Comments on: 2011 Report Card: Amar’e Stoudemire

By: SeeWhyDee77

SeeWhyDee77 — Wed, 18 May 2011 01:12:57 +0000

yea man..I’m kinda jealous..imagine if they r able to add Irving and Williams or Irving and a veteran for the #5..like if they could get a team like the griz to bite on sendin Gay to them for a package involving the #5..or Kevin Love..or Lamarcus Aldridge..Cleveland could get good again QUICK

By: Z-man

Z-man — Wed, 18 May 2011 00:53:23 +0000

Cavs get #1 pick, guess that is some sort of poetic justice!

By: SeeWhyDee77

SeeWhyDee77 — Wed, 18 May 2011 00:24:20 +0000

woolygator3: I’ve read somewhere that golden state aren’t really looking for a project through drafting a young player, instead preferring more of a veteran presence. Any ideas what it might take to acquire/trade up to their pick at #11? or even if we would even get any benefit from it?

It would problee take Fields and our 17 or a combo of Extra E(sign and Trade), Walker and our 17. At 11 is there really 1 player available worth losin that much? We've already gutted our depth in gettin Melo. I must admit, I would absolutely LOVE to see Fredette in a Knick uni..but not at that cost.

By: woolygator3

woolygator3 — Tue, 17 May 2011 23:29:41 +0000

I’ve read somewhere that golden state aren’t really looking for a project through drafting a young player, instead preferring more of a veteran presence. Any ideas what it might take to acquire/trade up to their pick at #11? or even if we would even get any benefit from it?

By: Z-man

Z-man — Tue, 17 May 2011 23:18:32 +0000

I have always taken issue with the similarity scores, and the above comparisons emphasize why. One issue I have is the limiting nature of the exact age match. Another is the equalizing of the components to shake out a “balanced” comparison metric. The spread in PER (a flawed, but functional measure of overall player value) is enormous, with Haywood being a pedestrian 15.7 to Ewing being an elite player at 23.7 (8th in the league that year); TS% also has a tremendous spread, from the highly inefficient .505 to the vrey efficient (though an off year for him) Nance at .586. The deviations of the Z-scores, if I recall correctly, indicate that there is not that much similarity between any of the players on the list to Amar’e, and Joe Barry Carrol and Bob Lanier were such different kinds of players that it is hard to fine any useful way to interpret the chart.

Funny, though, while I was messing around with B-R’s player season finder, I stumbled on the following comparison:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&per_minute_base=36&type=advanced&lg_id=NBA&is_playoffs=N&year_min=&year_max=&franch_id=&season_start=1&season_end=-1&age_min=26&age_max=30&height_min=80&height_max=84&birth_country_is=Y&birth_country=&is_active=&is_hof=&pos=&qual=blk_per_g_req&c1stat=ts_pct&c1comp=gt&c1val=.550&c2stat=ts_pct&c2comp=lt&c2val=.580&c3stat=usg_pct&c3comp=gt&c3val=28&c4stat=trb_pct&c4comp=lt&c4val=16&c5stat=def_rtg&c5comp=gt&c6mult=0.98&c6stat=off_rtg&order_by=ws

Seems like, based on these search criteria, these two were separated at birth!

By: SeeWhyDee77

SeeWhyDee77 — Tue, 17 May 2011 20:25:14 +0000

Re: Jenkins…I must admit he looks good. But we already have Douglas as Frank said..and drafting Jenkins would problee allow Walsh to make potential trade packages look better by including Douglas. But, we need as much defense as we can add without sacrificing too much offensive potency. That’s why I say Jackson should be the pick if he’s there. In no way should Walsh draft a big at #17 unless he’s taller than 6’9″ and weighs more than 240. Why are so many people opposed to inking Dalembert? It’s not really gonna be that much of a market for defensive bigs. If the Clips retain Jordan, which they should do, Kaman is problee expendable. But he’s too expensive for NY..and not really considered a defensive big. Marc Gasol will problee stay in Memphis anyway, and he’s more offense than defense and will cost too much. Oden would be nice if he can get healthy and Portland doesn’t tender him. After that..who else is out there? Yao? Please. Camby? Most likely not available. Pryzbilla? Ehh..not sold on him. Varejao? Waaayyyy to expensive. Haywood? Ditto. Chandler? Would love it..but not a snowball’s chance in hell we could get him after what he’s meant to Dallas this season. I’m tellin you..Dalembert and Jackson would improve us enough defensively to be a real factor. I also think Sefalosha could be had via trade. A Walker/Balkman offer might be enough to make OKC bite. Beyond that, I’m pretty sure Walsh could find a cheap shooter to replace Walker..and one would hope that Derrick Brown proves to be a steal for us as well. Maybe Speights would be available as a back up big. Adding Dalembert would allow us to move Turiaf and his “offensaphobia”. I’m just sayin..

By: SeeWhyDee77

SeeWhyDee77 — Tue, 17 May 2011 20:05:21 +0000

Thomas B.: Well when the rest of the scores are posted and we see that no Knicks scored higher than a 2 (I’m guessing, I did not peak. Seriously, who was better than a 2? Maybe TDDWTDD maybe.), I think the 1 Stat got will look about right.

lol..well when u look at the knicks total defense..lmao..no knick better than a 2..so true. I just think Stat performed better on D than I expected him to. Prior to coming to NY I thought he was pretty much a doormat on defense. He did a little more this season than lay down..but not much. Is a 1.5 fair?

By: Thomas B.

Thomas B. — Tue, 17 May 2011 16:16:34 +0000

Well when the rest of the scores are posted and we see that no Knicks scored higher than a 2 (I’m guessing, I did not peak. Seriously, who was better than a 2? Maybe TDDWTDD maybe.), I think the 1 Stat got will look about right.

By: Frank

Frank — Tue, 17 May 2011 16:07:50 +0000

From a stats standpoint, Jenkins’s is pretty impressive. TS% of 64% on an eFG of 59%, so his efficiency is all about him actually making shots, not just foul shots. TO-R was really bad his first 3 years but cut it down to 13% of possessions this year. And he’s been 40+ from college 3 the last 2 years, and 82+% from FT line, so his shooting #s are likely not a fluke. And even though he played in the Colonial League, he seemed to do OK in his games against better competition (Nebraska, UNC, George Mason x 2).

Interesting article that Mr. Google found for me:

http://www.midmajormadness.com/2011/4/15/2111016/2011-nba-draft-can-charles-jenkins-play-the-point-hofstra

Looks like he’s not great at running the PnR as a distributor. They’re also comparing him to TD, which is not all bad, except we already have one of those.

By: SeeWhyDee77

SeeWhyDee77 — Tue, 17 May 2011 15:51:04 +0000

ess-dog: Could this possibly be a smoke-screen?: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/213734/Knicks_Targeting_Hofstras_Jenkins DX has him as an early 2nd rounder.Looks like he had a pretty good senior year.Seems more like a shooter/scorer than a distributor.

I've never seen the kid play..but I just looked at his draft bio. He seems, numbers wise, like a decent combo guard off the pine...but isn't that Douglas? I'm smitten with this Jackson kid from BC..I just hope he doesn't skyrocket up the boards b4 the draft. I think in the latter 1st round he's a can't miss prospect. 6'3" 202, built like Billups but far more athletic and able to penetrate and dish. Plus the kid's got a 7' wingspan!! A point guard!! This kid could be a god send defensively at the point for years to come. That's why I say Walsh should pick him if he's still there and sign Dalembert. If you've got defense at the 1 and 5, it makes the game much easier.