massive: Well, according to Basketball Reference, this is STAT’s advanced stat line: TS%: .51, TRB%: 14.2, Usage; 33.1, PER: 9.6, WS/48: -0.074.

Thank you for providing some objectivity and sanity…

Spree8nyk8: Do you have “numbers” to illustrate how many double digit leads the knicks lost late in games last year because they lacked a go to guy?

One guy does not lose a double digit lead… that takes an entire team. (Or maybe Jared Jeffries…)

I don’t understand why you would even begin to think that one guy is entirely responsible for his team’s success… I’ve said this 10 billion times and am not sure anyone has actually listened, but look at KG and Kobe’s careers… Their team success is directly correlated to quality of teammates. KG has won 30 games and then 60 games in back-to-back seasons…

NateRobinson: Amare did it on isos.  

AMARE SCORED SEVEN POINTS WHILE USING SIX POSSESSIONS…

rama: Spree –
You’re still arguing entirely from perception, whereas Ted is giving you actual concrete numbers.

Whatever, sure, it’s perception. Do you have “numbers” to illustrate how many double digit leads the knicks lost late in games last year because they lacked a go to guy? Because I remember a ton of them. Maybe some of those games in the last five mins after they had already blown the lead Lee was efficient. But imo there is a difference between efficient and GO TO….

Pretty bad, huh? I’m sure he’ll fix that as the season progresses. Normally, Amar’e isn’t a turnover machine and is WAY more efficient.

nicos: Amare played 20 minutes at center which you can’t expect to happen every night.

Why not?

Spree8nyk8: But last year there was at least 10 games (i’m sure it was more but i’ll stick with 10), where we lost late leads or were in 2 pt or less situations where Lee didn’t demand the ball and never seemed to assert himself.

You realize that Amare only scored 7 points on 6 possessions late in the game, right?

Spree8nyk8: Lee is a workman

This is the sort of thing that drives me nuts… He is a very skilled player. They literally ran their offense through him last season, and they had the #17 offense in the NBA. And he didn’t turn it over 9 times when they gave him the ball and asked him to do work. As much as Lee can’t do what Amare can, I think the opposite is also true.

Spree8nyk8: But for those last 5 mins, you have an Amare that can do it all when it’s needed the most.

Are you intentionally ignoring my posts? Clutch stats on 82games.com LITERALLY measure performance in the last 5 minutes of a game where neither team is ahead by 5 points or less. This is like discussing an issue with a wall…

Spree8nyk8: They did it with a poor game from Gallo

That’s not true.

Spree8nyk8: I mean that has to be a promising thing.

Toronto is picked to be one of the worst teams in the NBA this season. The Knicks only lost the preseason game because they played a 3rd unit and got crushed in the 2nd Q. The other 3 Qs I believe the Knicks actually won… the Qs where their rotation guys were in there together.

fespinal: STAT was able to score at will at a moment in the game where we needed that to seal the victory. We have been missing that for quite some time.

Again, you are ignoring the TOs. He scored 7 points on 6 possessions used. He used 4 possessions to score and 2 to turn it over. He got outright stripped twice in a row by the great Jarrett Jack, and people are amazed at how well he did? I expect better in an average game, but this was not a game where Amare sealed it late. He did as much to lose the game late as win it. The Knicks barely beat one of the worst teams in the league.

Also for all the talk about Amar’e's defense, he was quite active yesterday providing a good presence.

Good to see a win, good to see we haven’t forgotten about Lee around here.

Off topic, but I am the only one whose MAC just gets destroyed when you try to open this site?

Per 36 minutes last year, he averaged 19.6 pts. By my calculations, his per 48 minute average therefore was 26 pts.

So his clutch-time average of 22.4 pts. per 48 minutes would be below his scoring average, although his FG% in the clutch of 65% was significantly better than his per 36 minute FG% of 55%.

Not saying they are right or wrong of course.