2011 Game Thread: Knicks @ Suns
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seitsriF
Firsties is lame.
Complaining about it is lamer….
.eerga I
Now the Bergen Record is reporting the Nets, Denver and Detroit are working on a 3 team deal that would bring Melo, Billups and Hamilton to NJ.
http://www.northjersey.com/sports/010911_Nets_try_to_involve_Pistons_in_three-team_trade_for_Carmelo_Anthony.html
I’m sorry, but if Melo continues to insist he won’t sign an extension with NJ, isn’t all this wheeling and dealing kind of like working out all the details for your daughter’s wedding even thought the groom has no intention of showing up?
in other breaking news I just requested a patent on a lightsaber I haven’t invented yet….
you definitely got the patent on typing inside the quotebox Nick! :)
http://highdeas.com/
that site gives you some funny stuff to read while waiting for the game :)
Lemme know when you do. I really want a lightsaber (unlike Melo)
1) Tenthies
2) LET’S GET THREE IN A ROW TONIGHT!!!!
3) That Melo deal makes sense
Shoot, “tenthies” didn’t work. The Nets would get 3 gaudy players and that would make Prokhorov happy. The Nuggets would get better and younger. And the Pistons would unload Rip and prob. pick up another asset. ‘Melo gets to play in Brooklyn, NY. What could be so terrible?
I don’t care where Melo goes. :)
Phoenix is starting Pietrus and Childress at PF and C! WOW!!!!!!!
Childress vs. Amar’e???
Fields!!!
@14 – I think Gortat will be in, in about 5 minutes and will have a big game.
Time to show the league that we can play some D
This is the weirdest starting 10 maybe ever.
Starting TD was a disaster. Knicks should absolutely kill this team if they drive to the basket on every possession.
and Nash gets the “small white guy looks like he got destroyed on defense so he gets the offensive foul” call
Wow I can’t stand hearing Jax announcing. I appreciate all of his assists, but his Brooklyn shtick makes me cringe with each and every possession.
It’s an odd feeling to root for a team and think they should win the game.
Lots of double-clutchy bullshit and overpassing so far. Go strong the the rim and get PHO in the penalty please.
tell me about it. I have the Mets, Jets, Knicks troika.
For the love of God stop shooting 3′s and long jumpers when you can get a layup on every freaking play.
Is Isaiah gonna take credit for that Frye post shot? lol
Amare is scoring, but those aren’t good shots. Where’s the PnR?
agreed…they need to take the ball to the rack…fortunately the long jumpers have been going down thus far…but they can blow this team away by just being aggressive driving the ball!
Dude, try Mets, Knicks, and Seahawks
Those are my teams too. We’re clearly masochists
I love that mark jackson and mike tirico are talking about “what if the fans voted on who is the best knick of all time”. I’m like – we did that here @ Knickerblogger ;-)
The Yankees make it so much easier for me to support the Knicks.
32 – but we limited that to Knicks from the 3-point era
TDDWTDD
Knicks, Mets fan here…
Lucky… terrible pass…just hold the damn ball.
@34 – True. Would like to see the results of an all-time vote
More TOs (7) in first quarter for NYK than in entire game against Spurs.
I’d be inclined to choose Clyde over Ewing, but I think I have a weakness for Clyde.
And whoever (Jax?) said the fans would pick Nate over Houston was on crack.
You are a true masochist if you’re watching Mark Jackson instead of Mike and Clyde tonight.
He also said Nate received a huge ovation when he returned to the Garden….Lee did, but from what I recall last season after the boston trade, upon his return the reception was relatively muted….polite applause at best from what I remember.
Every pass in the paint gets bobbled.
Turiaf brought his hands of stone tonight I see.
Must have caught it from Moz
Apparently there’s a third team in this game. There’s three of them and they’re wearing gray shirts.
I have no choice. The only feed I have is ESPN3, with the rancid Jax WHO WON’T SHUT UP.
Anyone know where you can drink the audio feed of Clyde?
I’d love to be listening and glistening to my man.
And this is why felton gets no freakin rest….
Just turn on the radio and mute your TV.
what an awful game to watch….
Not a great game so far. Lotsa turnovers.
I turned on AM 1050 but I’ve got Johnny Hoops. Is Clyde on the radio?
Clyde’s on TV. Johnny Hoops is 1,000x better than Jax.
Jax and his damn teardrop… he really wants people to remember his only offensive move.
Just put in Randolph. This couldn’t get any sloppier.
Two threes and the complexion changes suddenly
The Nix could use a big win tonight. Got the Kobes on Sunday. Get Stat/Felton some rest.
PS – Is there a player in the league more in need of a good nickname than Raymond Felton? Ray-Ray just doesn’t hold water
We’re playing like crap and are up 12. The mark of a pretty good team, perhaps?
At least they’re up 12. Otherwise this would be too painful to watch.
When did Bill Walker start boarding?
Some fools with Caremlo jerseys.
LOL @ fans at the Knicks’ baseline: “Carmelo” “Anthony” on jerseys
Knicks jerseys obviously
That must have been a Greg Anthony jersey.
its the suns.
Funny lol I have the Knicks, Seahawks and yankees, at least one of them is consistent
Ray needs to stop taking long 2s
This game is crazy. The Knicks don’t look very good but the Suns…oh man…the Suns….how the heck are they this bad?!
Greg Anthony wore #50 (and #2 his first year). 15 was Earl Monroe’s # (and Dick McGuire’s)
It was a lame attempt at a joke.
Chuckle.
This isn’t related to the game, but i just read this on highdea.com and thought it was funny
fI just read this on highdea.com
“McDonalds screw up
Me and my buddy were at a McDonalds, baked, and while we waited in line he told me about the McGangbang. It’s where you order a mcdouble and a mcchicken and put them together. When it was our turn to order we walked to the counter and i said calmly, i’d like a mcgangbang…”
I don’t believe I’ve ever seen this from Nash, and because I haven’t, I’m pretty sure I’m just imagining things, but man…Nash really looks like he’s doing a sort of “Kobe in Game 7″ protest thing. A sort of “really? these are my teammates?” thing.
starting 5 small forwards is the reason. you know your bad when you resort to gimicks
Rony is really getting his stupid on tonight.
I don’t blame Turiaf…that was a cheap shot by Warrick under the Knicks basket.
Actually that was Carter who was fouling Turiaf.
Sorry Al. Missed it.
Warrick was doing his best Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man impression.
You think? I mean, the Nix are switching on the PnR, which is leaving ISO’s on Hill or whomever and that hasn’t worked. He’s passed off on dribble penetration to teammates who are getting trapped on the baseline or kicking it out for long 2′s/missed 3′s. I don’t think Nash is purposely tanking, it’s just that his team is THAT bad.
Yeah, you’re probably right, Robert.
Strange, though. The Suns are playing so poorly. It’s almost awe-inspiring. The Knicks have 834 turnovers, and yet they’re up 10!!
It felt to me like the Knicks played horrible in the 1st half yet they are up 10 and should be up 15-20. Weird game so far.
Who’da thunk it, The “Suns East” vs (pre- Amar’e) “Knicks West”
they’re making Amare work really hard for his points, not that it’s slowing him down much. Chandler needs to step up in the second half, some more 3s from Williams would be nice too.
@79: Did you catch that the guy selling the wacky waving inflatable arm-flailing tube mans was “Al Harrington”?
LOL
felton needs more rest man! he left early 2nd quarter, then came back at the 10:30 mark. Maybe 1 minute rest of game time and only like 3 minutes real rest. Geez! He is absolutely going to break down if Dantoni keeps this up. Starting douglas was retarded. Doughlas has to spell Felton straight up some times. Have some confidence in Douglas, he can play.
I hope Felton took a nap in the locker room during halftime.
oh yeah and will the thrill looks really sluggish. Maybe he has been hearing all this “he’s carmelo light” stuff and he’s feeling the pressure.
Only difference is that the Knicks never had an ex-MVP player. Wouldn’t be surprised if they pull it together unless the Suns get hit with another series of trades.
BTW – everyone who said that Melo was replicating Amare should feel very validated tonight. Amare is really looking like a slightly taller Melo
Anyone know what happened to Robin Lopez? He was looking (literally) like another Varejao last season
will on cue after i dissed on him
and Fields with the sack on Nash!
Felton is going for a .1000% usage rate for this game.
Seriously, at some point people are going to have to hedge on that screen with Raymond Felton.
Man, Stat smothered Hill on that Felton 3
sean williams continues to impress, i’m glad he’s getting the second half start.
Ya think?
Say what you will about SSOL, at its best it is incredibly effective. We’re really finding a rare groove here. Yeah tonight’s been ugly but we really look like offense is just an on-off switch. Interested to see how we defend in the 4th.
Anyone else think Felton’s in, “Oh, so you want to trade me for Nash? I’ll show you!” mode?
Extra E getting it done
Damn!
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
ray ray 5 threes!!!!!
YIKES
Can’t believe Felton threw THAT lob.
I am not advocating the knicks give up the farm in a trade for melo now….if anything, I would prefer he wait it out and sign him as FA in the offseason, but I find it so humorous that in spite of how TERRIBLE new jersey is as a team, they still have all these wonderful “assets” whereas when the knicks were as bad last year in their pursuit for lebron all the media discussed was how their awful play would turn prospects off…yet that doesn[t seem to be an issue at all for NJ…they are completely chock full of assets….also this idea that denver doesn’t like our players is total bs….they simply don’t want to send melo here because they know he wants to play in NY.
Knicks will win by 30?
We may get our wish and see some AR playing time in this one. ;)
If he shaved his head, eat some petroleum jelly, and wore #3, I’d think I was watching Steph out there, circa 2005…
Totally.
We’re witnessing vintage Vince Carter here.
Yeah, the notion that they don’t care for/want WC or Gallo is ludicrous.
Fields just out savvied the savviest vet in the NBA
Chandler really off tonight
Bill Walker looking at Extra E like, “I got this.”
Yeah. The more I watch felton, the more I think that this is really a statement game for him against nash.
Also, shawne/bill are making up for gallo’s absence
I think 4/5th of the starting lineup could have an off night tonight and it wouldn’t matter. The Suns look terrible.
Still, Felton – wow, what a game.
Wow – 2 missed layups for gortat
Why doesn’t Gortat dunk the ball I mean the rim is RIGHT THERE for him.
You gotta let Felton get the triple double, right?
There’s been numerous plays like that for the Suns tonight. Wide open lanes and they brick 6-footers instead of driving.
If this game was in NY, and Gortat was playing for the Knicks, the boos would be raining down unmercifully for those 2 missed open layups. Those Suns fans are just too damn nice.
Walker and Williams have combined for 12 rebounds so far.
I think they’re mostly talking about all the 1st round picks the Nets have to offer (I think 5 in total), while the Knicks will have none for next year if they don’t trade AR for one.
The New Yorkers can have him.
Chandler looks asleep out there
If they said that, then yeah, I’d agree with that. But the articles are specifically saying “The Nuggets are not interested in Wilson Chandler or Danilo Gallinari,” which I call BS on.
And yes, please, New Yorkers, trade for him! That three-way deal sounds quite logical, really.
I don’t know the numbers, but the Knicks are out boarding the Suns like it’s nobody’s business.
Felton’s one rebound away from a triple double
Delicious.
Vince Carter 17 foot turnaround fadeaway on a double team. LOLz.
Wow Felton get that triple double!
Phoenix looks, um, disinterested.
do you take him out
Why do turnovers count as a triple double?
That seems kinda dumb.
Jeez louise. PHX only has 26 board to NY’s 45. We’re also shooting 53.6% from 3. This is ridiculous.
Is it true, has it been confirmed, that they will really be the Brooklyn New Yorkers???? wow…horrendous
If D’Antoni doesn’t play Anthony Randolph this quarter, he’s an ass hole.
I wonder why Gentry won’t play Nash and Dragic together?
Wow – what a savvy fadeaway by fields
You should be rooting for another Turiaf foul.
That guy is so cool
This is the NBA not a charity
6/6, 14, 9. Kid’s good.
Definitely. But he has to, right? Right? (tell me right!!)
He stole that move from Hakeem (Olajuwon, not Warrick :)
It has not been confirmed, no. Sadly seems very likely, though.
For those bored with the game, there’s a Marc Berman/Steve Adamek twitter flame war goin’ down.
Stanford: Bad Hair U
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand we break 100 with 9:12 left
=)
Been debunked, actually. Scroll down to the “ticker” section http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2010/12/16/‘i-wrenched-the-nylon-curtains-back-as-far-as-they-would-go-and-peered-through-perspex-window-panes-at-the-acrylic-road’/
wow even the knicks scrubs are killing the suns. When Bill Walker is taking you off the dribble then you know there is a problem
No way. They would never do that, would they? It’s just terrible.
TDDWTDD!!
Up 28 with 8 minutes to go… Still not safe enough to put Randolph in.
Very good to hear, Robert! Thanks. I wish I could use that for a Sports Legend, but “trust the guy from uniwatch” is not exactly a great source. I mean, obviously, I believe him, he just doesn’t work as a source. :)
Felt and STAT can’t play again, feels good, this blowout also feels like I’m getting a breather. Usually our games are so tight.
What over?
oh and btw. you know what else is AWESOME?
Knicks showing up on national TV
Channeling Marv Albert: “We are entering serious gahr-BAHZ time!”
This game is really going to help out our pt differential and maybe we crack the top ten of hollingers rankings
Hard to say. They seem to be merely trading barbs, calling each other hacks.
Someone made reference to how nice the Suns fans are. That, sadly, is what is likely keeping Nash on this team. There is no way a guy like Nash (or Hill, really), should be wasting their last few productive years on a team this bad.
And yet, they don’t want to leave.
Bizarre.
For example: http://twitter.com/NYPost_Berman/status/23610215140171777
The AR watch is on. Dantoni really likes to bury players!
Up 30, and 3/5th of your starters are still in there?
Come on, D’Antoni!!
And Felton’s back in. Why?
Mozgov sighting!!!!! what the F! STAT is back in, what?
Mozgov in
Felt too? are you kidding me?
I get Felton wanting the triple double. But that’s it. It should be Felton and four reserves, including Mozgov and AR.
let’s risk injury to STAT instead of playing AR. Got to love Dantoni sometimes.
Okay coach,
you’re putting in Roger Mason, Jr. now? Come on.
AR is not coming in.
ok wtf wtf why is mason in and AR still in warmups? I hate this.
Mozgov… Mason…
great catch Timmy!
mason>randolph???
Trip doub
Nice catch by Timmeh
Mozgov kitch bahl! Moz good!
triple double!
yay felton!
that’s why, to get his 10th board. nice job, Ray!
terrible refereeing in this game, thankfully didn’t matter at all.
triple double for felt, can he come out already, Stats mean nothing, winning is everything. I can’t believ they would risk injury to these guys.
Nate must have given AR some tips on how to interact with Coach D.
Grats Felton, 1st career triple double.
Free Eddy Curry!!!!
Oh wait…
Did AR try to choke Danphony like spree choked carlesimo back in the day.
Haha.
Seriously, I usually dread the thought of AR coming in and giving a new name to boneheaded… But if ever there was a time to let him play, this has to be it!
Randolph and Rautins
AR!!!!!!!!!! Boyyyyyyyyy!
Rautins time!
And, there he is!!
I still say that turnover vs. Minnesota was the worst in the history of basketball.
Getting ugly – read this! http://twitter.com/bergenadamek/status/23600473533579264
And that one was in the top 5 worst turnovers in the history of basketball.
Back to the bench AR!
Nice drive by AR, lousy finish
wow, brutal TO from Randolph. maybe that’s why he’s so buried…
Timofey mad!
What a weird sequence. AR drives it hard to the rim and almost breaks a wrist, Mozgov gets ejected
Freakin’ gay jokes from a professional beat writer? Ridiculous.
Man these guys look rusty. Mozgov just got tossed. Weak. These refs suck. Damn the NBA is so pussy these days.
No more “Air Mozgov”
Did someone just let the air out of the Spurs’ balloon? They barely beat the Pacers tonight. The Heat, meanwhile, continue their 1995-96 Bulls impression.
Mozgov’s inadvertent elbow was how Oakley dealt w/anyone who came near the post
Man, the annoying thing about garbage time is that the players are always way rusty. I mean, AR can’t be this bad, can he?
Anthony Randolph is pretty awesome as comic relief. He’s so horrible at everything basketball-related that he makes me laugh out loud.
that doesn’t read as a gay joke to me so much as an extremely merited shot about Berman being Marbury’s personal PR guy for years after he was relevant. never heard of this other guy before, but kudos.
I know it’s not easy playing only in garbage time, but if this is the Randolph that D’Antoni is seeing in practice, then I can’t really blame coach for keeping AR off the floor — who around the league would give up a first rounder for this guy right now?
As the last remaining member of the Anthony Randolph booster club…he’s good! I super-promise!
He might be. I mean, we hadn’t seen more of him than a good-but- not-great college run and some highlights in Golden State. Neither are entirely accurate indicators. He needs some time to develop, but It might not happen under this system.
Taking bets – who scores first? Rautins or Randolph?
Nevermind…
You owe me 5,000,000,000,000 dollars.
Extra E is killing his .700 TS% with these meaningless garbage time bricks.
The knock on Berman is certainly warranted, no doubt about it, he was way too kind to Marbury during his coverage of the Knicks (likely because Marbury gave him inside information). But describing that as saying he’s “servicing” Marbury is unbecoming of a professional sportswriter.
And once again, Landry Fields: 6-6, 14 points, 10 rebounds. Landry Effing Fields, people!
so thats why randolph is glued to the bench…
Family relative of yours?
Read all the tweets – they get increasingly insulting from both Berman and Adamek. I get the rationale behind the comment, too — Berman going to Marbury on every story was hack-tastic — but you’re right. The homophobia from Adamek is ugly
Some day, some day, if everything goes well, he might (stress might) be a very good role player.
We out-rebounded them 59-34, and 14-4 on the offensive glass. They suck pretty bad.
By the way, I am loving the fact that the Knicks don’t even have to seem particularly interested in a game (other than Amar’e, of course) and they can still destroy a bad team. That’s how good teams work. Love it.
2-1 in the next 3 games please! though I’ll take 1-2 and a sweep in our 2 home games after that.
I love that I can go into a knicks ROAD game feeling confident at the very least they will be in the game if not should win it….in prior years my goal was to still be hanging around by halftime….
I declare this another deeply depressing garbage time. How are we ever going to trade Anthony Randolph?
still more professional than Berman’s treatment of Marbury IMO, which should have gotten him fired.
Pheonix has some skilled players. Why not try a more traditional lineup. You’ve got two legit centers in Lopez and Gortat, PFs in Frye and Warrick, and a ton of wings. Why march out a lineup with Childress at center? They’re not a great team by any stretch but they had no game plan and it’s like the coach chose his rotations out of a hat.
Good to see the Knicks take care of business. I’m looking forward to LA on Sunday.
He works for the NY Post. Making stuff up, going to dubious “sources,” smearing people to increase circulation (remember the Jordan Hill/MD’A non-story Berman flogged last year) — that’s not a fireable offense, that’s their effing job description. They’re shameless conservative hacks. You expect higher standards from the Sports Desk?
Yeah, I don’t get it, either. I suppose Lopez and Warrick must have just played even worse in their previous games to get into Gentry’s doghouse.
Or Gentry must not know what to do when he isn’t coaching one of the greatest point guards ever and one of the best big men in the NBA.
I’d see what Phoenix wanted for Lopez in a trade
@HowardBeckNYT and @LoveThoseKnicks arguing over whether Anthony Randolph sucks. @LoveThoseKnicks is convinced D’Antoni’s got some personal vendetta against the kid. I agree with Becks: Based on visual evidence, he’s sucked. If D’Antoni has a vendetta, it’s against Randolph for sucking.
And even if that were the case, look at Nate last year. D’Antoni definitely hated him, but when Nate got a shot, he blew up. Randolph, on the other hand, is not coming close to taking advantage of his admittedly limited opportunities.
Just wanted to point out that at our SOS for the last ten games is .640 (which only Milwaukee has a tougher schedule at .645) and we are 5-5 with a three game winning streak… with the last 2 being very convincing mind you…
Know it’s past Xmas and New Year’s but certainly makes me thankful for where we are. All the more appreciative given where we’ve been…
this is actually a common misconception, their sports pages are often very good. Joel Sherman is easily the best Yankee beat guy right now, and often breaks national stories. I’d take their sports section every single day over the worthless and usually wrong Daily News, and the massive waste of resources NY Times. just today Peter Vecsey got a rare phone interview with the elusive Kobe Bryant (definitely worth reading). Berman however is an embarrassment.
(FWIW, I’m a former journalist, worked at Time Magazine for 10 years)
I’ll take your word for it, but Berman and Vescey are such shameless liars, it’s hard for it not to color the rest of the sports pages/journalists.
Still – I’d take Hahn over either of these guys (and Isola and Lawrence) any day and twice on Sunday
Hahn no longer exists for me since Newsday went pay-only.
Pay-only is brutal, but Hahn’s Twitter is still really good.
He’s been free for the last two weeks
actually it looks like Newsday might have backed off the pay-only thing, didn’t realize that.
Hooray!
He is worth it just for the Twitter, but if I can read his articles, too? Awesome.
ah, the wall goes up again on the 11th. I actually never liked Hahn as much as most here seem to, no big loss for me.
Newsday is only free until the 11th; some sponsorship thing.
Great night for the Knicks and their point and rebound differentials lol.
The worst thing about AR tonight to me was his brutal body language. I wouldnt be surprised if next time there is garbage time he doesnt even come off the bench.
Dude, I know. When Felton came out after getting the triple-double, AR gave him one of the most indifferent high fives I’ve ever seen. Basically, he barely made eye contact.
Also, I have no idea what he’s doing camping out on the 3 point line and trying to spread the floor on offense. He’s no threat to hit a 3 and he’s not fooling anyone. Shouldn’t he be setting up near the elbows, or roving around the top of the key like Turiaf?
While I certainly agree that his positioning is absurd, I find it hard to believe that that is his decision. Remember when he actually got into games? That’s the same way he was used – in positions where his skills were nearly useless. It’s like D’Antoni is trying to pound the square peg into a round hole, and I wonder, “Didn’t Donnie Walsh realize that this would happen when he traded for Randolph?” and then I think, “I guess they hoped Randolph would learn an entirely new game during training camp.” Either way, it’s a weird situation. Another thought is perhaps they always intended on trading Randolph in a future deal, and just figured he was the best trading chip they could get for David Lee.
Encouraging that TD seems to be returning to form a bit- if he can regain his scoring touch, force a few turnovers on D, etc… then he can be a perfectly adequate back-up for the 10 minutes a night Felton sits even if he does struggle to run the offense. And nice to see Walker hit the boards and hit both his threes- if he and TD can get back to anywhere near their shooting #s from last year all of a sudden the bench, with TD, Williams, and Walker all able to knock down threes, could start being a real plus.
Looking forward to Sunday- L.A. hasn’t looked like much a championship team yet this year but their size should cause the Knicks all kinds of problems- I think the Knicks will need a repeat of tonight’s performance from behind the arc if they want to get the win.
And even when the Newsday paywall goes back up, most of Hahn’s stuff also winds up on the mobile version of the site, which is A)Not paywall-blocked, and B)Browseable on a computer.
Just bookmark mobile.newsday.com. A lot of the time, Hahn actually just links to that version from Twitter, since he knows a lot of his followers aren’t Cablevision subscribers and can’t access the proper site.