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Tuesday, September 2, 2014

2012-13 Game Thread: Sixers at Knicks

Have at it, ye daylight-spending time dogs!

117 comments on “2012-13 Game Thread: Sixers at Knicks

  1. Juany8

    Knicks still moving the ball extremely well, Brewer and Kidd make this offense move so smoothly. It’s a shame that Brewer can’t shoot, although if he could the Knicks wouldn’t have picked him up for the mid level lol

  2. Bruno Almeida

    man, it’s insane how much this team needed smart, savvy players like Kidd and Brewer…

    Melo with a great start too.

  3. johnlocke

    He actually shoots that corner three at a respectable rate. I’m really impressed with Kidd’s defending.

    Juany8:
    Knicks still moving the ball extremely well, Brewer and Kidd make this offense move so smoothly. It’s a shame that Brewer can’t shoot, although if he could the Knicks wouldn’t have picked him up for the mid level lol

  4. EB

    Juany8:
    Knicks still moving the ball extremely well, Brewer and Kidd make this offense move so smoothly. It’s a shame that Brewer can’t shoot, although if he could the Knicks wouldn’t have picked him up for the mid level lol

    I don’t even think it was for the mid-level, wasn’t it for like the vet min? Insane

  5. Bruno Almeida

    JK47:
    Ronnie Brewer is a massive upgrade over Landry Fields.He does that low-usage glue guy thing very well.

    it’s no contest, really.

    Brewer is perfectly aware of his limitations and plays within himself, while Fields loved to try stuff that was obviously out of his set of abilities.

    some sloppy passing right now, we need the ball in Prigioni’s hands.

  6. Juany8

    EB: I don’t even think it was for the mid-level, wasn’t it for like the vet min? Insane

    Yea I typed it wrong it was for the vet min lol. I have to say, Felton looks really good. I’ve been watching every game for both the rockets and Knicks, and while Lin is the clear cut better player, I legitimately think Felton is a better fit for this team, partly because he’s more steady running the offense. Lin is a nice scorer, but this team needed a distributor/penetrator more than anything, and Felton is certainly a better shooter than Lin. Since this team doesn’t have a James Harden who can take over as a second point guard, having Felton will probably benefit the team more overall, at least for this year

  7. yellowboy90

    Bruno Almeida: it’s no contest, really.

    Brewer is perfectly aware of his limitations and plays within himself, while Fields loved to try stuff that was obviously out of his set of abilities.

    some sloppy passing right now, we need the ball in Prigioni’s hands.

    The thing that really has me intrigued when it comes to Brewer is that he is not even in good shape yet. I can’t wait after a few weeks when he has played himself into shape.

  8. d-mar

    Bruno Almeida:
    awesome job by Kurt now, god, I forgot how good it is to have clever players on your team.

    The Knicks team IQ has doubled from last season

    Subtract – Douglas, Fields, Davis

    Add – Kidd, Thomas, Brewer

    Big upgrade in court smarts

  9. Juany8

    Bruno Almeida:
    awesome job by Kurt now, god, I forgot how good it is to have clever players on your team.

    This is why the front office got veterans instead of unproven rookies, it’s so much easier to get everyone to buy in and play smart all the time. Everyone is playing smart basketball right now, especially when Kidd is in the game. Obviously you’re going to have some… sub-optimal shots by Melo, JR, and Felton, but every single team in the league has players who take silly shots, as long as the ball and players are consistently moving it shouldn’t matter.

  10. johnlocke

    With JR’s handle and athleticism he should be among the leaders at FTA for a 2 guard…but he loves shooting long jumpers too much. Just don’t get it.

    Juany8: This is why the front office got veterans instead of unproven rookies, it’s so much easier to get everyone to buy in and play smart all the time. Everyone is playing smart basketball right now, especially when Kidd is in the game. Obviously you’re going to have some… sub-optimal shots by Melo, JR, and Felton, but every single team in the league has players who take silly shots, as long as the ball and players are consistently moving it shouldn’t matter.

  11. Nick C.

    Still loving this team, the movement and saviness. I didn’t fully take that into account regarding the acquisitions. On a silly note : was that Clyde’s first “vascillating pace” of the season?

  12. Bruno Almeida

    d-mar: The Knicks team IQ has doubled from last season

    Subtract – Douglas, Fields, Davis

    Add – Kidd, Thomas, Brewer

    Big upgrade in court smarts

    yeah, it’s pretty awesome, I love it.

    yellowboy90: The thing that really has me intrigued when it comes to Brewer is that he is not even in good shape yet. I can’t wait after a few weeks when he has played himself into shape.

    yeah, and when Shumpert is back they’ll be a hellish backcourt on D.

  13. Juany8

    Camby should help this team a fair bit too, Thomas is playing nice but Camby is much better rim defender at this point. It was nice to have both as injury/foul insurance though, both Thomas and Camby should give solid, if limited, players all year. Big upgrade over Jared Jeffries and Jorts in my opinion.

  14. Bruno Almeida

    JK47:
    Ray Felton: 9 FGA, 0 assists.Not really what you want from him.

    yeah, I saw that… but ball movement has been very good, and many of those shots has been wide open 3′s, like the one he missed before the timeout, those are acceptable shots…

    I wouldn’t read too much into it, imo.

  15. Juany8

    I gotta say, it’s time to start THANKING Melo for getting D’Antoni run out of town. Woodson is a monstrously better coach, it’s not remotely close. Keep in mind that Nash’s best playoff run came without D’Antoni, the guy is an offensive coordinator and that’s it

  16. BigBlueAL

    Juany8:
    I gotta say, it’s time to start THANKING Melo for getting D’Antoni run out of town. Woodson is a monstrously better coach, it’s not remotely close. Keep in mind that Nash’s best playoff run came without D’Antoni, the guy is an offensive coordinator and that’s it

    Yeah, no.

  17. DRed

    That was a pretty impressive half. The ball movement is so much better than it was last year, and we have a lot of players with quick hands on D now.

  18. thenoblefacehumper

    Pretty sure MSG just went out of it’s way to try and not show what number was on Edie Falco’s son’s jersey. ‘Twas number 17.

  19. The Infamous Cdiggy

    JK47:
    Wow, great half by NYK.Good ball movement and very heady defensive play.Impressive.

    Indeed. Ball movement is good. Interior D is a lil lacking when Philly penetrates w/the dribble. I think I’m really liking Melo operating on the blocks.

  20. Kurt

    Definitely agree. I think it was stupid that people were debating D’Antoni’s “system” and if it works. The real question should have been D’Antoni as coach.

    I think I mentioned this before, but notice that D’Antoni was most successful as an ASSISTANT coach on the USA team. I think he’s really more suited to be a Tex Winter/Del Harris-type wise assistant, not a head coach.

    Juany8:
    I gotta say, it’s time to start THANKING Melo for getting D’Antoni run out of town. Woodson is a monstrously better coach, it’s not remotely close. Keep in mind that Nash’s best playoff run came without D’Antoni, the guy is an offensive coordinator and that’s it

  21. Kurt

    You’ll notice that teams like the Heat and Spurs are using D’Antoni’s principles, just that they’re being implemented by better head coaches.

  22. rohank

    Hey. I have no power or Internet. I’m on my phone. I can access radio but can’t find the game. Some football game is on 98.7 espn radio. PLEASE can anyone tell me where I can listen to the game? Thanks in advance!

  23. Gideon Zaga

    JR smith should focus on being a spot up shooter, im sorry. He sucks at everything else except that and penetration.

  24. d-mar

    In a seven game playoff series, if we can get the good JR in game 1, that means bad JR in games 2,4,6 and good JR in games 1,3,5,7. I’ll sign up for that!

  25. Gideon Zaga

    Oh men when Amar’e comes back he and Prigioni are gonna be such a dynamic duo. I see Kurt missing wide open after wide open shot.

  26. Frank O.

    JR having a game.
    Dear Knicks:
    I do not expect an undefeated season. Just don’t get my hopes up and then revert to your old bad ways.
    As it stands right now, I love our guards.

  27. Juany8

    Knicks are playing great defense without playing Tyson Chandler serious minutes. That’s a fantastic sign going forward.

  28. llcoolbp

    I’m at work right now so can’t watch this. Following along with all your comments has been fun. Can’t wait to watch this on league pass archive when I get home. That is, unless, they blow it.

    Been a fan of jason kidd all the way back to his college days. There was an article in the new york times, I believe, when he was in college about how high his bball IQ is. They said he would turn it up and down based on how hard his opponent was breathing, or something to that effect. How he really understood the nuances of the game, even in college. He’s a once in a lifetime player. If we could squeeze one more season of mileage out of him, then I would take that in a heartbeat.

  29. Bruno Almeida

    llcoolbp:
    I’m at work right now so can’t watch this. Following along with all your comments has been fun. Can’t wait to watch this on league pass archive when I get home. That is, unless, they blow it.

    Been a fan of jason kidd all the way back to his college days. There was an article in the new york times, I believe, when he was in college about how high his bball IQ is. They said he would turn it up and down based on how hard his opponent was breathing, or something to that effect. How he really understood the nuances of the game, even in college. He’s a once in a lifetime player. If we could squeeze one more season of mileage out of him, then I would take that in a heartbeat.

    man, if his play in this first two games is any indication, he still has a lot left in his tank.

  30. Juany8

    2 wire to wire blowouts over teams likely to make the Eastern conference. This season could be a lot of fun

  31. The Infamous Cdiggy

    Good, good win! Knicks played a solid floor game today. You can see how the team’s b’ball IQ has severely increased.

  32. johnlocke

    Jason Kidd was the MVP for me for that game…just made all kinds of plays and reads, not all of which were captured by the box score

  33. JK47

    Really strong defensive performance today, especially considering a flu-ridden Tyson Chandler only played 21 quiet minutes. Great job harassing the 76er ballhandlers, causing turnovers without committing fouls.

    Nick “Brick” Young was a whopping -29 in that game.

  34. d-mar

    What I liked about this game is that the Knicks came out focused and with a sense of purpose right from the start. This could have been one of those letdown games after the big Heat win, but I give credit to Woody for having them ready. How many times last year did we have to listen to D’Antoni say after a game: “I can’t explain it, we just weren’t ready to play.” or “Give them credit (the other team) they’re good”? This just seems like a team that’s all on the same page and playing very smart basketball. A lot of that is due to guys like Kidd and Brewer, and of course Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Smith.

  35. jon abbey

    yeah, Kidd was great. Felton and Prigioni less so, but the good JR Smith makes up for a lot of defiiciencies elsewhere. I loved Melo’s effort on both ends, although I’d like to see Woodson somehow get him a bit more rest (39 minutes) with another game tomorrow.

    also Sheed looked great in semi-garbage time, would like to see him get a few first half minutes tomorrow. only 21 minutes from Chandler and an easy wire-to-wire win against a solid team (admittedly without Bynum/Richardson), gotta like that.

  36. max fisher-cohen

    I have to say the most important quality that Kidd brings to this team is his willingness to keep the offense diverse. What allows him to do this is his resume more than anything. No one’s going to challenge a Kidd decision, not even Melo.

    This game went about as expected though. Without Bynum, the Sixers are not a good team, and losing Richardson was a big blow to them not so much because he’s great but because Nick Young is so bad. They also really miss Lou Williams’ ability to create. When your team resorts to Dorrell Wright isolations, you probably aren’t very good. I’d say the roster we played tonight would make for about a 20 win team.

    Also, Evan Turner did a good impression of Landry Fields tonight. #1 and 2 from that 2010 draft both major disappointments.

  37. ruruland

    max fisher-cohen:
    I have to say the most important quality that Kidd brings to this team is his willingness to keep the offense diverse. What allows him to do this is his resume more than anything. No one’s going to challenge a Kidd decision, not even Melo.

    This game went about as expected though. Without Bynum, the Sixers are not a good team, and losing Richardson was a big blow to them not so much because he’s great but because Nick Young is so bad. They also really miss Lou Williams’ ability to create. When your team resorts to Dorrell Wright isolations, you probably aren’t very good. I’d say the roster we played tonight would make for about a 20 win team.

    Also, Evan Turner did a good impression of Landry Fields tonight. #1 and 2 from that 2010 draft both major disappointments.

    lol. They beat the mighty Denver Nuggets on opening night, handily.

    Glad people are finally hopping on the Kidd bandwagon.

    This team is going to be great with Amar’e, Shumpert and Camby.

    I actually think Amar’e will eventually start scoring at Phoenix rates with the spacing and movement this team has. There are plenty of lineups he’ll work well in.

  38. johnlocke

    Other Kidd observations:
    He’s a very, very good defender.
    He almost always seems to make the right play (inbound pass to JR for 3 while Sixers distracted, steal and pass to Melo to close the half, etc etc etc)
    Knocking down open shots so far
    Passing is ridiculously accurate
    And yes, can look off Melo, without Melo throwing a hissy fit

    max fisher-cohen:
    I have to say the most important quality that Kidd brings to this team is his willingness to keep the offense diverse. What allows him to do this is his resume more than anything. No one’s going to challenge a Kidd decision, not even Melo.

  39. knicknyk

    Felton didn’t play well today at all. 11 points on 10 shots with like 1 assist and 4 turnovers. Prig didn’t play well either seems like he is still adjusting to NBA length and athleticism. Kidd was good & Melo at the 4 is so much better defensively than Melo at the 3.

  40. The Infamous Cdiggy

    box score says 18 assists on 39 made baskets. definitely deceiving asst numbers; this team moved the ball.

  41. RastaPappa

    max fisher-cohen:
    I have to say the most important quality that Kidd brings to this team is his willingness to keep the offense diverse. What allows him to do this is his resume more than anything. No one’s going to challenge a Kidd decision, not even Melo.

    +1 Jason is DA MAN! And maybe he’s the man who says to Melo: Shut the f**k up and play. Now we have a guy who doesn’t kiss Melo’s ass. Go KNICKS!

  42. efreeg

    great point ! makes a huge difference. Thats why the lakers have improved by getting rid of that cry baby Bynum

    d-mar: The Knicks team IQ has doubled from last seasonSubtract – Douglas, Fields, DavisAdd – Kidd, Thomas, BrewerBig upgrade in court smarts

  43. massive

    A few comments:

    1) You have to love the intensity this Coach Woodson Knicks team brings every night. Last year, I remember watching us lose to an inferior Philadelphia team on a Sunday afternoon because D’Antoni couldn’t get the guys to come out ready. I know it has only been two games, but the Knicks do not come out flat anymore. Under Woodson, I feel much more secure against middling teams like Milwaukee and Cleveland because we will not play down to our competition. For once we have consistency and competence.

    2) Does anybody else think Mike Woodson is the perfect coach for JR Smith and Carmelo Anthony? Guys like George Karl, Mike D’Antoni, and Byron Scott seem to be “my way or the highway” type of coaches. While their way may be best for the overall team, it only seems to work with high-character guys like Nash, Stoudemire, Chris Paul, Chauncey Billups, etc. Woodson seems much more able to reach these guys and get them to play his way most of the game, and I think that’s due to his ability to be compromising while ruling with an iron fist. Karl and D’Antoni seem to be too laid back for Anthony and JR, while Byron Scott seemed to be too emotional to reach JR Smith. Either way, I love the command Woodson has over this team.

  44. efreeg

    ya not a big fan of prig. he throws cross court passes that would be picked off by high school teams. i kno he played well during the preseason but i cant see him getting any minuets when shump comes back to the line up. Our back up shooting guards are better ball handlers then Prig. Until he starts losing games for us i guess i cant hate to much…

    knicknyk: Felton didn’t play well today at all. 11 points on 10 shots with like 1 assist and 4 turnovers. Prig didn’t play well either seems like he is still adjusting to NBA length and athleticism. Kidd was good & Melo at the 4 is so much better defensively than Melo at the 3.

  45. ruruland

    johnlocke:
    Other Kidd observations:
    He’s a very, very good defender.
    He almost always seems to make the right play (inbound pass to JR for 3 while Sixers distracted, steal and pass to Melo to close the half, etc etc etc)
    Knocking down open shots so far
    Passing is ridiculously accurate
    And yes, can look off Melo, without Melo throwing a hissy fit

    Yep. And he did all of those things last year.
    He’ll be even better with Amar’e on the floor.

  46. flossy

    efreeg:
    great point ! makes a huge difference. Thats why the lakers have improved by getting rid of that cry baby Bynum

    You mean the Lakers team that has yet to win a game?

  47. ruruland

    massive:
    A few comments:

    1) You have to love the intensity this Coach Woodson Knicks team brings every night. Last year, I remember watching us lose to an inferior Philadelphia team on a Sunday afternoon because D’Antoni couldn’t get the guys to come out ready. I know it has only been two games, but the Knicks do not come out flat anymore. Under Woodson, I feel much more secure against middling teams like Milwaukee and Cleveland because we will not play down to our competition. For once we have consistency and competence.

    2) Does anybody else think Mike Woodson is the perfect coach for JR Smith and Carmelo Anthony? Guys like George Karl, Mike D’Antoni, and Byron Scott seem to be “my way or the highway” type of coaches. While their way may be best for the overall team, it only seems to work with high-character guys like Nash, Stoudemire, Chris Paul, Chauncey Billups, etc. Woodson seems much more able to reach these guys and get them to play his way most of the game, and I think that’s due to his ability to be compromising while ruling with an iron fist. Karl and D’Antoni seem to be too laid back for Anthony and JR, while Byron Scott seemed to be too emotional to reach JR Smith. Either way, I love the command Woodson has over this team.

    Did you read the piece in New York Magazine?

  48. flossy

    Kurt:
    You’ll notice that teams like the Heat and Spurs are using D’Antoni’s principles, just that they’re being implemented by better head coaches.

    You’ll notice that teams like the Heat and Spurs are using D’Antoni’s principles, just that they’re being implemented by better players

    Fixed that for you

  49. massive

    ruruland: Did you read the piece in New York Magazine?

    No, I didn’t even know there was a piece in NY Mag lol. Can you give me a link for it?

  50. RastaPappa

    Massive is right I think. Melo and Jr need the coach, I mean the real coach who says what to do. Melo is not the leader, he’s a really good player. And that is what we need. Maybe we have little change this year.

  51. jon abbey

    this team is almost better with 1-2 guys out (as long as they’re not Melo or Chandler or maybe JR Smith), good luck to Woodson parceling out the minutes if everyone is healthy.

  52. ruruland

    flossy: You’ll notice that teams like the Heat and Spurs are using D’Antoni’s principles, just that they’re being implemented by better players

    Fixed that for you

    Woodson’s offense is similar to MDA’s, but he’s actually adapting things to fit his players skills.

    So sick of talking about D’Antoni. Good riddance.

  53. RastaPappa

    jon abbey:
    this team is almost better with 1-2 guys out (as long as they’re not Melo or Chandler or maybe JR Smith), good luck to Woodson parceling out the minutes if everyone is healthy.

    That’s what came in mind too.

  54. flossy

    ruruland: Woodson’s offense is similar to MDA’s, but he’s actually adapting things to fit his players skills.

    So sick of talking about D’Antoni. Good riddance.

    Feel free to abstain

  55. johnlocke

    Well Carmelo defends PFs better than Amare for starters… we’ll see. Good problem to have though

    jon abbey:
    this team is almost better with 1-2 guys out (as long as they’re not Melo or Chandler or maybe JR Smith), good luck to Woodson parceling out the minutes if everyone is healthy.

  56. flossy

    ruruland: Should we start this again?I had a feeling you showed up for a reason.

    You replied to my comment (which wasn’t directed at you) to comment on a subject, to the effect that you were tired of talking about it. Don’t reply to me if you don’t want to, and don’t comment about things you’re tired of talking about. See? How easy is that!

  57. ruruland

    Another thing I liked about today was the Knicks scored completely differently than they did Friday.

    Felton was very good early, but the Knicks were not getting open shots because of trapped pnr.

  58. ephus

    Went to the game with my nine-year-old daughter, who requested (and received) a Novak jersey — or “Mr. 3 Pointer” as she calls him.

    I was tremendously impressed with ‘Melo’s defense and hustle. He accepted the switch onto the ball at least five times by my count and forced his man into bad shots or steals. His play leaping the 76ers bench was pure hustle and fired everyone up. One other great ‘Melo moment was his assist to Felton in the first half. By demanding the double team and then kicking the ball to Felton for the open 3, he helped to open himself up for the rest of the game. The offense was nice, but the defense was golden.

    JR Smith had an awesome shooting day beyond the arc, which was important because he has to supply a lot of the offense beyond ‘Melo right now.

  59. ephus

    This is the sort of intensity that I hope to always see from ‘Melo.

    The 3-headed point guard seems to be working. Prigioni is adverse to shooting, and he has to learn how to manage the end of an NBA quarter, but he is a strong distributor. Jason Kidd is awesome, but his minutes have to be limited. Felton looked very good.

    On the Philadelphia side, they have NO offense other than “Let Jrue do it.” It is the Lou Williams offense, without Lou Williams. I saw no ball movement, no PnR developement and no low post game. Without Bynum, they are a 25 win team.

  60. Brian Cronin

    What a start to the season! I am loving this. Very, very awesome stuff. Like I said during the offseason, I love the idea of just having a Knicks team that I’m confident will be in every game. That alone is a blast for me. These blowout wins are just icing on the cake!

  61. Bruno Almeida

    ephus:
    This is the sort of intensity that I hope to always see from ‘Melo.

    The 3-headed point guard seems to be working.Prigioni is adverse to shooting, and he has to learn how to manage the end of an NBA quarter, but he is a strong distributor.Jason Kidd is awesome, but his minutes have to be limited.Felton looked very good.

    On the Philadelphia side, they have NO offense other than “Let Jrue do it.”It is the Lou Williams offense, without Lou Williams.I saw no ball movement, no PnR developement and no low post game.Without Bynum, they are a 25 win team.

    I agree, they are not good, but the Knicks were pretty good nonetheless.

    by the way, Holliday impressed me a lot, if Bynum comes back well and Turner ever shows signs of life (unlikely), Jrue Holliday might blossom into a true star… he has the size and the ability, it seems.

  62. knicknyk

    I find it odd that people were impressed by Jrue. He hit a lot of 3′s but he was always a good 3 point shooter. He had like 5 assits and 5 turnovers. His issue was always his ability to run an offense & his ability to finish at the rim & he isn’t a particularly creative passer. he seems a little bit more in control out there but jrue is still kind of meh to me. he is really young so will get better.

    Also Felton had a pretty poor game as well, same with Prig, surprised people think differently.

  63. ruruland

    Actually, that is the Doug Collins offense. AI was not the first to be frustrated the lack of creativity and freedom. Now, some of that is personnel related of course. Bynum is good for them not just because of rim protection and scoring, but because the 76ers are already deliberate and will certainly function much better with a focal/inside-out point.

    I’d expect Bynum’s usage to go way up, and average well into the 20s if he is ever healthy.

    Let’s remember that the 76ers are still a very good defensive team. The Knicks, who were maybe going 75-80% after opening up an early double digit (another trademark of smart players that understand the need to conserve energy over a full season, see Spurs/Pistons/Mavericks) were pretty damn efficient once again.

    You can imagine how good the offense will be when Amar’e gets back, and you can see how wellhe’ll fit into what the Knicks are doing, in all likelihood a 24-28 minute role where he gets a few minutes at center with Melo at the 4.

    Melo played center today, even with a rather slow perimeter defense.you see that when even an undersized and somewhat slow team plays together on the proverbial string, they’re good enough to stay on the court together until the opponent adjusts.

    Wallace looked like he’s going to start playing. I’d be shocked if he didn’t get 5-10 minutes Monday in the competitive portions.

    I really like how Prig keeps the continuity in the offense going, but eventually this team’s passing and ball movement will be so habitual that he’ll be overpassed for minutes by a better player — Iman Shumpert.

    I have a hard time imagining this starting lineup changing again throughout the season, which will mean you’ll have far and away the best offensive bench in the NBA with Novak, Amar’e and Smith. Adding Camby and Shumpert to the mix on top of that? Shit, that’s cray.

  64. ruruland

    knicknyk:
    I find it odd that people were impressed by Jrue. He hit a lot of 3?s but he was always a good 3 point shooter. He had like 5 assits and 5 turnovers. His issue was always his ability to run an offense & his ability to finish at the rim & he isn’t a particularly creative passer. he seems a little bit more in control out there but jrue is still kind of meh to me. he is really young so will get better.

    Also Felton had a pretty poor game as well, same with Prig, surprised people think differently.

    Felton was very good early but stopped attacking in the second quarter.

    The offense was very low energy/methodical in that second half, and Felton is not a good player when his motor doesn’t go.

    MDA wore him down here, which is why keeping his minutes around 26-30 when the team is fully healthy and ensuring he is in full-out attack mode is important.

    let’s hope the flu hasn’t spread.

    to reach 56-60 wins Knicks need to go

    90% against bad teams
    70% average teams (1-0)
    50% good teams (1-0)

  65. @Efreeg

    flossy: You mean the Lakers team that has yet to win a game?

    yes that lakers team. but imagine if they were winless with bynum. he would be running his mouth, instead hes gone and everyone is staying out of panic mode. they are too good to keep losing. dont forget the first year of the big 3, give them a second to get it together. but i gurrentie they will, and that theyll make the playoffs. read my article about there early struggles @ http://freegsportsbizz.blogspot.com/

  66. ruruland

    “They’re very tough to defend. They’re playing really good defense,” Philadelphia coach Doug Collins said. “It’s a very difficult team to play because they can post or they can spread you and they really move the ball really well. They’re playing very unselfish basketball.”

  67. BigBlueAL

    Difference between these Knicks and the Knicks that finished last season is simple:

    Kidd/Felton/Prigs/Brewer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BD/Bibby/TD/Fields

  68. maxwell_3g

    BigBlueAL:
    Difference between these Knicks and the Knicks that finished last season is simple:

    Kidd/Felton/Prigs/Brewer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BD/Bibby/TD/Fields

    i think you could put about any 4 names on the left side of that post and it would still be true

  69. BigBlueAL

    maxwell_3g: i think you could put about any 4 names on the left side of that post and it would still be true

    LOL true but those 4 are specifically replacing the other 4 so the comparison is warranted IMO.

  70. JK47

    The 76ers had zero interior presence in this game. They were mainly using the 6’9 Lavoy Allen at C and 6’8″ Thaddeus Young at PF. Spencer Hawes, their only legit available big man, got into foul trouble and played only 15 minutes. The end result was that the Knicks were 18 for 27 in the paint.

    It should be interesting to see if the Knicks can complete the home-and-home sweep, because the Sixers looked pretty feeble out there today.

  71. Juany8

    JK47:
    The 76ers had zero interior presence in this game.They were mainly using the 6’9 Lavoy Allen at C and 6’8? Thaddeus Young at PF.Spencer Hawes, their only legit available big man, got into foul trouble and played only 15 minutes.The end result was that the Knicks were 18 for 27 in the paint.

    It should be interesting to see if the Knicks can complete the home-and-home sweep, because the Sixers looked pretty feeble out there today.

    This same team blew out the Nuggets a few days ago. Besides, contenders blow out mediocre to bad teams. The Knicks have been by far the best team in the league so far, obviously they have to maintain it for a while more they can truly be considered elite.

    That being said, the Knicks are literally the only team in the league that can play “small” (Melo or Novak at the 4) without giving up interior defense, excellent picks, or a post offense because of Chandler and Camby/Thomas/Wallace. Melo also becomes an elite defender when he doesn’t have to worry about chasing around shooters, by far his biggest defensive weakness. Other than Lebron, Melo is also by far the best passing 4 in the league, and he somehow remains capable of posting up against bigger players that you would think would give him more trouble.

    The Knicks are playing team offense and defense the way only the truly elite teams do. I am worried about them maintaining that over a full season, especially if Amar’e comes back and insists to start. If he’s just standing around on defense and not boxing out, it kills any chance of being truly elite against teams that know how to exploit that.

  72. Juany8

    I’d also like to remind everyone that last years Knicks lost to the Bobcats, the same Bobcats team that lost to Miami on a buzzer beater. Even the worst NBA team of all time needs to be taken seriously.

  73. JK47

    This same team blew out the Nuggets a few days ago. Besides, contenders blow out mediocre to bad teams.

    Yeah, I agree. I wasn’t trying to minimize their accomplishment. They took advantage of the 76ers’ flaws and got an easy W.

  74. d-mar

    I really don’t want to hear that Miami was disengaged and Philly was missing their best player and the future HOFer Jason Richardson. We are missing our 2nd best scoring option and our best perimeter defender, and we won both games wire to wire. God forbid If we had lost those 2 games, the sports media would be crucifying NY.

    All that being said, no excuse for not winning the next 3 games. A 5-0 start would be very sweet.

  75. Thomas B.

    I’m interested to see how noted Knicks hater Mark Stein will keep NY out of the top 15 in his power rankings.

  76. nicos

    Man, having Kidd on the weak side rather than Fields is such a gigantic difference- his ability to take advantage of rotating defenses (and against two of the best rotate/recover teams in the league) is amazing.

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