have gotten confused because Lin didn’t get the inbounds for once.

  150. dogrufus

    Fun fact: My friend bet the Knicks to win by 4+. I’m sure you can imagine his reaction to the Sixers’ hilarious decision not to foul when they still had a chance to tie

  151. d-mar

    I get that Amare was a no show on D for most of this season, but he was a beast at both ends tonight. That partial block on Brand’s jumper was huge.

  152. The Infamous Cdiggy

    dogrufus:
    Mike Woodson uses “Soft” on STATue.

    STATue is cured of petrification!

    STATue is now STAT!

    AGI +5 DEX +12

    haahahahahaaaa lmao @ the ol’ RPG reference

  153. Frank O.

    jon abbey: Iguodala is the best SF defender in the league, he looked exhausted on his last few shots after defending Melo all game.

    I guess.
    They kind of canceled each other.
    Fantastic though:
    The Sixers shot slightly better, but the Knicks were +8 on the boards, +4 on o boards.
    That and foul shots, 22 made to 13 for Sixers, and that’s the game.
    Knicks asserted their will in the fourth

  154. Unreason

    jon abbey: And Melo creates yet another after victory debate.

    I hope not. That is so uninteresting compared the ridiculously good things we saw. This team is so freakin’ fo real. They can take that show anywhere and make anyone’s life a living hell. I loved it!

  155. jon abbey

    Unreason: I hope not. That is so uninteresting compared the ridiculously good things we saw. This team is so freakin’ fo real. They can take that show anywhere and make anyone’s life a living hell. I loved it!

    I wasn’t the one who said that, for the record.

  156. cgreene

    What I like most about that win is that I think that Amare is starting to get some confidence on defense. And I think Woodie is helping him with that. 2 huge blocks. One great help play on the Turner jumper (something he never would have done before). And he shut down Brand completely in the 2nd half (Brand had some great D too btw.) Then the fact that Woodie showed faith in him enough to leave him out there without Chandler and run the small lineup of D specialists was great coaching IMO. Love it!

    Now don’t go fucking it up and lose to Detroit or something.

  157. Unreason

    d-mar: he was a beast at both ends tonight

    Nah. He’s still a very poor team defender, but who cares. He’s back. He was always a plus shot blocker and passable defensive rebounder. That’s all the Knicks need him to be. If his game is really back, that’s huge.

  158. daJudge

    “I could give a shite about individual players and their stats. I just really hate Philly. Great win boyos.” Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi, 1932.

  159. d-mar

    cgreene:
    What I like most about that win is that I think that Amare is starting to get some confidence on defense.And I think Woodie is helping him with that.2 huge blocks.One great help play on the Turner jumper (something he never would have done before).And he shut down Brand completely in the 2nd half (Brand had some great D too btw.)Then the fact that Woodie showed faith in him enough to leave him out there without Chandler and run the small lineup of D specialists was great coaching IMO.Love it!

    Now don’t go fucking it up and lose to Detroit or something.

    Superb coaching by Woodie, that’s a ballsy move to leave Chandler on the bench basically the whole 4th quarter, and it worked.

  160. massive

    Mike Woodson not playing Novak enough and the injury to Derrick Rose is seriously killing me in Fantasy Basketball. More importantly, Novak needs more minutes. You don’t keep your best shooter on the bench when you’re defense can cover for him being a sieve. I still think we should play Linsanity ball with Lin, Fields/Shumpert, Novak, Jeffries, and Chandler on court for stretches during the game.

  161. Unreason

    daJudge:
    “I could give a shite about individual players and their stats.I just really hate Philly. Great win boyos.” Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi, 1932.

    Inspiring stuff Babaji :)

  162. cgreene

    d-mar: Superb coaching by Woodie, that’s a ballsy move to leave Chandler on the bench basically the whole 4th quarter, and it worked.

    And not to dance on a man’s grave bc I think MDA is a good dude but I can’t ever remember saying that a great strategic in game decision by him was something that won us or helped us win a game. Woodie recognized that he had a defensive advantage on more offensive fire power and slowed it down and won it with execution.

  163. drewbreez

    Commissioning a cookie and a lollipop to Melo for his defense against Iggy. Typically, he owns Iggy on offense and defense but in this, his overweight/unmotivated season, he has searched endlessly (and fruitlessly) for other ways to contribute. The sweet dish in the 4th. The man defense. The rebounding. The early run-outs. He is learning to do well with limits and that bodes well for the squad.

  164. Frank O.

    d-mar: Superb coaching by Woodie, that’s a ballsy move to leave Chandler on the bench basically the whole 4th quarter, and it worked.

    Fields too didn’t get off the bench down the stretch.
    Baron was nailed to the bench too. A lot to think about.
    Chandler was a gutsy call. But keeping Lin and Shump on the floor, two rooks, speaks volumes about the confidence Woodie has in them.
    I hope Jeffries isn’t out too long.
    Hate to say it, but Woodie’s a better in game tactician than Mike D., and Mike D. Was better at overall concept.
    I suspect Woodie will continue to use Mike’s offense.
    But again, his in game plan is very good.

  165. Juany8

    d-mar: Superb coaching by Woodie, that’s a ballsy move to leave Chandler on the bench basically the whole 4th quarter, and it worked.

    That really helped with the team’s spacing, Chandler can become a bit one dimensional if Novak isn’t in because neither Landry nor Shumpert can space the floor right now. Chandler is amazing inside, but so is STAT right now if given the space to work. This team will still need Chandler to match up inside against some of the bigger teams though.

  166. JC Knickfan

    Man 4-17 from Lin, 5-15 from Melo and we still win. What great defense tonight specially with Tyson on the bench. Amare needs get ball more as he hot right now. Lin should tried feed more specially with his shot not falling. But wow, Lin was clutch in the 4th – foul shot looking great.

  167. jon abbey

    Frank O.: Fields too didn’t get off the bench down the stretch.
    Baron was nailed to the bench too. A lot to think about.
    Chandler was a gutsy call. But keeping Lin and Shump on the floor, two rooks, speaks volumes about the confidence Woodie has in them.
    I hope Jeffries isn’t out too long.
    Hate to say it, but Woodie’s a better in game tactician than Mike D., and Mike D. Was better at overall concept.
    I suspect Woodie will continue to use Mike’s offense.
    But again, his in game plan is very good.

    D’Antoni almost always played Shumpert over Fields down the stretch after Lin emerged and Shumpert didn’t have to play PG anymore.

    I am one of Baron’s biggest fans, but he was pretty terrible tonight. hopefully it was just a one game thing, we’re going to need him down the stretch.

  168. massive

    drewbreez:
    Commissioning a cookie and a lollipop to Melo for his defense against Iggy. Typically, he owns Iggy on offense and defense but in this, his overweight/unmotivated season, he has searched endlessly (and fruitlessly) for other ways to contribute. The sweet dish in the 4th. The man defense. The rebounding. The early run-outs. He is learning to do well with limits and that bodes well for the squad.

    I just hope his offense comes soon enough. We need this new, defensive Melo to merge with the Melo we had on offense last year (the guy who put up career numbers as a Knick). It’s amazing that this team still hasn’t been firing on all cylinders.

  169. jon abbey

    cgreene: yeah.for some reason i’m worried about that one.someone soothe me.

    they’re focused right now, and more importantly they can see how well Milwaukee is playing.

  170. hoolahoop

    I like Dantoni, but in games like this the knicks usually get out-coached, especially down he stretch, and lose by three.

    Not tonight, baby!

  171. Caleb

    The team is fun to watch right now.

    I didn’t get to watch except in little bits and pieces (at work) but every time I did it seemed like Stoudemire was making a big play. And Lin, towards the end, after what looked like a rough game (1/11 at one point). Who was guarding Lin most of the time? Was it Holliday? I’m a big fan of his.

    And how bad did Jeffries get hurt?

    From the stat sheet it looks like they won it on the boards – they were getting outrebounded early, when they were winning, but they outboarded a great rebounding team, 47-39.

    Also I have to say I am loving Woodson’s rotations. Mixing it up, not overloading the starters, using the depth.

  172. Frank O.

    jon abbey: D’Antoni almost always played Shumpert over Fields down the stretch after Lin emerged and Shumpert didn’t have to play PG anymore.

    I am one of Baron’s biggest fans, but he was pretty terrible tonight. hopefully it was just a one game thing, we’re going to need him down the stretch.

    Knicks can play so many ways with this lineup. They can grind or run. They can run so many guards with different tools.
    Amazing what has developed. And again, tactically, they seem to have gotten stronger.
    Feels a little shitty saying it because I like Mike. But there it is.

  173. Bruno Almeida

    Frank O.:
    What a ballsy win.
    Lin scores 16 in fourth.

    And Melo creates yet another after victory debate. Where the hell was he tonight?

    are we still having the “Melo will end up with a higher TS% than James Harden” debate or is that dead as it always should have been?

    defense was really awesome today, our offense looked pretty terrible but Philly is a very good defensive team, so that’s fine.

  174. Z

    jon abbey: Philly cut it to 3 with a driving layup and maybe 4-5 seconds left, they still had a timeout left but somehow didn’t foul and NY dribbled it out. they might have gotten confused because Lin didn’t get the inbounds for once.

    Cool, thanks jon (that was way more pleasant than hearing it from the bastard son of Rosie O’Donnell and Crazy Eddy)

  175. Frank O.

    Caleb:
    The team is fun to watch right now.

    I didn’t get to watch except in little bits and pieces (at work) but every time I did it seemed like Stoudemire was making a big play. And Lin, towards the end, after what looked like a rough game (1/11 at one point). Who was guarding Lin most of the time? Was it Holliday? I’m a big fan of his.

    And how bad did Jeffries get hurt?

    From the stat sheet it looks like they won it on the boards – they were getting outrebounded early, when they were winning, but they outboarded a great rebounding team, 47-39.

    Also I have to say I am loving Woodson’s rotations. Mixing it up, not overloading the starters, using the depth.

    Not sure I’d call it “fun.” lol
    Wrenching…trying…brutal, maybe.
    Pleased as I am with the outcome, fun wasn’t the word I had in mind. ;)

  176. jon abbey

    Caleb:
    The team is fun to watch right now.

    I didn’t get to watch except in little bits and pieces (at work) but every time I did it seemed like Stoudemire was making a big play. And Lin, towards the end, after what looked like a rough game (1/11 at one point). Who was guarding Lin most of the time? Was it Holliday? I’m a big fan of his.

    And how bad did Jeffries get hurt?

    From the stat sheet it looks like they won it on the boards – they were getting outrebounded early, when they were winning, but they outboarded a great rebounding team, 47-39.

    Also I have to say I am loving Woodson’s rotations. Mixing it up, not overloading the starters, using the depth.

    Jeffries is day to day, I think.

    the rebounding was huge in the second half, I believe the offensive rebounds were 8-2 PHI in the first half, which means they were 12-2 NY in the second half. that is some nice halftime adjustments by the Wood man.

  177. daJudge

    Unreason, I can’t even do a split, but you can call me “Bocephus”. Why didn’t Chandler play down the stretch if he wasn’t hurt? BTW, we should beat this team because we are better than they are both ends.

  178. jon abbey

    ugh, ATL totally steals a win. we’re not getting a lot of help, got to just keep winning.

  179. JC Knickfan

    Man hope JJ is not hurt. He defense+rebounding has been amazing and he the best flopper we have.

  180. Caleb

    drewbreez:
    Commissioning a cookie and a lollipop to Melo for his defense against Iggy. Typically, he owns Iggy on offense and defense

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/iguodan01.html

    This didn’t sound right but Carmelo has played pretty well against him, over 13 games.

    Lifetime average: 24.6 points on .456 shooting, 6.5 boards… 13 games against Iggy, a great defender: 26.1 points on .444 shooting, 7.3 boards.

    On the other side, Iggy’s gone from shooting .461 lifetime / 15.3 ppg, to .516 and 14.9 vs. Melo. Down in rebounds and assists.

  181. Unreason

    jon abbey: they’re focused right now

    Yes. And the pride is palpable. The earlier part of the season was such disappointment they seemed to feel like crap even when they were playing OK. The swag seemed fake like they were trying to believe they could live up to the expectations. The last couple of games they look different. Like they know what they can do.

  182. jon abbey

    daJudge:
    Unreason, I can’t even do a split, but you can call me “Bocephus”.Why didn’t Chandler play down the stretch if he wasn’t hurt?BTW, we should beat this team because we are better than they are both ends.

    matchups, PHI was playing four perimeter players and Amare was going great.

    as for being better, Hollinger had PHI as the third best team in the league coming into this game. they have a better scoring differential for the season than any team in the West, only behind CHI and MIA.

  183. JC Knickfan

    jon abbey:
    ugh, ATL totally steals a win. we’re not getting a lot of help, got to just keep winning.

    Can’t control what other team do. 19 games left – can we go 15-4?

  184. Frank O.

    Unreason: Yes. And the pride is palpable. The earlier part of the season was such disappointment they seemed to feel like crap even when they were playing OK. The swag seemed fake like they were trying to believe they could live up to the expectations. The last couple of games they look different. Like they know what they can do.

    And they’re playing this way without anger. Lots of joy out there…not to be too corny.
    The Ewing Knicks were angry dudes.

  185. jon abbey

    Unreason: Yes. And the pride is palpable. The earlier part of the season was such disappointment they seemed to feel like crap even when they were playing OK. The swag seemed fake like they were trying to believe they could live up to the expectations. The last couple of games they look different. Like they know what they can do.

    they’re in a position where they need to play every game like it’s game 7 of a playoff series, and they’ve been doing that so far. if they’d dropped a bit farther so they didn’t control their own destiny, this might have been tougher, but Woodson has gotten them to understand just how crucial every one of these games is.

  186. Caleb

    jon abbey:
    ugh, ATL totally steals a win. we’re not getting a lot of help, got to just keep winning.

    On the plus side, we’re only 3 back of Philly, and we have the tiebreaker…

  187. jon abbey

    JC Knickfan: Can’t control what other team do. 19 games left – can we go 15-4?

    I would say the answer is almost certainly no if you look at the schedule, but one game at a time. TOR up next.

  188. Gideon Zaga

    +1

    cgreene: And not to dance on a man’s grave bc I think MDA is a good dude but I can’t ever remember saying that a great strategic in game decision by him was something that won us or helped us win a game.Woodie recognized that he had a defensive advantage on more offensive fire power and slowed it down and won it with execution.

  189. Unreason

    daJudge: Unreason, I can’t even do a split, but you can call me “Bocephus”.

    I could be wrong, but I thought Babaji is a general purpose honorific and that it was often used when addressing Ghandi. Anyhow your quote was very funny.

  190. nicos

    No Chandler really opened up the paint for Lin in the fourth- you can’t sag too far off of Amar’e on those high screen and rolls. Nice gang rebounding by the guards- Shumpert with 8 boards, Smith and Lin with five each.

  191. massive

    You know, if you subscribe to Astrology, you’d see that D’Antoni is a Taurus. Taurus people (the fixed earth sign) are very set in their ways and have a laid-back demeanor, and you could see that in D’Antoni as a coach. No real in-game adjustments, not adjusting to his players, and D’Antoni has become notorious for being stubborn. I can’t really say I know Mike D’Antoni, but this stuff doesn’t come as a surprise to me, seeing that he’s a Taurus. Could be a load of BS, but I like to believe in it.

  192. massive

    jon abbey:
    who do we root for in BOS/MIL tomorrow? I guess MIL since we play them Monday?

    Yeah, and it’s impossible for me to root for the Celtics. Go Milwaukee.

  193. JC Knickfan

    nicos:
    No Chandler really opened up the paint for Lin in the fourth- you can’t sag too far off of Amar’e on those high screen and rolls.Nice gang rebounding by the guards- Shumpert with 8 boards, Smith and Lin with five each.

    Beside for Lin very concern about Knicks FT shooting.
    Defensive again just incredible. When was last Knick shot worst both FG% and 3pt% and won?

  194. JR Sec 112

    Yeah, tough loss by CLE. On the other hand, for them, kylie Irving is some player. MVP level talent. He’s smooth like cp3, but a better scorer. Hawks look really shaky now, which is good since we see them in atl next week.

    I’m much more worried about DET than TOR. They are actually playing well.

    Another key decision by woody was bringing Lin back beginning of q4. Realized bd had very little tonight and couldn’t afford a couple more minutes without Lin. I’d argue this game was won by woody. And stat of course…..

  195. Gideon Zaga

    Dancing on his grave. Who’s trading Melo now

    massive:
    You know, if you subscribe to Astrology, you’d see that D’Antoni is a Taurus. Taurus people (the fixed earth sign) are very set in their ways and have a laid-back demeanor, and you could see that in D’Antoni as a coach. No real in-game adjustments, not adjusting to his players, and D’Antoni has become notorious for being stubborn. I can’t really say I know Mike D’Antoni, but this stuff doesn’t come as a surprise to me, seeing that he’s a Taurus. Could be a load of BS, but I like to believe in it.

  196. Frank O.

    Damn. Yanks Sox tomorrow.
    Opening day April 4.
    Bucks playing well and Celts stumbling right now.

  197. Z-man

    I firmly believe that certain teams have piled up good records that really aren’t that good, Philly among these, Indiana as well. Atlanta and Orlando to a lesser degree. And the Celts have zero depth. Not that we are definitely better than them, but we are at least as good as any of those teams. I expect that in the home stretch, some of these teams will get exposed. Winning these five games without much offense from Melo is very encouraging.

    To win in Indiana and Philly is big, no question. But they have the cushion and aren’t as desperate as us. We still have a ways to go before we can talk seriously about the second round of the playoffs.

  198. Frank O.

    Lakers putting wood to Mavs right now.
    When was last time Kobe played with a point like sessions?

  199. Z-man

    I wonder if Melo is concentrating so har on playing full-time D that it’s throwing off his O. Graspin’ at straws!

  200. d-mar

    You know, you can see now why Chicago piles up so many wins, with and without Rose. When you play 4 quarters of balls out, in your face D, you crush the bad teams, and against the good teams, you have games like we had tonight.

  201. Unreason

    JR Sec 112: Another key decision by woody was bringing Lin back beginning of q4. Realized bd had very little tonight and couldn’t afford a couple more minutes without Lin.

    That was big. I was debating with myself as I watched bc though BD was off, Lin couldn’t throw it into the ocean in the first three quarters. But it was definitely the right move. Lin was a killer in the 4th.

  202. Z-man

    Except nobody worries about Battier going off for 50. Melo’s O ill come around, let’s cut him some slack while he hustles his ass off on D and the boards during a 5-game win streak.

  203. drewbreez

    Gideon Zaga:
    A very rich man’s Battier

    That’s what BBR is kinda-not-so-subtly saying with his Player Similarity Score. Or maybe a Richard Branson’s Mehmet Okur…if you’re into analogies. A Sultan of Brunei’s Hot Rod Williams. And so on. But WE all know he’s worth much much more than his current stock…right?

  204. bockadoo

    had to post on this awesome night. nothing to say other than i like the knicks and they’re a good team with as much talent and depth as anyone.

  205. Mulligan

    massive: Yeah, and it’s impossible for me to root for the Celtics. Go Milwaukee.

    Ha. I hear that, but I think it’s much more likely the Celtics fall apart (they’re old, no depth and have a killer schedule) anyway. If they manage to beat Milwaukee and give us a little more breathing room, I say go for it.

  206. JR Sec 112

    If melo can somehow find his shot and the defensive intensity continues, this run could be special. 10 or 11 in a row is not out of the question going into April.

  207. JC Knickfan

    Unreason: That was big. I was debating with myself as I watched bc though BD was off, Lin couldn’t throw it into the ocean in the first three quarters. But it was definitely the right move. Lin was a killer in the 4th.

    BD having 3 TO and taking 7 shot in 11 minutes – I’m glad Woodson know when to pull people. My one complaint about Lin tonight is seeing that Amare been hot offense, he really should tried to get the ball to him more. Melo panties might get bunch up if doesn’t get shoot, but seriously feed hot hand.

  208. BigBlueAL

    Milwaukee starts a 3 games in a row stretch tomorrow. Unfortunately after hosting Boston they go to Charlotte but then they go back home vs Indiana. Hopefully they go 1-2 but doubt it, most likely 2-1 especially if they win tomorrow.

  209. Z

    Mulligan: I think it’s much more likely the Celtics fall apart (they’re old, no depth and have a killer schedule) anyway.

    Every year people say the Celtics are about to fall apart, and every year they turn it on and finish strong. They are not going to miss the playoffs this year.

  210. Gideon Zaga

    I remember when some of y’all said we should trade Amare for Brand, how dumb do y’all look now, same way the trade Melo guys will look dumb soon. Fans! Smh

  211. art vandelay

    Ben Gordan has 45 points on 9-9 3-pointers along with 8 assists and 2 steals tonight against the Denver Farieds….what?

  212. Z

    Gideon Zaga:
    Iremember when some of y’all said we should trade Amare for Brand, how dumb do y’all look now…

    Uh, Brand’s contract comes off the books 2 years before Amar’e's. Not sure a few wins now is worth a lot of wins down the road, but that’s cool if you do.(Plus, Brand had 12 pts, 12 boards, and 5 blocks tonight… so it’s not like it would have even been a salary dump. (Which is exactly why Philly is glad they didn’t make that trade, not the other way around)).

  213. Gideon Zaga

    Fun fact: Carmelo Anthony and Tim Tebow, 2 players who shared the same number 15 got traded to the same city’s basketball and football teams respectively in controversial fashion. Stay classy New York. I like how we’re being friendly with Denver.

  214. BigBlueAL

    art vandelay:
    Ben Gordan has 45 points on 9-9 3-pointers along with 8 assists and 2 steals tonight against the Denver Farieds….what?

    Tied Spree’s record for most 3pters made in a game w/o a miss.

  215. Mulligan

    Z: Every year people say the Celtics are about to fall apart, and every year they turn it on and finish strong. They are not going to miss the playoffs this year.

    Boston plays Miami 3 times, Milwaukee 2 times, Atlanta 2 times, Philly 2 times and Chicago, San Antonio, Orlando and Indiana once. That’s pretty rough.

  216. Gideon Zaga

    Is that so? Check the paint points and see if Philly will or won’t do the trade now. Even hubie said it, they can’t rely on Brand consistently from the post, all his points were off drive and kicks.
    Yeah and Amares shot will start to fall too.

    Z: Uh, Brand’s contract comes off the books 2 years before Amar’e’s. Not sure a few wins now is worth a lot of wins down the road, but that’s cool if you do.(Plus, Brand had 12 pts, 12 boards, and 5 blocks tonight… so it’s not like it would have even been a salary dump. (Which is exactly why Philly is glad they didn’t make that trade, not the other way around)).

  217. BigBlueAL

    Mulligan: Boston plays Miami 3 times, Milwaukee 2 times, Atlanta 2 times, Philly 2 times and Chicago, San Antonio, Orlando and Indiana once. That’s pretty rough.

    Plus they play the Knicks once at MSG too.

  218. BigBlueAL

    Gideon Zaga:
    Is that so? Check the paint points and see if Philly will or won’t do the trade now. Even hubie said it, they can’t rely on Brand consistently from the post, all his points were off drive and kicks.
    Yeah and Amares shot will start to fall too.

    I bet my life Philly wouldnt trade Brand for Amar’e. No chance in hell. They cant wait for his contract to expire because it will give them a boatload of cap space in 2013.

  219. Z

    Gideon Zaga:
    Is that so? Check the paint points and see if Philly will or won’t do the trade now. Even hubie said it, they can’t rely on Brand consistently from the post, all his points were off drive and kicks.
    Yeah and Amares shot will start to fall too.

    I don’t think there is any chance that Philly would do that trade, especially based on one game. That is a Dolan move. Brand is a great asset to have– an enormous, soon-to-be-expiring, contract that is actually producing while he plays it out. We should be so lucky to have that in 2 years with Amar’e.

  220. ruruland

    Bruno Almeida: are we still having the “Melo will end up with a higher TS% than James Harden” debate or is that dead as it always should have been?

    defense was really awesome today, our offense looked pretty terrible but Philly is a very good defensive team, so that’s fine.

    That wasn’t the argument, fuck.

    Also, might be time to pipe down in the prediction department when you consider a few us saw this exact thing coming regarding team play. And yes, Melo will find it and find it in a major way.

  221. ruruland

    Z: I don’t think there is any chance that Philly would do that trade, especially based on one game. That is a Dolan move. Brand is a great asset to have– an enormous, soon-to-be-expiring, contract that is actually producing while he plays it out. We should be so lucky to have that in 2 years with Amar’e.

    Why are we even talking about this? It’s okay to simply enjoy the now. just celebreate it. You don’t know when it will all come together like this again, knock on wood.

  222. Z

    ruruland: Why are we even talking about this?

    Because of this:

    Gideon Zaga:
    Iremember when some of y’all said we should trade Amare for Brand, how dumb do y’all look now

    I’m okay with being called dumb, but I not by people that don’t seem very smart themselves.

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