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Tuesday, October 21, 2014

2012-13 Game Thread: Knicks vs. Pistons

The Knicks take on the Pistons for the first time since their match in London. That game was Iman Shumpert’s first game of the season and he played very well. Let’s hope that Shump gets up for playing the Pistons again.

A Knicks win and a Heat loss would put the Knicks into first place in the Eastern Conference (sadly too late to get Mike Woodson a gig as the Eastern Conference coach in the All-Star Game).

Let’s go Knicks!

61 comments on “2012-13 Game Thread: Knicks vs. Pistons

  1. hegotgame

    So, so, so wonderful to see the knicks shooting set-shots off of good ball movement. Getting this going early is just going to have the Pistons running ragged by the time 2nd half comes round.

    Melo is just ridiculous of the set-shots though, can’t believe people think KD is a better shooter. Not scorer, shooter. If Melo tries to get himself a higher percentage of nice set shots instead of iso’s this team would be humming. I think that will be down to Felton’s orchestration and continued inside domination by Stat n Amare.

    Let’s hope we can continue to figure out this teams balance and reach the potential we had imagined earlier this season. First off is taking care of this cake-walk to the allstar game. #leggo

  2. Owen

    T-1000 needs a software update.

    Awesome to watch Drummond. He looks like he will be a very divisive topic of discussion for years to come….

  3. hegotgame

    Douglas:
    Nice to see Shump on Calderon. He belongs on the ball.

    I noticed that as well. Very glad. lets hope this will be the start of a trend.

    Also, whats good with Tyson?? missed a bunch of bunnies and been a little lethargic on D and in transition…

  4. d-mar

    The Knicks are methodically dismantling the Pistons. Very early, but we just look like a way better team.

  5. BigBlueAL

    This is looking like the November Knicks with the bonus of having Amar’e and Shump. The schedule has helped alot too but still this is some beautiful basketball to watch.

  6. hegotgame

    Cant believe Prigs launched(and made!) that off-the dribble threes. I was genuinely surprised. Its like hes been setting up that moment all season long, lulling us all into the false belief that he would never even think to shoot with a defender so much as 10ft close to him.

    Well done prigs, well done.

  7. jon abbey

    Amar’e isn’t getting credit for all of his blocked shots so far this year, ruru and I have both talked about this before.

  8. d-mar

    This idea that the Knicks are too dependent on the 3 point shot is just dumb. Sure, they’re 9-16 tonight, but those are all good open looks created by great ball movement. I’ll take an open 3 from Melo, JR or Kidd any day of the week.

  9. BigBlueAL

    d-mar:
    This idea that the Knicks are too dependent on the 3 point shot is just dumb. Sure, they’re 9-16 tonight, but those are all good open looks created by great ball movement. I’ll take an open 3 from Melo, JR or Kidd any day of the week.

    As Breen shockingly mentioned since he always complains about too many 3pters, if you lead the league in makes and attempts from out there and are also 2nd in % yeah its a pretty good thing to shoot alot of them.

  10. Juany8

    It’s awesome to watch the Knicks just dismantle lesser teams. This will be the 4th double digit win in a row for the Knicks. It was mostly against bad teams, but they did beat the Bucks and Hawks since Felton got back. With Felton and Amar’e nobody has to take a bunch of contested isos when the offense bogs down anymore. They can just switch to a different option lol

  11. Nick C.

    He only has 10 so I take it you mean there should be more but whoever credits such things is missing them?

    jon abbey:
    Amar’e isn’t getting credit for all of his blocked shots so far this year, ruru and I have both talked about this before.

  12. jon abbey

    Nick C.:
    He only has 10 so I take it you mean there should be more but whoever credits such things is missing them?

    yes, exactly, thanks for the clarification.

  13. ruruland

    Nick C.: He only has 10 so I take it you mean there should be more but whoever credits such things is missing them?

    The Knicks home state keepers are pretty shitty.

    Sometimes I think it’s Jowles. Chandler often gets credited for an extra rebound on defense he doesn’t get, and there have been at least 3 occasions when he missed a shot that wasn’t credited to him, but naturally, Melo.

    They’ve missed a bunch of blocks and steals, too.

  14. jon abbey

    he’s missed some point blank finishes on offense, but Chandler’s energy since being selected to the All-Star team (and since Woodson told him to “play like an All-Star”) has been incredible. again, I don’t blame him for not bringing it like this every game, I think he’s too old to do that, but the difference when he does bring his A game is night and day.

  15. The Honorable Cock Jowles

    You seem to forget that I’m not the one with a Precious — you know, an ax to grind for my favorite player, for whom I’ve moved from a Nuggets blog to a Knicks blog to sing the praises of.

    I don’t have anything personally against your Precious; I just don’t think he’s a superstar in this league. You mad?

    I want to reiterate the point that the people who hate WP48 for being a linear metric use WS48 because it passes the eyetest “better” than the former. Come on.

  16. jon abbey

    The Honorable Cock Jowles:

    I want to reiterate the point that the people who hate WP48 for being a linear metric use WS48 because it passes the eyetest “better” than the former. Come on.

    I don’t hate WP48 for being a linear metric, I hate it for being an idiotic statistic that bears little relation to anything.

  17. ruruland

    jon abbey: he’s missed some point blank finishes on offense, but Chandler’s energy since being selected to the All-Star team (and since Woodson told him to “play like an All-Star”) has been incredible. again, I don’t blame him for not bringing it like this every game, I think he’s too old to do that, but the difference when he does bring his A game is night and day.

    I didn’t know he had this in him. Imagine if this is the guy we get in the playoffs.

  18. The Honorable Cock Jowles

    jon abbey: I don’t hate WP48 for being a linear metric, I hate it for being an idiotic statistic that bears little relation to anything.

    Well-said. [claps]

  19. ruruland

    Juany8: It’s awesome to watch the Knicks just dismantle lesser teams. This will be the 4th double digit win in a row for the Knicks. It was mostly against bad teams, but they did beat the Bucks and Hawks since Felton got back. With Felton and Amar’e nobody has to take a bunch of contested isos when the offense bogs down anymore. They can just switch to a different option lol

    It’s the kind of diversity where the offense should never stall.

  20. maxwell_3g

    Dr. Hopla…..paging Dr. Hopla….you ar needed to perform emergency procedures on patient Kidd

  21. jon abbey

    ruruland: I didn’t know he had this in him.Imagine if this is the guy we get in the playoffs.

    yes, you did, you saw the Finals two years ago.

  22. Thomas B.

    ruruland: I didn’t know he had this in him.Imagine if this is the guy we get in the playoffs.

    He isn’t going to play against the Magic, Bucks, Kings, or Pistons in the playoffs. Well, maybe the Bucks

  23. jon abbey

    Thomas B.: He isn’t going to play against the Magic, Bucks, Kings, or Pistons in the playoffs.Well, maybe the Bucks

    he can do this against anyone, in terms of D and rebounding.

  24. ruruland

    Thomas B.: He isn’t going to play against the Magic, Bucks, Kings, or Pistons in the playoffs. Well, maybe the Bucks

    Uh, Detroit is a hell of a rebounding team. He can surely do this against Miami.

  25. maxwell_3g

    i think jr smith dreams of blowouts, where he can heave threes again and again without pissing off woody too much

  26. Douglas

    maxwell_3g:
    i think jr smith dreams of blowouts, where he can heave threes again and again without pissing off woody too much

    Do JRs Dream of Electric Blowouts?

  27. maxwell_3g

    jr, for all his craziness and chucking, has had an unbelievably high number of steals, deflections, tapouts, and all around hustle plays tonight

  28. jon abbey

    Thomas B.: Okay so why now?

    only a handful of superhuman freaks can go all out all season and still play at the same level in the playoffs, when it counts. Chandler coasted through much of the first part of the season (not that most people seemed to notice) and when he was selected to his first All-Star team four games ago, Woodson told him to start playing like an All-Star. the first 20 rebound game came as a result of this higher effort play, and he was so excited about that that for the last two games, it’s been a goal.

    there’s not always an explanation, but in this case, it’s an easy one, all of that has been documented publicly.

  29. AnonymousODG

    Wasn’t very pleased with Amare’s defense tonight. I counted at least four terrible switches/rotations leading directly to easy buckets for the Pistons.

    But good win and a solid effort in shutting the Pistons down when they tried to make a comeback.

  30. d-mar

    That little dipsy doo layup that Stat made in the 3rd quarter was a thing of beauty, gave me chills thinking that we may really have the old Amare back – AS A BENCH PLAYER! Wow, just wow.

  31. jon abbey

    AnonymousODG:
    Wasn’t very pleased with Amare’s defense tonight.I counted at least four terrible switches/rotations leading directly to easy buckets for the Pistons.

    the whole team phoned in the second half, I wouldn’t take too much out of any of that.

  32. lavor postell

    Pacers beat Chicago as well today putting them in the 3 seed if the playoffs were to start today. That would be amazing for the Knicks if the final seeding worked out like this. First round matchup against Milwaukee would be nice as well.

  33. Thomas B.

    jon abbey: only a handful of superhuman freaks can go all out all season and still play at the same level in the playoffs, when it counts. Chandler coasted through much of the first part of the season (not that most people seemed to notice) and when he was selected to his first All-Star team four games ago, Woodson told him to start playing like an All-Star. the first 20 rebound game came as a result of this higher effort play, and he was so excited about that that for the last two games, it’s been a goal.

    there’s not always an explanation, but in this case, it’s an easy one, all of that has been documented publicly.

    So he just turns it on when he wants to do so? And when he doesn’t he is just pacing himself. I was expecting something about play making point guards because that is what made Stat good again. I guess sometimes it is as easy as flipping a switch.

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