Comments on: 2011 Report Card: Ball Wilker

By: Z-man

Z-man — Fri, 08 Jul 2011 18:48:16 +0000

Frank: i love all these shumpert highlight vids, but is it a problem that there are basically zero videos of him passing the ball? how about someone making a shumpert PG mix? since he’s supposed to be a PG…?

True, but I think it's pretty obvious that he is not really a PG per se, more like a combo guard with some PG skills. If he was a PG, he probably would have been drafted higher.

By: Frank

Frank — Fri, 08 Jul 2011 17:22:07 +0000

meanwhile – yao-za — Yao Ming is retiring according to Woj from Yahoo. That’s sad – he was good for the game.

By: Frank

Frank — Fri, 08 Jul 2011 17:21:28 +0000

i love all these shumpert highlight vids, but is it a problem that there are basically zero videos of him passing the ball? how about someone making a shumpert PG mix? since he’s supposed to be a PG…?

By: latke

latke — Fri, 08 Jul 2011 16:07:47 +0000

Ted Nelson: Seriously, though, I believe you’re automatically draft eligible at 22 for a non-NCAA player or after your Sr year for an NCAA player. If you don’t get drafted that year, you are an NBA free agent. Before then you can’t sign with an NBA team unless you’ve entered the draft and gone undrafted (or been drafted and sign with the team that holds your draft rights).

The one exception to this rule that I found though was Jose Calderon, who appears to have never entered the draft and signed as a free agent at age 28 with the Raptors.

By: ess-dog

ess-dog — Fri, 08 Jul 2011 14:55:19 +0000

K-Pritch going to the Pacers. Nice pick up. Too bad they didn’t have him for the draft but you have to figure they will return to the playoffs. Maybe they trade Granger now?

By: Ted Nelson

Ted Nelson — Fri, 08 Jul 2011 14:33:18 +0000

CRJoe: If any player has signed a professional contract outside of the NBA (could be Europe or the ABA or something) AND they played under that contract, then they can’t be drafted and can be signed right away

Someone should probably tell the NBA that Brandon Jennings and Jeremy Tyler were picked illegally... Seriously, though, I believe you're automatically draft eligible at 22 for a non-NCAA player or after your Sr year for an NCAA player. If you don't get drafted that year, you are an NBA free agent. Before then you can't sign with an NBA team unless you've entered the draft and gone undrafted (or been drafted and sign with the team that holds your draft rights).

By: CRJoe

CRJoe — Fri, 08 Jul 2011 03:22:16 +0000

latke: There may be a rule where if you’ve played a certain number of years in other professional leagues and are a certain age you can be a free agent regardless of whether you’ve entered a draft, but don’t quote me on that.

Ha! I quoted you... If any player has signed a professional contract outside of the NBA (could be Europe or the ABA or something) AND they played under that contract, then they can't be drafted and can be signed right away... Also if they are international players and are 22 (or gonna be 22 during that year)...

By: latke

latke — Fri, 08 Jul 2011 01:51:53 +0000

wooly, I can’t find the specific rules, but I’m pretty sure it goes something like this:

1) if a player has entered a draft and not been drafted, he can sign as a free agent anywhere at any time (this was the case with Mozgov, who went undrafted in 2008).
2) 1st round picks become unrestricted free agents if they do not play in the league for 5 years, but the rights to second round picks never expire
3) Second round picks also can sign with the team that holds their rights for any amount and length they can negotiate.
4) Any player who has not entered a draft cannot sign with a team. There may be a rule where if you’ve played a certain number of years in other professional leagues and are a certain age you can be a free agent regardless of whether you’ve entered a draft, but don’t quote me on that.

By: Z-man

Z-man — Fri, 08 Jul 2011 01:04:28 +0000

Here’s a recent Shump mix. The kid can ball!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym8hTmdleW4

By: woolygator3

woolygator3 — Fri, 08 Jul 2011 00:00:42 +0000

Totally not related but was just thinking about the draft. I was just wondering if a prospect would be allowed to not enter the draft and sign with a team as a free agent for more money than the #1 pick? Say if LeBron or Tim Duncan knew they were worth so much more than their rookie contract and that any team would want to sign them. Would they be allowed to sign with the team they wanted and outside the rookie scale, being an undrafted rookie? I know the teams couldn’t have contact and influence with them pre-draft but being able to choose which team to go to instead of being drafted to the cavs or timberwolves of the world would be a better situation and more money. Or are there restrictions on this kind of thing?