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Friday, October 24, 2014

2012-13 Game Thread: Knicks at Sixers

Back to back! All your highfalutin’ verbiage and fancy wordsmithery goes here…

101 comments on “2012-13 Game Thread: Knicks at Sixers

  1. MarcusRinaldi

    Knicks older and veteran players need to show they can perform and play on back to back nights. Thank god there’s no more of those back to back to back’s, because something tells me Rasheed Wallace and is “Brian Scalabrine role”, should be few and far between, rather than a nightly occurence.

  2. d-mar

    Still don’t have power so I’m listening on the radio, and I’ve gotta say, Spiro Dedes is a damn good play by play guy

  3. MarcusRinaldi

    DRed:
    Classic Bad Melo tonight.

    Way too early to tell what Melo we have. He can often be the microwave player, maybe not as drastic as J.R Smith, but he goes in spurts. Not seeing that defensive intensity and energy from his thus far though that we were pleasantly surprised and excited about from the first 2 games.

  4. ephus

    If “Bad ‘Melo” means hitting the defensive boards hard and getting to the free throw line, I will take it. Nine points and six rebounds after one quarter.

  5. Brian Cronin

    I know it is hard to win the second night of a back-to-back but holy crap, this current Sixers team looks terrible. The Knicks really have to beat these guys. Man, they are bad.

  6. DS

    Brian Cronin: I know it is hard to win the second night of a back-to-back but holy crap, this current Sixers team looks terrible. The Knicks really have to beat these guys. Man, they are bad.

    I’d point out that they beat Denver but so has everyone.

  7. massive

    Brian Cronin:
    I know it is hard to win the second night of a back-to-back but holy crap, this current Sixers team looks terrible. The Knicks really have to beat these guys. Man, they are bad.

    The Sixers weren’t a great team last year (8th seed), and they let go of their best three players from last season. They were going to take a step back regardless of the addition of Andrew Bynum.

  8. MarcusRinaldi

    Not sure if Bynum will turn this Sixer’s team into a title contender. He needed Kobe and Pau last year, and still barely got past the Nuggets and Javale Mcgee..

  9. ephus

    By looking for his own shot, Prigioni is going to make teams play him straight up. As a result, he will have more passing lanes and be more effective distributing the ball.

  10. DS

    In spite of my 1st post – Amar’e could be killing it on offense with this group. i.e. hitting all the shot Kurt Thomas is missing… ah, Breen just pointed it out.

  11. MarcusRinaldi

    Jared Jeffries shooting jumpers will still always be scarier than Kurt Thomas’s old school launches

  12. DRed

    It’s awesome how bad Nick Young is.

    uh-oh. Hope Earl doesn’t get tossed. That wasn’t really a punch.

  13. massive

    ephus:
    By looking for his own shot, Prigioni is going to make teams play him straight up.As a result, he will have more passing lanes and be more effective distributing the ball.

    Yeah, for a second I feared Prigioni would be Rondo without the athleticism or defense. Good to know he can score when he wants/needs to.

  14. ephus

    I do not have a problem with Kurt Thomas taking open 15 foot jump shots on the catch and shoot. That is his game, plus decent low post defense.

  15. DS

    ephus: I do not have a problem with Kurt Thomas taking open 15 foot jump shots on the catch and shoot. That is his game, plus decent low post defense.

    He was hitting them last year in Chicago; those last 2 just looked a little flat.

  16. hoolahoop

    nerfherder: Google First Row Sports.The links generally work, and now the pop ups are sexy ladies!

    Thanks, I used it last season, but First Row isn’t working for me.
    Did you have to download their software?

  17. nerfherder

    hoolahoop: Thanks, I used it last season, but First Row isn’t working for me.
    Did you have to download their software?

    Don’t remember having to do that. I may have already had whatever plug-in that site uses.

    Also Chandler jump shots are like seeing a dog walk on its hind legs.

  18. JoMo

    I watched JR slap Tyson five during his free throws and then touch his mouth. Could only cringe and think “JR Smith, out 1 week – flu.”

  19. MarcusRinaldi

    massive:
    This Knicks team is really good. I cannot wait until we play Boston.

    Wouldn’t get ahead of ourselves, we still need to incorporate Shumpert and Amare back into the lineup. I know you would think that that would only help things, but as we’ve seen in the past (Cough Amare and Melo Cough), we really don’t know the ceiling and potential of this teams yet.

  20. DRed

    Carmelo taking tough shots in the paint is so much better than Carmelo hoisting tough shots from 20′ feet.

  21. massive

    The good news: New York has two turnovers in the first half.
    The bad news: Both turnovers belong to Carmelo Anthony.

  22. DS

    massive:
    This Knicks team is really good. I cannot wait until we play Boston.

    I’m starting to realize how the 2011 Mavs w/ Kidd and Chandler swept the Lakers and beat the Heat.

  23. nicos

    On the down side- Kidd with a couple of gambles in the passing lane that wound up as fast break buckets for the 76ers. Also, Novak’s rotations are terrible. Interesting that Chandler hardly rolled hard to the basket at all until late in the second quarter and then promptly got two dunks off nice Felton feeds, the second pass being particularly nice.

  24. hoolahoop

    I think the fast pace and the good ball movement will make it easier for Amare to fit in with this team than last year.

  25. DRed

    Tyson is a strong, strong man. Thaddeus is a pretty big dude and Tyson threw him down like he was a child.

  26. Nick C.

    They are just killing teams (ok two) without seeming to play out of their minds. It’s just smart basketball, knocking down their threes ans team defense.

  27. maxwell_3g

    im fine with getting sheed some meaningful minutes, but kurt should still get his. kurt’s defense is top notch.

  28. Frank O.

    Have they forgotten Novak?
    I guess brewer playing so well, he doesn’t want to disrupt the flow.

  29. Bruno Almeida

    maxwell_3g:
    im fine with getting sheed some meaningful minutes, but kurt should still get his.kurt’s defense is top notch.

    I’m curious to see what happens when both Camby and Amare are healthy… got to think Camby might be the 1st reserve and then Kurt or Sheed according to matchups, but it’s nice depth to have.

  30. DRed

    The Sixers definitely aren’t good, but we’re destroying them, which is what good teams should do to bad teams.

  31. rohank

    SHEED!!! I take back every bad thing I’ve ever said about him. Dude can straight up ball.

    I remember Barkley once said on TNT: “Rasheed Wallace could have been the greatest player EVER in basketball if he had the right motivation. He has the physical tools.” I remember thinking WTF, but now, at least he wasn’t TOTALLY crazy…

  32. rohank

    Also, this is best defense I’ve seen from the Knicks since 2000. I remember Jeff Van Gundy used to say: If we can hold a team to 22 pts/quarter, that’s the goal. That way, 88 for the game. I think it was the ’99 Knicks who held like 21 straight teams UNDER 90 ppg. This team is GREAT defensively, and Shump Shump hasn’t played yet!

  33. mokers

    These games won’t happen all year, but I think this is such a great effort to see from this team after all the things that happened in the offseason. The defensive effort has been great and it all of the additions appear to be actually additions. Brewer looks like an absolute steal. Prigs is playing well enough to give Kidd and Felton rest until Shump gets back. Sheed and Thomas look like they will be able to be productive off the bench. Like others, I worry about our offense at times, but I think the defense will be able to clamp down when that happens.

  34. BigBlueAL

    Brewer really has been an excellent addition. He wont shoot this good all season obviously but defensively he is as good as advertised.

  35. JR Sec 112

    Nice game by Melo. Engaged defensively, didn’t force much, 21pts on 16 shots. He’s doing exactly what’s needed. Great start to the season for him.

  36. Glew

    BigBlueAL:
    Brewer really has been an excellent addition.He wont shoot this good all season obviously but defensively he is as good as advertised.

    I wouldn’t be so sure about that. The newly acquired knicks shooting coach Dave Hoopla is an absolute stud. I had the pleasure of seeing this guy give a speech on shooting at the Ray Allen basketball camp years ago. As he gave the speech on teaching people the correct way to shoot he took shots from all over the court swishing nearly all of them. He pays an assistant to keep track of his shooting percentage every time he practices/gives lectures and he shoots at an unbelievable rate something in the high 90s. At this one particular lecture he was hitting something like 98 percent on 1,000 shots. It should also be noted that many of these shots were one handed threes. Perhaps he has retaught Brewer how to warm up/shoot properly?

  37. massive

    Meanwhile in Brooklyn, the Nets have blown a double digit lead against the Rubio&Love-less T’Wolves. They’re tied at 96 with a little under 4:00 to go.

  38. mokers

    We’ll get a good idea of what this team is made of on the SAS/Memphis back to back next week, but they are looking like a good team right now.

  39. WeirdJohn

    I know it’s only 3 games, but this team looks really really strong. I think the best thing I’ve seen so far in the first three games is that the team seems to have a killer mentality. Once they get a good lead, they don’t let up, they just step on the gas and put the game away.

    Very excited for this season and the team isn’t even at full strength yet. Not worried about Amare coming back. As someone commented earlier, he thrives in an offense with this much ball movement. Not adverse to seeing him come off the bench though.

  40. d-mar

    There’s something really special about this team. Everyone knows their role, they have shooters, defenders, distributors. We know this won’t last forever, but the way this team plays, I just can’t see them getting in a prolonged slump. Or losing to teams they should beat.

  41. WeirdJohn

    d-mar:
    There’s something really special about this team. Everyone knows their role, they have shooters, defenders, distributors. We know this won’t last forever, but the way this team plays, I just can’t see them getting in a prolonged slump. Or losing to teams they should beat.

    Like Minnesota for instance?

  42. d-mar

    Oh and I have to call out those (won’t use any names) who were chicken littles during the preseason (“im not concerned about winning and losing, but the way they are playing”)

    It just shows that preseason in any sport has no bearing on tHe regular season.

  43. PD

    knicks look great again. i was little worried because woodson’s goatee looked a little off in the pregame interviews. so therefore i though we might struggle somewhat. though luckily by game time it was back to its usual perfect form. so i knew we would be ok.

    seriously though that philly team is in real trouble. unless bynum comes back and puts up a hyper efficient 23 and 12 or something their offense is rough. if you are depending heavily on holiday (though he has looked ok i guess) and uh, nick young that is not good. seriously. soooo much nick young.

    the only cause for concern for the right now is unless this will be the best 3 point shooting team in history, im interested to see what they will do when those shots are not falling. though the offense seems pretty smart. open 3s. attacking the rim. not too many dumb long 2s. im pleasantly surprised. we will see what happens.

  44. Z-man

    @89 agree, the difference is that guys like White and Copeland have been rotation players on every team we’ve had for the last decade plus. Fields, Jorts, Bill Walker, Jorts, Mozgov, to name a few. This team has a tremendous leadership core and does not see to be affected by pressure. JR and Melo are not the brains of the team, and don’t have to be. And they look like they’re having an absolute blast.

    This doesn’t look phony like Linsanity, or Amare’s 13 of 14 streak, or Steph’s hot streak that got Isiah his last contract. This looks for real. I don’t know if we win a title, but nobody is gonna intimidate this team. Nobody.

  45. johnlocke

    Loving the way this team is playing esp on the defense. And tonight the only player I can single out that played poorly was Novak — terrible rotations on D. Having said all that, still not sure how much stock we can put into beating down Philly twice, whose best player is Jrue Holiday, whose made a total of ZERO all-star games. That Miami win was awesome, but really looking forward to seeing how we do on that San Antonio, Memphis trip. Must say though that the PRIGs to JR fastbreak throwdown AND-1, had me giggling like a school girl, haha.

    Z-man:
    @89 agree, the difference is that guys like White and Copeland have been rotation players on every team we’ve had for the last decade plus. Fields, Jorts, Bill Walker, Jorts, Mozgov, to name a few. This team has a tremendous leadership core and does not see to be affected by pressure. JR and Melo are not the brains of the team, and don’t have to be. And they look like they’re having an absolute blast.

    This doesn’t look phony like Linsanity, or Amare’s 13 of 14 streak, or Steph’s hot streak that got Isiah his last contract. This looks for real. I don’t know if we win a title, but nobody is gonna intimidate this team. Nobody.

  46. Frank

    The shooting can’t stay this hot (can it?) but this defense is for real. Say what you will about Philly and their awful offense but in their 4 games this year, Miami has scored 124,120, 119, and 84 points this year so far- one of these is not like the other.

  47. Gideon Zaga

    Agreed this looks like the real deal. Kudos to Grunwald, the idea seems to have been to surround superstars with veterans instead of role players. Looking good so far.

    Z-man:
    @89 agree, the difference is that guys like White and Copeland have been rotation players on every team we’ve had for the last decade plus. Fields, Jorts, Bill Walker, Jorts, Mozgov, to name a few. This team has a tremendous leadership core and does not see to be affected by pressure. JR and Melo are not the brains of the team, and don’t have to be. And they look like they’re having an absolute blast.

    This doesn’t look phony like Linsanity, or Amare’s 13 of 14 streak, or Steph’s hot streak that got Isiah his last contract. This looks for real. I don’t know if we win a title, but nobody is gonna intimidate this team. Nobody.

  48. DRed

    Nick Young is a spectacularly terrible basketball player.

    I’ve been most impressed with our depth. Our stars haven’t had to play serious minutes yet at all, and that’s going to be really important with such an old team. Last year we had one good point guard, and he played about 25 games. This year we have 3. That’s a huge improvement.

  49. ephus

    When some people look at JR Smith, all they see are the tattoos, excitable nature and questionable shot selection. But JR combines the jump shot of Trent Tucker with a rich man’s version of the slashing of Gerald Wilkins and the perimeter defense of Phil Jackson. I was super impressed with the way JR pulled his emotions into check after the flareup in the first half.

    This roster, when healthy, is extremely deep.

  50. jon abbey

    loving Brewer, can’t wait to see him and Shumpert on court together.

    Kurt Thomas, say goodbye to your minutes and get your pom-poms as both Sheed and Camby (back next game) should be ahead of you right now. Novak also is going to lose minutes as guys come back if he can’t figure out a way to get open more.

  51. ruruland

    ephus:
    When some people look at JR Smith, all they see are the tattoos, excitable nature and questionable shot selection.But JR combines the jump shot of Trent Tucker with a rich man’s version of the slashing of Gerald Wilkins and the perimeter defense of Phil Jackson.I was super impressed with the way JR pulled his emotions into check after the flareup in the first half.

    This roster, when healthy, is extremely deep.

    Nice

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