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	<title>Comments on: 2011 Report Card: Toney Douglas</title>
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		<title>By: BigBlueAL</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigBlueAL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 04:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah I kinda agree considering he averaged almost 7 assists per game when he started during the regular season when Billups was hurt.

Of course I would like to see him become a better passing PG but off the bench I have no problem with him looking for his shot first for the most part especially when he is on fire like he was several times last season.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I kinda agree considering he averaged almost 7 assists per game when he started during the regular season when Billups was hurt.</p>
<p>Of course I would like to see him become a better passing PG but off the bench I have no problem with him looking for his shot first for the most part especially when he is on fire like he was several times last season.</p>
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		<title>By: Jax</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/2011-report-card-toney-douglas/#comment-346673</link>
		<dc:creator>Jax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 21:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While it is easy to say you do not see TD developing into a legit PG, I am struggling with your explanation.

What pre-requisites make a good point guard in MD&#039;s system?  I do not remember very many pick and rolls with Amare and TD leading to amare dunks (like with Felton).  Is it merely that he needs time to develop his P&amp;R game?  

Given his general role of bench spark, it seems that would generally necessitate a shoot first mentality (remember the quality of the second unit he usually plays with).  Is there anything someone can point to that suggests his passing numbers would not improve if he ran the point on a more regular basis.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While it is easy to say you do not see TD developing into a legit PG, I am struggling with your explanation.</p>
<p>What pre-requisites make a good point guard in MD&#8217;s system?  I do not remember very many pick and rolls with Amare and TD leading to amare dunks (like with Felton).  Is it merely that he needs time to develop his P&amp;R game?  </p>
<p>Given his general role of bench spark, it seems that would generally necessitate a shoot first mentality (remember the quality of the second unit he usually plays with).  Is there anything someone can point to that suggests his passing numbers would not improve if he ran the point on a more regular basis.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/2011-report-card-toney-douglas/#comment-346672</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 18:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi all - I&#039;d LOVE to believe Chris Sheridan but this article has the distinct feel of &quot;I have a new website and need to get a ton of pageviews to start it off right - so let&#039;s write an article that is exactly what people are starving to hear&quot;.   Note he doesn&#039;t actually cite anything new - he&#039;s just writing out the optimistic side of anything. No sources. No nothing.  Again, I&#039;d LOVE to believe that he actually knows something, but this is the same guy whose sources led him to believe that LBJ was coming to the Knicks. And the same guy who actually took the time to sue Peter Vecsey of all people for libel. As if anyone actually cares what Vecsey says about anything at this point in his crashing/burning career.

Anyway - a couple comments:
- I&#039;d give Toney a 3 on offense - he was exactly what we expected. Streaky shooter to be sure, below average distributor. But he took care of the ball (1.6 TO/36) and absolutely carried the offense at times.  
- I&#039;d give him a 4 on defense - effort etc. is great but he often hung  our notoriously crappy interior defense out to dry with his gambling. 
- I think Toney&#039;s most likely comps in this league is Lindsey Hunter and Bobby Jackson.  This is not a bad thing, considering he was a late 1st round pick we bought with Dolan Dollars.

Lastly - re: the 5 on 5 - great job guys! The only thing I would say re: the Chris Paul thing is this:  it seems quite likely to me that the owners will push for the end of sign-trades as we know them now. The point of the bird rights was for players to be incentivized to stay with their own teams, not so they could get Bird-level money and then get traded to the team of their choice a la Melo. So if that is the case, and CP3 wants to come to the Knicks, there will be no advantage to him in agreeing to sign an extension with a trade partner - no extra $ or years.  No sign/trades means it&#039;s much more likely players will just walk into FA. C&#039;mon and walk over to New York CP3!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all &#8211; I&#8217;d LOVE to believe Chris Sheridan but this article has the distinct feel of &#8220;I have a new website and need to get a ton of pageviews to start it off right &#8211; so let&#8217;s write an article that is exactly what people are starving to hear&#8221;.   Note he doesn&#8217;t actually cite anything new &#8211; he&#8217;s just writing out the optimistic side of anything. No sources. No nothing.  Again, I&#8217;d LOVE to believe that he actually knows something, but this is the same guy whose sources led him to believe that LBJ was coming to the Knicks. And the same guy who actually took the time to sue Peter Vecsey of all people for libel. As if anyone actually cares what Vecsey says about anything at this point in his crashing/burning career.</p>
<p>Anyway &#8211; a couple comments:<br />
- I&#8217;d give Toney a 3 on offense &#8211; he was exactly what we expected. Streaky shooter to be sure, below average distributor. But he took care of the ball (1.6 TO/36) and absolutely carried the offense at times.<br />
- I&#8217;d give him a 4 on defense &#8211; effort etc. is great but he often hung  our notoriously crappy interior defense out to dry with his gambling.<br />
- I think Toney&#8217;s most likely comps in this league is Lindsey Hunter and Bobby Jackson.  This is not a bad thing, considering he was a late 1st round pick we bought with Dolan Dollars.</p>
<p>Lastly &#8211; re: the 5 on 5 &#8211; great job guys! The only thing I would say re: the Chris Paul thing is this:  it seems quite likely to me that the owners will push for the end of sign-trades as we know them now. The point of the bird rights was for players to be incentivized to stay with their own teams, not so they could get Bird-level money and then get traded to the team of their choice a la Melo. So if that is the case, and CP3 wants to come to the Knicks, there will be no advantage to him in agreeing to sign an extension with a trade partner &#8211; no extra $ or years.  No sign/trades means it&#8217;s much more likely players will just walk into FA. C&#8217;mon and walk over to New York CP3!</p>
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		<title>By: flossy</title>
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		<dc:creator>flossy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 16:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I see the Knicks as in the East&#039;s top 4 if everyone stays healthy, because I really don&#039;t think Orlando is a very good team.  Sure, Dwight Howard is awesome, but Melo, Amar&#039;e and Billups are all considerably better than anyone else the Magic can run out there, and a massive proportion of the Magic&#039;s cap space is eaten up by players who are straight up bad.  Every time you&#039;re tempted to complain that Melo or Amar&#039;e are one-dimensional and overpaid, just repeat: Gilbert Arenas.  Gilbert Arenas.  Gilbert Arenas...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see the Knicks as in the East&#8217;s top 4 if everyone stays healthy, because I really don&#8217;t think Orlando is a very good team.  Sure, Dwight Howard is awesome, but Melo, Amar&#8217;e and Billups are all considerably better than anyone else the Magic can run out there, and a massive proportion of the Magic&#8217;s cap space is eaten up by players who are straight up bad.  Every time you&#8217;re tempted to complain that Melo or Amar&#8217;e are one-dimensional and overpaid, just repeat: Gilbert Arenas.  Gilbert Arenas.  Gilbert Arenas&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Cavan (@JPCavan)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Cavan (@JPCavan)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 16:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By the way: http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/5-on-5-110906/newyork-knicks-offseason-questions

Big ups to Sirs John Kenney and Robert Silverman for their delightful 5-on-5 contribution!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way: <a href="http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/5-on-5-110906/newyork-knicks-offseason-questions" rel="nofollow">http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/5-on-5-110906/newyork-knicks-offseason-questions</a></p>
<p>Big ups to Sirs John Kenney and Robert Silverman for their delightful 5-on-5 contribution!</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Cavan (@JPCavan)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Cavan (@JPCavan)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 15:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So.... Sheridan is now a &#039;&#039;former&quot; ESPN writer? Did I miss something?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230;. Sheridan is now a &#8221;former&#8221; ESPN writer? Did I miss something?</p>
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		<title>By: John Kenney</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/2011-report-card-toney-douglas/#comment-346663</link>
		<dc:creator>John Kenney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 12:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@jim I think longer recovery time every time chauncey is injured is reason to doubt that, over the course of a full season, we would finish in the top four of the east. But yes, amar&#039;e should be fresher. The question is, how fresh can he be? dope fresh, hopefully. 

From Chris Sheridan&#039;s new site: &quot;They are a lot closer to a settlement than most people realize. I know this because I talk regularly with a bunch of important people who tell me important things.&quot;

Who will they hire to replace him, I wonder?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jim I think longer recovery time every time chauncey is injured is reason to doubt that, over the course of a full season, we would finish in the top four of the east. But yes, amar&#8217;e should be fresher. The question is, how fresh can he be? dope fresh, hopefully. </p>
<p>From Chris Sheridan&#8217;s new site: &#8220;They are a lot closer to a settlement than most people realize. I know this because I talk regularly with a bunch of important people who tell me important things.&#8221;</p>
<p>Who will they hire to replace him, I wonder?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Cavan (@JPCavan)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Cavan (@JPCavan)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 11:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@9

Hell, I&#039;m just glad we&#039;re still invited to do these things! Seems like it&#039;s been a while since we saw a KBlogger weigh in on any of the 5 on 5s. Does the Mother Ship really dislike us that much? Robert: Thoughts?

Nicely done w/ the video. I would only temper the legitimate realism by saying that part of the reason Amare started to wear down was precisely because he didn&#039;t have a reliable go-to guy to ease the scoring burden. With Melo out there, I don&#039;t see Amare getting that level of burn... And especially if we end up with a abbreviated season. 

As for Chauncey, I just don&#039;t see his injuries as the product of being &quot;old.&quot; They were freak injuries, pure and simple. A Dwight Howard knee to the quad probably would&#039;ve severed any of our legs. And while age definitely protracted what 10 years ago would&#039;ve been a much quicker recovery process, I still think he&#039;s got a few productive years left in the tank.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@9</p>
<p>Hell, I&#8217;m just glad we&#8217;re still invited to do these things! Seems like it&#8217;s been a while since we saw a KBlogger weigh in on any of the 5 on 5s. Does the Mother Ship really dislike us that much? Robert: Thoughts?</p>
<p>Nicely done w/ the video. I would only temper the legitimate realism by saying that part of the reason Amare started to wear down was precisely because he didn&#8217;t have a reliable go-to guy to ease the scoring burden. With Melo out there, I don&#8217;t see Amare getting that level of burn&#8230; And especially if we end up with a abbreviated season. </p>
<p>As for Chauncey, I just don&#8217;t see his injuries as the product of being &#8220;old.&#8221; They were freak injuries, pure and simple. A Dwight Howard knee to the quad probably would&#8217;ve severed any of our legs. And while age definitely protracted what 10 years ago would&#8217;ve been a much quicker recovery process, I still think he&#8217;s got a few productive years left in the tank.</p>
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		<title>By: John Kenney</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Kenney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 04:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First off Jim, Bismarck, North Dakota is a perfectly fine locale. Bob Knight even took Jay Bilas there to golf this summer, which proves.. wait a second, I can&#039;t keep this up, Fargo is a much better location.

Second, I believe you&#039;ll see my responses tomorrow on ESPN&#039;s Friday 5 on 5, and maybe even get the chance to watch a video featuring this manly visage. Feel free to argue with me here.

As Hemingway said in Midnight in Paris, Who wants to fight?!?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off Jim, Bismarck, North Dakota is a perfectly fine locale. Bob Knight even took Jay Bilas there to golf this summer, which proves.. wait a second, I can&#8217;t keep this up, Fargo is a much better location.</p>
<p>Second, I believe you&#8217;ll see my responses tomorrow on ESPN&#8217;s Friday 5 on 5, and maybe even get the chance to watch a video featuring this manly visage. Feel free to argue with me here.</p>
<p>As Hemingway said in Midnight in Paris, Who wants to fight?!?</p>
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		<title>By: Z-man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Z-man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 02:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like TD a lot, and largely agree with d-mar @4.  He reminds me somewhat of Charlie Ward, more in terms of demeanor and physique, but TD is a better shooter and not as good of a passer (which is saying something because Ward was no Nash either.)  TD&#039;s low TO #&#039;s mean that he can probably take more risks than he does to get those assists. I agree with you, Jim, in that this could be a breakout year of sorts, but more importantly, if he can just play consistently up to his shooting numbers and add an assist or 2 per 36, that will be good enough for me.

Considering all the hoopla in the media over not drafting Jennings, I don&#039;t know if I trade TD for Jennings straight up right now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like TD a lot, and largely agree with d-mar @4.  He reminds me somewhat of Charlie Ward, more in terms of demeanor and physique, but TD is a better shooter and not as good of a passer (which is saying something because Ward was no Nash either.)  TD&#8217;s low TO #&#8217;s mean that he can probably take more risks than he does to get those assists. I agree with you, Jim, in that this could be a breakout year of sorts, but more importantly, if he can just play consistently up to his shooting numbers and add an assist or 2 per 36, that will be good enough for me.</p>
<p>Considering all the hoopla in the media over not drafting Jennings, I don&#8217;t know if I trade TD for Jennings straight up right now.</p>
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