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		<title>By: Z</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/2011-game-thread-knicks-vs-mavericks/#comment-313488</link>
		<dc:creator>Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Feb 2011 00:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Caleb</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/2011-game-thread-knicks-vs-mavericks/#comment-313481</link>
		<dc:creator>Caleb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 21:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In that scenario we&#039;re giving the Lakers two good young players - one who would step right into the starting lineup and the other who IMO has a very good chance of being as valuable as Bynum before long. So I don&#039;t think it needs a sweetener. You don&#039;t need it, for salary match. 

Whether the Lakers do it depends on how much they like Chandler and Randolph but as I see it it&#039;s not a one-sided deal. Maybe a slight step backward this year (if Bynum is really healthy) but possibly an upgrade for the future.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In that scenario we&#8217;re giving the Lakers two good young players &#8211; one who would step right into the starting lineup and the other who IMO has a very good chance of being as valuable as Bynum before long. So I don&#8217;t think it needs a sweetener. You don&#8217;t need it, for salary match. </p>
<p>Whether the Lakers do it depends on how much they like Chandler and Randolph but as I see it it&#8217;s not a one-sided deal. Maybe a slight step backward this year (if Bynum is really healthy) but possibly an upgrade for the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 20:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve Blake&#039;s contract is a tough (poison?) pill, but at 4 million per until 2013 that isnt awful. It&#039;s less that a 10th of your cap and essentially the same as the Ridinour deal I offered a few threads ago.

I figured to get Bynum we had to take back something else since that team option 16 million on Bynum is a valueable trade assest for a team just willing to clear space.  If we take Blake out, what would you add in place? Walton? More cash but fewer years. Fisher is the cheapest, but at 36 with 2 more years, I say ugh.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve Blake&#8217;s contract is a tough (poison?) pill, but at 4 million per until 2013 that isnt awful. It&#8217;s less that a 10th of your cap and essentially the same as the Ridinour deal I offered a few threads ago.</p>
<p>I figured to get Bynum we had to take back something else since that team option 16 million on Bynum is a valueable trade assest for a team just willing to clear space.  If we take Blake out, what would you add in place? Walton? More cash but fewer years. Fisher is the cheapest, but at 36 with 2 more years, I say ugh.</p>
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		<title>By: Caleb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caleb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 19:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@198 Didn&#039;t know that was a team option - not committing the money for 2012-2013 makes that deal look a lot better. A clean slate for 2012, so we&#039;re only talking about next season, really. Definitely the safer course than hoping MDA plays Randolph and hoping we find a good center somewhere or a good S&amp;T with Chandler this summer. 

Not an easy cal... depends on the medical report.. and I&#039;d still turn it down if Steve Blake were anywhere near it, though. That&#039;s $6 million a year we would deeply, deeply regret.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@198 Didn&#8217;t know that was a team option &#8211; not committing the money for 2012-2013 makes that deal look a lot better. A clean slate for 2012, so we&#8217;re only talking about next season, really. Definitely the safer course than hoping MDA plays Randolph and hoping we find a good center somewhere or a good S&#038;T with Chandler this summer. </p>
<p>Not an easy cal&#8230; depends on the medical report.. and I&#8217;d still turn it down if Steve Blake were anywhere near it, though. That&#8217;s $6 million a year we would deeply, deeply regret.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 18:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Caleb,

I acknowledge that this is risky in terms of health.  I did ask for a Laker pick to somewhat offset that.  I kinda think this team is in a good position to take a risk.  Best case scenario the Knicks get a healthy Bynum, he is plays at a high level, scores efficiently inside, gets rebounds, and shores the defense inside.  Blake provides steady enough play to keep Felton from playing 40 per game.  This best case scenario is far better (IMHO) than the best case trade for Carmelo scenario.  That Bynum team is a legit ECF contender. I dont know if they can beat Miami or Boston but they should be good enough to have a solid chance.
Worst case scenario: Bynum needs to get a scope or he tweaks the knee and he can&#039;t go much.  Well that slides Stat back to the 5 and the team makes due with Gallo or (heaven forbid) Extra E at the 4. Mozgov may have to play more, but if we still have Turiaf they could try to spilt 20-25 minutes at center each night.  That isnt too much worse than the current lineup. Sure we&#039;d miss Chandler&#039;s contributions, but Gallo has really stepped up with Chandler out (except in the rebounding dept.).  This team wont lose the 6th spot but isnt as good as the current team.  The real problem comes from the hit the projected 2011 cap takes. Knicks wont be in position to offer anything to Melo other than MLE (if it is still around). 

Team option for Bynum after July 2012. So you could still go after CP3 or Howard if there isnt a franchise tag in the new CBA (that would stink). 

I don&#039;t know how Donnie resists the urge to says &quot;Let&#039;s do it&quot; if that trade is out there for the Knicks. I get goosebumps just thinking about it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Caleb,</p>
<p>I acknowledge that this is risky in terms of health.  I did ask for a Laker pick to somewhat offset that.  I kinda think this team is in a good position to take a risk.  Best case scenario the Knicks get a healthy Bynum, he is plays at a high level, scores efficiently inside, gets rebounds, and shores the defense inside.  Blake provides steady enough play to keep Felton from playing 40 per game.  This best case scenario is far better (IMHO) than the best case trade for Carmelo scenario.  That Bynum team is a legit ECF contender. I dont know if they can beat Miami or Boston but they should be good enough to have a solid chance.<br />
Worst case scenario: Bynum needs to get a scope or he tweaks the knee and he can&#8217;t go much.  Well that slides Stat back to the 5 and the team makes due with Gallo or (heaven forbid) Extra E at the 4. Mozgov may have to play more, but if we still have Turiaf they could try to spilt 20-25 minutes at center each night.  That isnt too much worse than the current lineup. Sure we&#8217;d miss Chandler&#8217;s contributions, but Gallo has really stepped up with Chandler out (except in the rebounding dept.).  This team wont lose the 6th spot but isnt as good as the current team.  The real problem comes from the hit the projected 2011 cap takes. Knicks wont be in position to offer anything to Melo other than MLE (if it is still around). </p>
<p>Team option for Bynum after July 2012. So you could still go after CP3 or Howard if there isnt a franchise tag in the new CBA (that would stink). </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how Donnie resists the urge to says &#8220;Let&#8217;s do it&#8221; if that trade is out there for the Knicks. I get goosebumps just thinking about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Caleb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caleb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 16:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think we&#039;d be giving up too much considering Bynum&#039;s health.. I don&#039;t think he&#039;s cracked 50 games since his second seasojn in the league. Unless the Lakers added a draft pick or two I don&#039;t think it&#039;s worth it. (And Steve Blake can stay in LA, thanks)

Assuming we don&#039;t get stuck with Blake money it&#039;s not a terrible idea, though... Bynum is really good, when healthy. But at this point I think he&#039;s actually a bigger question mark than Randolph, over the next 2-3 years. 

LA would have to be tempted.. they need a serious upgrade of youth and defense.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we&#8217;d be giving up too much considering Bynum&#8217;s health.. I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s cracked 50 games since his second seasojn in the league. Unless the Lakers added a draft pick or two I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s worth it. (And Steve Blake can stay in LA, thanks)</p>
<p>Assuming we don&#8217;t get stuck with Blake money it&#8217;s not a terrible idea, though&#8230; Bynum is really good, when healthy. But at this point I think he&#8217;s actually a bigger question mark than Randolph, over the next 2-3 years. </p>
<p>LA would have to be tempted.. they need a serious upgrade of youth and defense.</p>
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		<title>By: KnicksFanInVA</title>
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		<dc:creator>KnicksFanInVA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 16:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Long time reader, but first time poster. 

Any chance we can get Bargnani from the Raptors? It&#039;s not like they are going anywhere, and they might be better off going in to full rebuild mode. 

Would they take WC, Curry, AR for Bargs and Calderon? I know Calderon&#039;s contract is ugly, but we would probably have to take it get Bargnani.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Long time reader, but first time poster. </p>
<p>Any chance we can get Bargnani from the Raptors? It&#8217;s not like they are going anywhere, and they might be better off going in to full rebuild mode. </p>
<p>Would they take WC, Curry, AR for Bargs and Calderon? I know Calderon&#8217;s contract is ugly, but we would probably have to take it get Bargnani.</p>
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		<title>By: rama</title>
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		<dc:creator>rama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 15:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By the way, Thomas, &quot;Hollinger&#039;s analysis&quot; was that we don&#039;t add wins, but the Lakers lose 4 wins.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, Thomas, &#8220;Hollinger&#8217;s analysis&#8221; was that we don&#8217;t add wins, but the Lakers lose 4 wins.</p>
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		<title>By: rama</title>
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		<dc:creator>rama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 15:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thomas - ran your trade and it worked.  Actually, ran it slightly differently: 

Chandler
Turiaf
Randolph
Curry 

for

Blake 
Bynum

If we got anything else from the Lakers it&#039;d be gravy, but sure, imagine if you will another cheap serviceable player and/or a pick.  

I think Turiaf would make a difference to them; they had him before and by all accounts love him.  And Wil is a nice piece, and they can be the team to put their hopes on the upside of Sour Ant.  

I still don&#039;t think they do it, but that&#039;s a little closer, maybe, to being possible?  Please, LA?  Come on, you get the dominating force that is Eddy Currry, too!  That&#039;s got to be worth something!  No, you say?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas &#8211; ran your trade and it worked.  Actually, ran it slightly differently: </p>
<p>Chandler<br />
Turiaf<br />
Randolph<br />
Curry </p>
<p>for</p>
<p>Blake<br />
Bynum</p>
<p>If we got anything else from the Lakers it&#8217;d be gravy, but sure, imagine if you will another cheap serviceable player and/or a pick.  </p>
<p>I think Turiaf would make a difference to them; they had him before and by all accounts love him.  And Wil is a nice piece, and they can be the team to put their hopes on the upside of Sour Ant.  </p>
<p>I still don&#8217;t think they do it, but that&#8217;s a little closer, maybe, to being possible?  Please, LA?  Come on, you get the dominating force that is Eddy Currry, too!  That&#8217;s got to be worth something!  No, you say?</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 15:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-313460&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Z&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: &lt;p&gt;Wouldn’t the Lakers rather trade Bynum for Carmelo?&#160;&#160;&lt;a class=comment_quote_link title=&quot;Click here or select text to quote comment&quot; onmousedown=&quot;quote(&#039;313460&#039;, document.getElementById(&#039;name313460&#039;).innerHTML, &#039;comment&#039;,&#039;div-comment-313460&#039;, false);try { addComment.moveForm(&#039;div-comment-313460&#039;, &#039;313460&#039;, &#039;respond&#039;, &#039;5479&#039;); } catch(e) {}; return false;&quot; href=&quot;javascript:void(null)&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(Quote)&lt;/p&gt;
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Maybe but I think they need more young legs, not just a single scorer. Also, I&#039;m not so sure Denver wants Bynum. Denver is in good shape inside are they not. A three team deal maybe?]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-313460" rel="nofollow">Z</a></strong>:
<p>Wouldn’t the Lakers rather trade Bynum for Carmelo?&nbsp;&nbsp;<a class=comment_quote_link title="Click here or select text to quote comment" onmousedown="quote('313460', document.getElementById('name313460').innerHTML, 'comment','div-comment-313460', false);try { addComment.moveForm('div-comment-313460', '313460', 'respond', '5479'); } catch(e) {}; return false;" href="javascript:void(null)" rel="nofollow"></a></p>
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<p>Maybe but I think they need more young legs, not just a single scorer. Also, I&#8217;m not so sure Denver wants Bynum. Denver is in good shape inside are they not. A three team deal maybe?</p>
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