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Saturday, November 1, 2014

190 comments on “2011 Game Thread: Knicks vs. Hornets

  1. latke

    rohank: Oh and I’m predicting a 40 point night for one of our superstars.  

    I’m calling 20-10 game from Fields.

  2. JK47

    The Hornets have been playing pretty badly lately. Since their ten-game winning streak in January they’ve gone 4-11. This should be a winnable game for NYK even without Billups, but we’re gonna need TD to DWTDD.

  3. mhpjay

    Fields has been in a funk since the all star break.
    I second 15 to 20-10 night from fields.
    I want 30 from STAT tonight.
    and a W
    Its all about the defense ppl. We could put up 90 with our eyes closed. Give me that defensive energy. Jared Jeffries might be a good fit for the Knicks. Especially when Stat n Melo are on the floor, he fills a lot of space with those long arms and improves the defense just because he can guard so many positions. Plus, it doesn’t hurt the defense as much when they switch on the pick and roll. The question is how much does he have in those legs left?

  4. mhpjay

    TD really is the key to the game. His game is starting to look like Starks. So how is the weather today? I really hate it when we run ISO, but it looks like we are going to have to run it a lot tonight.

  5. BigBlueAL

    John Schumann from NBA.com with an interesting stat on the new Knicks Big 3 via Twitter:

    w/ Billups on the floor, Melo & Amar’e are a +23 in 106 min. together. w/ Billups on the bench, Melo & Amar’e are a -29 in 15 min.

  6. Robert Silverman

    BigBlueAL: John Schumann from NBA.com with an interesting stat on the new Knicks Big 3 via Twitter:w/ Billups on the floor, Melo & Amar’e are a +23 in 106 min. together. w/ Billups on the bench, Melo & Amar’e are a -29 in 15 min.  

    I’m no stat-head, but methinks that’s not good.

    I have a weirdly good vibe about this one. Might we even see Andy Rautins dusted off?

  7. Jim Cavan

    Prediction: Chris Paul’s knee brace gets as many blocks as Anthony Carter does points.

    And…. Knicks win 101-95.

  8. tenebrous

    not sure hornets want revenge Knicks would have to call lady luck hope I’m biggly wrong

  9. Richmond County

    We are going to have some interesting looking backcourts tonight. Maybe “The Landry and Andy Show” becomes a reality tonight.

  10. BigBlueAL

    TD and Turiaf starting, Extra E back to the bench. Looks like Jeffries will play tonight too.

  11. tenebrous

    If brewer wanted to play fir k he would have clanched md’s hand and demanded a shot

  12. tenebrous

    BigBlueAL: TD and Turiaf starting, Extra E back to the bench.Looks like Jeffries will play tonight too.  

    who is extra e? sounds like a sick player

  13. totti

    yesterday i saw tor-hor.
    Paul was not paul.
    toronto won pretty easily thanks to a big big calderon

    if douglas and fields don’t convince
    i predict a loss

  14. Richmond County

    tenebrous: two rookies running point trying to make the playoffs hmmmm ?  

    Anthony Carter is the opposite of a rookie. Literally the exact opposite of a rookie.

  15. Brian Cronin

    It’d be kind of hilarious if Mason gets some burn tonight. He must be the greatest locker room guy ever.

  16. Jim Cavan

    I’m actually feeling good about tonight. We’ll obviously miss Chauncey’s scoring, but Carter and TD are both more-than-capable defenders who are going to make CP3 work all night. It might very well turn into a half-court slog, but this is a team we should be able to take advantage of on isos.

  17. Fitzy

    Carmelo sucks. He is just a gunner. The Knicks are spent three years clearing cap space and then blew it on an overrated scorer. Unreal. Go read the stat’s on carmelo over at wages of wins blog. Carmelo is shooting 40% from the field so far for the Knicks, with about a 20% rate from 3 point line. He had 25 points last night , Yea he’s great. But wait ,look, he took 24 shots. 8 for 24. You cant be serious. One of the most inefficient scorers around. Dolan and Isaih strike again. Good luck knicks. Thank god we got Chauncey, but now he’s injured.

  18. tenebrous

    melons waiting for u at west 4th court bring a ball

    Fitzy: Carmelo sucks. He is just a gunner. The Knicks are spent three years clearing cap space and then blew it on an overrated scorer.Unreal. Go read the stat’s on carmelo over at wages of wins blog.Carmelo is shooting 40% from the field so far for the Knicks, with about a 20% rate from 3 point line.He had 25 points last night , Yea he’s great. But wait ,look, he took 24 shots.8 for 24. You cant be serious. One of the most inefficient scorers around. Dolan and Isaih strike again. Good luck knicks. Thank god we got Chauncey, but now he’s injured.  

  19. art vandelay

    are we going to wear these old school blue unis at home the rest of the season or something??? I can’t remember the last time they wore the whites…

  20. art vandelay

    Let’s see if we can not give up 60-70% shooting in the first quarter for a change..NOT lookign good!

  21. latke

    God how good would Paul be with good teammates? Every time down the floor he makes a good opportunity for his team.

  22. KnickInSeattle

    Okay, so that was a great defensive possession, Carmelo stopped West in the paint.

    Since it was good strong defense by Melo, chances are I’m the only one who will mention it.

  23. Robert Silverman

    latke: God how good would Paul be with good teammates? Every time down the floor he makes a good opportunity for his team.  

    As a rookie, he had such a devastating first step. Could get into the lane at will. That seems to be gone, though.

  24. BigBlueAL

    KnickInSeattle: Okay, so that was a great defensive possession, Carmelo stopped West in the paint.Since it was good strong defense by Melo, chances are I’m the only one who will mention it.  

    Notice nobody has mentioned his good offense so far.

  25. BigBlueAL

    Now Melo is playing with 4 bench players. So if he starts missing/forcing shots realize who he is playing with right now. So far was 3 for 5 for 7 pts with Amar’e on the floor.

  26. BigBlueAL

    First time Melo touches the ball he is immediately doubled. Rough lineup out there right now.

  27. Robert Silverman

    Anyone predict a lineup this year of Jeffries – Anthony – Carter – Walker Williams?

  28. Doug

    Would never have imagine Anthony Carter even as a remote possibility.

    Jeffries’ first action is an offensive rebound, that’s good to see

  29. latke

    yeah MDA is putting ‘melo in a tough spot playing him with the all scrub lineup. One of the few times when his faceup 20 footers are our best option.

  30. BigBlueAL

    First 3 possessions with this lineup no Melo shots no points for the lineup. Next 3 possessions he forces up 3 shots, makes 1 of them (shouldve been an And1).

    But blame him for being inefficient. Fact is with that lineup Id probably rather have him force up a shot on every possession. First 2 possessions he was doubled and gave the ball up, never got it back and it resulted in a Walker miss and an Extra E turnover.

  31. DS

    I’d forgotten the one thing I liked about have Jeffries, when he adds extra pressure to the opposing PG on D.

  32. BigBlueAL

    latke: yeah MDA is putting ‘melo in a tough spot playing him with the all scrub lineup. One of the few times when his faceup 20 footers are our best option.  

    Exactly. He went 3 for 5 for 7 pts before the substitutions with only a forced 3pter as a bad shot.

  33. DS

    I’ve spent about 20 hours of my life listening to Mike Breen explain about how Jared Jeffries’s contributions don’t show up in a box score. (which I guess is technically true)

  34. BigBlueAL

    Jeffries with his first dropped pass out of bounds for a turnover. I missed those plays :-)

  35. DS

    KnickInSeattle: ESPN doesn’t have Jeffries in teh box score.

    Ha. And under the play-by-play it just says “offensive team rebound” or “defensive team rebound” instead of mentioning Jeffries.

  36. Doug

    KnickInSeattle: ESPN doesn’t have Jeffries in teh box score.  

    I saw it with my own eyes! The game isn’t played on paper, quit making love to your spreadsheets!

  37. KnickInSeattle

    @64 Yeah I saw his rebounds with my own eyes too…was curious about +-.
    But I’m probably the least statistics-enthralled person here.

  38. art vandelay

    For some reason I could envision Jared Jack being tonight’s Randy Foye against the Knicks.

  39. BigBlueAL

    So this game is being officiated the exact opposite from last night’s game. Gotta love NBA refs.

  40. latke

    Doug: Does Shelden Williams ever look like a pachycephalosaurus or what?  

    I really wanna photoshop his head so that his facial features are more properly spaced around his face.

  41. Doug

    latke:
    I really wanna photoshop his head so that his facial features are more properly spaced around his face.  

    Still, he’s Mr. Candace Parker, so his funhouse mirror features didn’t hinder him where it counts.

  42. Brian Cronin

    So this game is being officiated the exact opposite from last night’s game. Gotta love NBA refs.

    Totally. So odd.

  43. Robert Silverman

    That foul they just called happened at least five times v. Orlando w/o a whistle. Effing refs.

  44. John Kenney

    At game. Like carter. Crowd kinda dead. Annoying when melo isos. Stat looking confident…. less beat down. Let’s go knicks

  45. Jim Cavan

    John Kenney: At game. Like carter. Crowd kinda dead. Annoying when melo isos. Stat looking confident…. less beat down. Let’s go knicks  

    At home. Love Guinness. Wife kinda mad. Annoying when dog shits on rug. Stat indeed looking confident… MORE beat down! Let’s go Knicks!

  46. John Kenney

    Haha @jim. Also, to anyone interested…..shelden williams just swished several 3s in a row during warmups haha. Unfortunately I doubt he is the second coming of channing frye, but oh well

  47. kitchencoachFL

    Question:

    Does anybody else on here take issue with the way the Knicks’ PA guy says ‘Melo’s name?

    Instead of letting the word “Anthony” flow out naturally, with each syllable progressively sounding a lower note, he keeps each syllable at the same awkward, high note.

    From the guy who brought you “WILLLL-sssssonnnn, CHAND-luhh” and the perfectly articulated “Dan-EE-lo, GAL-i-NAAA-ri,” I was really expecting more. It sucks to hear that “nyeh nyeh na nyeh nyeh” tone every single time our franchise player hits a shot at home.

    It’s especially confounding to me because he has such a great way of saying A’mare’s name that I figured he would come up with something even more amazing for our new All-Star. What a freakin’ rip!

    Maybe if enough of you feel me on this, we can start a petition. I wonder if something like that has ever happened before…

    Go KNICKS!

  48. hoolahoop

    No question, melo is an elite scorer, but it’s too bad he’s so singularly focused on scoring. He can’t see open guys on the court and takes too many tough, low percentage, shots. If he played smarter on offense and tougher on defense the knicks would be in a class with Boston, Miami and Chicago. Unfortunately, I don’t think that will ever happen.

  49. Jake S.

    Anyone want to bet that TD goes 7-38 from the field over his next eight games? I’ll give you odds.

  50. KnickInSeattle

    @95 He has a history similar to what you describe…but I believe he’s already getting better. He could have had 5-6 assists last night if guys hit their shots. And perhaps you missed his D on West in the first quarter? And, finally, what about the open field pass to Turiaf?

  51. latke

    We really are playing halfcourt iso iso iso ball. It’s certainly nice to see that it works for us. The best teams are generally capable of winning in multiple ways (think of the Spurs running with the Suns). I do miss that running game though. It was much more fun to watch.

  52. Doug

    John Kenney: Haha @jim. Also, to anyone interested…..shelden williams just swished several 3s in a row during warmups haha. Unfortunately I doubt he is the second coming of channing frye, but oh well  

    I read that Derrick Rose makes about 70% of his threes in practice, and he’s 34.7% in games. She-Will had better be swishing a lot more threes during warmings. lol

  53. CapB

    Actually if anyone bothered to move when Melo had the ball he would pass it. They just stand around

  54. hoolahoop

    @100. That’s what happens when you keep cutting to the basket and moving without the ball, and never getting the pass from melo. Ball stopping.

  55. CapB

    ? I’m pretty sure melo passed the ball to a cutting Fields. Must be watching a different game

  56. KnickInSeattle

    Since you wrote 95, Hoola, he passed the ball on 3 straight possessions.

    I’m not saying you’re wrong…he has been a “ball stopper” often in his career. But I believe that he can change and, more than that, that he already is.

  57. Doug

    kitchencoachFL: Question:Does anybody else on here take issue with the way the Knicks’ PA guy says ‘Melo’s name?Instead of letting the word “Anthony” flow out naturally, with each syllable progressively sounding a lower note, he keeps each syllable at the same awkward, high note.From the guy who brought you “WILLLL-sssssonnnn, CHAND-luhh” and the perfectly articulated “Dan-EE-lo, GAL-i-NAAA-ri,” I was really expecting more.It sucks to hear that “nyeh nyeh na nyeh nyeh” tone every single time our franchise player hits a shot at home.It’s especially confounding to me because he has such a great way of saying A’mare’s name that I figured he would come up with something even more amazing for our new All-Star.What a freakin’ rip!Maybe if enough of you feel me on this, we can start a petition.I wonder if something like that has ever happened before…Go KNICKS!  

    I agree with you. “Carmelo AN-thonyyyyy” sounds too much like “Al HARringtonnn” for my taste.

    He should channel Bruce Buffer and really roar it. “CARMELO! ANNNTHONYYYYY!”

  58. Count de Pennies

    Jim Cavan: I don’t like Jarett Jack’s face. Help me out Robert: who does Jack look like?  

    Corey Maggette’s evil twin?

  59. Jake S.

    Jarret Jack was put on this earth to put up career numbers against the Knicks. They’re fated to be torched by crappy, journeyman combo guards.

  60. John Kenney

    Impossible not to like carter at the game. Always looking for creative passes and on playing old man defense. Glad we have him.

  61. Jake S.

    KnickInSeattle–I’m on delay. Trick or Treat Toney also seems to be wearing a flame retardant uniform tonight.

  62. KnickInSeattle

    So Melo is tied for 2nd with 4 assists.
    But just missed a shot (his first in about 7 possessions).
    Cue Hoolahoop complaining about efficiency.
    btw, we’re up by 20.

  63. latke

    Anthony definitely passing well tonight. He’s still not shooting well, but tonight is definitely a night you can point towards as evidence that his volume scoring makes his teammates more efficient.

  64. latke

    So rautins used to be our victory cigar. Who is it tonight? Roger Mason doesn’t work for me. How about Derrick Brown? Is he in uniform?

  65. Frank O.

    Nice balance in shots between Carmelo and Amare. Camelo 8-18 and Amare 9-15.

    Billups out, but knicks still have 23 assists. Douglas has 5 assists, anthony and Turiaf have 4 each, and Fields and Stat have 3.
    The ball was moving.Not too many three attempts either. Knicks were 6-15 from 3.
    Winning the rebound battle by a lot.

    Really a very balanced team attack. Jeffries’ impact at times was noticeable he seemed to disrupt them a bit.

    Knicks have played some tough D tonight. I think Chris Paul is thinking about blue and orange.

  66. hoolahoop

    There’s no need to defend everything melo. Astute fans see his shortcomings. Don’t take it personally. melo’s lack of court vision is what seperates him from elite players. The knicks are better now, but they’ll plateau as a second tier team if melo doesn’t continue to grow. This sqaud has the potential to do some real damage in the playoffs.

  67. Frank O.

    Even in one of the most convincing wins of the year some folks are still getting on each other.
    Sorry to see it.
    But a few games should convince anyone any way. I’ll take a win and be satisfied that this is one of the more efficient ones of the new era.

  68. Frank O.

    Clyde said the new Orleans uniforms look like something he would design.
    Have to say, I thought the same thing when I first saw it.

  69. Richmond County

    I thought I saw Gallo is only out for 10 days, but that’s the kind of thing you start playing through before its fully healed.

  70. Frank O.

    Mark this day on the calendar:
    Amare had one more shot than carmelo tonight, and they both had 4 assists.

  71. DS

    Frank O.: What do you think? Trade him straight up for carmelo?
    ISIAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!  

    Nope. The price of a 21 year-old, 7 footers with tremendous upside these days is the willingness to take on 3 months of Eddy Curry’s salary.

  72. CapB

    hoolahoop: There’s no need to defend everything melo. Astute fans see hisshortcomings. Don’t take it personally. melo’s lack of court vision is what seperates him from elite players. The knicks are better now, but they’ll plateau as a second tier team if melo doesn’t continue to grow. This sqaud has the potential to do some real damage in the playoffs.  

    Wont defend everything Melo if some people wont point out every time they dont like how he ties his shoe

  73. Frank O.

    DS:
    Nope. The price of a 21 year-old, 7 footers with tremendous upside these days is the willingness to take on 3 months of Eddy Curry’s salary.  

    Fatty and skinny laid down in the bed
    Fatty rolled over and skinny was dead.

    ….AIR MASON another 3

  74. Richmond County

    Just to put that Anthony Randolph stat line in perspective, its coming against Detroit…

  75. BigBlueAL

    “Wont defend everything Melo if some people wont point out every time they dont like how he ties his shoe”

    Ding Ding Ding. Just giving them a taste of their own medicine to see if maybe they realize how annoying it is either way.

    With all that said, great win for the Knicks tonight.

  76. DS

    Richmond County: Just to put that Anthony Randolph stat line in perspective, its coming against Detroit…

    Oh, good. If it were against Atlanta or something I would have thought we made a major error.

  77. DS

    The Knicks’ win tonight moves our boys up to the fifth seed. Our boys being Felton, Gallo, Chandler, and Mozgov.

  78. Frank O.

    Robert Silverman: Can Roger Mason’s cheering section be called, “The Free Masons?”  

    I just think it is ironic that a supposed dead-eye shooter in the NBA has MASON as his last name.
    He’s had hands of stone and shot bricks all season.
    But not tonight. AIR MASON

  79. rohank

    I told you someone had to step up!!! TDDWTDD!!!

    I would’ve been close on the 40 pts if melo didn’t sit the 4th out.

  80. Frank O.

    Korver tonight had no one within five feet and missed everything from 3 with no time left.
    OOOph

  81. Jim Cavan

    BigBlueAL: Pretty quiet around here post game.I guess the Knicks won tonight.  

    If it makes you feel any better I’m gushing all over the post-game writeup. I think there the game was so shocking on so many levels people are still processing it.

  82. daJudge

    Really enjoyed the game. Offense was less forced and players starting to trust each other. Much more flow. JJ in a perfect situation and I thought he played well. Defense, loose balls and boards. Nice addition and he is certainly happy to play here. Great to see Mason hit a couple. It was also cool that Coach actually asked him if he wanted to play in garbage time. We think of Mason as a scrub, but that is not what he is, nor what he thinks he is. To me (and I’m not a romantic), the Coach’ actions here speak volumes. Class move by Mike. Is CP3 hurt? Anyway, I had a real bad day, but a nice night. Good night moon.

  83. The Honorable Cock Jowles

    I don’t understand how you can trade Randolph without playing him and then claim Jeffries. How does the NBA work? I do not know, sirs.

  84. Brian Cronin

    I was on the train coming home from work. That was a very good win. What’s up with New Orleans? Are Paul’s knees starting to wear down?

  85. Brian Cronin

    I don’t understand how you can trade Randolph without playing him and then claim Jeffries. How does the NBA work? I do not know, sirs.

    They needed to give up AR to get Carmelo.

    Put it this way – their strategy seems to be “Put Melo, Amar’e and Paul/Williams together in 2012 and build from there.” To do so through free agency, everyone on the team now would have to be renounced anyways, so they’d lose AR no matter what.

    Now, that doesn’t explain why they didn’t give him any minutes, true. That was just dumb.

  86. gabriel

    great game by the knicks. Gotta to give d’ antoni credit, he is adjusting to the team, loved what he said about toney douglas in the post game interview.

  87. jon abbey

    that was impressive.

    what the hell is going on with Paul? is he breaking down before our eyes? he’s played some real stinkers recently, and looks scared to shoot a lot of the time.

  88. Brian Cronin

    That may very well be it, Jon. I must admit, I’m a bit worried. I want both Paul and D-Will available (and good) in 2012. If Paul’s knees just fall apart…that would be bad.

    Someone noted, though, that Paul’s injuries usually take a little longer to heal, so this is almost a throwaway season for him, recovery-wise. It’s next season that would be the key to see what shape his knees are in.

  89. dsulz

    Great win. Loved the defensive energy. Very well balanced offensive attack. My deep hope, knock on wood, is that this game gives Toney Douglas a real sense of ownership as the point guard of this team which continues after Billups comes back. I’ve never doubted TD’s skills for a second. His D has always been superb. But he’s always just seemed like another player playing out there as opposed to being the point guard, the guy who leads. Tonight he led, against a pretty good team. Please let it continue. Chaunce shouldn’t be playing more than 30 min a night.

  90. dsulz

    latke: Anthony definitely passing well tonight.

    I noticed that too. A big part of it was Shawne Williams getting hot again. Melo saw that and started skipping it to Shawne for 3s. I think if he trusts his teammates the court vision will come with time.

  91. Brian Cronin

    Basically, and this is little surprise, if Extra E and Toney are hitting their shots, it is a whole different team. If those two are hitting like they hit tonight, this team could beat anyone in the NBA.

    Problem is there is no consistency at all, shooting-wise, from them, so you don’t know what to expect. You certainly can’t say that they turned a corner when Toney did the same thing he did tonight against Milwaukee and then proceeded to miss three million shots in a row (that was a conservative estimate – it was likely a good deal more). But yeah, Toney and Extra E – VIKs for the Knicks’ playoff hopes (Very Important Knicks).

  92. jon abbey

    and it’s kind of sad, but Jeffries has easily the best rebounding instincts of any big for NY this year, before or after the trade. he got a couple that I did not expect, just because guys in blue and orange never get those.

  93. d-mar

    OK we’re 3-2 in the Melo era. we beat a very good team and two OK teams, and lost to a very good team and a very bad team. What does it all mean? It means people need to stop overreacting to losses as well as wins. We are a true work in progress, and every time Melo shoots 33% (which BTW even players like Kobe and D-Wade do on occasion) we shouldn’t curse the trade, Conversely, beating Miami and New Orleans tonight probably isn’t a good predictor of how we’ll do in the playoffs. Let’s revisit after 10-15 games and see where this team stands, in the meantime, enjoy the fact that we have two studs that can score in bunches and a few new guys off the bench that can give us some solid D.

  94. endyendy

    d-mar: OK we’re 3-2 in the Melo era. we beat a very good team and two OK teams, and lost to a very good team and a very bad team. What does it all mean? It means people need to stop overreacting to losses as well as wins. We are a true work in progress, and every time Melo shoots 33% (which BTW even players like Kobe and D-Wade do on occasion) we shouldn’t curse the trade, Conversely, beating Miami and New Orleans tonight probably isn’t a good predictor of how we’ll do in the playoffs. Let’s revisit after 10-15 games and see where this team stands, in the meantime, enjoy the fact that we have two studs that can score in bunches and a few new guys off the bench that can give us some solid D.  

    Wouldn’t it be more fun to claim Chauncey Billups was a wasted acquisition because Douglas has now conclusively proven that he is a top 5 PG? Imagine, we could have acquired Melo for Chandler, Gallinari, and Felton while keeping Randolph and Mozgov AND we have no need to go after Deron Williams or Chris Paul, thus allowing us to spend our 2112 free agent money on a good big man like Kris Humphries.

  95. JK47

    I don’t understand how you can trade Randolph without playing him and then claim Jeffries.

    I think it’s a matter of Basketball IQ. Jeffries is pathetic with the basketball and is nowhere near the rebounder Randolph is, but he’s quite good at little things on defense– closing out on jumpshooters, denying entry passes, rotating on screens, etc.

    Quality win overall. We beat the Hornets in every phase of the game and controlled throughout.

  96. dmull

    @182 – Thank you! I thought Billups was the best player we got in the trade according to everyone? How could we win a game this easily without him?!?!?!?!?

    Sorry, couldn’t resist. great bounce-back though after a bad collapse, second night back-to-back.

    Chris Paul has, regardless of his numbers, not been the same player this year as anyone with NBA full-court would tell you. His explosiveness just isn’t quite the same. He’s been tremendously innovative in getting off his own shot and setting up others, but it’s not the remarkable athleticism we’re used to seeing from him. I think next year it would be worth keeping a very close eye on him, though ultimately I don’t know if we’ll have another option and we’ve probably come too far to front.

  97. massive

    @181, FWIW I think that New Orleans is more than an OK team. I think they’re in a tier with the Knicks, Bulls, Hawks, Thunder, and Blazers of the world, making them a good team. I do agree with your other points, though.

  98. John Kenney

    Loved shouting out Masons stats as he nailed those two shots. “He’s now hit double the shots in this game that he had made in the entire season! En fuego!”

  99. tenebrous

    great win. mj kudos. is anyone up for getting Nate back. don’t we need him against shaq. assuming we play boston. i’m referring to nates block on shaq last year or so. Either or Nate would be nice no?

  100. tenebrous

    the team is better the way it is now. like dbrown.

    endyendy:
    Wouldn’t it be more fun to claim Chauncey Billups was a wasted acquisition because Douglas has now conclusively proven that he is a top 5 PG?Imagine, we could have acquired Melo for Chandler, Gallinari, and Felton while keeping Randolph and Mozgov AND we have no need to go after Deron Williams or Chris Paul, thus allowing us to spend our 2112 free agent money on a good big man like Kris Humphries.  

  101. Jake S.

    I’m firmly planted in the trade-for-Melo camp, but it bears mentioning that Anthony Randolph went off for 19 and 10 tonight. Mozgov and Chandler also played well in a 40-point Denver rout. When all is said and done, we may have given up 5 players to make this partnership happen. God forbid the Knicks get the kind of sweetheart deal that always seems to fall into the laps of the Celtics and Lakers.

  102. Brian Cronin

    Minnesota’s played it well with AR – they’ve been slowly extending his minutes, getting him worked into the mix. Good for him.

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