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Saturday, November 1, 2014

2011 Preseason Game Thread: Knicks @ Celtics (10/16/10)

Thought I’d put this up, for anyone who wants to talk about the game…

16 comments on “2011 Preseason Game Thread: Knicks @ Celtics (10/16/10)

  1. Z-man

    I’m glad Amar’e is out, we really need to get a good look at what others can do on offense. When he’s in, he’s taking over, period.

    Hope Fields grts more minutes than Mason. Mason is what he is, so no need to look at him very much.

    Felton needs to step up, he’s pretty much stunk so far.

    I have less confidence than most around here in TD’s development as a PG. I love the guy and hope I’m wrong, but I have keyed in on him and have seen lots of missed opportunities on passes that tru PGs make. His court vision-reaction time combo seems subpar for a PG, not sure how much that can change over time, I think of it as more of a natural instinctive thing. He is ferocious on D though and hustles his ass off. I am guessing Charlie Ward may be his upside, so he can work as PG, but better as a backup. Felton really needs to be the starter, IMO.

    Hope Randolph gets a lot of burn to see whether the criticism of him in the press has an effect on his decision-making.

    I hope that Rautins and Williams see limited minutes, they are clearly not NBA ready.

  2. latke

    Z-man: I have less confidence than most around here in TD’s development as a PG. I love the guy and hope I’m wrong, but I have keyed in on him and have seen lots of missed opportunities on passes that tru PGs make. His court vision-reaction time combo seems subpar for a PG, not sure how much that can change over time, I think of it as more of a natural instinctive thing.

    I don’t see TD as ever being a starting caliber point guard because of his mediocre passing, but that doesn’t mean he can’t be a very valuable player. Last season he was a strong defender. So far in the preseason his defense has appeared to be approaching elite status. 2.8 steals/36, even in such a small sample size, is a really promising number.

  3. ess-dog

    latke:
    I don’t see TD as ever being a starting caliber point guard because of his mediocre passing, but that doesn’t mean he can’t be a very valuable player.Last season he was a strong defender.So far in the preseason his defense has appeared to be approaching elite status.2.8 steals/36, even in such a small sample size, is a really promising number.  

    It seems like TD was targeted in anticipation of Queen James coming to NYC to be the primary ball handler, in which case, he would’ve fit perfectly at the point with his strong defense and 3 point shooting.

  4. SeeWhyDee77

    I think Douglas is gonna be alright. He’s perfect for the role we have him in right now. Defender/sparkplug off the bench who isn’t needed to run an offense full time. Over time he may develop into a starter and I hope he works dilligently at it, but you gotta love this kid. HE PRACTICALLY SALIVATES WITH ANTICIPATION ON THE DEFENSIVE END!! Not only does he love playing, and is great at defense..he’s better on offense than say a Randy Brown or Charlie Ward. Charlie Ward did develop somewhat into a servicable offensive player and he was a much better passer-but give TD some time, he’ll catch up. But I wanna talk about tonite’s game. I think tonight is the exact reason why Walsh shouldn’t consider moving Chandler for JUST Rudy Fernandez. Chandler problee starts the 4 tonight. Rudy just plays one position and right now he doesn’t even do that better than Chandler. And by all accounts, AR isn’t doing too well thus far which means we’ll problee need Chandler’s versatility more than initially thought. I’m interested in seein Felton work his way into better shape and if he can get better acclimated into the offense, and I do wanna see more Fields and AR tonite. Should be interesting to see Mike D’s rotation.

  5. ess-dog

    cgreene: Douglas starting at 2…  

    That will be a tough assignment against Ray Allen. I’ve never seen a team with what could be considered 4 equal talents – Douglas, Mason, Walker and Chandler – all fighting for one spot. Unless he finds his shooting form, I would put Mason a bit behind the rest, and it sounds like D’Antoni is trying to find a more productive spot for Chandler…

  6. Z

    ess-dog:
    I’ve never seen a team with what could be considered 4 equal talents – Douglas, Mason, Walker and Chandler – all fighting for one spot.Unless he finds his shooting form, I would put Mason a bit behind the rest…   

    This from todays NY Post:

    “With coach Mike D’Antoni’s concern growing about the team’s outside shooting and speed, the Knicks coach is strongly considering using Stoudemire at center, enabling the club to stick another shooter into the lineup in the backcourt — likely the impressive Roger Mason.”

    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/center_of_attention_ytQgmskEbLpUDcB81DXTPM#ixzz12ZEW9IGx

  7. BigBlueAL

    Damnit, was hoping the game was on League Pass. Wed night’s game was and every night there are a couple of pre-season games on for free.

  8. Z-man

    Felton and Gallo playing very well. Randolph a bit better. Here’s a shocker, Mozgov in foul trouble. Chandler very solid. Hustle on D is tremendous. Very entertaining in the 3rd q.

  9. Z-man

    OK, so it’s clear that we’re not as good as the Celts, especially w/o Amar’e. Still, there are some things that came out of these two games.

    The Good:
    1. DEE-FENCE is back!
    2. Felton and Gallo took a step forward today, Gallo drove more and Felton played like a starting caliber P
    3. WC shoots well again, increasing his value in a potential trade or making him worth keeping, at least for now.
    4. Mozgov makes some nice plays
    5. Fields is a keeper
    6. Amar’e is a monster on O

    The Bad:
    1. Turiaf really is not very good, if we need him for more than 15 mpg, we’re in trouble
    2. Randolph has a single-digit b-ball IQ
    3. Mason sucks

    The Ugly:
    1. Mozgov may avg > 1 foul per minute
    2. Rebounding is piss-poor
    3. Rebounding is piss-poor

    Washington should be a better test. Let’s hope Randolph and Mozgov improve, or we’re in big trouble.

  10. latke

    DS: OK I’ll be the one to say it and probably jinx it. Chandler is looking like he can really shoot!!

    His form looks different — he’s shooting more from in front of his body. He also seems to have sped up his release.

    Douglas looked pretty awful out there. Not only was he not making good passes, but he was taking bad shots as well. Mozgov and Fields were the only effective parts of that second unit. If only fields could shoot, I’d definitely push for him to have a spot in the rotation. AR continues to look pretty terrible, although i don’t know why D’Antoni couldn’t give him burn in the fourth. It’s not like it could have been much uglier.

  11. Z

    Wow. There were some sorry-ass lines in the box score tonight:

    TD 0-7; TM 2 rebounds; RT 3 pts 2 rebounds, 1 assist in 21 minutes.

    How does our ENTIRE front-court combine for only 14 rebounds?!

    If our preseason stats translate to the regular season, we could be the worst rebounding team in NBA history…

  12. Silversprings

    On another note, anybody thinking of creating a knickerblogger fantasy league like last year?

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