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Friday, April 18, 2014

2011 Playoffs: Knicks vs. Celtics, Game 2

Game  Thread.

459 comments on “2011 Playoffs: Knicks vs. Celtics, Game 2

  1. Michael Cline

    Ugh, what a terrible start to this game. If we get blown out tonight, this series might be over, even going back to NY. Douglas is still the key, and with two fouls, it’s not looking good

  2. Mike R

    did anyone just hear steve kerr talk about jeffries and how important he is to this team defensively and offensively?? dude does nothing well except take charges and not score

  3. Doug

    Mike R:
    did anyone just hear steve kerr talk about jeffries and how important he is to this team defensively and offensively?? dude does nothing well except take charges and not score

    Right on cue, Jeffries scores.

  4. cgreene

    Just way over hyped. Throwing up wild shit. Jesus. Gonna be one of those games where we hit some 3s in the 2nd half, get within 3 or 4 and then fold. Darnit!

  5. art vandelay

    I don’t like the team’s demeanor AT ALL….especially STAT’s…looks dead….melo looks amped but the rest look defeated already.

  6. Doug

    art vandelay:
    I don’t like the team’s demeanor AT ALL….especially STAT’s…looks dead….melo looks amped but the rest look defeated already.

    You think it’s because of no Billups?

  7. ww007

    Ugh, poor D on Rondo, missed free throws. Knicks not off to a good start. Plus Celtics already getting away with fouls… Pierce with a blatant shove on Landry, pushing him to the floor and no call. Typical Knicks vs Celtics game.

  8. ww007

    Wow, we got a goal tending call, miraculous! Good sign is Melo taking it to the rack and not settling for jumpers.

  9. Michael Cline

    WOw, double team prayer job by ANthony off the glass from a crazy angle. That’s just crazy shit right there

  10. ww007

    Nice shot by Melo, and 1!

    I have a feeling it’s gonna be the opposite of game 1 where he does well but Stat does poorly.

  11. Owen

    Was going to say the same thing about Jeffries. I don’t think I have ever heard his “skills” portrayed so favorably.

    To be fair, he actually isn’t terrible all things considered, all things meaning Carmelo and Amare being huge usage guys…

  12. Jake S.

    The Knicks were heinous that quarter and they’re only down 2. We’re winning this f-ing game. Andiamo!

  13. art vandelay

    I feared coming into this game that Melo would go off but STAT would be sub-par…basically the reverse of game 1…I think they need both to play well in order to win this one when all is said and done

    go ny go ny go!

  14. Spree8nyk8

    I had to step out for a sec and when I came back in Amar’e was out, was this just a normal rest or did anything happen?

  15. Mike R

    there are literally 5-10 times during the game that big baby should be called for 3 seconds. i noticed the last couple time we played them…. amare is wayyy off right now

  16. Michael Cline

    Great block by Jeffries with the help.

    then Shawn -E hits the tres-ball. loving it now! SUch an up and down team to be a fan of

  17. Michael Cline

    I am perfectly happy to let Rondo shoot 15 footers, or to hammer him everytime he takes it into the lane.

  18. Michael Cline

    How did we just get that call? lol these refs are crazy

    But at least we get the lucky call instead of the other way around like last game

  19. Mike R

    it would be nice if we could get a stellar performance from landry tonight… it would be real nice

  20. ww007

    Jim Cavan:
    Bill Walker finally gets that call. Good omen?

    Yeah seriously…he was clearly bumped and lost his balance, glad we’re finally getting SOME calls (knock on wood).

  21. Doug

    It is about time we started fouling Rondo hard.

    Also, I think that’s the first time I’ve seen Bill Walker not get called for a charge.

  22. art vandelay

    Any stellar performance we can get is great, but I think we need a stellar performance from STAT and MELO and then a few decent performances (e.g. key 3s by shawne and walker, maybe douglas) and we can ride this one to victory

  23. Nick C.

    Man what a game!!! I really hope it’s not just b/c Boston has been rotating out their starters.

  24. citizen

    Kerr really singing the praises of Knicks big men today. First Jeffries, now Turiaf haha.

  25. Michael Cline

    Am I the only one who watches Melo’s long jumpers and wonders how the heck it manages to fall in? He always looks so off balance, and fading one way or another. His legs kick all crazy at the bottom.

    Don’t get me wrong, he’s ballin’ — but how?

  26. latke

    Knicks have been the more physical team — the last thing I’d ever expect to be typing.

    Now, if we could just make some of these threes. Anthony’s last notwithstanding, they’ve been open.

  27. Spree8nyk8

    Am I the only person that thinks you can tell everytime when Melo shoots whether it’s going in or not? His good shots just have this particular rotation on them and whenever it has it, it’s deadeye

  28. Doug

    Jake S.:
    Can someone clip Jermaine O’Neal please?

    It’s like in the WWE – if a guy has a knee heavily taped up, it’s a like a bullseye.

  29. Mike R

    whats the deal with all the double teams? i dont think walker should be leaving pierce to double west on the perimeter

  30. art vandelay

    completely agree with you, spree…though he does get an occasional in and out on some that seem dead on (like his second to last 3 in game 1)

  31. Doug

    Michael Cline:
    Am I the only one who watches Melo’s long jumpers and wonders how the heck it manages to fall in? He always looks so off balance, and fading one way or another. His legs kick all crazy at the bottom.

    Don’t get me wrong, he’s ballin’ — but how?

    Melo doesn’t kick his legs unless he’s really off balance. He’s no T-Mac.

  32. Spree8nyk8

    Man it might be better to end the half with a five point lead as opposed to a double digit lead honestly.

  33. Jim Cavan Post author

    Did I read that right? We’re outrebounding them 20-6 in the last 12 minutes?

  34. Spree8nyk8

    That foul was like some weird subplot from Lost that will just never ever be explained.

  35. BigBlueAL

    Doug:
    gahhh what is Carter doing taking any shots ever

    Get used to it because the Celtics are going to double and triple team Melo for the rest of this game.

  36. art vandelay

    this amazingly looks like knicks-heat circa 1997-2000….just ugly all around basketball….tight defense…no way this game makes 100 more than likely…which benefits boston.

  37. Jim Cavan Post author

    Amar’e having back spasms? What’s the typical rate of return for something like that?

  38. Spree8nyk8

    For the last 2 mins of this half with the way it’s going offensively, Melo has greenlight from anywhere past halfcourt, because at least a bad shot by Melo is gonna go in sometimes.

  39. BigBlueAL

    According to Hahn and Isola D’Antoni ordered for a foul because Amar’e was hurting and he wanted to take a timeout after the foul. But didnt want TD to commit the foul.

  40. CRJoe

    STAT is really annoying me… No effort at all on the offensive glass and can’t even get in front of O’neal to stop him from getting all those offensive rebounds, he has 3 already and is not because of hustle, he just walks to the rim and grabs the miss with no opposition whatsoever… God I miss Z-Bo…

  41. Caleb

    “questionable to return.” Ouch.

    Nice to see Glen Davis trying to guard Carmelo on the perimeter.

    O-foul on Garnett. Ha!

  42. art vandelay

    knicks seem to always be snake-bitten by crucial playoff injuries and bizarr-o events….this would be about the time ewing’s achilles would give out, or LJ would be decked against the pacers and useless in finals…or marcus camby’s relatives would be abducted…or pj brown would flip charlies ward…list goes on and on and makes me sick!

  43. Caleb

    Not to be a downer but I would think the Heat are licking their chops watching this series.

  44. Brian Cronin

    i actually wouldnt mind if melo shoots 40 times tonight cuz who the hell else is going to

    Toney? Extra E?

    But yeah, basically.

  45. Brian Cronin

    Great play by Rondo to try to get that foul. I thought he was going to get it called!

  46. Spree8nyk8

    Caleb:
    Not to be a downer but I would think the Heat are licking their chops watching this series.

    Honestly do any of us care really? I mean getting past Boston would be so huge I wouldn’t give a fuck if they swept us. I mean I’d hope we’d compete but I wanted us to play Boston so we could end that franchise. I want people retiring after this.

  47. ww007

    Brian Cronin:
    Great play by Rondo to try to get that foul. I thought he was going to get it called!

    yeah why the hell if JJ even trying to guard Rondo there??? Just let him chuck it for god’s sake.

  48. Jake S.

    They’re still winning this f-ing game. I think this Boston team sucks. They’re playing even with a bunch of replacement players and the Knicks have the best player on the court.

  49. Jim Cavan Post author

    Brian Cronin:
    Great play by Rondo to try to get that foul. I thought he was going to get it called!

    It was stupid. That could easily have been called an offensive.

  50. Michael Cline

    Big Baby with 3 is good. He’ll have to sit a significant portion of the 3rd with Shaq still on the mend, and Jermain O’Neal looking pretty poor.

    But yeah, if STAT doesn’t get into this game, it’s going to be nothing but 3′s from here on out. And they are going to double and triple Melo

  51. Frank

    You know what? we can win this series. Boston is just not very good. Basically no Amare, no Chauncey Billups, TD playing like crap, and we’re STILL up?

    And gotta hand it to JJ — he and Carmelo are our MVPs right now. JJ with good D on Rondo, lots of contests, quick doubles, and even hit 2 shots?

  52. Spree8nyk8

    ww007: yeah why the hell if JJ even trying to guard Rondo there??? Just let him chuck it for god’s sake.

    He wasn’t he was running back and Rondo tried to stop and then back up into him to get a cheap one.

  53. Mike R

    Brian Cronin: Toney? Extra E?

    But yeah, basically.

    toney hasnt shown up yet.. hes gonna drop 20 in the second half tho and carry us to victory. i got a feeling

  54. cgreene

    I’m kinda speechless. Melo, best half of his career? Jeffries the same? Knicks playing like it’s 1993. WTF is going on here? Someone explain to me please.

  55. Brian Cronin

    It was stupid. That could easily have been called an offensive.

    It is in Boston, there was no way that would have been called an offensive foul. It was either going to be no call or a defensive foul.

  56. citizen

    OK, so if you’re D’Antoni what do you do with STAT?

    Given that:
    - He can play, but would not be 100% effective
    - Putting him in would risk aggravating the injury and endangering him for Game 3
    - The longer you wait to put him back in the worse his effectiveness will be (back spasms become progressively more painful as you sit longer)

    Tough choices…

  57. Brian Cronin

    It was amazing how perfect Melo had to make his pass for Jeffries to be able to put it down.

  58. Spree8nyk8

    Frank:
    You know what? we can win this series. Boston is just not very good.Basically no Amare, no Chauncey Billups, TD playing like crap, and we’re STILL up?

    And gotta hand it to JJ — he and Carmelo are our MVPs right now. JJ with good D on Rondo, lots of contests, quick doubles, and even hit 2 shots?

    It’s what I’ve been saying for the last 2 weeks of the season. Everyone was so adamant because of what happened (i don’t mean here I mean everywhere) last year that they felt like it was the rule instead of the exception. I felt like last year Boston had a team of destiny type of run. This year they aren’t nearly as strong, they have just had our number.

  59. Brian Cronin

    OK, so if you’re D’Antoni what do you do with STAT?

    Couldn’t you have him work out in the training room to test the back out without sitting down?

  60. art vandelay

    they need some HUGE 3s from TD, shawne and bill… in second half without question…and melo has to continue his all-around fantastic play….

    I guess we will have to mostly win this game with our defense…NEVER thought I would say that in any game this season, let alone a playoff game against boston.

  61. Mike R

    we really could beat this team… im with spree – lets end this franchise and put them in the retirement home

  62. Caleb

    citizen:
    OK, so if you’re D’Antoni what do you do with STAT?

    Given that:
    - He can play, but would not be 100% effective
    - Putting him in would risk aggravating the injury and endangering him for Game 3
    - The longer you wait to put him back in the worse his effectiveness will be (back spasms become progressively more painful as you sit longer)

    Tough choices…

    In my experience back spasms get better when you exercise, as the muscles loosen up. Hopefully enough for him to get in. Bring out the heating pad!

  63. citizen

    Brian Cronin: Couldn’t you have him work out in the training room to test the back out without sitting down?

    Haha true I completely forgot about that. So maybe keeping him warmed up but not in the game unless it’s late and close is the best option.

  64. CRJoe

    Well, we could try to start the second half with JJ, Melo, Extra E, DWTDD and Walker/Fields and see how long we can hold up before sending Amar’e in… It wouldn’t be the worse line up D’Antoni has used in the last couple of weeks…

  65. Frank

    IF we can somehow pull this game out, THAT might break the Celtics. We’re running Melo, a guy who used to be their 12th man (Walker), Anthony “I guarded Oscar Robertson I’m that old” Carter, Jared Jefferies, Roger Mason, castoff Shawne Williams. I mean, this may be the worst lineup in the history of the playoffs. If we can somehow pull this out, then they HAVE to be thinking “we got a gift from the refs in game 1, then in game 2 they’re missing 2 of the 3 best players and we lost at home?!??!?”

  66. Robert Silverman

    With you in spirit guys – but doing a running diary that’ll be up on KB later tonight & I can’t type in two places at once. Go team.

  67. ww007

    Good signs at the half:
    -Melo having a great game.
    -Knicks out-boarding the Celtics.
    -we’re playing good D.
    -we’re up 1 despite shooting poorly, with misses on wide open jumpers.

    Bad signs:
    -Amare might not be back.
    -we’re missing open shots, especially 3′s.
    -no one is stopping Rondo in the paint.

    Hopefully the negatives will turn around in the 2nd half!

  68. d-mar

    Boston’s offense looks SOOOO stagnant. Credit our D somewhat, but they’re all standing around and the shot clock gets under 10 and they end up taking a bad shot. To me the player I worry about the most is Allen, the other guys just don’t scare me.

    C’mon Knicks, shock the world!

  69. CRJoe

    One positive is that ‘Melo played less than 20 minutes, so he could be in almost the entire second half… Maybe take him out 3 or 4 minutes to catch his breath, and put Amar’e in for those minutes…

  70. Mike R

    that segment on tnt halftime with melo asking barkley a question should have went like this – hey chuck whats up? go fuck yourself you knick hating sob.

  71. Jake S.

    On a separate note, I really miss Marv Albert. I’ve been eating a madeleine for the past 72 minutes of game action.

  72. Jim Cavan Post author

    Please just get Fields out of there. I’m wearing the guy’s shirt, but he’s just in over his head right now.

  73. Kikuchiyo

    Jake S.:
    On a separate note, I really miss Marv Albert. I’ve been eating a madeleine for the past 72 minutes of game action.

    Gotta love New York fans: a Proust reference during a playoff game!

  74. ww007

    Mike R:
    whats up with fields man

    I think he’s just really nervous being in his 1st playoff series. Hopefully he can get some confidence back.

  75. Doug

    Mike R:
    landry’s got to sit we cant afford the mistakes right now not tonight

    Dude just killed all of our momentum dead. He looks completely lost on offense. None of his cuts are working. Do you think he’d be better camping out in the corner?

  76. art vandelay

    Fields is a shell of his former self…really sad….trade value has plummeted after it was at such a high prior to melo trade….he looks like deer in headlights…I think billy walker needs to take his minutes NOW!

  77. ww007

    What I really hate is Celtics messing up on D and giving Knicks open looks = missed jumpers by Knicks. Knicks do the same = made jumpers and 3′s by Celtics.

  78. Spree8nyk8

    Doug: Dude just killed all of our momentum dead. He looks completely lost on offense. None of his cuts are working. Do you think he’d be better camping out in the corner?

    Yeah in the corner of the bench

  79. cgreene

    Well we put up a great effort tonight. Credit them for going down fighting.

    Btw Clyde keeps mentioning how tired Melo looks etc. One thing that def seems to be true is that Melo is not the best conditioned player.

  80. ww007

    It’s ok… you figure Celtics are gonna make a run. Knicks weathering the storm right now.

  81. Mike R

    how dare you bill walker push one of the boston big three? your whole pay check will go to david stern for the next 2 years

  82. citizen

    art vandelay:
    Fields is a shell of his former self…really sad….trade value has plummeted after it was at such a high prior to melo trade….he looks like deer in headlights…I think billy walker needs to take his minutes NOW!

    Bully has been a liability today.

  83. ww007

    Jim Cavan:
    A technical? Really?

    I’m just glad they didn’t wave off the 3 by Melo…could’ve easily been an offensive foul, canceling out the basket.

  84. latke

    the celtics have played about as well as they can play this quarter. If we can put a little run in here to close out the quarter, finish up or ahead, I feel like it would be a real psychological blow.

  85. CRJoe

    And that’s the game, we’re not getting over that… 6 points difference, DWTDD with 4 fouls??? Let’s just start clearing cap space for 2012…

  86. Jake S.

    Where’s the F is Shelden Williams? How many crappy swingmen do we have to play at the same time? Let’s bring in a crappy big man just to mix it up a little.

  87. Nick C.

    How are the Knicks only down 6 it seems like everything. Boston has shit has gone in? I will choose to look at that as a positive.

  88. BigBlueAL

    Melo played with better teammates in high school than what he is playing with tonight w/o Amar’e and Billups lol.

  89. Mike R

    id take gerry macnamara, hakeem warrick, cueth duane, and who ever the hell else played with melo at syracuse over this goof troop… i cant believe we are only down 7

  90. Doug

    Jake S.:
    I’m tired of seeing Ray Allen’s mother and her horrible hair-do.

    Didn’t anybody ever tell you never insult a black woman’s weave?

  91. Brian Cronin

    A couple of points…

    1. Why, in Game 2 of the Playoffs, are Knick players suddenly trying things they rarely did during the season and were bad at when they tried (i.e. Extra E trying to drive on the baseline)?

    2. I get that AC can’t shoot, but neither can Mason, so please play AC over Mason, D’Antoni!

  92. Robert Silverman

    Jake S.:
    Where’s the F is Shelden Williams? How many crappy swingmen do we have to play at the same time? Let’s bring in a crappy big man just to mix it up a little.

    Shelden Williams’ sprained ankle (in the last reg. season game) has to be pretty bad for him not to be out there. Only possible reason

  93. Mike R

    the celtics are shit – that was their best shot and theyre only up 7 against melo and 4 bench players

  94. citizen

    Here are the positive things we learned in this game:
    - Melo can score on the Celtics
    - Everyone on the Knicks seem to be able to bring the intensity defensively and on the boards, at least in this
    - Green sucks and will be a liability on both ends for Boston in this series
    - Refs may not always be ridiculously pro-Boston

  95. Michael Cline

    Hah Melo just pulled a Rondo and got the call. That goes to Citizen’s point #4.

    I agree with all the posters saying how bad Celtics must be for us to still even be in this game. They stand no chance in the next series (if they even beat us)

  96. Jake S.

    I think the lesson to be extracted from this game is that the Celtics are definitely out in the next round. They should be murdering this group.

  97. Jake S.

    That whistle was too late for my liking. Melo should get EVERY foul call from here on in.

  98. Mike R

    so basically if you play for the celtics you can do whatever you want and not get t’d up. anyone on the knicks would have gotten a technical for what fat baby just did

  99. Brian Cronin

    Seriously, if Mason can’t take that shot there is no reason for him to be in the game. Heck, there’s no reason for him to be in the game period with Toney in there. That’s a good question – why is Mason in the game?

  100. ww007

    That was not a back court violation…he didn’t really get possession yet. You can’t call a back court on that kind of play.

  101. d-mar

    To make up for that horrible call on Melo on Baby the refs…..MAKE ANOTHER HORRIBLE CALL ON MELO!! It’s almost surreal.

  102. BigBlueAL

    If I was D’Antoni I wouldve been ejected already for coming onto the court and punching a referee.

  103. ww007

    Brian Cronin:
    Seriously, if Mason can’t take that shot there is no reason for him to be in the game. Heck, there’s no reason for him to be in the game period with Toney in there. That’s a good question – why is Mason in the game?

    It’s OK, he was gonna airball it anyway

  104. latke

    i’m sure mason will be on the bench when play resumes. God, if melo doesn’t get tired we might pull this out.

  105. Mike R

    if it was or was not back court – guarantee espn will be all over that later saying how it should have been back court and how the officiating was poor blah blah blah

  106. Michael Cline

    THese refs are awful. Big Baby is getting away with murder. There Melo just threw an elbow-check at West, and yet West gets called for the foul. This is just inconsistent garbage. When will the NBA crack down on awful refs?

  107. Thomas B.

    wow. Shouldn’t Boston be up by 12 with two of our big three out?
    Damn Carmelo, if you had done this Sunday…

  108. Brian Cronin

    Okay, at least Mason took the open three this time.

    It is rough that Toney is the only Knick who can even sort of keep in front of Rondo, as it means the Knicks have to keep him on Rondo, and he can’t play Rondo too tightly because of the foul trouble.

  109. Mike R

    the way dantoni uses his time outs the rest of this game is enormous… he needs to find ways to get melo some rest without taking him out

  110. Doug

    Mike R:
    the way dantoni uses his time outs the rest of this game is enormous… he needs to find ways to get melo some rest without taking him out

    Next game is on Friday. He can rest until then.

  111. Brian Cronin

    Jeffries is like the walking Tale of Two Cities – great play and then a horribly goofy turnover.

  112. Brian Cronin

    I love Breen’s “Great defensive stand by the Knicks” when Pierce bricks a wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide open three. What a three by Melo!

  113. ww007

    Knicks with a huge break with Pierce missing the 3 then Melo hitting the off-balance 3. After getting bumped by Pierce of course.

  114. Brian Cronin

    I find it extremely hard to believe that this is the best five-man unit for the Knicks to close out the game.

  115. cgreene

    Tony has to drive the fricking ball!!!!! Surprise them!!! Run something else beside Melo from the elbow extended. Jesus!!!

  116. Mike R

    the other 4 knicks on the court right now are playing so scared and nervous one of them has to give us something here please

  117. Thomas B.

    Please put Fields in for RMjr. At least Fields can rebound, which I would think might come in handy right about now. Just a thought. Bill Walker must be wearing RMjr’s shoes tonight. Yikes.

  118. Rmush

    Growing up, watching the euroleague, we kept complaining about officiating and were astonished with the fact that they were pros in the NBA. But guess what? They are no better!

    And just saw jeffries!! !!!!!

  119. Mike R

    i feel like the police will be at my house in about 10 minutes no matter what happens here. ive lost it

  120. Brian Cronin

    I really, really did not like the first timeout (for this exact reason).

    And I don’t mind not doubling so much.

  121. Mike R

    so bostons bench gets to rush the floor during the game??????????????????????????????????????????? again????? u fucking kidding

  122. Brian Cronin

    It’s funny, from watching the Knicks the last few years, I’m well accustomed to insanely bad decisions at the end of the game, so this is almost predictable (although in a playoff game? Pretty rough).

  123. Nick C.

    MF. Melo makes the right play but Jefferies F’s it up. Chickened out on shooting right under the basket. So sad

  124. Brian Cronin

    how do they not chase him and foul?

    My guess was just blown communication (Melo figuring someone else was doing it).

  125. Mike R

    if one of those scrubs stepped up to give melo some sort of help… ive never in my life seen a team double someone everytime like they did on melo in the 4th at the 3 point line. how the hell are you an professional basketball player and cant make an open shot or doing anything productive

  126. ww007

    How about putting Amare in for the last Knicks possession?? Surely he could’ve played ONE pessession???

  127. Kikuchiyo

    Someone explain what Jeffries is doing on the floor when the defense part of the game is over.

  128. Thomas B.

    Nick C.:
    MF. Melo makes the right play but Jefferies F’s it up. Chickened out on shooting right under the basket. So sad

    That is what happens when a poster dares to say that the ghost of Charles Smith has been exorcised.

  129. Brian Cronin

    Someone explain what Jeffries is doing on the floor when the defense part of the game is over.

    Excellent point.

  130. citizen

    I hope Melo doesn’t draw the wrong conclusion from JJ’s f-up and not pass next time that situation comes up again

  131. d-mar

    You know what? As crushing as this loss was, it’s a different series now. The Knicks CAN win both home games, they have no fear of Boston and they just took them down to the wire with 2 starters injured. And maybe we get a few calls in MSG….nah.

  132. tenebrous

    Good game by the Knicks. Really good. Thought they had it. When Boston turns it on nothing can really be done. Don’t understand why you double the whole game and don’t on KG at the end – crazy not to double.

  133. Thomas B.

    Kikuchiyo:
    Someone explain what Jeffries is doing on the floor when the defense part of the game is over.

    Offensive rebound? I don’t know. I’m just typing because if I stop, that short length of rope in the basement might find its way into my hands.

  134. Mike R

    so instead of going back to NY 2-0 we are 0-2. We absolutely should have won both of these games. What would be nice is if we could catch a damn break sometime soon

  135. CapB

    Incredible game by Melo tonight, especially considered he didnt have much help out there offensively

  136. adrenaline98

    Just so you all know, KG tied the game with that hook shot, not take the lead. Another fucking by the ref on that technical on the Walker foul, when he did nothing other than foul Ray Allen.

    What a fucking joke. You can fucking me with a spinning dildo with blades on it and I’d feel better.

  137. DRed

    I still can’t believe that game happened. As great as Carmelo was, I still don’t understand how we almost won.

  138. ww007

    BigBlueAL:
    Id rather have Melo shoot over all 5 players in the end then have that crap happen.

    Then we’d be complaining that he was forcing it…

    But I seriously think Amare could’ve played that last possession at least. I know he would’ve been cold but he def would’ve finished at the rim instead of turning it over.

  139. tastycakes

    Injuries aside, somebody on that bench was responsible for:

    - Jeffries being instrumental in 3 consecutive crunch time offensive possessions. (Fools gold bucket be damned)
    - No timeouts remaining.
    - No foul with 4 seconds left and down only 1.

    That is some shitball end of game execution.

    Still, an unbelievable ballgame. I now believe we could beat this team in a 7 game series if we were healthy.

  140. Thomas B.

    Jake S.:
    exorcised

    No Jake you were right the first time when you said “exercised” because that ghost was just getting warmed up. Sigh. FML.

  141. Thomas B.

    Jake S.:
    Don’t turn me into Bartman, Thomas B.

    It’s all love Jake. We are all in this together…sadly. :-)

    Hey buck up everybody. We are jut two plays from a 2-0 lead. I think if we can get any bench support, we can win at least two of the next three.

  142. Doug

    Melo couldn’t pull out the miracle in the end. It would have been one of the greatest carry jobs in history.

    Wasn’t Charles Smith supposed to actually be good? I was too young to remember those early 90s series.

    We had better blow Boston out of the building on Friday night.

  143. Mike R

    bill walker fucking sucks thats how that happens.. theres a reason why he was the 37th man on boston

  144. BigBlueAL

    Lets be real though, this is not a game to put blame on anybody. They were out-manned yet played their asses off and almost pulled off a miracle.

    I just hope they win at least 1 game in NY because this team has played too hard and dont deserve to get swept.

  145. Shad0wF0x

    I honestly don’t feel that much pain at all over this loss. I mean it’s a loss but Amar’e is injured, Billups was out, Toney was missing shots, Fields has been caught on a bear trap or something.

  146. ww007

    As much as I hated the result, D’Antoni actually drew up a good play at the end there. He knew the Celtics were gonna double Melo with JJ’s man, so he sends JJ and another player to the hoop. It was basically a 2 on 1 situation at the rim; Garnett just made a great play and knocked the pass away. Of course it doesn’t help that it was JJ handling the ball in that situation…

    I hate to say this, but I don’t think we’re winning this series, regardless of how closely we’ve played them thus far. These two games were our best chances of stealing this series, and we and the officials blew them. It’s easy to say, “Look how close we were to winning both games!” But that’s just it… that’s why teams like the Celtics always manage to pull these games out against inferior teams (let’s not kid ourselves here). We’re probably not as close as we think…

    I just take comfort in the fact that they’re gonna get blown out by the Heat in the next round. They’ll see what it feels like when calls and no-calls go in favor of the OTHER team’s superstars.

    Wow, can’t believe I’m actually gonna be rooting for the Heat…

  147. Rmush

    CapB:
    Shawne Williams and Landry Fields have completely disappeared btw.

    what blows me off is how Walker seems lost although now he is getting his minutes. he should be more aggressive and instead of pulling of Melo imitations with crazy jumpers, should instead take it to the hoop each time to do what he does the best: get to the line!

    on a different note, although i hated (and still hate) “the trade”, i love having a superstar like Melo, who can take over a game like that. hope he has some left in the tank as we have to win on Friday!

  148. Spree8nyk8

    All they did was hold serve. They got a ton of zebra help in game 1 and an injury break in game 2. Sooner or later luck is going to run out. We are gonna go home and get healthy and we are going to get back in this. I do not believe for a second that a Boston team that needs those kind of breaks on their home court is going to be able to hold them off. We could easily be up 2-0 on the way to a sweep. We can just as easily work our way back into this series.

    I know I’m an eternal optimist. But I don’t think that is overly optimistic. I think that is being real. We’ve been as unlucky as we could be those first 2 games.

  149. Z-man

    let’s see, Mets loss to Cards in game 7 and choking in subsequent stretch runs, Jets losing twice in conference championship game, and now these two games. Why do I continue to follow sports?

    That said, heroic effort from Melo and the gang tonight. For a team derided for its defense, they left it all on the floor on both ends. Can anyone still not be somewhat optimistic about the next couple of years?

  150. nicos

    Seemed like D’A used a couple of timeouts earlier than he’d have liked to get Melo some rest in the 4th. Agree that jeffries shouldn’t have been in there but who would you have played? No one really left on the bench- tough to put in Williams, Fields, or AC as even when they were in the flow of the game they were invisible. The Celtics obviously were going to force somebody besides Melo or Douglas to take that shot.

  151. rohank

    BigBlueAL:
    Lets be real though, this is not a game to put blame on anybody.They were out-manned yet played their asses off and almost pulled off a miracle.

    I just hope they win at least 1 game in NY because this team has played too hard and dont deserve to get swept.

    This will be the first time I’ve ever written this, but I blame D’Antoni a LOT for this loss.

    1) The lack of a well-executable play with multiple options at the end – KNOWING Melo will get doubled.
    2) Offense-Defense substitutions (should have been Turiaf on Garnett on that hook shot near the end).
    3) Clock and situational awareness (this has been a problem time and TIME again (no pun intended)).

  152. BigBlueAL

    Walker was 0 for 11 and had some dumb plays but unlike Fields he didnt play scared and stayed aggressive and physical. Finished with 8 rebs, 2 stls and lead the team with a + 10.

    Fields was worst on team with a – 13 in only 15 mins.

  153. Doug

    rohank: This will be the first time I’ve ever written this, but I blame D’Antoni a LOT for this loss.

    1) The lack of a well-executable play with multiple options at the end – KNOWING Melo will get doubled.
    2) Offense-Defense substitutions (should have been Turiaf on Garnett on that hook shot near the end).
    3) Clock and situational awareness (this has been a problem time and TIME again (no pun intended)).

    You’ve got to be kidding me. He kept the team in the game down to the wire without two of his best players.

  154. ww007

    nicos:
    Seemed like D’A used a couple of timeouts earlier than he’d have liked to get Melo some rest in the 4th.Agree that jeffries shouldn’t have been in there but who would you have played?No one really left on the bench- tough to put in Williams, Fields, or AC as even when they were in the flow of the game they were invisible.The Celtics obviously were going to force somebody besides Melo or Douglas to take that shot.

    Like I mentioned earlier, I would’ve put Amare in there. I’m sure he could’ve toughed it out for one possession.

    If not, was Turiaf on the floor? I would’ve had a lot more confidence with him there in place of JJ.

  155. BigBlueAL

    rohank: This will be the first time I’ve ever written this, but I blame D’Antoni a LOT for this loss.

    1) The lack of a well-executable play with multiple options at the end – KNOWING Melo will get doubled.
    2) Offense-Defense substitutions (should have been Turiaf on Garnett on that hook shot near the end).
    3) Clock and situational awareness (this has been a problem time and TIME again (no pun intended)).

    I believe Turiaf got hurt. I read a tweet from one of the writers saying Turaif was limping badly before he was taken out so he might have been too hurt to return.

  156. BigBlueAL

    Honestly D’Antoni should be praised for keeping this team in this game. As I mentioned above no player or coach should be blamed for this loss.

  157. Z-man

    Credit the Celts with two monster defensive plays…the TD strip by Rondo and the JJ strip by KG…not to mention the clutch baby hook by KG.

  158. Spree8nyk8

    I’m not sure why that would be a bad call by MDA on the last play, they got it to jeffries at the rim with walker cutting down the lane and Garnett just made a great defensive play. I mean I hate it but you have to give it to them. They survived and won. I don’t think it was a bad play. JJ gave them the lead just before that, and I’m definitely not saying that JJ is anything remotely close to a go to guy, but if you know his man is going to double and you’ll be able to easily feed him at the rim I think you have to do it. If garnett doesn’t make a great defensive play that’s a flush or that pass gets to BW for a flush. It was just well defended and/or not perfectly executed. But I’d credit the defense there.

  159. Jake S.

    I love you all. The universe is random and cruel, but at least we have each other. We’re fighting the good, existential fight here.

  160. ww007

    rohank: This will be the first time I’ve ever written this, but I blame D’Antoni a LOT for this loss.

    1) The lack of a well-executable play with multiple options at the end – KNOWING Melo will get doubled.
    2) Offense-Defense substitutions (should have been Turiaf on Garnett on that hook shot near the end).
    3) Clock and situational awareness (this has been a problem time and TIME again (no pun intended)).

    ww007: Like I mentioned earlier, I would’ve put Amare in there. I’m sure he could’ve toughed it out for one possession.

    If not, was Turiaf on the floor? I would’ve had a lot more confidence with him there in place of JJ.

    No, D’Antoni is def not to blame this game. Two of his big 3 out… See post #381 for why I thought the last play was well drawn, just wrong personnel.

    And I’m not sure Turiaf would’ve been a better defender in that situation. JJ at least has the length to bother Garnett. I think he could’ve pulled the chair from under him though… Garnett was definitely bulldozing his way inside. But in the end it was a well contested shot that he was not all that close to the rim; he just made the shot. You can argue for double teaming, but I’m sure they would’ve found an open Pierce or Allen for 3.

    I agree with the timeouts… he could’ve saved one of those for the end but I don’t think it would’ve mattered.

  161. Frank

    oh well. i seriously think that would have been the greatest win in playoff history, 1st round or not, if we had won that game. We seriously had one guy (Melo) who would even be in the Celtics 8 man rotation. We had the best player and they had the next 8.

    meanwhile, we get screwed by the zebras again. watch the KG TO again – the guy who awarded the timeout was way out of possession in front of the celtics bench – had to run over well after the play was over to see whether KG even had the ball. by that point, JJ already had his hand on the ball. I don’t know what he based the TO on – KG had possession of the ball for about .001 seconds before JJ had his hand on it too. should’ve been a held ball.

  162. nicos

    You have to wonder what Dolan thinks of these loses- Do the Knicks have to win a game or two to keep Donnie and D’A here? Really hope Knicks get healthy- you have to think if they can just find a way to get over the hump they still have a shot to win the series.

  163. micdan

    in game like this i’m wondering why we let kelena azubuke go. he would have been of great help because of his defenses and his 3 pts shot. but whatever great game we could not have ask for more when we have billups and stoudmire out. boston always finds a way to beat us on a last second shot, we cant get a break, lets see how we do on game 3.

  164. Rmush

    BigBlueAL:
    Honestly D’Antoni should be praised for keeping this team in this game.As I mentioned above no player or coach should be blamed for this loss.

    I watched this post game interview and they asked D’antoni if he was angry with the team. He made a point saying that he was just very proud! I guess we should all be at the end of such an effort!

  165. citizen

    Frank:
    oh well.i seriously think that would have been the greatest win in playoff history, 1st round or not, if we had won that game.We seriously had one guy (Melo) who would even be in the Celtics 8 man rotation. We had the best player and they had the next 8.

    meanwhile, we get screwed by the zebras again. watch the KG TO again – the guy who awarded the timeout was way out of possession in front of the celtics bench – had to run over well after the play was over to see whether KG even had the ball. by that point, JJ already had his hand on the ball. I don’t know what he based the TO on – KG had possession of the ball for about .001 seconds before JJ had his hand on it too. should’ve been a held ball.

    Don’t forget about the Boston bench-clearing

  166. Frank

    Meanwhile, monster performance by Melo. 42, 17, 6, and 2, with 1 turnover in 44 minutes. This was an LBJ – at his best – level of performance. I don’t think we can question whether he has it in him. Question is how often and how badly he wants to do this on a nightly basis.

  167. Brian Cronin

    in game like this i’m wondering why we let kelena azubuke go. he would have been of great help because of his defenses and his 3 pts shot. but whatever great game we could not have ask for more when we have billups and stoudmire out. boston always finds a way to beat us on a last second shot, we cant get a break, lets see how we do on game 3.

    Asubuike would not have been healthy for the playoffs. Note that no one else picked him up.

  168. ww007

    Brian Cronin: Asubuike would not have been healthy for the playoffs. Note that no one else picked him up.

    Even if he were healthy for the playoffs, it’s kinda hard to just throw someone in there when he hasn’t played THE WHOLE SEASON.

  169. Brian Cronin

    I only “blame” D’Antoni for the timeout on back of the Celtics’ timeout. It wasn’t even like they saw the Celtics’ alignment and then called a T, they just called their T right away on top of the Celtics’ T, leaving the Knicks with just one timeout (which ended up being very costly). Bad call by D’Antoni, but yeah, he did a very nice job keeping everyone energized and committed to the team together.

  170. rohank

    Doug: You’ve got to be kidding me. He kept the team in the game down to the wire without two of his best players.

    First of all, MELO kept us in the game. Secondly, as I outlined above, coaching mistakes have been made that should have been easily avoided. Maybe “blame” is too strong a word. Like I said – in the past I’ve never sided with the “fire D’antoni” crowd.

  171. Jake S.

    Wait till next year. I hope they can parlay Billups into a few pieces. Maybe Chauncey and a draft pick for Augustin and Stephen Jackson’s bad contract?

  172. micdan

    Brian Cronin: Asubuike would not have been healthy for the playoffs. Note that no one else picked him up.

    well before they let him go i read that he was practicing so it was matter of time that he get on game condition. but whatever i understand your point.
    if he was healthy he would have been of great help.

  173. d-mar

    Take Rondo and Garnett off the Celtics against a healthy Knick team and how do you think they would do? We should be very proud of our squad, they’re not backing down and are playing their hearts out.

  174. BigBlueAL

    micdan: well before they let him go i read that he was practicing so it was matter of time that he get on game condition. but whatever i understand your point.
    if he was healthy he would have been of great help.

    He had another knee surgery after he was released.

  175. Frank

    Meanwhile- Toney Douglas was just awful tonight. Played badly on offense and was completely overmatched by Rondo, who had what, 14 layups? He and Landry look like maybe this is a bit too big for them.

  176. Spree8nyk8

    idk man I know you guys hate pep talks, but fuck man, pick your heads up. We have had every possible unlucky thing happen that could possibly happen and we not only could be, but we SHOULD be up 2-0. Do ANY of you really think that this team with the way they are playing Boston right now can’t come out and beat Boston friday? I can easily see us sending them back to Boston for game 5 tied 2-2.

    ALL THEY DID WAS HOLD SERVE. Now we just need to do the same. When Amar’e goes down early and Billups is already out we are supposed to lose by 20, not lose a lead with 11 seconds left. They battled back from an 11 pt deficit with THOSE guys.

    Yes, I’m bummed because we should be sweeping these luckboxes. But we are not in nearly as bad of shape as it seems.

    CRJoe made a simple plea for nobody to post firsties lol, and although it is completely contrary to my nature I abliged that simple request. My simple request to you is to not go negative right now. If they go down 3-0 and you wanna do it, by all means. But I really like this board except when it’s just a super negative place to be. Pick each other up and stay positive. BC this team right now is playing with the heart of the 90′s teams. And that should be inspiring.

    Please?

  177. micdan

    ww007: Even if he were healthy for the playoffs, it’s kinda hard to just throw someone in there when he hasn’t played THE WHOLE SEASON.

    ajap that true but i thought and believed that he was practicing with the team before been cut. he easily could have play at least the last 10 to 15 games but whatever what is done is done. maybe there is a reason why no one pick him up

  178. Z-man

    Are you really serious about Azu? Give me a break. That could be the single most ill-informed comment I have read here all year. Sorry, but it just is. I’m surprised Brian dignified it with an answer.

    Damn, we were so relaxed at this time of year for the last decade…

    One other positive, the Knicks are looking like a fun, gritty team to play for, maybe some mid-level types will take notice…

  179. ww007

    d-mar:
    Take Rondo and Garnett off the Celtics against a healthy Knick team and how do you think they would do? We should be very proud of our squad, they’re not backing down and are playing their hearts out.

    Yeah tough loss but I agree… great effort from the Knicks and especially Melo. For once I don’t think the refs were totally to blame…I think the calls in the game kind of evened out at the end.

    I’ll be happy just winning a couple of games this series… we know that anything we get this season is just gravy. I just hope they can pull off a good overhaul of the roster in the off-season…

  180. Jake S.

    Good point, Frank. Landry didn’t even sniff the court in that 4th quarter. They really could have used another competent body out there. Sigh.

  181. BigBlueAL

    Jake S.:
    Good point, Frank. Landry didn’t even sniff the court in that 4th quarter. They really could have used another competent body out there. Sigh.

    Fields was the worst player on the Knicks tonight, last game and for the past couple of weeks. He is not even a competent body anymore.

  182. Jim Cavan Post author

    Stat of the night: Bill Walker 0-11, to go along with a team high +10. Soak that one up.

  183. micdan

    Z-man:
    Are you really serious about Azu? Give me a break. That could be the single most ill-informed comment I have read here all year.Sorry, but it just is.I’m surprised Brian dignified it with an answer.

    jaja give me a break it was just a though. he played great with the warriors before he got injured. i just though that we should have let him on the team just in case.

    Damn, we were so relaxed at this time of year for the last decade…

    One other positive, the Knicks are looking like a fun, gritty team to play for, maybe some mid-level types will take notice…

  184. BigBlueAL

    Jim Cavan:
    Stat of the night: Bill Walker 0-11, to go along with a team high +10. Soak that one up.

    He rebounded well and played good D??

  185. Thomas B.

    BigBlueAL: He rebounded well and played good D??

    Stupid pushing foul on Allen though. Still, he probably did more than Fields would have of late.

  186. knicksfan6

    Another rigged game nice, loved how Pierce was allowed to just hold Melo for half of the 4th quarter, but god forbid Melo got tired of Pierce grabbing his balls and pushed his hand away 5 fts for Pierce.

  187. d-mar

    BTW, Boston’s bench really sucks, our crappy bench outscored them 25-14. And to show how worthless +/- is, Walker was +10 and Melo was -5.

  188. nicos

    You have to wonder how much playing time Fields is going to see for the rest of the series- Mason did a very good job on Allen and despite his awful shooting night (and taking a horrible Tech) Walker is really competing on every possession. At least it looks like AC may have fallen out of the rotation.

  189. Jake S.

    BigBlueAL
    April 19, 2011 at 10:40 pm
    Jake S.:
    Good point, Frank. Landry didn’t even sniff the court in that 4th quarter. They really could have used another competent body out there. Sigh.

    Fields was the worst player on the Knicks tonight, last game and for the past couple of weeks. He is not even a competent body anymore.

    Oh, I totally agree. I think I was lamenting the fact that Fields has gone Private Pile.

  190. Mike R

    has there every been anyone more prone to minor injuries that are enough to make him miss a game or two then turiaf? dude claps and sprains a finger, laughs and gets a migraine, jumps and strains a toe…. i cant believe fields has gone from being indispensable so much so that it was between him and gallo the knicks chose him. at the time it seemed like a good idea but god imagine if we had anyone else that could score tonight along side melo. Like if we traded fields instead of gallo. easy to say now but just throwing it out there. now cue everyone being extremely upset with me. dont be. im just venting. Melo played in my mind the best game of his career tonight. that was nothing short of heroic. if your werent sold on him before, wether you hate the trade or not, he was unbelievable tonight and im extremely happy hes in NY where he belongs.

  191. BigBlueAL

    Not to pile on Fields cause I still love the kid but his play in the past couple of months makes the whole Fields is the best player on the Knicks/deserved to be an All-Star according to Dave Berri stuff from earlier this season pretty comical right now.

  192. Doug

    BigBlueAL:
    Not to pile on Fields cause I still love the kid but his play in the past couple of months makes the whole Fields is the best player on the Knicks/deserved to be an All-Star according to Dave Berri stuff from earlier this season pretty comical right now.

    to be fair the team’s entire offensive system changed in the middle of the season.

  193. BigBlueAL

    Of course Barkley’s analysis of the Knicks-Celtics game is you have to give credit to Doc Rivers. Indeed, he did a great job getting his under-manned team to squeak out a victory at home against a vastly superior team.

  194. nicos

    I hope that the home crowd (which should be pretty insane) will really help the Knicks role players who, outside of Jeffries-who the last two plays notwithstanding, has played pretty well so far- and Turiaf, have struggled thus far. You do have to give the C’s some credit for running Fields, Williams, and Walker off the three point line and making them put the ball on the floor- maybe a little extra adrenaline will get those guys to really attack the basket- the Celtics really don’t defend the rim that well anymore.

  195. art vandelay

    What I most worry about, believe it or not (not to get ahead of ourselves), is game 4. Typically the home team after dropping the first 2 on the road (especially the way we have and since we haven’t had a playoff series in 7 years) comes out fired up in game 3 at home and rides the wave to victory. The problem is a potential letdown in game 4. I see the Knicks winning comfortably in the next one and then a another game 4 likes games 1 and 2 and late-game execution once again will either make or break this team (this happened in 98 against indiana when they lost first 2 on the road, won game 3 and were up in game 4 only to let reggie hit a 3 to force OT and they lost that game and then the series in 5).

    Last time I recall Knicks holding serve in games 3 and 4 after losing 1 and 2 on the Road was 2000 Eastern Conference Finals also against pacers, when they lost in 6 but won game 3 and 4 both at home after dropping the first two to Indiana.

  196. Caleb

    The bar is down way, way too low for Jeffries. People are excited because he made 2 shots. The last play looked like it was drawn up for him and that is a firing offense IMO.

    Rant over.

  197. Brian Cronin

    to be fair the team’s entire offensive system changed in the middle of the season.

    Yeah, and it went from one that fit his style perfectly to one that did not fit his style at all.

  198. BigBlueAL

    Caleb:
    The bar is down way, way too low for Jeffries. People are excited because he made 2 shots. The last play looked like it was drawn up for him and that is a firing offense IMO.

    Rant over.

    He was 5 for 7 tonight. Plus Im pretty sure if his man doesnt come to double Melo he aint getting the ball so to say the final play was drawn up for him is kinda stupid.

  199. Brian Cronin

    I am continually amazed by just how awkward Jeffries looks with the ball. Even on the drive where he scored, any other NBA player puts that in easily – but since it was Jeffries, you had to be worried. It is just so odd that he can be that awkward.

  200. Brian Cronin

    From Simmons:

    Bill Walker: 33 mins, 0-for-11 FG … still waiting for someone to explain why the Knicks didn’t need Corey Brewer.

    Seriously? Your complaint is that he shot poorly and you’re bringing up Corey freakin’ Brewer?!?!

  201. JR Sec 112

    Why isnt the board giving more love to ‘Melo? One of the greatest individual playoff performances in Knicks history. Even Bernard had Bill Cartwritght in ’83-’84. 17 boards despite playing PF next to JJ for the entire 2nd half. Phenomenal passing. In Boston, with the worst supporting cast in playoff history. Can we get fired up at least for the next 3 years and seeing what he can do if him and amare start to blend?

  202. BigBlueAL

    Brian Cronin: Yeah, and it went from one that fit his style perfectly to one that did not fit his style at all.

    Agreed but dont be calling him the best player on the team and say he shouldve been an All-Star.

    Why is it that he is the only role player since the trade to suffer this much?? TD and Walker have all played better, Extra E has shot 3′s worse but its not due to the system because he has gotten the same wide open 3pt shots since the trade that he got before the trade. Hell even Mason Jr played well for a decent stretch since the trade.

    I mean for Christ’s sake he is air-balling a couple of 3pter/jumpers a game now.

  203. Brian Cronin

    Bill Walker career TS% .620 and career eFG% .598

    Brewer?

    Career TS% of .479 and career eFG% of .439

  204. BigBlueAL

    JR Sec 112:
    Why isnt the board giving more love to ‘Melo?One of the greatest individual playoff performances in Knicks history. Even Bernard had Bill Cartwritght in ’83-’84.17 boards despite playing PF next to JJ for the entire 2nd half. Phenomenal passing.In Boston, with the worst supporting cast in playoff history.Can we get fired up at least for the next 3 years and seeing what he can do if him and amare start to blend?

    Ive loved and defended Melo at length since the trade so trust me Im on the Melo bandwagon and have been for a while now.

  205. JR Sec 112

    Cause he’s a rookie and he hit the rookie wall. When you are used to a 45 game season, its tough to play games 83 and 84 and do it with twice the intensity you played the first 82

  206. Brian Cronin

    Agreed but dont be calling him the best player on the team and say he shouldve been an All-Star.

    You did see what happened to Amar’e when they changed the system, right? Would Amar’e have made the All-Star team had he played like he did after they changed the system? No way, right? The system change is a major deal.

  207. Brian Cronin

    Actually, I forgot how bad the East was this year. Never mind, Amar’e still would have made it easily. But still, he played a whole lot worse after the system change!

  208. Brian Cronin

    That isn’t to say that it wasn’t silly to call Fields the best player on the Knicks even when he was at his peak, as it was. Just that it was silly then, not because of the changes since.

  209. JR Sec 112

    Amare was actually was starting to fade a bit in January – shooting and rebounding numbers down. I’d argue he spent too much energy during the run in December, logged heavy minutes, and therefore started to wear out. The system change played less of a role.

  210. BigBlueAL

    Yeah thats my point I guess.

    Although Amar’e played great immediately after the trade, what messed Amar’e up was not the new “system” but his body breaking down on him a bit.

  211. rohank

    JR Sec 112:
    Why isnt the board giving more love to ‘Melo?One of the greatest individual playoff performances in Knicks history. Even Bernard had Bill Cartwritght in ’83-’84.17 boards despite playing PF next to JJ for the entire 2nd half. Phenomenal passing.In Boston, with the worst supporting cast in playoff history.Can we get fired up at least for the next 3 years and seeing what he can do if him and amare start to blend?

    That’s definitely the bright side of all of this. We got a look at what Melo is fully capable of tonight. Can you imagine the possibilities?

  212. elikint

    MELOMELOMELO. How can you watch that game — with that cast of characters playing their guts out — and not feel pride for your team. I’m proud of them. Held serve now let’s get some wins in MSG. And pray we get our best — not just talented but poised — players back. Boston will be intimidated; we’ve shown we can hang,

    Anyone crying about Mosgov or Ray tonight? That was an unbelievable performance. The exciting thing is, there will be many, many more from Carmelo Anthony, our superstar. Lets hope we get healthy and get some juice next game!

  213. endyendy

    Very, very proud of the team. If anyone had suggested the Knicks would be taking the Celtics to the limit in a playoff game with that line-up you’d likely have thought them insane. Melo was insane, and I feel bad for him since he made the right play at the end.

    Still, the pride doesn’t dull the pain too much, and I know somehow between now and Friday I’ll end up reading multiple ridiculous columns by Steven A and Ian O’Connor. They’re like car wrecks and I can’t look away.

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