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Thursday, August 21, 2014

2011 Game Thread: Knicks vs. Pacers

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160 comments on “2011 Game Thread: Knicks vs. Pacers

  1. TheRant

    I’m just posting here right now to save the group from some other person routinely posting something incredibly juvenile that rhymes with Limp Bizkit frontman “Fred Durst” or jazz bassist “Robert Hurst.”

  2. Spree8nyk8

    TheRant: I’m just posting here right now to save the group from some other person routinely posting something incredibly juvenile that rhymes with Limp Bizkit frontman “Fred Durst” or jazz bassist “Robert Hurst.”  

    Congratulations on your outstanding display of moral fiber.

    Firsties…

  3. Thomas B.

    Thirsties. I need a beer.

    The Knicks should have the clear advantage tonight since the Pacers have such a hard time scoring. I just hope the defensive effort is there.

  4. KnickFanInCelticLand

    Thomas B.: Thirsties. I need a beer. The Knicks should have the clear advantage tonight since the Pacers have such a hard time scoring. I just hope the defensive effort is there.  (Quote)

    It’s almost St Patties day….make mine a stout.

    I agree. Let’s hope the focus and intensity is present.

  5. latke

    final score: knicks 122, pacers 94

    This one will be over at halftime IMO. This is an ideal matchup for the knicks, and you know they’ll be fired up after getting embarrassed by Dallas.

  6. BigBlueAL

    No Granger for the Pacers. Hopefully the Knicks dont make this game more complicated than it should be.

  7. art vandelay

    Phenomenal pass by Billups…next time we see Jeffries finish around the rim will be the first since he returned…maybe first ever as Knicks pre or post trade.

  8. art vandelay

    Don´t have anything to back this up statistically, but what I have observed is that in games where douglas starts out red hot he usually goes on to shoot the ball well…and the reverse seems to occur…if he doesn{t hit at the start he seems more likely to never really shoot well…let{s see if it holds today.

  9. latke

    we don’t need jeffries tonight. IMO Shawne Williams should see extended time as should Bill Walker (and not roger mason). Really frustrating to watch the lack of ball movement and poor D.

  10. art vandelay

    We allow 60% shooting in first quarter of a home game against an inferior opponent (or any game against anyone in the first quarter for that matter)….absolutely SHOCKING! hah….I sound like a broken record in these forums after every first quarter it seems….

    also, I know we like to take advantage of 2 for 1 possibilities, but I don{t see the sense in hoisting a near half court heave to accomplish it.

  11. latke

    i suppose I sholdn’t criticize defense and suggest less jeffries, but Indiana is taking away our first option offensively. We need guys to knock down threes to open the middle up.

  12. TheXman

    art vandelay: We allow 60% shooting in first quarter of a home game against an inferior opponent (or any game against anyone in the first quarter for that matter)….absolutely SHOCKING!hah….I sound like a broken record in these forums after every first quarter it seems….also, I know we like to take advantage of 2 for 1 possibilities, but I don{t see the sense in hoisting a near half court heave to accomplish it.  

    are they really inferior? sometimes i wonder with this knick team, oh well, losing streaks seem to end with the knicks. They beat some good teams, then lose to some that they have no reason losing to.

  13. art vandelay

    They need to STOP giving the ball to amaré when he is on the run on the wing but has his defender back…it almost ALWAYS results in a turnover…usually offensive foul….guards just need to refuse to pass to him I don{t care how badly he wants the ball…he is not nimble enough or good enough a ball handler to avoid contact.

  14. art vandelay

    I think TD´s defense is a bit overrated, frankly….always have….he commits a lot of silly fouls, gambles, cannot get over screens…man to man he is pretty good, but if there is any ball movement from the other team, he has no idea how to navigate screens and his man constantly breaks free for open jump shots…whatever he gets in steals and disrupting plays he often gives back.

  15. Spree8nyk8

    MDA breaks people too long especially when they are hot. No way Melo should have sat that long.

  16. Kikuchiyo

    I was just about to ask if Clyde still uses the phrase “Matador D.” But there it is. Welcome back, apt phrase.

  17. art vandelay

    Proably the worst thing that could have happened to us was Granger not playing….knicks really know how to play down to their competition (see cavaliers, cleveland)

  18. Spree8nyk8

    TheXman:
    put in who? TD? Mason?I’d rather have Landry  

    I’m good with either of those right now, anyone who is going to produce. before the two ft’s had pretty much been laying a goosegg of a statline. And he’s constantly losing his man. Constantly, he needs a seat

  19. TheXman

    art vandelay: Proably the worst thing that could have happened to us was Granger not playing….knicks really know how to play down to their competition (see cavaliers, cleveland)  

    lol u might have a point here, tho they didn’t get “up” for the mavs

  20. Thomas B.

    This is why is stopped with the game previews (well that and always having to read Green Eggs and Ham to the boys), every time I write about the Knicks defense vs a team with a bad offense, they play like this.

    It is frustrating. The Sixers lose big to the Bucks and the Knicks can create some space in the standings, then they play like this. Awful.

  21. TheXman

    granted they prob should be down more, the pacers are shotting effing 60%, u would think that they would return back to normalcy.

  22. latke

    i’m telling ya’ll jeffries is killing us. Our offense is struggling, which is allowing the pacers to run, and that’s why they’re shooting so efficiently. This is one of those games where good offense would make for good defense.

  23. Doug

    Thomas B.: I thought his name was pronounced ENEE-YO not “Knee-yo.”  

    Breen pronounces his name like it’s in a foreign language: “Tonight’s Boost Mobile celebrity guest is.. “NEE. YO.”

    It’s too bad, because Ne-Yo’s last album was called “Year of the Gentleman” and I think he’s a dude that Clyde would like.

  24. art vandelay

    this would be just a TERRIBLE loss in my opinion coming off the mavs debacle….if they lose this one, I don{t care how, I think we should label it worst loss of year (and there have been many already: sacramento, 3 to cleveland, etc.)

  25. BigBlueAL

    This wont come close to worst loss of the year. Fact is to be honest the rest of the regular season is basically kinda meaningless. Knicks are a lock to finish no worse than 7th and no better than 5th.

    Obviously we want to see them play well but in reality the next real big game for the Knicks is Game 1 of the playoffs.

  26. Doug

    art vandelay: this would be just a TERRIBLE loss in my opinion coming off the mavs debacle….if they lose this one, I don{t care how, I think we should label it worst loss of year (and there have been many already: sacramento, 3 to cleveland, etc.)  

    Worse than any loss to Cleveland? No way.

  27. d-mar

    Maybe the PA guy should stop playing the “Dee-fense” music, it means an automatic basket for the Pacers.

  28. d-mar

    We should start a Knicks opponent Hall of Fame for stiffs who have career games against us. Tonight’s inductee: Dahntay Jones.

  29. art vandelay

    D´antoni saving melo and Stat for tuesday….I don´t get it…does he really think we are coming back without at least one of them in, if not both..

  30. TheXman

    good thing for the pacers to get out of their slump, they play the knicks again on Tues to get a winning streak going

  31. TheXman

    Doug: TD is a complete waste tonight.  

    chauncey and billups complete waste, if your PG is a complete waste, tough to win

  32. Doug

    TheXman:
    chauncey and billups complete waste, if your PG is a complete waste, tough to win  

    Pretty much. Chauncey has given us absolutely nothing tonight and Toney has been cold as ice.

  33. d-mar

    Well, we’re in striking distance, but the unstoppable HOF’er Hansbrough was on the bench during that run.

  34. TheXman

    can we just have no point guard, maybe just have carmelo play the point or bill walker bring it up, i can’t take this any more

  35. TheXman

    first possession chauncy gets, he does nothing with the pick and roll, then fades away for an airball, great possession

  36. Doug

    BigBlueAL: This might be the worst played game in the history of the Knicks by their PG’s.  

    Collison and Price are trying their best to outdo them.

  37. art vandelay

    Wow….billups with his second air ball of the game….they´re competing for worst PG of the game award…..right now neck-and-neck.

  38. Doug

    art vandelay: Wow….billups with his second air ball of the game….they´re competing for worst PG of the game award…..right now neck-and-neck.  

    It’s a four-horse race with Price and Collison treating the ball like a hot potato.

  39. Garson

    With this 49% increase im paying for my seats next year, can we at least get kiefer sutherland to narrate these knick promo commercials?? The dude who does it now its terrible

  40. hoolahoop

    Misery loves company so I had to come here.
    The knicks made the Mavs look so good I didn’t think they’d lose another game this season. Before that, they made Memphis look like a real contender. And now this.

  41. TheXman

    seriously chauncey, turns it over there, then gets a charge, i mean TAKE THEM BOTH OUT, THEY ARE like -20 for the game

  42. Doug

    hoolahoop: Misery loves company so I had to come here.
    The knicks made the Mavs look so good I didn’t think they’d lose another game this season. Before that, they made Memphis look like a real contender. And now this.  

    Memphis is kind of a legit playoff team, hope that helps.

  43. TheXman

    lol can someone score, wh ydid we take out bill walker? he’s the only one who can make a goddamn shot

  44. art vandelay

    yes, taking out walker was absurd…I was hoping they would go to him….

    I can already see the amar´e postgame: “We just didn´t come out with enough energy, just not enough swag.”

  45. hoolahoop

    Melo with the off balance circus shot that doesn’t come within a foot of the rim. Smart basketball.

  46. latke

    for the knicks, it’s sort of like a game of horse: Amare is like: “Okay, I’ll make a crazy fadeaway after a defender has gotten a hand on the ball.”

    and for the pacers its like their warming up:

    each guy goes to his spot, the point guard passes it to him for the wide open shot.

    This is the problem when players decide they can/must win on their own. I’d rather lose by 100-0 with guys missing open 3s than lose by 15 with guys hogging the ball and taking shots that are way up there on the degree of difficulty level.

  47. hoolahoop

    Melo needs to get his points so it looks like he had a good game for those that weren’t watching.

  48. TheXman

    hoolahoop: Melo needs to get his points so it looks like he had a good game for those that weren’t watching.  

    reading that SI article by George Karl he couldn’t deal with his his diva ways. basically we’re fucked for the next 5 years

  49. art vandelay

    oh, I forgot to induct Elton Brand earlier in the opponents´ unstoppable HOF…my bad!

  50. BigBlueAL

    Why am I not surprised that with a game like tonight the game thread is filled with mostly posts from a couple of people who were nowhere to be seen during the 3 game winning streak and any game the Knicks are winning for that matter….

  51. Doug

    TheXman:
    reading that SI article by George Karl he couldn’t deal with his his diva ways.basically we’re fucked for the next 5 years  

    Because George Karl has no reason to badmouth Carmelo because he was like a son to him. The truth is somewhere in between.

  52. Bruno Almeida

    BigBlueAL: Why am I not surprised that with a game like tonight the game thread is filled with mostly posts from a couple of people who were nowhere to be seen during the 3 game winning streak and any game the Knicks are winning for that matter….  

    yeah, if this team beat the Pacers tomorrow it will be a “stroke of luck”, and the “true” team is the one that lost these 2 games, not the one who won 3 before.

    pathetic.

  53. art vandelay

    I have actually been somewhat negative tonight so I apologize for that…generally I try to be positive and was actually on the pro-melo side of the trade argument, for the record….just very frustrating the number of very bad losses this team has thrown up at home without real justification….this game had rout in our favor all over it going in…and instead it became a rout in the other direction…I guess in the grand scheme of things it doesn´t mean much….except that we may wind up with the 7th seed rather than 6th if we can handle mediocre to bad teams at home down the stretch.

  54. Thomas B.

    I just realized that there is no game on the schedule that I can circle and say “That’s a win.” This team can beat the best and lose to the worst any given night. How can you go into the playoffs with any degree of confidence playing this way?

    Call me trollish if you want, but I just do not have faith in this team. I wish them well but I have no faith that they can win.

  55. art vandelay

    knicks have obviously shown they can beat just about any team in this league and lose to anyone on any given night….fortunately, we SHOULD not expect any kind of let down in the playoffs, so that bodes well….

  56. CapB

    Thats the kind offense you are going to see when your two PGs absolutely sucked and are running the offense. Chauncey looked like a rookie out there tonight.

  57. hoolahoop

    I was waiting for the knicks apologists to show up.
    Yeah, you’re right. just had a bad night. the knicks are an awesome team.

  58. CapB

    Yup, thats clearly what they were saying. You have your finger on the pulse of everything dont you

  59. BigBlueAL

    Thomas B.: I just realized that there is no game on the schedule that I can circle and say “That’s a win.”This team can beat the best and lose to the worst any given night.How can you go into the playoffs with any degree of confidence playing this way?Call me trollish if you want, but I just do not have faith in this team.I wish them well but I have no faith that they can win.  

    Isnt that the mark of a 5-7 seed though which is exactly what the Knicks are this season??

    This has nothing to do with the trade either by the way since before the trade this team was the exact same way.

  60. Jim Cavan

    hoolahoop: I was waiting for the knicks apologists to show up.
    Yeah, you’re right. just had a bad night. the knicks are an awesome team.  

    And we were waiting for you to show up when we beat the Heat.

    That was ugly. But we have to keep in mind two things. 1) the team is basically getting reacclimated to Chauncey again, and 2) Indiana is fighting for their playoff lives at this point. We need to tap into that sense of urgency as well.

  61. hoolahoop

    There’s no excuse for a performance like this. Again.
    TD is out of control. Melo thinks everyone is there to watch him shoot. That’s basketball cancer.
    Do you think it’s coincidence that Denver is playing better? . . . or is it luck?
    Yeah, attack me for bashing the knicks. It’s my fault they play like shit.

  62. hoolahoop

    Jim Cavan:
    And we were waiting for you to show up when we beat the Heat.
    That was ugly. But we have to keep in mind two things. 1) the team is basically getting reacclimated to Chauncey again, and 2) Indiana is fighting for their playoff lives at this point. We need to tap into that sense of urgency as well.  

    I enjoyed the Heat win more than any game in the last ten years – and said so at the time. I also was afraid it was a fluke.

  63. KnickInSeattle

    Horrible game.

    I don’t consider myself enough of an expert (unlike most here) to diagnose exactly what went wrong.

    To me, it seemed like everyone played poorly, no one helped on defense and TD (one of my favorite Knicks) reacted badly to coming off the bench after a stretch of good starts.

  64. GHenman

    KnickInSeattle: Horrible game.I don’t consider myself enough of an expert (unlike most here) to diagnose exactly what went wrong.To me, it seemed like everyone played poorly, no one helped on defense and TD (one of my favorite Knicks) reacted badly to coming off the bench after a stretch of good starts.  (Quote)

    Good point about TD. Maybe he is better as a starter.

  65. art vandelay

    TD started shooting poorly and continued hoisting…I am going to start tracking this, but I really think when he starts off well it portends a good game for him and vice versa..may be a mental thing, confidence, etc.

  66. JK47

    Things around here are getting really juvenile. The level of snark and rudeness is really unfortunate.

  67. daJudge

    Maybe some posters didn’t show up because they had other things to attend to, like dinner, grandchildren and children, you know, life. Which reminds me, some of the posters sound a lot like my grandchildren. Yeah, the game absolutely sucked and it’s hard to stay positive after this game. BTW, Thomas B you are absolutely not trollish. I hope the Knicks also understand that there are no games that are circled either. Trolls are people that get pleasure when the Knicks lose because it tends to prove them right. Come on guys, get a grip.

  68. latke

    knicks record before trade against teams below .500: 17-6
    after trade: 1-3

    knicks record before trade against teams at or above .500: 11-20
    after trade: 5-2

    This to me suggests that Thomas B.’s spot on to feel nervous about our prospects going forward. While before you could feel pretty confident about the knicks beating the teams they should beat, now you have good reason to feel unsure. It also reeks to me of a team that thinks too highly of itself. Yes, it’s nice to know that the knicks seem to know how to play well when they care to, but you never really learn how to play well and as a unit unless you’re out their representing that consistency of effort and focus.

    I mean, I’m sure many of you have experience playing in games with teammates who only seem to care when their pride has been hurt or their reputation is at stake. It’s really frustrating, and it throws the entire chemistry of the team off.

  69. art vandelay

    If anything I am encouraged by those numbers of our record against above and below .500 teams….we clearly will not be playing any teams below .500 in the playoffs and we have performed well since the trade against above-average clubs…how we perform in the playoffs (assuming we make it which I think is a pretty safe assumption at this point notwithstanding tonight´s game) is really all that matters.

  70. daJudge

    I agree with Latke. I have had that experience on the court and that’s when you lose to a group with less skill that hustles. Also, it is a small sample, but the Knicks seem to be underachieving against crappy teams. The underachievement also appears to include lack of effort, focus and preparation by the coaching staff.

  71. d-mar

    This loss absolutely blows, and I’m always sympathetic to the poor fans who paid good money to see that abomination of a basktball game.

    So not much good to say, except that beating or playing well against good teams and playing badly against bad teams is a better sign for the playoffs than cleaning up against the dregs and wilting against top teams.

  72. Doug

    hoolahoop: There’s no excuse for a performance like this. Again.
    TD is out of control. Melo thinks everyone is there to watch him shoot. That’s basketball cancer.
    Do you think it’s coincidence that Denver is playing better? . . . or is it luck?
    Yeah, attack me for bashing the knicks. It’s my fault they play like shit.  

    I swear you are being basketball commenting cancer.

  73. Robert Silverman

    Guys, guys. No need to fight. Certs are a breath mint AND a candy!

    Problem solved…

  74. flossy

    Why is anyone even talking about Carmelo Anthony? Our backcourt went, what, a combined 9-36? We spent significant stretches with both Turiaf and Jeffries on the floor at the same time. Carmelo may not have played well, but he’s not the only, not the biggest, reason we lost this game.

  75. Robert Silverman

    daJudge: Good one Robert.You’re a funny dude.Thanks.  

    Just here to help. Couldn’t watch the game – glad I missed this one.

  76. jon abbey

    latke: knicks record before trade against teams below .500: 17-6
    after trade: 1-3knicks record before trade against teams at or above .500: 11-20
    after trade: 5-2This to me suggests that Thomas B.’s spot on to feel nervous about our prospects going forward.  

    if “going forward” means this season, to me that means the exact opposite. we’re going to make the playoffs and when we do, we’re going to play a team above .500.

  77. latke

    flossy: We spent significant stretches with both Turiaf and Jeffries on the floor at the same time.

    yes, this was very frustrating, but it only happened because our scorers were completely unable to slow down Indiana’s offense. Still, I think the offense was more troublesome than the defense and wish MDA would have played walker (+7 on the game) and williams earlier and more often. As far as Anthony goes, he scored 25 points while using 29 possessions, had 0 assists, and was -19 on the game (worst of the knicks). He seemed more interested in beating Dante Jones in a game of 1 on 1, than in winning the game.

    No, he isn’t the only one to blame, but since he used more possessions than anyone else and makes the big bucks, he should be able to have a more positive effect on the team. Of course, it’s one game. It’s only one game, and hopefully he’ll get his head straight before the next one.

    Billups was probably worse than Anthony, but Douglas IMO (and I’m sure someone will disagree) did not take many bad shots. He just missed them, and that’s fine to me. Like I wrote before, I’d rather lose taking and missing good shots than win taking and making bad ones, because those habits always lead to more wins in the long run.

  78. The Honorable Cock Jowles

    Come on, guys. Do you really think that this is a team that will actually maintain that kind of “character?” Beating good teams and losing to bad ones? Things even out eventually.

  79. Thomas B.

    BigBlueAL:
    Isnt that the mark of a 5-7 seed though which is exactly what the Knicks are this season??This has nothing to do with the trade either by the way since before the trade this team was the exact same way.  

    I agree. Hence there was no real reason to make the trade.

  80. Brian Cronin

    I agree. Hence there was no real reason to make the trade.

    Only if Melo doesn’t bring them Paul or D-Will in a year. I think they traded for him because they believe he will – and if you move laterally in year 1 then get Paul/D-Will in year 2, you’re doing great. But otherwise, yeah, I agree (which is why I didn’t want them to do the trade, but I have to admit that if Melo brings in a third star like Paul or D-Will, he’s more than worth it).

  81. Thomas B.

    @147 Me being a person of little faith, I have a hard time thinking it could happen. But if it does–because I love Chris Paul–I would eat my words about the trade. I hope it happens. I have loved this team since 12 years old during Mark Jackson’s rookie year. All I’ve ever wanted for the past 24 years was a team that I could be really proud of and excited about. A team worthy of my loyalty. I have felt that in only 2 seasons 1994 and 1999. Not to say that there werent good teams in other years, but there was something special about those teams–especially 1999. I want that special back and I just don’t feel that this team has it.
    Sigh.
    I hope you are right about bringing in top talent. I hope that makes this a special team again.

  82. BigBlueAL

    I know Ive been whining alot about the people complaining about the trade but I cant disagree with that pont of view. I was in the camp of I really didnt care if the trade happened or not, I saw positives and negatives either way.

    I just have a hard time with people assuming this team is now 100% doomed for the future and act like if they didnt make the trade in the next season or 2 they were guaranteed to become a 60 win powerhouse. Im just being a fan and want to enjoy the team now and enjoy the playoffs because I believe, foolishly so maybe, that whoever they play aside from Boston they will be one helluva tough out. Billups needs to get to 100% though by the playoffs for that to be the case.

    I think its just way too hard to assume the future now because of the CBA situation. Once that situation is taken care of we can all start really dissecting what moves this team can or cant do in the future. For now despite these stupid losses the trade has made this current team better and much more dangerous come playoff time and thats all I care about right now. I will worry about the future in the future lol.

  83. Owen

    “but I have to admit that if Melo bring in a third star like Paul or D-Will, he’s more than worth it).”

    I guess. What those guys see in Melo I don’t quite understand and I wonder if they will still see it after 1.5 years of mediocrity. If I were Williams I would go to Dallas.

  84. TheXman

    They should’ve really went after Deron, instead nets got the better player. Good job Dolan.

  85. BigBlueAL

    “What those guys see in Melo I don’t quite understand and I wonder if they will still see it after 1.5 years of mediocrity. If I were Williams I would go to Dallas.”

    Knicks are doooooooooomed.

  86. Brian Cronin

    I guess. What those guys see in Melo I don’t quite understand and I wonder if they will still see it after 1.5 years of mediocrity. If I were Williams I would go to Dallas.

    We don’t really have to understand it, though, to know that other players definitely do see Melo as a guy they want to play with. If he can do that for the Knicks (to get either Paul or D-Will), then he’s totally worth the $20 million. And I think he likely will get them one of them.

  87. Brian Cronin

    They should’ve really went after Deron, instead nets got the better player. Good job Dolan.

    The Nets only get Deron for a year. The Knicks get Carmelo for at least three and a half. So they’re not really comparable deals. When you add in the unlikelihood that New Jersey would have dealt Deron for the same package that the Knicks gave up to get Melo, then I really don’t see the Deron deal as a knock on the Knicks.

  88. latke

    Let me emphasize that I don’t think it’s panic time. I’ll give this team till the end of the playoffs to show some signs of progress. Criteria: win 2+ games in playoffs.

    Next season I expect a 1st round playoff victory and for them to put up a fight in the second round.

    If either of those things don’t happen, my impression will begin to harden and I’ll begin calling for trades, but we’ll get there if we get there.

    As far as chris paul/deron williams go, I imagine their criteria for demanding a trade to NYC would be quite similar to my own criteria for keeping hope. If the knicks are duds in the playoffs these next two seasons, I highly doubt Paul/Williams will be knocking on our doors. There are plenty of other teams out there, and some of them look to have the financials to pay one of these guys outright.

  89. hoolahoop

    This forum frustrates me almost as much as the knicks.
    I’ve been a big knick fan for a long, long time; I love(d) this team. I’ve also played competitive ball my entire life at various levels.
    I don’t understand how people on this forum come up with all sorts of crazy reasons to justify bad performances by this team. To me, that’s not the smart fan that the Knicks are known to have. The knicks played so poorly tonight that the crowd was booing the team. Would you stand up and start yelling to everyone that the games don’t matter until the playoffs, or where were you fans last night when we won? Smart sports fans recognize and discuss their teams flaws, instead of lashing out at people who do that, and don’t make excuses for their horrible effort.
    I saw the same thing happen here during the Isiah era and left this forum for years. I guess this is the way it is here. No hard feelings. Good luck to you all.

  90. massive

    Man, did the Knicks suck tonight. I think this game was just a weird one. Billups, Douglas, Melo, and Fields all had bad games. Amar’e had a pretty good game, but was in foul trouble most of the night. A lot went right for the Pacers, which was the only way they would win without Granger. Overall, the Knicks just did not come out to play, which is unacceptable. I doubt this happens again on Tuesday.

  91. jon abbey

    hoolahoop, they were awful, unprepared, lazy, and consistently outworked by an inferior team. that doesn’t necessarily mean that it matters at all in the big picture, though.

    latke, I agree completely. pre-trade, I said this season would be a success if NY won a single game in the postseason. post-trade, I agree that the bar has been slightly raised to two games (small steps).

  92. Doug

    I place 100% of the blame the uttering of Fred Durst’s name in the first post of the thread. “Dursties” = instant blowout loss.

  93. daJudge

    Louisville v. Moorehead State 1st round SW bracket. We can watch Faried against a tough Louisville squad. Should be interesting. We will hopefully see Jimmer in the second round against St. John’s. That will be another interesting match up given the Johnies defense.

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