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		<title>By: Biggins</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/2012-13-game-thread-knicks-vs-clippers/#comment-419844</link>
		<dc:creator>Biggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 20:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#039;re not looking good right now.  Knicks gotta step it up!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re not looking good right now.  Knicks gotta step it up!</p>
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		<title>By: Owen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 16:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, it&#039;s been an issue. Reference in a NYT article earlier this month....

&quot;Chandler knew Woodson was watching him closely. They had talked at Tuesday’s practice. In Woodson’s opinion, Chandler had been passive on offense and was too worried about getting into foul trouble.&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s been an issue. Reference in a NYT article earlier this month&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8220;Chandler knew Woodson was watching him closely. They had talked at Tuesday’s practice. In Woodson’s opinion, Chandler had been passive on offense and was too worried about getting into foul trouble.&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick C.</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/2012-13-game-thread-knicks-vs-clippers/#comment-419834</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 16:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would assume some of Tyson&#039;s defensive passivity stems from a fear of foul trouble. So a competent backup would be nice. Has he or Woodson ever said anything?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would assume some of Tyson&#8217;s defensive passivity stems from a fear of foul trouble. So a competent backup would be nice. Has he or Woodson ever said anything?</p>
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		<title>By: Owen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 16:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;what this leaves out is Kurt Thomas, no reason to not drop him and try one of the other guys while we’re waiting for Sheed and Camby. it’s been weeks without a serviceable defensive big behind Chandler, it’s been hurting the team and wearing down Tyson.&quot;

Yeah, agreed. When your starting power forward is 6&#039;6 and your backup big off the bench is Amare, it&#039;s not a recipe for an elite defense. We need to get reinforcements. It made a big difference having Sheed and Camby around.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;what this leaves out is Kurt Thomas, no reason to not drop him and try one of the other guys while we’re waiting for Sheed and Camby. it’s been weeks without a serviceable defensive big behind Chandler, it’s been hurting the team and wearing down Tyson.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, agreed. When your starting power forward is 6&#8217;6 and your backup big off the bench is Amare, it&#8217;s not a recipe for an elite defense. We need to get reinforcements. It made a big difference having Sheed and Camby around.</p>
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		<title>By: jon abbey</title>
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		<dc:creator>jon abbey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 16:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-419829&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-419829&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Frank&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: co-sign on this.I just think it was a little disconcerting to see how badly our bench got outplayed by theirs.


Much as I love Novak, I think he belongs in Ronnie Brewer jail right now, at least for most of the game.I think he is best played when the Knicks are up 5+ late in the game and we are looking for the knockout punch — it sure seems he never misses in that circumstance.But his defense is just God-awful.I can’t imagine Copeland can’t give us what Novak is giving us now and also play slightly better defense.


And maybe I missed it in the 260+ comments above, but putting Shump on a guy like Crawford is why you have a guy like Shump. Why not put him in? Crawford just killed us.

They like James White for whatever reason. I don’t have a problem with not overreacting to injuries mid-season. At some point, one of the Wallace/camby combo will be healthy, and then you’d just have Lou Amundsen sitting at the end of the bench rather than White. 


On this roster we currently have 5 guys capable of playing the PF or C at a high level (Tyson, Sheed, Camby, STAT, Melo). That should be enough depth. Just bad luck with injuries so far, but it’s only Feb.


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what this leaves out is Kurt Thomas, no reason to not drop him and try one of the other guys while we&#039;re waiting for Sheed and Camby. it&#039;s been weeks without a serviceable defensive big behind Chandler, it&#039;s been hurting the team and wearing down Tyson.]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-419829" rel="nofollow">Frank</a></strong>: co-sign on this.I just think it was a little disconcerting to see how badly our bench got outplayed by theirs.</p>
<p>Much as I love Novak, I think he belongs in Ronnie Brewer jail right now, at least for most of the game.I think he is best played when the Knicks are up 5+ late in the game and we are looking for the knockout punch — it sure seems he never misses in that circumstance.But his defense is just God-awful.I can’t imagine Copeland can’t give us what Novak is giving us now and also play slightly better defense.</p>
<p>And maybe I missed it in the 260+ comments above, but putting Shump on a guy like Crawford is why you have a guy like Shump. Why not put him in? Crawford just killed us.</p>
<p>They like James White for whatever reason. I don’t have a problem with not overreacting to injuries mid-season. At some point, one of the Wallace/camby combo will be healthy, and then you’d just have Lou Amundsen sitting at the end of the bench rather than White. </p>
<p>On this roster we currently have 5 guys capable of playing the PF or C at a high level (Tyson, Sheed, Camby, STAT, Melo). That should be enough depth. Just bad luck with injuries so far, but it’s only Feb.</p>
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<p>what this leaves out is Kurt Thomas, no reason to not drop him and try one of the other guys while we&#8217;re waiting for Sheed and Camby. it&#8217;s been weeks without a serviceable defensive big behind Chandler, it&#8217;s been hurting the team and wearing down Tyson.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 15:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And re: Shump - agree with ruru that he looks a little lost out there. He looks hesitant to pull the trigger from 3 when open, and when he gets to the basket, looks like he&#039;s afraid to take it strong.  IMO where he&#039;s looked best is on side PNR as secondary action - some really nice dishes to the roller - so maybe they should run more of that to get him into a flow?

On defense, it really looks like he doesn&#039;t know what he&#039;s supposed to be doing out there from a team defense perspective.  My feeling is that he just needs practice -- remember he went through an abbreviated training camp as a rookie, then no training camp this year.  This year&#039;s team is completely different than the team he played on last year in terms of his role, so it&#039;s not surprising to me that he is a little lost.  That plus the fact that he&#039;s really still a rookie...

btw, to add to the cries against the second unit with Amare/Novak/JR/Prigs - Knicks are -10 per 100 poss with that unit on the floor.  And surprisingly, it can&#039;t score - 0.97 PPP for, 1.07 PPP-against. Need to figure something out, although it&#039;ll probably be made better when Rasheed comes back.  If he can even give us 5 minutes per half with that 4some, that would be huge, because the first 5-6 minutes of the 2nd and 4th seem to be a big problem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And re: Shump &#8211; agree with ruru that he looks a little lost out there. He looks hesitant to pull the trigger from 3 when open, and when he gets to the basket, looks like he&#8217;s afraid to take it strong.  IMO where he&#8217;s looked best is on side PNR as secondary action &#8211; some really nice dishes to the roller &#8211; so maybe they should run more of that to get him into a flow?</p>
<p>On defense, it really looks like he doesn&#8217;t know what he&#8217;s supposed to be doing out there from a team defense perspective.  My feeling is that he just needs practice &#8212; remember he went through an abbreviated training camp as a rookie, then no training camp this year.  This year&#8217;s team is completely different than the team he played on last year in terms of his role, so it&#8217;s not surprising to me that he is a little lost.  That plus the fact that he&#8217;s really still a rookie&#8230;</p>
<p>btw, to add to the cries against the second unit with Amare/Novak/JR/Prigs &#8211; Knicks are -10 per 100 poss with that unit on the floor.  And surprisingly, it can&#8217;t score &#8211; 0.97 PPP for, 1.07 PPP-against. Need to figure something out, although it&#8217;ll probably be made better when Rasheed comes back.  If he can even give us 5 minutes per half with that 4some, that would be huge, because the first 5-6 minutes of the 2nd and 4th seem to be a big problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 14:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-419827&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;massive&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: 
Ehh, we lost to the Clippers. It’s not like the completely unacceptable loss against Washington. Raymond Felton predictably couldn’t stop Chris Paul in the waning minutes of the 4th. Jamal Crawford made a living off of 19 footers. Our bench couldn’t stop theirs. These sorta things aren’t so bad when the team you’re playing is a better version of you. I doubt JR, Chandler, and Shumpert play that bad in the Spring.


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co-sign on this.  I just think it was a little disconcerting to see how badly our bench got outplayed by theirs.

Much as I love Novak, I think he belongs in Ronnie Brewer jail right now, at least for most of the game.  I think he is best played when the Knicks are up 5+ late in the game and we are looking for the knockout punch -- it sure seems he never misses in that circumstance.  But his defense is just God-awful.  I can&#039;t imagine Copeland can&#039;t give us what Novak is giving us now and also play slightly better defense.

And maybe I missed it in the 260+ comments above, but putting Shump on a guy like Crawford is why you have a guy like Shump. Why not put him in? Crawford just killed us.

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-419826&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-419826&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;yellowboy&#057;&#048;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: One thing that disappoints me with this Knicks staff is their stubbornness not to add a big while Wallace and Camby is out. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

They like James White for whatever reason. I don&#039;t have a problem with not overreacting to injuries mid-season. At some point, one of the Wallace/camby combo will be healthy, and then you&#039;d just have Lou Amundsen sitting at the end of the bench rather than White. 

On this roster we currently have 5 guys capable of playing the PF or C at a high level (Tyson, Sheed, Camby, STAT, Melo). That should be enough depth. Just bad luck with injuries so far, but it&#039;s only Feb.]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-419827" rel="nofollow">massive</a></strong>:<br />
Ehh, we lost to the Clippers. It’s not like the completely unacceptable loss against Washington. Raymond Felton predictably couldn’t stop Chris Paul in the waning minutes of the 4th. Jamal Crawford made a living off of 19 footers. Our bench couldn’t stop theirs. These sorta things aren’t so bad when the team you’re playing is a better version of you. I doubt JR, Chandler, and Shumpert play that bad in the Spring.</p>
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<p>co-sign on this.  I just think it was a little disconcerting to see how badly our bench got outplayed by theirs.</p>
<p>Much as I love Novak, I think he belongs in Ronnie Brewer jail right now, at least for most of the game.  I think he is best played when the Knicks are up 5+ late in the game and we are looking for the knockout punch &#8212; it sure seems he never misses in that circumstance.  But his defense is just God-awful.  I can&#8217;t imagine Copeland can&#8217;t give us what Novak is giving us now and also play slightly better defense.</p>
<p>And maybe I missed it in the 260+ comments above, but putting Shump on a guy like Crawford is why you have a guy like Shump. Why not put him in? Crawford just killed us.</p>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-419826" rel="nofollow">yellowboy&#057;&#048;</a></strong>: One thing that disappoints me with this Knicks staff is their stubbornness not to add a big while Wallace and Camby is out. </p></blockquote>
<p>They like James White for whatever reason. I don&#8217;t have a problem with not overreacting to injuries mid-season. At some point, one of the Wallace/camby combo will be healthy, and then you&#8217;d just have Lou Amundsen sitting at the end of the bench rather than White. </p>
<p>On this roster we currently have 5 guys capable of playing the PF or C at a high level (Tyson, Sheed, Camby, STAT, Melo). That should be enough depth. Just bad luck with injuries so far, but it&#8217;s only Feb.</p>
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		<title>By: massive</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 06:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ehh, we lost to the Clippers. It&#039;s not like the completely unacceptable loss against Washington. Raymond Felton predictably couldn&#039;t stop Chris Paul in the waning minutes of the 4th. Jamal Crawford made a living off of 19 footers. Our bench couldn&#039;t stop theirs. These sorta things aren&#039;t so bad when the team you&#039;re playing is a better version of you. I doubt JR, Chandler, and Shumpert play that bad in the Spring.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ehh, we lost to the Clippers. It&#8217;s not like the completely unacceptable loss against Washington. Raymond Felton predictably couldn&#8217;t stop Chris Paul in the waning minutes of the 4th. Jamal Crawford made a living off of 19 footers. Our bench couldn&#8217;t stop theirs. These sorta things aren&#8217;t so bad when the team you&#8217;re playing is a better version of you. I doubt JR, Chandler, and Shumpert play that bad in the Spring.</p>
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		<title>By: yellowboy90</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 06:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One thing that disappoints me with this Knicks staff is their stubbornness not to add a big while Wallace and Camby is out. You can&#039;t have Noavk and Amar&#039;e as your 4 &amp; 5 that&#039;s just retarded. If you are that crazy to have them out there at least go to a zone.

Also, White&#039;s contract was structured as a trade chip like Gadz was. So will that be an off season trade chip or will they get some help now? Now means after the all-star break.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing that disappoints me with this Knicks staff is their stubbornness not to add a big while Wallace and Camby is out. You can&#8217;t have Noavk and Amar&#8217;e as your 4 &amp; 5 that&#8217;s just retarded. If you are that crazy to have them out there at least go to a zone.</p>
<p>Also, White&#8217;s contract was structured as a trade chip like Gadz was. So will that be an off season trade chip or will they get some help now? Now means after the all-star break.</p>
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		<title>By: ruruland</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 04:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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